Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2: It is not often Miss Throumy comes to our show
Speaker 2: with a strong ceiling shed a lot, but I feel
Speaker 2: like the feelings are feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Feel like you do a good job, like muting how
Speaker 2: strong the ceilings are. Every now and then you'll pop
Speaker 2: up and be like, nah, this one is hidden the spot.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't prepared so.
Speaker 2: For me to come through and say that she finds
Speaker 2: the Jeffrey Dharma fanfare disgusting, not because she's not right,
Speaker 2: because you know, I don't know what happens when I
Speaker 2: don't see through me when she's not in front of
Speaker 2: me or on my phone.
Speaker 3: She's a mystery. I like having bards and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm just gonna say I feel a bit ineloquent
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 3: I just, you know, ineloquent, it is a word. It's
Speaker 3: a really a great word.
Speaker 4: I'm just, you know, the brain's not really firing us.
Speaker 4: I'm still in I Beetha mode. But I will say
Speaker 4: we're talking about Jeffrey Dharmer. I don't say anything like
Speaker 4: really hectic because it makes me sick. So basically, this
Speaker 4: podcast is for anyone that tried to watch that series
Speaker 4: and will stick to their stomach. For example, my sister
Speaker 4: and I both love all of this spooky shit, even
Speaker 4: she Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I think that's why we've got to find a differentiation,
Speaker 2: because I'm all about spooky stuff, right, but I don't
Speaker 2: watch like I'm not into horror anymore or like paranormal
Speaker 2: activity stuff. I'm like a real life speaky person, Like
Speaker 2: I appreciate it when it's here, but like I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna go to the ghost.
Speaker 1: Tour that stuff.
Speaker 3: See that's where we differ.
Speaker 4: Okay, So what we're gonna do for a few podcast
Speaker 4: times put this in the diary. I want to tell
Speaker 4: you all my scary story.
Speaker 3: Okay. In fact, maybe I should tell you on to
Speaker 3: my's podcasts. No say it?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, anyway, once you hear the story, you believe
Speaker 4: in ghosts.
Speaker 3: I already do. Let's get to.
Speaker 1: It, Okay, Flick and frooms.
Speaker 2: Picture this Smiths Frumini. You've fallen in love, well uh oh.
Speaker 3: Triggered falling in love, and you get engaged and you
Speaker 3: are on cloud nine amazing.
Speaker 2: Your partner does some spooky stuff and you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm done with this.
Speaker 3: I cannot. I cannot go through with this.
Speaker 2: Whatever he's done is just so beyond embarrassing, disrespectful, dangerous,
Speaker 2: unsafe that your only only only decision is to call
Speaker 2: the engagement. You can't marry him, it would never happen
Speaker 2: that way. But now here's the thing. You've got the ring.
Speaker 2: It's worth twenty three thousand dollars. Fair enough, Sarah, that's
Speaker 2: the minimum. Literally rates start at twenty three k for
Speaker 2: this ring. So yeah, naturally, like we've got to, you know,
Speaker 2: call the engagement. You take the ring, you put it
Speaker 2: on Facebook marketplace, you know, at market value twenty three k.
Speaker 2: What ends up happening is that you go viral on Facebook.
Speaker 2: You start a heated debate with people thinking that you
Speaker 2: are beyond insensitive for selling a gift which should have
Speaker 2: been returned to the person who gave it to you.
Speaker 2: Do you agree or do you disagree? It's kind of iconic,
Speaker 2: literally cyclist salary that someone gave you.
Speaker 4: You know, what was the most iconic execution of an
Speaker 4: engagement ring that I've ever heard of? Lara Bingle and
Speaker 4: the what's the sports guy whatever the cricket's name was
Speaker 4: when she flushed her engagement ring down the toilet.
Speaker 3: WHOA, Yeah in Bondai of all places. WHOA.
Speaker 4: Personally, if it was me, I'd be too scared to
Speaker 4: do that on Facebook is crazy. I once worked for
Speaker 4: someone who bought their girlfriend a Cartier ring.
Speaker 3: Well, wasn't an engagement ring, was it?
Speaker 4: It was an engagement ring? Oh and they broke up.
