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Speaker 4: Hi. I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby. Welcome to its lay It.

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Speaker 2: We're in a long distance friendship that started over twenty

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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything

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Speaker 3: and everything else under the sun.

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Speaker 2: Delve deeper with us because in life, you know my layers.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Hello everybody, and

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Speaker 2: welcome to a brand new episode of its Layered podcast.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 2: We are very excited. We've got a special guest in

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Speaker 2: the build and we're gonna tell you a little bit

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Speaker 2: more about them. So we've got Hilsey born Hilary Chipunza

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Speaker 2: is one of Zimbabwean's most promising and exciting upcoming contemporary

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Speaker 2: the globe using his unique voice, poignant lyrics and captivating

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Speaker 2: vulnerability that's for sure. In twenty seventeen, Hilsey had a

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Speaker 2: breakout year when he released Murora, an Impassion and stripped

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Speaker 2: The song is known as one of Zimbabwe's quintessential wedding songs.

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Speaker 3: After releasing his commercially acclaimed Sicana EP, which we loved

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Speaker 3: topping collaborations with Shasha and Jimmy Griffiths, Hilsey continued to

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Speaker 3: in the Building. Welcome to it Laid Podcast. Hilsey, you're

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Speaker 3: in the building and our is laid podcast Building.

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Speaker 2: We're great, Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 4: You have say it's hell in the building.

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Speaker 2: If anything el say in the building, that's you know

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Speaker 2: tagline anytime you sung the song. Yeah, we're so stoked

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Speaker 2: to have you as fans of your music and your work,

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Speaker 2: ethic and everything you're currently up to. Anyone who knows

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Speaker 2: Amanda and I were talking about it earlier before we

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Speaker 2: So before we get all into you know the music

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Speaker 2: and all that. We just wanted to say, Hilsey, who

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Speaker 1: So Hill was he's an artist during the night, I

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Speaker 1: I am an iOS developer. Sorry, I make apps for

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Speaker 1: like iPhones. That's that's what I did, like for school.

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Speaker 1: I'm also into a little bit of farming. I help

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Speaker 1: The closest to me actually call me mister Massin. So

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Speaker 1: pretty much who he is. I'm ah, it's kind of busy.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it sounds like with parents obviously there

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Speaker 1: More than anything is just like the soul. It's soul

431
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,239
Speaker 1: for music, and you know, you can listen to it

432
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: and you can just really feel online or you can

433
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: start thinking about stuff. You can start thinking about your life.

434
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Music that actually makes you sit down and you know,

435
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: like being another place. So I think that's what I

436
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: want people to feel when they when they listen to

437
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: my to my music at the end of the day,

438
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: that's dope.

439
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: And the vulnerability also shines through, the authenticity shines through.

440
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: I absolutely get what you're saying about some music you

441
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: listen surface level, like you just yeah yeah, but like

442
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: when you get And it's funny because my sister is

443
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: a huge Chris Brown fan, and she's like, there's something

444
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: about Chris Brown when he just like sings and and

445
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: I get.

446
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: I get that.

447
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: It's like even though yes, he does so much music,

448
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: but he still has the heart and soul for it.

449
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, which is what I feel about Drake, Old Drake. Okay,

450
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: I'm old. Let me not give away my age.

451
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: I feel that way about you know, Old.

452
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: Drake, Thank me later, Drake all that, Like I get

453
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: that from him.

454
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: You know, you've talked a lot about the work you've

455
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: put in into your own music, the journey you've told us.

456
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: What advice would you give.

457
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: To someone who's aspiring to do music within Zimbabwe?

458
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: I would say, so your goals first. I think that's

459
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: number one. It's key because you don't want to be

460
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: like a plastic pig. Paper is so a drill.

461
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 4: You can you please take a moment to appreciate that back?

462
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: You know what?

463
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I but do you do you do you understand what

464
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying?

465
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.

466
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: Like I think as an artist you need to like

467
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: to find or find your sound to be like this

468
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: is even if I don't know, if I jump on

469
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: this other song, people can tell me this is, this

470
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: is elsy. So I think it's like find your sound,

471
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, set your goals even if R N B

472
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: S Wood, even if you know, just hold your skill,

473
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: like be good at one thing at least like one

474
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: specific genere tot. You know, people should get to a

475
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: point where they know if he was he was on this,

476
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: you would kill it. You know, those kind of vibes

477
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: like cement you I don't know your work and if anything,

478
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: you just you just keep working. For me and Ninny,

479
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: I've avoided a lot of controversies. I've avoided a lot

480
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: of things by just staying in the studio and just working.

