Speaker 1: Flex and frooms on Kada.
Speaker 2: This is Lexian Frminda and today on the podcast, I
Speaker 2: am sharing a very special recipe that my housemate made
Speaker 2: last week. I know that sounds kind of boring, but
Speaker 2: it's not. Ge it up a little bit, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm not meant to say that I'm boring or annoying anymore.
Speaker 2: But it's from a two guys called Fuck. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter because it's about the EA. Yeah, it's the YA.
Speaker 2: I'm friends with them, but I always forget their name.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: It's giving. That's one thing I will never admit. Continue.
Speaker 2: I'm also going to talk about the worst Antarctic exploration ever.
Speaker 2: It's gnarly and I, like I'm an a K. Holler,
Speaker 2: can't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 4: One of those stories just got worse and worse and
Speaker 4: worse in the best way possibly. You think it's gonna
Speaker 4: get better, No, it never does. It never does. And
Speaker 4: ending on what feels like a punny way to go
Speaker 4: about it, the best way to end a conversation. I
Speaker 4: think I am proficient in doing so, you know, just
Speaker 4: like dialing it down in a way that makes everybody
Speaker 4: feel really comfortable.
Speaker 2: It's a gift also because I don't think this is
Speaker 2: in the podcast. I learned on the weekend Queen's Jubilee
Speaker 2: that if she wants to end the conversation, she moves
Speaker 2: her bag from one hand to the other one behind
Speaker 2: her back. Yes, yeah, yes, in mine, yes, and you
Speaker 2: are a queen, so let's end it there.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on Kita.
Speaker 2: Something that everybody on the internet talks about non stop
Speaker 2: are red flags. Everybody's got raid flags about dating, like
Speaker 2: maybe he's a mama's boy, Maybe she always expects you
Speaker 2: to pay for the bill, Maybe he likes girls bikini photos.
Speaker 2: Maybe she is mean to her parents. I say the
Speaker 2: fourth one is probably one of the worst. Nothing more
Speaker 2: uncomfortable than somebody having an absolute, absolute bitch at their parents.
Speaker 2: Where is the decorum? Literally, you're making me feel awkward anyway.
Speaker 2: Red flags are very obvious. But something that I learned
Speaker 2: about on TikTok this week was beige flags. Yeah nice,
Speaker 2: you say that. You've heard this video. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: play with everyone here. It's from a creator called It's Cato.
Speaker 2: She is an Australian person.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of dating app red flags. Doing the
Speaker 3: rounds again at the moment, But I wanted to address
Speaker 3: something that I think is a little bit more prevalent
Speaker 3: that I have coined beige flags signs you're probably very boring.
Speaker 3: First up is having an opinion on coriander, whether pineapple
Speaker 3: belongs on pizza or sauce, or chocolate.
Speaker 2: Belongs in the fridge or cupboard.
Speaker 3: It's it's not important, no one cares. Second is any
Speaker 3: reference to extremely mainstream sitcoms.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for the pam.
Speaker 3: To your gym, I just I'm just going to assume
Speaker 3: you have no deeper meaning, like reference the Mighty Boosh.
Speaker 2: You'll get out, you know.
Speaker 3: The next one is using puppies to hide your lack
Speaker 3: of personality. It's rude and look, I only want a dog.
Speaker 2: I don't even want you in that case, so just
Speaker 2: jog on using.
Speaker 4: The thing about red flags is no matter who you are,
Speaker 4: you're going to have a couple. That's just how the
Speaker 4: cookie crumbles. Beige flags, though, probably just as damaging. Harder
Speaker 4: to figure out. Yeah, because it's not that people don't
Speaker 4: have personalities. I do think it's a fundamental issue with
Speaker 4: the fact that men aren't really like socialized on how
Speaker 4: to present themselves. Online. They're just not given the handbook.