Speaker 4: So then he took it back and tried to sell
Speaker 4: it on high end on Facebook.
Speaker 3: Not on high end, you girlies, no what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: That got a lot of traffic. I'm thinking about it, right.
Speaker 2: We really have to exercise a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: creative sensibilities to be like, we're engaged. But if I
Speaker 2: was engaged, I got the ring, the engagements called off.
Speaker 2: I'm giving it back. I don't feel like I should
Speaker 2: have to, but I like to prove points. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, just so you know that I'm really really decisive, take.
Speaker 3: It back, get it out of my face.
Speaker 2: That hurts in a different life, though, I'm with this
Speaker 2: woman selling it.
Speaker 3: It was my gift. Let me do what I want
Speaker 3: with it. I'm a pretty princess.
Speaker 2: Facebook marketplace though, that was never going to be That
Speaker 2: was never going to be the place to make a sale.
Speaker 3: That's I wanted him to see. She's like, look at me.
Speaker 4: There's certain things you should not be allowed to sell
Speaker 4: on Facebook marketplace, like what namely a bag of frozen
Speaker 4: chicken nuggets that it apparently from me Donalds always comes out?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Always comes up? Like random people?
Speaker 3: You're a primary demographic for that nonsense? Yes or no?
Speaker 3: Do you give the engagement ring back or is it
Speaker 3: yours to keep the person?
Speaker 4: I'd love to be if I was a dramatic person,
Speaker 4: sell it, But I'm going to be giving it back.
Speaker 3: We're so lame.
Speaker 1: We need a pattern up flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: Thankfully three me has a bone to pick. I love
Speaker 2: when this happens a.
Speaker 4: Little too literal of a phrase for what I'm about
Speaker 4: to talk about. Yeah, it might be Jeffrey Darmer, a
Speaker 4: man called Jay Jeffrey Darmer. It is a show on Netflix.
Speaker 4: Is it called just Darma?
Speaker 3: Not across it anyway? It is?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 3: It is? Have you watched it? I haven't. Do you
Speaker 3: know who Jeffrey Darma is?
Speaker 4: So Jeffrey Darmer is a serial killer from America. This
Speaker 4: is a show that's gained so much traction on Netflix.
Speaker 4: I made the mistake of clicking on Jeffrey Dahmer. I
Speaker 4: thought everyone's talking about this show, and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of discussion about whether or not it was good because
Speaker 4: it proved like nature verse nurture, or how leaving someone
Speaker 4: to fester and feel isolated can make them end up
Speaker 4: becoming a serial killer, or if it's just outright disrespectful
Speaker 4: to the victims. So often with these movies and TV shows,
Speaker 4: it's traumatic to witness these murders. I watched the first
Speaker 4: episode and I thought it was really interesting because I
Speaker 4: like the main actor. He's getting a lot of praise
Speaker 4: for his performance. But I got into the second episode
Speaker 4: oh about midway through, and in the first episode it's
Speaker 4: all about him getting caught. So basically, this guy was
Speaker 4: a serial killer in the eighties and nineties. He would
Speaker 4: lure men queen men back to his house and meet
Speaker 4: them in like gay bars, for example, and do really
Speaker 4: unsavory things to them. Obviously he's a murderer. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to get into the specifics because it's awful. But
Speaker 4: in the first episode of this show, which is a drama,
Speaker 4: it shows him getting caught, so he lose a man back,
Speaker 4: but doesn't get to kill him because the guy like
Speaker 4: fights back and finds his way out amazing. So I
Speaker 4: was happy to watch that because I like watching someone
Speaker 4: like fine justice. But then I kept watching and I
Speaker 4: got to the second episode and it was just so
Speaker 4: visceral and just upsetting. And I'm a big I love
Speaker 4: watching paranormal things. I don't mind horror movies like I
Speaker 4: can handle it, but it just I can't do true crime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I like you.
Speaker 2: When I was in high school, especially, I was big,
Speaker 2: I was just so fascinated by serial killers.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this?