481
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: And so for me, I think the work ethic comes

482
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: first as opposed to like these days, I feel like

483
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: social media Instagram people also want to like work on

484
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: an image at the same time they want to work

485
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: like on the sound, and then they want to provoke

486
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: someone so that like all eyes on them, And I

487
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: feel like that's that's not music. When you're doing that,

488
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: that's that's that's showbiz. To be honest, like if you're

489
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: if you really want to be like master craft, like

490
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: just getting the studio work and you you will get better.

491
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: It's like it's like running. If you're going to run around,

492
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: you would first day you're going to do fifteen minutes.

493
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: Second day, maybe forty six weeks later you'll be doing

494
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: like nine minutes. Did you understand? So I feel like

495
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't put the work in. They

496
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: don't actually put the work ethic to be like I'm working.

497
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm working regardless of if this is going to be

498
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: posted on ZIM celebs or not, or piece or not.

499
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just it's exercise and you do

500
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: get better. You get feedback from that. So keep working.

501
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: Set your goals and yeah, I just don't be moved

502
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: man Like, set your goals and you know, stick at

503
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: it and once once to achieve your goal, you go

504
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: into the gyp to the next.

505
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned that on your BBC Africa interview about how

506
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: you Know. I think there was a question around are

507
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: you going to go into afrobeads or like that genre?

508
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: And I distinctly remember you saying that while I may

509
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: feature on a song for afrobeats or you know, I

510
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: don't see myself going to say I'm going to pursue

511
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: that genre. And I thought that struck me quite a

512
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: bit because I was like, Okay, this is someone who

513
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: knows what he wants and knows what.

514
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: He his music as well.

515
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: What you're laying is what.

516
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: You're good at and he's And people don't like that, right,

517
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Like some people are like, oh no, you need to

518
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: be able to just and it's like.

519
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: No jump on the trends.

520
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you obviously do it for the music, and

521
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: you obviously know what you're.

522
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: Doing for me.

523
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: So the reason why I say that, so, for instance,

524
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: an example is with Chargy. The reason why I did

525
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Chargey was I'd actually listened to that Oaccelate song Oxceolate

526
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: the Infinity Infinity right, and I was like, Yo, this

527
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: is so nice. I want to make something like that.

528
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: And I literally I made that, but obviously I was like,

529
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: I want to make my own, you know different, my

530
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: aphro beat version. However, with Chargy being successful, I can't

531
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: then call myself the afro beat king. Do you understand,

532
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: Like it's one song, I did it nice. It's like

533
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: you're a soccer star, You're LEO. See if you can

534
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: defends walked defend. It's like you you you have to

535
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: have your liking. So that's why I was like, in

536
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: as much as I can make the craft, I can

537
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: work on it, and you know, I just don't have

538
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: a deeper connection to it, you know. And and I

539
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: would know. My ways is to like making a whole

540
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: aprobat album as a verse that he's you know, do

541
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: me a verse. I did a song for a deal

542
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: love story that was very afrobaty, and it worked out

543
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: because I just gave him the verse. But if you

544
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: give me like a hip hop song and R and

545
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: B song, I can tell you from start to finish

546
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: how to layer it, you know, and and how so

547
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: and and I'll know even if I like and if

548
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: someone R and B they're in the US, they can

549
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: resonate to this. They can see who to this person

550
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: is actually full of structure. Oh wow, But we to bridge.

551
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's that's pretty much what I was saying,

552
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: like one hundred percent, I could could make a pop song.

553
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I would make a so song, but only as a feature.

554
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: Because so yeah, it's great that you say that, because

555
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: even like GRIMBYA and I were saying with premiere with Gemma.

556
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: We've never heard Gemma sound like that when she was

557
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: on your like no, and you've just proven by saying this,

558
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: and you you led that song for he shed the

559
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: way she sang it, So you've just literally proven exactly

560
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: what you're saying. You're not just saying these words and

561
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: it's empty because we're just saying, oh my gosh, Jemma

562
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: sounds so different, but it fits in with.

563
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: What you're doing.

564
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: So I love that you're able to produce and bring

565
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: that out of her as well.

566
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: Just speaks to your talent, It really does.

567
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Even Shasha, I think we hadn't heard her current album

568
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: hadn't come out yet, and good Bye it.

569
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: Was still Shasha still the voice.

570
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: But I was like, okay, and now we got a

571
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: lot more of the R and V R and B

572
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: vibes from her in her latest project, I'm.

573
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: Alive, Like do you understand?

574
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: So?