Speaker 4: They're not socialized to worry about presenting themselves to anyone
Speaker 4: or adding context around themselves. Absolutely, Internet, because like beige
Speaker 4: flags for women are like spicy marks, right, because anytime,
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of research around this, when women
Speaker 4: show their personalities context behind their personalities, it seemed to
Speaker 4: be really abrasive to a lot of men. So like,
Speaker 4: I can understand why women goes on an app and
Speaker 4: dials it down right, But men, I don't think there
Speaker 4: are very many contexts in life where they have to
Speaker 4: present themselves as anything but just a very particular archetype
Speaker 4: of whatever demography they're trying to fit into. So like
Speaker 4: you're a music head, okay, great, you do music head things,
Speaker 4: or like you like movies and so you name a couple.
Speaker 4: Christopher Nolan wants I love the American Psycho. They all
Speaker 4: say I love dark humor.
Speaker 2: Well, I think some men have it really bound. What
Speaker 2: about the men that like fishing? Yeah, they have endured
Speaker 2: years and years of scrutiny and being made the butt
Speaker 2: of the joke. What if you just really loved phishing
Speaker 2: killing animals? You're being targeted on ads on comedians pages.
Speaker 2: It's a really hell out there for the men. Yep,
Speaker 2: personal beij flag is that I have. I definitely relate.
Speaker 2: I definitely relate to the sitcoms. Don't quote a sitcom
Speaker 2: to me. If you watch Friends Growing, I'm going to
Speaker 2: think you're not cool. I agree with her. If you
Speaker 2: quote Mighty Boosh even that's kind of like I The
Speaker 2: thing about TV shows that I find is, what is
Speaker 2: the likelihood of me knowing the exact episode that you're
Speaker 2: referencing for us have an inside joke. It's very slim.
Speaker 2: You are like jumping over a massive cliff thinking you're
Speaker 2: going to find the other side, and you don't. You
Speaker 2: hate it when you're like, oh, you actually don't know
Speaker 2: that one dead end conversation over pick it right up.
Speaker 2: You're making it hard on yourself. So just stick to
Speaker 2: not talking about TV shows. That's my opinion.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I think is very ironic. I
Speaker 4: think the average person and not see you.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I.
Speaker 4: See you getting tense. I think the average person is
Speaker 4: very critical about dating app profiles and their profiles also suck,
Speaker 4: Like I don't. I've not seen enough good profiles out
Speaker 4: there for everyone to be so critical about the red flags,
Speaker 4: the beag flags, the whatever flags. I think that if
Speaker 4: everybody took their profiles fifteen percent more seriously, the lance
Speaker 4: will change for the better. I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people are stuck between the insecurity about having to work
Speaker 4: for romance versus the reality them wanting to find love
Speaker 4: embarrassing to so when they all start mimicking the tomato
Speaker 4: sauce fridge cupboard thing, the Corey under pizza thing, pineapple
Speaker 4: pizza thing, that is them saying I'm.
Speaker 2: Just gonna do it.
Speaker 4: Everybody else does, so it's less embarrassing because I'm with
Speaker 4: the norm, like I'm doing what the populace does, which
Speaker 4: is not helping anyone.
Speaker 2: That is such a great point, and I completely agree Tea.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and Frooms on kit.
Speaker 2: I'm really struggling to breathe. Yeah, you said it was
Speaker 2: long COVID, though I don't know if it's long COVID
Speaker 2: or if I'm just like have I'm not fit anymore.
Speaker 2: It could be that I don't know what you like.
Speaker 4: Panting just in conversation doesn't feel like it a simply
Speaker 4: I'm unfit thing that feels like respiratory it was giving.
Speaker 2: You know, she's been in bread.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, a lot of our rats upond rats giving
Speaker 4: me this rat like appearance and general behavior.
Speaker 2: Anyway, No one talk about food, one of my favorite topics.
Speaker 2: My housemate Izzy is an incredible cook. She loves to cook.
Speaker 2: She's very domineering in the kitchen. She will admit the fault.
Speaker 2: She will admit the fault because I think it's a fault.
Speaker 2: The kitchen is meant to be a fun, happy place,
Speaker 2: isn't it. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I would love for someone just be dominating the kitchen,
Speaker 4: cook the food, make the food, bring the food.
Speaker 3: Fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually yeah, I like it too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. If it's a collaborative effort, then sure, be nice
Speaker 4: about it. But every good team has a leader.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Facts.
Speaker 2: Well, last night she made me the most delicious moossaka.
Speaker 2: Do you know what a moosaka is? I saw it
Speaker 2: on your story and I still don't know. So basically,
Speaker 2: it's like a lasagna, but with beef mince and lamb
Speaker 2: mince and eggplant tamato. Yum. It's so good. You would
Speaker 2: all loved it. Yeah, no soggy rice, because I've come
Speaker 2: in and made you food before, I've made you risotto,
Speaker 2: made you lack ghul ash, dry chicken, Yeah, dried chicken
Speaker 2: as well, chickney with the Ja sauce. But this one
Speaker 2: was special. I'll bring it in for you next time.
Speaker 2: We'll make it again. But it was from a cookbook
Speaker 2: called yah Ya's Kitchen. So yeah, our next door is
Speaker 2: this book. It's by two Melbourne guys and basically their
Speaker 2: whole story came about because a few years ago, and
Speaker 2: this is a bit of a trigger warning, their mum
Speaker 2: passed away. She was a victim of family violence. And
Speaker 2: basically when they were kind of like in the months
Speaker 2: and years since, the yah Yah they lived next to
Speaker 2: would pass food over her fence to them and they'd
Speaker 2: always put on their Instagram. They made an Instagram about it.
Speaker 2: So then this was a really nice way of like
Speaker 2: tying up that chapter. And the book is amazing. They
Speaker 2: sent it to me and it's got all these credible recipes,
Speaker 2: a lot of them are Greek from the community around them.
Speaker 2: And yeah, last night he made me the mousaka. And
Speaker 2: when I say this is the best muzaka I've ever had,
Speaker 2: I'm not mincing words. Nice it was delicious pun into.
Speaker 2: So recommend you go buy that book. Support these guys,
Speaker 2: classic local boys. I love that iconic. Yeah, y'are next door.
Speaker 2: It's a book, Check it out. I wish that there
Speaker 2: was like a taste ometer that I could give people
Speaker 2: my food. Why don't you make one?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: What can a million dollar idea?
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on Kita.
Speaker 2: This is a spooky, creepy, scary, gory story. I'm scared.
Speaker 2: You're a spooky binch. Yeh, that's what you call yourself. Basically,
Speaker 2: I want to tell you a true story that happened
Speaker 2: at the start of the nineteen hundreds. Yes, so far before.
Speaker 2: This show was incepted not long before, but a little
Speaker 2: bit far before. Basically, it is the story of the
Speaker 2: most terrible polar exploration ever. So basic. This is a
Speaker 2: real life story that happened to some Australian men that
Speaker 2: went down and did one of the first explorations of
Speaker 2: the South Pole. And I love that.
Speaker 4: I tried to look at flags to Antarctica a couple
Speaker 4: months ago. They're only nine seats.
Speaker 2: Did you do it? It's a bit it's a bit
Speaker 2: of a just got Greenland, Switzerland or something that's pretty cold. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So basically I'm just going to read it to you.
Speaker 2: Sit back and listen to the story. I'm ready. The
Speaker 2: Far Eastern Party was a sledging component of the nineteen
Speaker 2: eleven to nineteen fourteen Australasian Antarctic Expedition, which investigated the
Speaker 2: previously unexplored coastal regions of Antarctica's west. Led by a
Speaker 2: guy called Douglas Mowson, the party aimed to explore the
Speaker 2: area far east of their main base, and accompanying him
Speaker 2: were two other men. Basically they had to ski with
Speaker 2: dogs along glaciers to try and like territory, really map
Speaker 2: out these areas that had not been explored before. Whoa
Speaker 2: big job. Basically what happened was when they were at
Speaker 2: the start of the journey, Ninnis, who's the last name
Speaker 2: of one of the guys, and the sledge he was
Speaker 2: walking with broke through a snow lid of a crevice
Speaker 2: and were lost. Basically, his little sledge in him fell
Speaker 2: down a crevice and was lost and they never found
Speaker 2: him again. But they saw two of the dogs were
Speaker 2: on one of the little shelves and they were like
Speaker 2: they had died, so their friend had gone. There was
Speaker 2: two men left. Next up This is when you're like, yo, okay,
Speaker 2: tap out. Literally, but I couldn't go back. Why not?
Speaker 4: Because they're too far. They were too far to go back.
Speaker 4: He see one thing about me, I'm always quiit literally.
Speaker 2: So now their supplies were severely compromised, and Mowson mets
Speaker 2: the two guys left. They did turn back west, but
Speaker 2: gradually they ran out of food, so they had to
Speaker 2: eat the dogs. Yeah, so I eat the dogs. And
Speaker 2: what happened next was a lesson for anybody here who's
Speaker 2: thinking about eating dogs or bears or polar bears, and
Speaker 2: that is to not eat their livers. So these men
Speaker 2: had to eat these dogs. And obviously they went for
Speaker 2: the liver because that's like a fatty, yummy part like
Speaker 2: you've ever had, Like, yeah, duck parp fai liver, I
Speaker 2: go to Hubert, absolutely delicious. They're eating it because it's
Speaker 2: like nice and yummy. Turns out it has way too
Speaker 2: much vitamin A, which makes you sick. So Mertz obviously
Speaker 2: was a bit greedy, went for the liver and it
Speaker 2: made him go like paranoid. Lost the plot. He's like
Speaker 2: running around the tent, smashing the tent, and that night
Speaker 2: he passed away at two am, like he like, you know,
Speaker 2: really like sends you. So then mercy scientifical term. So
Speaker 2: then it was just Mertz left still with me on
Speaker 2: the story. Yeah, but yeah, man left, he had to
Speaker 2: go back. He finally got backward. By the time he
Speaker 2: was back, it was so cold that like his skin
Speaker 2: was falling off, like like it is crazy down there.
Speaker 2: Basically he's five to live the tail. Yeah, it turned
Speaker 2: out that he got so much information that it helped
Speaker 2: them for years after to make about what cost Yeah,
Speaker 2: pts not down beer Marta. And this is also the
Speaker 2: consequence of being the first being the taste maker. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's like you gotta go through.
Speaker 4: You got to pay that path so nicely that anybody
Speaker 4: else who comes after you is like, now I know
Speaker 4: what not to do.
Speaker 2: So that's the story. But how amazing. And then he
Speaker 2: was knighted. He was given an oam. He couldn't pay me.
Speaker 2: That was a lot. Thank you for sharing, no worries.
Speaker 2: But see, it's incredible. Isn't it crazy to think there
Speaker 2: was a time when we were still exploring parts of
Speaker 2: the world. Well we're still doing it now. We don't
Speaker 2: know what's in the ocean yeah, that's not really the
Speaker 2: world in my opinion. What anyway, I digress, and it.
Speaker 4: Is flex and frooms on Kata as you know. So
Speaker 4: it is Australia's home of hip hop and R and B,
Speaker 4: but also just like Chitty Chatties with.
Speaker 2: The girls us being the girls.
Speaker 4: I since the world's opened up a little bit, I
Speaker 4: hate that phrase. I wish we had another one to
Speaker 4: whip out.
Speaker 2: But whatever.
Speaker 4: I've been noticing that my perhaps capacity is to socialize
Speaker 4: has changed a little bit. I think I'm a lot
Speaker 4: more open to like leaving the house and hanging out
Speaker 4: with people, and I think that makes it sound like
Speaker 4: I'm kind of some kind of introvert or like socially
Speaker 4: anxious person. It's quite the opposite. It's when I get
Speaker 4: into a space, everyone wants the flex.
Speaker 2: Experience, so I really do.
Speaker 4: I've been in events with you, you know, and it's
Speaker 4: very tiring and you kind of like, I just want
Speaker 4: to be not invisible, but just not on duty every
Speaker 4: time I pull up to the function. But as you said,
Speaker 4: while it might be irritating for me, I think it's
Speaker 4: more irritating for the people I'm with who have to
Speaker 4: kind of deal with me having to having to start
Speaker 4: and finish a bunch of the these conversations in a
Speaker 4: way that like is polite and kind or whatever. But
Speaker 4: one of my best friends, Sally, complimented me the other
Speaker 4: day on the fact that I do have an uncanny
Speaker 4: ability to end a conversation nicely without the person knowing
Speaker 4: that I'm trying to end the conversation. And it's very
Speaker 4: true though, because you can't. You can't hit them with okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: nice to you know, we're done. No, you have to
Speaker 4: wean them off you.
Speaker 2: How do you do it? It is but a skill.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I think the most conversations, everybody knows when it's done,
Speaker 4: but nobody knows how to politely finish and say goodbye.
Speaker 4: I think what people end up doing is giving too
Speaker 4: much context as to why they can't be in this
Speaker 4: conversation anymore, and it sets them up for failure. So
Speaker 4: you might say like, oh, I need to go find
Speaker 4: my friend.
Speaker 2: Then you need to.
Speaker 4: They'll be like, oh why, Like what, look is everything
Speaker 4: okay with her? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 4: done here. So I do a few of the following things.
Speaker 4: The first is when they trail off their sentence, nod, smile, and.
Speaker 2: Say, well, it was so good to catch up with you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see you later, but like give me a cuddle,
Speaker 4: and then you do all the things that associate with
Speaker 4: a goodbye greeting. But they feel comfortable with that and
Speaker 4: you feel good to go. That is a perfect one,
Speaker 4: but you have to be an op you have to
Speaker 4: be an extrovert to do that one because it needs
Speaker 4: it's a very not a domineering way, but it's a
Speaker 4: very like active way to end a conversation.
Speaker 2: Do you realize you're outing yourself?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm happy people like people don't know Listen, Like
Speaker 4: if everybody knew that I didn't want to be swarmed
Speaker 4: all the time, they would end the conversation for me.
Speaker 4: But I think most people under the umbrella of like,
Speaker 4: well that's not me, right, like flex has the capacity
Speaker 4: for me, and like maybe yeah I do, but everybody.
Speaker 4: If everybody thinks that, then everyone's like, but she has
Speaker 4: time for this. Anyway, The next best thing to do
Speaker 4: is the as they're trailing off in conversation, you start
Speaker 4: a sentence.
Speaker 2: You're like so, and you're like, oh, I gotta go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom. Do you know what the bathroom is,
Speaker 2: I got a pee. It just comes over you. Now
Speaker 2: they're helping get to the bathroom and you just let it.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a her one. I love that one.
Speaker 2: That one's one of my favorites. I need to see that.
Speaker 2: You know what we should do. We should do one
Speaker 2: of those hidden camera things. That's where we go to
Speaker 2: an event and we test out all those things, like
Speaker 2: we go to like a launch like Mary Poppins the
Speaker 2: other day when we went to that get a secret
Speaker 2: camera show people, we literally that'd be the best one
Speaker 2: going to Let's do it. It's a gift.
Speaker 4: That go to the bathroom one is fantastic though, because
Speaker 4: I think that, like what I used to get caught
Speaker 4: up in is saying goodbye to someone and not being
Speaker 4: far enough away from them and.
Speaker 2: They're kind of like, why did you go if you
Speaker 2: could have stayed.
Speaker 4: And the third one, which is the most important one,
Speaker 4: is the moment you get to a venue and there's
Speaker 4: like a lull between something starting some you know, a
Speaker 4: dinner and not everyone's arrived yet. Just go to the
Speaker 4: bathroom and sit down on the toilet and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that on Friday night.
Speaker 4: Don't need to start a conversation. Don't need to end
Speaker 4: a conversation. If you don't start the conversation, it's a gift.
Speaker 4: Are you going to end in conversations? Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 4: you interact with people. Okay, I don't know if I've
Speaker 4: seen it. You're not in like a social setting where
Speaker 4: like at work, sure, but with a bunch of people
Speaker 4: you need to say goodbye to you.
Speaker 2: I don't think i've seen it. I'm pretty good. I
Speaker 2: just say oh, okay, oh my god, obess God bless
Speaker 2: you bye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, watch next, God bless you by. It's no context
Speaker 4: less awkward than saying where's the bathroom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, it's intentional. I'm not lying. I'm not hered.
Speaker 2: I'm not lying either. I always need to pee, you know,
Speaker 2: my bladder is tiny, little particular particular. Al Right, Well,
Speaker 2: we can definitely do that secret camera segment. I'm absolutely
Speaker 2: blitzed for that. Definitely.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and frooms on Kita.
Speaker 4: My body is really sore because I'm trying to move.
Speaker 4: It turns out all the muscles start atrophying if you
Speaker 4: don't go for walks. Anyway, I told the Internet that
Speaker 4: I've been doing pilates for a little while now, and
Speaker 4: you would expect any kind of declaration of caring for
Speaker 4: yourself in some capacity would be met with like praise, like.
Speaker 2: Oh, gonnad that to an amazing Let tell me about it.
Speaker 4: I would say thirty five percent of people were like,
Speaker 4: what's next?
Speaker 2: You're gonna move to BONDI.
Speaker 1: What really?
Speaker 2: I swear down.
Speaker 4: They were like, oh, I hope this doesn't become a
Speaker 4: page that's not safe for me anymore.
Speaker 2: Baby, what are you sucking about?
Speaker 4: Like, hey, look, we already know people stay delusional on
Speaker 4: the internet, but this wasn't even like a whole announcement.
Speaker 4: I was at pilarates, took a photo of my feet
Speaker 4: and my reformer like it was very casual and in togration,
Speaker 4: could have been part of a photo dump, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then like the response that came in,
Speaker 4: it felt like they had done something so intentional.
Speaker 2: Like this is that a health and fitness channel?
Speaker 4: If you're not about cutting calories and being skinny girls
Speaker 4: like Benny frankled, then don't come here. I could not
Speaker 4: believe it. I was like, you don't want to see
Speaker 4: a girly win that's absurd. It's absurd, but it makes
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised, not surprised at all. I think I'm
Speaker 4: intimidating now, wait till I can. I was doing what
Speaker 4: do you call these things? By bicep curls. The other
Speaker 4: day I go and do six killers either on, Wait
Speaker 4: till I'm bicep curling fifty killers?
Speaker 1: You know, sick of me?
Speaker 2: Wow, that is so interesting to me. It's so like
Speaker 2: an amazing progress. If you feel that way, you have
Speaker 2: a complicated relationship to health and exercise. Yes, because when
Speaker 2: you see someone do something and it makes you uncomfortable
Speaker 2: that they're doing it, it means that either you hate
Speaker 2: doing it, do you? But I think it was just
Speaker 2: projection to begin with.
Speaker 4: Like, I hope flex doesn't turn into an embodiment of
Speaker 4: something that makes me feel insecure.
Speaker 2: That's the new problem, baby. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If I become an Amazonian, you know, I'm fighting in
Speaker 4: the woods, I'm doing taekwondo.
Speaker 2: You know I did taekwondo as a child. Let's not
Speaker 2: get into it. And that makes feel uncomfortable. That is
Speaker 2: a weird thing for you to share with me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to share with you that's weird. See, we keep going
Speaker 2: back to this. It's a relatability trap of our own doing,
Speaker 2: not my doing. People want me to be relatable so badly.
Speaker 2: Let me out of there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not my place, it's not my ministry.
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