Speaker 2: Used to watch all these horror movies and stuff, And
Speaker 2: then one time I turned eighteen and went to a
Speaker 2: easter show like Spooky House of Horrors things, and the
Speaker 2: actors were just way too good and it was freaking
Speaker 2: me out and they were relentless. And then from that
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm but a regular girl. They could
Speaker 2: have really taken me out. I'm not playing with this anymore.
Speaker 2: And then you kind of just developed like an understanding
Speaker 2: of the world and you're like, whoa, this is super
Speaker 2: cooked stuff that we are like very easily normalizing, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like and like it's so bizarre because,
Speaker 2: especially now in twenty twenty two on the Internet, people
Speaker 2: are extremely oversensitive about everything, right, but then true crime
Speaker 2: comes out and we're like.
Speaker 3: This is so fascinating. He's so hot. I want to
Speaker 3: get taken by him.
Speaker 2: Like you guys are you've lost it? You do realize, right,
Speaker 2: like all of it's deplorable, And you might say, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe people are watching it so they can be better
Speaker 2: prepared for this scenario. And like safety first, and all
Speaker 2: these amazing stories, you tell yourself you're all cooked.
Speaker 4: And I find that so condescending to the people that
Speaker 4: became victims, Like you can't you can't outthink someone who's crazy.
Speaker 4: And the answer isn't to be more safe for vigilant.
Speaker 4: Vigilance doesn't really do much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, Well, first of all, you know,
Speaker 2: we can say on record we didn't watch Dharma.
Speaker 3: I watched one and a half episode.
Speaker 2: Yet I didn't watch Darma. You know, I did not
Speaker 2: put a check in Dama's pocket for me. Did in
Speaker 2: fact watch an episode, and I half enjoyed a bit
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: Big Darma, Big.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk more specifically about true crime
Speaker 2: and how statistically that is a genre that is overwhelmingly
Speaker 2: supported by women. Women are the backbone of the true
Speaker 2: crime genre, podcast, TV shows, documentaries. I talked about like,
Speaker 2: when I was in high school, I was really into
Speaker 2: true crime so much so, do you know it wasn't
Speaker 2: in true crime when I was in high school. It's
Speaker 2: really into personality tests, like we know, that's where it
Speaker 2: all started.
Speaker 3: I was sixteen. I was like, this is so fascinating.
Speaker 2: And when you try and google personality tests, I would
Speaker 2: try to find out the archetypes of the people. And
Speaker 2: TV shows I watched write like what is the personality
Speaker 2: type of Dean from Supernatural? They don't have that information,
Speaker 2: but what they did have is public figures and usually terrify,
Speaker 2: like terrifying public figures Hitler. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm a malat or something. So then my interest in
Speaker 2: personality types coincided with my interest in serial killers, because
Speaker 2: that's where you got the bulk of the information. People
Speaker 2: were like cataloging someone's life and telling you when and
Speaker 2: where and how they became this person they became. Then
Speaker 2: you grow a brain and you're kind of like, yes,
Speaker 2: as a skill, I can separate the art from the reality.
Speaker 2: Or I can, you know, not personalize everything I consume.
Speaker 2: Then I'm like way too sensitive these days, Like I
Speaker 2: don't want to see someone get hacked up and know
Speaker 2: it was real. And I also don't like the conversation
Speaker 2: around it, because if we can create so much, what's
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for? If we can be if we
Speaker 2: can contextualize, like you know, like we're not supporting the
Speaker 2: serial killer when we watch Cerichiller movies, then where do
Speaker 2: we find this much grace for everybody else in the
Speaker 2: world who does a terrible things. It's like all morals
Speaker 2: out the door when you find a hot serialkiller you
Speaker 2: want to support, but like one random person says one
Speaker 2: like mildly cooked stuff or cooked thing, and like you
Speaker 2: want to deplatform that banished.
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to be connected somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something there.
Speaker 4: I just couldn't I just couldn't imagine for some reason,
Speaker 4: Dama hit me different, really really really different. It's the
Speaker 4: point where I feel actually upset thinking about it. Just
Speaker 4: this one scene in the second episode he does something
Speaker 4: really awful to the man and maybe it's just really
Speaker 4: good acting, but I just couldn't help but think I
Speaker 4: gonna imagine being this kid's mum or that, you know,
Speaker 4: imagine it's weird. Maybe when you get older and you realize,
Speaker 4: like these things actually happen to people. Yeah, and it
Speaker 4: could be like it could very much be happening right now.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like I'm sure I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: so uncomfortable with true crime if it wasn't so sensationalized.
Speaker 2: Like people don't just mildly watch af your true crime things.
Speaker 2: They're like deep in it. Oh, I watch I listen
Speaker 2: to case Well every day and this and this, and
Speaker 2: I go to bed to the sounds of people getting
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you hear yourself? That can't be right.
Speaker 2: And also are you so desensitized? Go watch an action movie?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: I like seeing chatting Tatum in a little in a
Speaker 2: little white singklou jumping out of a burning building. You
Speaker 2: know that that gets my adrenaline going.
Speaker 3: I don't need to hear.
Speaker 2: And also it's like I talk to my friends who
Speaker 2: really like true crime, and what they appreciate about it is,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's like the historical element of
Speaker 2: getting access to something that's happened in history in a
Speaker 2: very conversational and inviting way. It's interesting. It's not exclusionary.
Speaker 2: It's inviting you into a space that you wouldn't be
Speaker 2: in normally. I totally understand that, but I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: also the problem because, like you know, there are YouTubers
Speaker 2: who do like makeup and murder, and they'll tell you
Speaker 2: about someone who's been after pieces while they show you
Speaker 2: how to conto on. I'm like, I've sometimes these two
Speaker 2: things just shouldn't mesh in the way we're trying to
Speaker 2: make a mess. And when does it stop?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I just can't too
Speaker 3: sensitive these days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but paranormal will give me a ghost, like cutting
Speaker 4: them up to pieces obsessed, you get vampires, zombies.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: The world is just too scary. I don't like it
Speaker 2: here that much. I'm not going to go anywhere, like
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But people are scared, Like, are you not.
Speaker 2: Afraid of the world. I'm so scared of the world.
Speaker 2: I'm scared of people. I'm scared of like the possibilities.
Speaker 2: I still walk around. I felt so invincible. I was like,
Speaker 2: I can walk around at night, I can travel alone
Speaker 2: like that would.
Speaker 3: Never happen to me. I'm the exception.
Speaker 2: No, babes, you just like all these other people. So
Speaker 2: they were too smart, too cool, too pretty, too gifted,
Speaker 2: too blessed, to looked after, to be hurt. No, literally,
Speaker 2: everybody has a story of experiencing something harrowing.
Speaker 3: No, please enough, I hate it. Well yep.
Speaker 4: So if you are listening for a recommendation, American horror stories,
Speaker 4: get Hicks that way, hun very entertaining, well done, and
Speaker 4: no real people were hurt vikings.
Speaker 2: What about war, war and pillaging? You know, gets a
Speaker 2: history in you that way? Oh dear, this is flex
Speaker 2: and frooms well flexee. I went to Ibtha recently. It's
Speaker 2: a big show love and I saw David Getter.
Speaker 3: Before we even get to that. Can you please paint
Speaker 3: a picture this?
Speaker 2: I know you don't read fiction because you go straight
Speaker 2: to the point, and I know, like what was the temperature?
Speaker 3: Like what was the vibe of people wearing? How are
Speaker 3: you feeling? I would love to.
Speaker 4: This was the last day in ibetha spirits a fragile Okay.
Speaker 4: We had four tickets, so me, myself and three friends.
Speaker 3: You yourself, three friends that massive is wow, how much
Speaker 3: of tickets?
Speaker 4: Roughly one hundred and twenty os each each, So anyway,
Speaker 4: pre booked. I was kind of like leading the charge
Speaker 4: with the d GAT and it gets to the day
Speaker 4: half attendance rate, two of them have pulled out. Why
Speaker 4: one severely hungover from the night before, which.
Speaker 2: Shane knew what the what the score was, be serious
Speaker 2: precisely a little hydro light, little gator Raye called a
Speaker 2: day please.
Speaker 4: The other one was very ill, physically ill.
Speaker 3: What kind of illness?
Speaker 4: I don't want to share too much. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: he listens to the podcast. Okay, but he was depleted.
Speaker 3: And you could see that, and you're comfortable with him
Speaker 3: opting out? Oh yeah, you know he was. He wasn't
Speaker 3: leaving the air bingb kind of thing. Okay, great.
Speaker 4: So as me and my friend Rachel from high school,
Speaker 4: we came to be friends over David Ghetto kind of
Speaker 4: really all the house parties together. So it was a
Speaker 4: real passage passage of time experience. So we we get
Speaker 4: the taxi from our accommodation to the festival. It's roughly
Speaker 4: twenty minutes, probably half I was gonna say half an hour,
Speaker 4: thirty dollars might get to the venue straight UPU I
Speaker 4: and no, it's gonna be Banshe's central because it's like
Speaker 4: the clubs in Ibtha if you've not been affing, enormous.
Speaker 3: But these are massive, but bigger than Ivy in Sydney.
Speaker 3: Oh ten times this big? What Okay? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Maybe different?
Speaker 2: So is it split up into like different rooms and
Speaker 2: different genres or just like massive open space.
Speaker 4: Well, the one that I went to was kind of
Speaker 4: low key, but the one my friends went to without
Speaker 4: me was all different rooms. There was a party in
Speaker 4: the bathroom. Oh I love that DJA in the bathroom,
Speaker 4: and it's mixed like anyone can go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: There's no gender divides.
Speaker 4: The one that I went to, the bathrooms had swans
Speaker 4: with wings that you would turn.
Speaker 3: The taps on with. It's very cool.
Speaker 4: But David Ghettar get there. It's a full festival experience,
Speaker 4: massive stage. It's like you're at Maybe it was intended
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 3: His show or he was just like doing a little
Speaker 3: set at a club.
Speaker 4: So this one wasn't a club. It was like an
Speaker 4: outdoor area in a resort. Okay, it's got a pool
Speaker 4: in the middle and kind of like apartments on either side.
Speaker 4: It's called a UI shot or something, and they have
Speaker 4: people every night playing. But he has a Monday residency.
Speaker 3: It's called f Me.
Speaker 4: I'm famous every Monday. It was a closing show. Oo
Speaker 4: packs Energy's up Pack pack Packs.
Speaker 3: I get there.
Speaker 4: Mixed crowd, like a lot of kind of forty fifty
Speaker 4: year olds, which makes sense. David Gettar, you know, he's
Speaker 4: been around since two thousand and two. I got to
Speaker 4: get a drink. I already knew that the drinks in
Speaker 4: IBFA are exorbitant, fuly priced. Guess how much it costs
Speaker 4: for two vodka Red Bulls aud thirty five bucks, seventy
Speaker 4: two dollars, oh, seventy two.
Speaker 3: I hadn't even touched the sides. And you're in debt.
Speaker 4: Seventy two Australian dollars for two vodka Red Bulls.
Speaker 3: Not even a double shot? Wow, one shot? So that
Speaker 3: was the first nling drink you got. Surely, no, you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 4: I got two drinks because this is David getting you know,
Speaker 4: I'm going to push push the boat out and we
Speaker 4: just kind of went side a stage. I wanted to
Speaker 4: go in and my friend's a bit of a hooligan,
Speaker 4: so I thought she was going to be with me,
Speaker 4: but she's like, no, let's stay on the side.
Speaker 3: And when she pulls back, you know it's serious.
Speaker 4: So we just hung around kind of like on the side,
Speaker 4: made some friends with a group of Italians. Nice everyone.
Speaker 4: The vibe was electric. To be fair, I was jumping
Speaker 4: up and down the entire time like I was a
Speaker 4: rabbit be peril.
Speaker 2: I was offline at this time, but my best friend
Speaker 2: told me about the experience.
Speaker 3: Did you see for me? And I didn't see it,
Speaker 3: so you have to show me videos.
Speaker 4: I was having the best time ever, literally painted grin
Speaker 4: on my face. However, Oh it had its downside. No,
Speaker 4: I came away with a serious flu, origins of which
Speaker 4: I'm on shore. But it was bad, and so I
Speaker 4: spend the rest of my troop bedbound.
Speaker 3: Which was how many days? Three days?
Speaker 4: That sucks, but with my auntie, so she's taking care
Speaker 4: of me anyway.
Speaker 2: Man, flu, that was so cute. I can't believe he
Speaker 2: ended up going who's great, that's hot and sexy?
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on Cata.
Speaker 2: I have said what some would say is some controversial
Speaker 2: stuff over the course of my life, but also this
Speaker 2: radio show, and to be honest, I stand by it
Speaker 2: because I think that somebody needs to start the conversation,
Speaker 2: and if that must be me, then so be it.
Speaker 2: I think that we should bring back lying. I don't
Speaker 2: want to leave it at that. Somebody has a message
Speaker 2: us to with a bit of a moral dilemma, and
Speaker 2: I think we should answernestly because you don't do it often.
Speaker 3: But we should try it on for size.
Speaker 2: They say, should I lie to my current employer to
Speaker 2: get accepted at a much better job and more fitting job?
Speaker 3: Off the back?
Speaker 2: I say yeah, you say, okay, listen, they say, here's
Speaker 2: the situation. I have an opportunity at getting an amazing
Speaker 2: job that is creative and perfect for my artistic abilities
Speaker 2: in a trade skill i've been learning on my own
Speaker 2: for ten plus years. Decent pay and working from home,
Speaker 2: just all around a great opportunity after making not great
Speaker 2: money for a while. My issue is I need to
Speaker 2: make a sample and turn it into my future employer
Speaker 2: by Wednesday. Due to lots of unforeseen and out of
Speaker 2: my control issues, I won't be able to start the
Speaker 2: sample until tomorrow. I work two jobs tomorrow, which means
Speaker 2: i'll have a limited time to completely said sample. My
Speaker 2: partner says, I need to be rootless and do what
Speaker 2: I can to secure this all round better job, even
Speaker 2: if it means lying to get out of one of
Speaker 2: my jobs tomorrow to buy myself more time to complete
Speaker 2: the sample. I hate lying, but be devastated if I
Speaker 2: lose out on this job.
Speaker 3: Looking for advice on what to do. So summary this.
Speaker 3: A person has a job, or they have two jobs.
Speaker 2: They want to leave those jobs to go work at
Speaker 2: another job that's amazing, dream job. However, they've made big
Speaker 2: commitments in the current job, and in order to do
Speaker 2: what is required to get the new job, they need
Speaker 2: to flake on those commitments, which is not great.
Speaker 3: What would you suggest they do? This is your friend
Speaker 3: coming to you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you got a flake. Get out of the girl.
Speaker 4: If you think you're going to get the job, you
Speaker 4: gotta go ham See.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing, though, Like you've got to be
Speaker 2: so sure that, like you're wrapping it up, you're gonna
Speaker 2: turn in that sample.
Speaker 3: They're gonna love it getting the job. What's the sample?
Speaker 3: Is it like a woodwork I'm assuming carpenter. Did I
Speaker 3: make that up? I think I think that's sort of mean.
Speaker 4: I think I heard that let's just get someone from
Speaker 4: Kmart Plywood number.
Speaker 3: I think it's totally worth it.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about this idea of obligations
Speaker 2: from like decisions that you've made in like a prior state.
Speaker 2: Now you've lived with them, you're like, okay, take it back?
Speaker 2: What like what everything? Let's say you agree to hang
Speaker 2: it with a friend you know in two weeks time.
Speaker 2: Two weeks time come, the vibe isn't there anymore. I
Speaker 2: should get a like a get out of jail free card.
Speaker 2: Let's make it a big deal. I wanted to at
Speaker 2: the time. The vibe has changed. Let me act accordingly.
Speaker 2: Plenty of people do that, yeah, and I think, but
Speaker 2: I think they also get a bad rap. I personally
Speaker 2: would hate for anybody to commit to me begrudgingly. Like
Speaker 2: if I asked you to hang out in two weeks time,
Speaker 2: two weeks time comes, you're feeling off it, you don't
Speaker 2: know where you're living at the moment you come back
Speaker 2: from a trip, I prefer you to say, oh, not
Speaker 2: in the mood, then like come and be like, oh
Speaker 2: I'm really tired, and like, oh, I've got so much
Speaker 2: on like I wish I just let a laugh.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a drainer. Yeah, literally, leave stay
Speaker 3: at home. Just stay at home. I get it.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think there's something to be said in not canceling
Speaker 4: things and just showing up. Yeah, because it's easy to cancel.
Speaker 4: Remember when like, oh, cancel plans some personality training. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel like that was a big one that stopped
Speaker 4: over COVID, probably because we don't have.
Speaker 3: To because we got desperate.
Speaker 2: Not only desperate though, but I feel like when we
Speaker 2: when the world started opening up again and stuff started happening,
Speaker 2: but then you weren't invited, You're like, oh, I gotta
Speaker 2: put gotta put some effort back into these friendship Okay.
Speaker 3: Am I I'm back. We're back on the guest list. Please.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: I am currently experiencing almost abilitating hunger pangs, which I
Speaker 2: don't know why that's happening because I did have half
Speaker 2: an avocado toast and fed a sandwich and two Hash browns.
Speaker 2: I mean it was like one in a bit because
Speaker 2: I was far too early, But that should be tiding
Speaker 2: me over. It's going to be a couple of hours
Speaker 2: and I think I might pass out.
Speaker 4: Well after eat every three hours minimum. So I don't
Speaker 4: know how you're coping.
Speaker 3: I just go into the reserves.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not for me.
Speaker 4: I want to tell you a story that I heard
Speaker 4: when I was overseas. Oh my mother, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So I kind of there's no way to not launch
Speaker 4: into this story.
Speaker 3: Launch.
Speaker 4: I told a friend of mine that I was going
Speaker 4: to Abitha and she said, oh my god, I've heard
Speaker 4: the craziest story about Ibitha. And she said that she
Speaker 4: knew a person that was in Ibifa and was going
Speaker 4: to a house party.
Speaker 3: Before the house party.
Speaker 4: A bunch of their friends had pres and something was
Speaker 4: taken that altered his mind.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like the way you phrase that.
Speaker 4: Then he decides to let everyone drives to the party.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming it was in like a jeep wrangler, soft top,
Speaker 4: soft top, okay, the tops down in the in the
Speaker 4: jeep Wrangler, and he is put his arm out the window.
Speaker 4: No going, you know, one hundred miles an hour or whatever.
Speaker 4: The arm is severed. No, they hit past the tree,
Speaker 4: arm comes off. This man is not in a typical
Speaker 4: reality frame of mind.
Speaker 3: He's in the vortex. So much so that neither.
Speaker 4: He nor anyone else in the car realized. He arrives
Speaker 4: at the party literally without an arm, walks in. Everybody's
Speaker 4: freaking out, obviously.
Speaker 3: Literally you're like, what is this? What is this?
Speaker 4: This is a bit stally lost his arm. They had
Speaker 4: to you know, beathe is quite small, but they're on
Speaker 4: the other side of the island. Had to get a
Speaker 4: car and go and find the arm. The woods, no,
Speaker 4: and they tried to stitch at that.
Speaker 2: You just let it go, that's gonna find the arm,
Speaker 2: and they stitch it back.
Speaker 3: I don't think they could at that point. Imagine just
Speaker 3: being so out of it, like it's giving extreme empty head,
Speaker 3: like what does that work?
Speaker 4: But it's true because then my you know, my friend
Speaker 4: who was telling me this story sounds whird, too crazy
Speaker 4: to be real.
Speaker 3: Did you google it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: She met up with people that she met, someone who
Speaker 4: worked in the hospital and my Betha she said, oh,
Speaker 4: someone told me this crazy story and she said, yes,
Speaker 4: that happened a few no folklora on the island.
Speaker 3: Everybody lives in the car.
Speaker 2: I know you all want your movie moment, your o
Speaker 2: C little Laguna beach moment.
Speaker 3: It's not free you, okay.
Speaker 2: Every now and then I put the windows down, get
Speaker 2: a little finger out to see what the air temper
Speaker 2: is doing. And I regret it every single time because
Speaker 2: what if that would be the last time I lost
Speaker 2: my fingers? And I don't know about you, but my fingers
Speaker 2: are very nice. I'm a quick, look like slender, beautiful,
Speaker 2: great noil bits. I can't live my life without these.
Speaker 2: And imagine the embarrassment I would feel when I tell
Speaker 2: the story of how I lost my fingers doing an
Speaker 2: avoidable I hate this guy, though I understand.
Speaker 3: That's pretty sad.
Speaker 2: It's my story, shaking in my boots. Though I hate
Speaker 2: that I can identify the feeling of anxiety in my
Speaker 2: body because I'm making feel anxious and.
Speaker 3: I feel that way at all. I hate that, but
Speaker 3: I like that f and.
Speaker 4: Fods, we are your principles vice principal and deputy principle,
Speaker 4: and which is the higher ranking vice and.
Speaker 3: Deputy the same?
Speaker 4: I wasn't giving a principle just because I don't believe
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 3: Of us should be able better than the other. That's
Speaker 3: what you and I differ.
Speaker 2: If we weren't vice and deputy principle. I think I
Speaker 2: want to be school counselor or pee teacher.
Speaker 4: Definitely pee teacher for you, I'm drama. Drama literally, mister g.
Speaker 1: Is the energy that's the hectic.
Speaker 3: I actually was thinking the other day about doing teaching. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's still time while you're doing that.
Speaker 2: I think I want to do my apprenticeship in carpentry.
Speaker 3: Why would you laugh? I think it would be so good.
Speaker 2: I can't build up literally being high for about trades.
Speaker 2: I think they're the background of the society. I feel
Speaker 2: like this can't exist without them.
Speaker 3: We're going to data trade. Shout out to trades. We
Speaker 3: want a data plumber. I just want people to respect them,
Speaker 3: put a strict on their name, but loudly and proudly.
Speaker 2: You know, would you believe me if I told you
Speaker 2: that in California at one point in time over the
Speaker 2: last decade, it took more than double the time to
Speaker 2: become a licensed cosmatologist then it did to become a cop.
Speaker 3: Oh, what's a cosmetologist?
Speaker 2: You know, like you do beauty routines like waxing nails, hair,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Wow, do you know what? Not surprised? Really? I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 4: I feel like the I feel like for something like
Speaker 4: being a police person. We hold them in such high
Speaker 4: esteem or they thought of as like I almost don't
Speaker 4: think of police people as real people. I think of
Speaker 4: authority figures is not people.
Speaker 3: Then you assume that do you want to.
Speaker 4: Not in an acab way necessarily, do you want to
Speaker 4: just that like yourself slowly? Well in like I don't
Speaker 4: even because you are in a job that involves the
Speaker 4: law and stuff that all governs us, and you have
Speaker 4: some sort of power. I then think like, oh, it
Speaker 4: must be so hard to become a policeman. But then
Speaker 4: if you actually look at what the training they do,
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, it's actually not that hard.
Speaker 2: I did see some training on my TikTok the other day.
Speaker 2: It was like beat tests. All this is the physical,
Speaker 2: not the whole bit the beat. But I saw some
Speaker 2: beat tests. I saw some push ups, twenty five push ups.
Speaker 2: That was part of the criteria.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, on on toes, on toes. Yeah, even for women.
Speaker 3: I didn't see any women in the video.
Speaker 4: Can I why don't have to be fit? What happened
Speaker 4: to Chief William? I want to be eating donuts?
Speaker 2: The Simpsons the documentary, So yeah, that was in California.
Speaker 2: That first that I gave you sixteen hundred hours to
Speaker 2: become a licensed cosmetologist and six hundred and sixty four
Speaker 2: hours to become a police officer. And in North Carolina,
Speaker 2: it takes almost, yeah, about fifteen thousand hours to become
Speaker 2: a licensed barber, and the state's minimum police training requirement
Speaker 2: is six hundred and twenty hours.
Speaker 4: It's because everybody's hot in California, so they've got to
Speaker 4: like make sure they're not gonna fudge up anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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