575
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 2: And I could lay lay but now currently repeats blank,

576
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: I love blink, How you did like.

577
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: That? That beats that progression? How you know that?

578
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: And it's very yeah, like your music often leaves you

579
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: wanting more, like I could listen to this again.

580
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: I want to hear more. So yeah, and it's funny.

581
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned charging because I'm an afrobeat head,

582
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: so Charge has.

583
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: Been on repeat for me.

584
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: But I am I see that, So you see all

585
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: to say, you know, all the work you put in,

586
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: all the intent you put behind your music shows, and

587
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: the quality is unprecedented, and keep going like seriously obviously

588
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: getting what you're trying to put our getting it.

589
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: But you know, like such such an unpopular opinion. So

590
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm more of a producer more than I

591
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: like an artist. So all these things just you're telling

592
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: me the sonics and everything I pretty much arranged that,

593
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to okay, fine, like yes you

594
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: know you by right lyrics, you know, but I think

595
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: most of the work that I'm even obsessed with. And

596
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: this also comes to like I think I want to

597
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: sign people now. I want to start, like you know,

598
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: bringing other artists. But for me, my my biggest worry

599
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: or concern was in as much as I have all

600
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: this knowledge, I haven't really implemented it. So he'lls has

601
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: pretty much like you know, implemented what I would want

602
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: to envision. Even if I want to sign someone, I

603
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: can easily then say yo, you know, I know these

604
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: guys and I room have a podcast. I know dj

605
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: A do from BBC. It's like, you don't just want

606
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: to be signed and you're seated there, You're also expecting something,

607
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of a thing. So I feel

608
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: like beyond that, the sonics are definitely helping me build

609
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: this thing that I can then eventually, like you know,

610
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: get to share with other artists and even when I

611
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: record with them, I show them how I do it

612
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: eventually so that you know they can also become someone.

613
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm grateful that you guys are telling me

614
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: all these things, are giving me this feedback because it's like, wow,

615
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: it's really coming together.

616
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: No, we see it, and as you don't, like we

617
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: net my bars Long Street.

618
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: I just need right.

619
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: But you know, it's kind of funny you're coming to

620
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: this conclusion that maybe you are more producer because all

621
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: the things you talked about, like touring and sometimes being

622
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: on stage. So maybe it's like now you know the

623
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: whole craft, and now you're deciding I want to you know,

624
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: appreciate the music and take a step back, and like

625
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: that's not bad.

626
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: Is that? Because now you know the whole story.

627
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: So even when you're patting wisdom and people you sign up,

628
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: you know there will no you know what's talking about

629
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: You're not just yes.

630
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm he did, no, the whole premise,

631
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: like he comes from once in a blue.

632
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: Moon and.

633
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: That was his whole Yeah.

634
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to say, So that's what. So,

635
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: mister Maceine, what my scene actually means is massive in house,

636
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: so it's short for that, so it's mass for massive

637
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: and then the I n H is in house, so

638
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: my scene so eventually, yeah, I just want to be

639
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: mister Marcene putting on carriers, you know, like irmb artists,

640
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: hip hop artists based off of like what I've obviously

641
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: done best off my marriage. So that's definitely the goal.

642
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't intend, you know, like to make music the

643
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: whole time. Again, the writing is amazing. I definitely say

644
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: I love how I write, but I want to do

645
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: it for a bigger start, you know, like I really

646
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: hope that you know someone else from ZIM you know,

647
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: who can carry on the torch, but in I want

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Speaker 1: to be input on just you know, like writing for

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Speaker 1: them and then you know they become a bigger artist.

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Speaker 1: Because I've also learned that with the music industry, you

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Speaker 1: build with each other and on top of each other,

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Speaker 1: you need someone like with Narrow. I didn't make the

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Speaker 1: beat for Narrow, neither did I know I was going

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Speaker 1: to make it. But someone just send me the beat

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Speaker 1: I listened to. I was like, oh my god. And

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Speaker 1: it also like unlocked my you know, my writing ability.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I had so much fun with it.

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Speaker 1: And that's how it should be as well. It's like,

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Speaker 1: if I get onto this podcast, I should inspire you guys,

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Speaker 1: or at least you should then have a different outlook,

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Speaker 1: you know, with regards for like artists or musicians, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it builds on top of that. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, we are all inspired by you

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Speaker 1: know someone, and I just want to do that that

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Speaker 1: inspirational guy, you know, and beyond that, I think, now

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Speaker 1: it's just the proof of work. I'm just building the

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Speaker 1: proof of it. And then if you hear now do

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Speaker 1: you usually assigned someone, you can also be like I

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Speaker 1: would listen to that, to that exactly, I know, I

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Speaker 1: know how this guy works, so yeah, vision and vision

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Speaker 1: I will.

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Speaker 2: Get that's job. No, hellsy, I mean this, this has

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00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: been so much fun. Like talking to you. It's always

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Speaker 2: great when you to someone and they match or exceed

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Speaker 2: your your not expectations, but like what you thought they

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Speaker 2: were and then they you know, exceed or super see

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: that like you're just like okay, yeah, it's tracks like tracks.

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Speaker 2: Why you know I like the music or you know

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Speaker 2: I enjoy or connect with it, So it absolutely makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Our final question, I guess would be any upcoming projects

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Speaker 2: that you would like to share with us as well

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Speaker 2: as your social media.

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00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: If people don't, don't you know, so please let us know.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna work on an EP. Another on

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Speaker 1: the aim for In the Building was again you heard

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Speaker 1: on the BBC interview just to get on the Africa

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Speaker 1: and Rollster. So just from the EP, I definitely have

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00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: gotten like you know, proper shoutouts aka show my Jersey, Gigy,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Chris Brown producer. Like, there's people who

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00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: are definitely you know, they want to work. So for me,

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Speaker 1: it was a question of should I do a deluxe

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Speaker 1: of like in the Building with the with the narrow

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Speaker 1: remix in there, or do I completely just study a

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Speaker 1: new body of work. So right now it's I think

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start a new body of work because

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Speaker 1: I've already I already have songs that I loaded and

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Speaker 1: impact beyond the sound. So I found my sound first.

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Speaker 1: Now I've found my strategy as well, So I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to be implementing that. You know, the numbers are

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Speaker 1: amazing in the building and I want to double that

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Speaker 1: now hopefully with more like international collaborations as well. And

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Speaker 1: then with regards to my socials, uh yeah, it's he'll

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Speaker 1: z h I double l z y nine one one.

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Speaker 1: The nine one one is completely a random thing. People

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Speaker 1: always ask.

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Speaker 3: Me like.

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Speaker 2: Emergency emergency, isn't it funny when we started out socials,

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Speaker 2: you probably didn't even think.

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Speaker 4: Then I'm like, I can't go back someone.

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Speaker 1: The So so it's like my Twitter. I got onto

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Speaker 1: Twitter heels he was already taken and I put it

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Speaker 1: nine one one there and then yeah, Instagram came up.

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Speaker 1: You know Youtubengo result I think are consistent robo so

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Speaker 1: it's nine eleven on all platforms.

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Speaker 3: You know, now you need to release an epos. I

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Speaker 3: think that's just nine to one one.

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Speaker 1: So together, you know what is actually supposed to recall

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Speaker 1: eleven past nine? It needs to be nice. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking of that, but who knows, you know, like I

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Speaker 1: will see how I work with it. But one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people already call me ninet eleven

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Speaker 1: like they're like nine eleven, we say nine one one,

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Speaker 1: We say so like.

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Speaker 3: Our people time the nicknames quick with it. This has

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Speaker 3: been absolutely amazing for us. You know, we also love

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Speaker 3: how seamlessly you you sing with our language as well,

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Speaker 3: with Shana and English intertwined, because that is how rempublicans

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Speaker 3: are and I think when you sing like that as well,

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Speaker 3: it just resonates so much with us because that's how

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Speaker 3: we speak, that's how we interact. And we are big

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Speaker 3: fans and cannot wait to see all the things that

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Speaker 3: are coming your way, all the manifestations, everything you talked about.

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Speaker 4: We wish you all the best.

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Speaker 3: We are absolutely stoked that she came onto our podcast

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Speaker 3: and yeah, anything else, no, you've.

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Speaker 4: Said it all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much, Hilsey. If you haven't

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Speaker 2: listened to his music, please check it out. It's on

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Speaker 2: Spotify or wherever you guys listen to your music. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's everywhere. It's it's well worth it, well worth it.

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Speaker 4: Mumbo terra bas mumbo.

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Speaker 2: You know, but you also thinks a lot of ballads too,

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Speaker 2: Lady e B crooning, yes, yeah, no, Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: and thank you, of course, as always for listening to

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00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: another episode of our podcast, It's Layered. If you have questions,

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Speaker 2: hit us up. It's Layered Pod at gmail dot com.

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00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: We're on Instagram, it's layered Twitter. It's Layered Pod. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, and thank you so much. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you on the next episode. Good Bye, no no no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah