1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Daily This is the Daily ohs oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily ODS. It's Thursday, 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the seventh of March. I'm Zara, I'm emma. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm the editor of the Daily ODS. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: This week, millions of people in the US voted in 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: their state's primary elections in a day known as Super Tuesday. 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday is here. Today. People in more than a 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: dozen states will vote in the largest single day voting 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: event of the primary season. 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: They call it Super Tuesday for a reason. 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Super Tuesday is one of the most important days in 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: the US presidential election cycle. But as anyone listening might 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: have worked out, the electoral system in the US is 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: pretty different to how things work here in Australia. So 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: we're going to take you through Super Tuesday, how it 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: all works, and what this sweek's polls actually mean in 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: today's deep dive. 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: But first, Zara, what's making headlights? Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: has announced two billion dollars in trade and investment funding 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia. The funding is designed to support a 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: transition to clean energy in the region and the development 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: of new infrastructure. It comes as the Association of Southeast 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: Asian Nation Summit so Asian came to a close in 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Melbourne yesterday. 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Australia's economy grew zero point two percent from October to 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: December in twenty twenty three, according to new data from 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: the Australian Bureau of Statistics. This figure is the growth 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: of the gross domestic product or GDP, which is the 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: total value of all goods and services produced within a country. 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: The Head of National Accounts at the ABS said government 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: spending and private business investments were the main causes of 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: growth during the period. 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Peru's Prime Minister, Alberto Otarala has stepped down over an 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: alleged audio leak accusing him of corruption. The audio recording 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: was allegedly of the Prime minister from before his time 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: in office, speaking to a woman about how much he 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: loved her and telling her to send him his CV. 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: The woman was later awarded contracts to carry out government work. 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: The Prime minister has denied any wrongdoing that announced in 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: a letter to Peru's president that he is formally resigning 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: as prime minister after just over a year in office. 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: And today's good news, global health donors have announced new 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: funding worth nine hundred and twenty million dollars to eliminate 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: cervical cancer. Cervical cancer is the fourth most common cancer 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: in women, and over ninety percent of deaths from cervical 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: cancer occur in low and middle income countries. The new 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: funding aims to meet a number of targets by twenty thirty, 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: such as vaccinating ninety percent of girls against HPV, a 50 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: precursor to XIX cervical cancer, by the age of fifteen, 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: and ensuring that women with cervical disease receive the correct treatment. 52 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: Funding donors include the World Bank, UNISEF, and the Bill 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: and Melinda Gates Foundation. 54 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: ZARA. 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: One of the biggest tests for US presidential candidates has 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: finally come and gone. Super Tuesday. I feel like we 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: were hearing about this day for a long time, and 58 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 2: if you're listening wondering why we're talking about a Tuesday 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: on a Thursday, that has a lot to do with 60 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: time zones. 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I think this is the hardest maths we've ever had 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: to do, truly perplexing. 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Voting across more than a dozen US states didn't actually 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: conclude until mid to late in the afternoon for most 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: of us. Here in Australia on Wednesday. That's why Thursday 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: morning we are talking about Super Tuesday. 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I want to get to Super Tuesday in just a second. 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: But Super Tuesday is just one element of a vastly 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: different election process in the US. The what we have 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: here in Australia. Can you just give us a bit 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: of a lay of the land. How does it actually 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: work in the US. 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: So the first thing to say is that there are 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: two major parties in the US. So we have the 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Republican Party, the traditionally more conservative or right leaning party, 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: and the Democrats with the sort of traditionally more progressive 77 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: or left leaning values. Joe Biden, the current President of 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: the US, is a Democrat. So going into a US election, 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: there might be anywhere from one to a handful of 80 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: hopefuls on both sides who are competing to become their 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: party's official presidential candidate, and that candidate is known as 82 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: the party's nominee. So when it comes to the lead 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: up to a presidential election, each of the fifty states 84 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: in the US has its own rules, but most hold 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: a vote called a primary ballot or primaries. You've probably 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: heard yeah discussed, and this is where voters have their 87 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: say on who they think should be their party's presidential candidate. 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: So just to clarify here, we're talking about states going 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: to vote for who the candidate for the major parties 90 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: should be, not who should actually be president. Yep, exactly. 91 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: So if we were in California on Tuesday, we might 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: go to the polls to decide who our favorite Republican 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: candidate was or who our favorite Democrat candidate was. A 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: small number of states hold something called a caucus instead 95 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: of a primary, and they're run by political parties where 96 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: registered members can cast their vote at a meeting. They 97 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: only happen in a few of those fifty states. 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: So those are primaries. What Super Tuesday then. 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: So Super Tuesday refers to a day, the first Tuesday 100 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: of March, when a group of states hold their primaries 101 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: on the same day, so a bunch of states. We're 102 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: talking sixteen this year, but that number varies from year 103 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: to year. It's not the day when the nominees are confirmed, 104 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: so the Republican nominee, Democrat nominee. It's a day that does, 105 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: give us, however, a pretty good idea of who will 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: ultimately lead each of the major. 107 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Parties, because there are so many primaries in one day 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: that if you see someone sweeping all of those primaries, 109 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: it's a pretty clear indication. 110 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: Exactly. So the number of primaries varies every election on 111 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Super Tuesday, as I said, but this year we had 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: those sixteen primaries all on the same day, hence Super Tuesday. 113 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: But it's very literal, Yeah, very literal. It's just super. 114 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: It's just big sixteen. 115 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: Is not a super as it's been before. To give 116 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: you a sense of how super it can get. Before 117 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Obama became president in two thousand and eight, he faced 118 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: off with Hillary Clinton in twenty four Democrat contests for 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: the nomination for his party. So, okay, twenty four primaries 120 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: on that Super Tuesday. 121 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So is there anything behind why Super Tuesday exists? 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Like why is it on a Tuesday? We vote on 123 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: a Saturday. Why are they doing on a Tuesday? That 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: feels really inconvenient for everybody involved. 125 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: Yep, this is a really good question and one with 126 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: a pretty interesting answer, a little bit of a strange one. 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Voting is not compulsory in the US, we should say 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: off the bat, But voting on a Tuesday is actually 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: an American tradition that dates back to the nineteenth century, right. 130 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Get this. 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: It's because back in the day, Christian farmers needed enough 132 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: time to travel from their towns and their farms to 133 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: voting booths in voting centers and cities after Sunday church services. 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: So Tuesday was considered the least inconvenient because it would 135 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: be like, farmer wakes up, goes to church on Sunday 136 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: and then they have enough time to get the horse 137 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: and cart into town to vote on a Tuesday. 138 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Wow, so go Yeah, that's why. 139 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: And both the November presidential election and Super Tuesdays fall 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: on the first Tuesday of the month, So the final 141 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: big US election day moment that will also come on 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: a Tuesday this year. 143 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I am so looking forward to using that fact at 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: a trivia night and never again at any point in 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: my life. It's a good one. Let's bring ourselves back 146 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: into the twenty first century. What do we need to 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: know about the Super Tuesday results? 148 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: So I'm going to focus more on the Republican primaries 149 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: here because President Joe Biden is expected to be chosen 150 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: as the Democrat nominee and he has no serious challenges, 151 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: but Republican voters this week in states like California, Alabama, Virginia, 152 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: just to name a few, were tasked with choosing between 153 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: the former US President Donald Trump and his last legitimate challenger, 154 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Nicky Hayley, who. 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: We have spoken about a number of times exactly. 156 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: So going into Super Tuesday, they were the remaining two 157 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: Republican candidates in these primaries. Nicki Haley a quick reminder, 158 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: the former governor of South Carolina, a former UN ambassador, 159 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: and despite losing in almost every primary before this week 160 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: except Washington, where there's I'm sure a joke here about 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: how there are less than five Republicans in the state 162 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: of Washington, Hailey had vowed to hang in there. She 163 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: promised voters that she was going to stick it out 164 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: to at least Super Tuesday as an alternative to Trump. 165 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: South Carolina has spoken, We're the fourth state to do so. 166 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: In the next ten days, another twenty one states and 167 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: territories will speak. They have the right to a real choice, 168 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: not a Soviet style election with only one candidate, and 169 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: I have a duty to give them that choice. 170 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: So, going into Super Tuesday, then this week, Trump was 171 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: considered the overwhelming favorite, and the results are consistent with 172 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: that trend. Nikki Haley won in at least the state 173 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: of Vermont with fifty point one percent of the vote, 174 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: But it does look like, at least at the time 175 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: of recording, Trump has won at least a dozen more 176 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: states in the primaries, and that paid the way for 177 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: what many have been expecting a twenty twenty presidential election 178 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: rematch showdown between Biden and Trump. 179 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have the rights to play 180 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: Beyonce's d but if we did, I would play it 181 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: right now. 182 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: I would sing it right now if I didn't think 183 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: it would ruin everyone's day exactly. 184 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, and here's our voices. Okay, So, if Donald 185 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Trump is expected to be the Republican nominee, I presume 186 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: that means that Nicky Haley's presidential hope. So all bit over. 187 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: Trump's victories in all of these states, and they are many, 188 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: doesn't actually officially crown him the Republican nominee. So he 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: hasn't really formally secured that. But what he has secured 190 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: are lots of delegates, so bear with me. In most cases, 191 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: you can think of delegates as points. So during a 192 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: primary election, the candidate will win a certain number of 193 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: delegates or points, depending on how big the state is. 194 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: A state with more people like California will have more 195 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: delegates up for grabs whoever wins the primary vote, and 196 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: a small er state like Rhode Island will have fewer 197 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: delegates up for grabs. So whoever wins the majority of delegates, 198 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: so again, think of it like points, they will typically 199 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: become their party's nominee den party's presidential candidate. 200 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 201 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: So, because Nikki Hayley has won barely any primaries, she 202 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: has barely any. 203 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Delegates, understood, and so Trump would have many delegates hundreds Okay, 204 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: So if Trump has won that many delegates, it's likely 205 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: he could win the Republican nomination, But we have to 206 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: wait for that to be declared officially. Right when does 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: that happen? 208 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: Yep? So after Super Tuesday, there will still be a 209 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: few more primaries to come in the next couple of months, 210 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: and then both major parties will hold national conventions later 211 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: in the year where their presidential and vice presidential nominees 212 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: will be confirmed. So, even if we know that Trump 213 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: has hundreds and hundreds more delegates than any other challenger. 214 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: He has to wait for the big dance, has to 215 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: wait for the. 216 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: Big dance, and that will be for the Republican Party 217 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: in July in Milwaukee, and the Democratic Convention will be 218 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: in August in Chicago. Now that's where President Joe Biden 219 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: is expected to be chosen is his party's candidate for 220 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: the White House race. And then we can look forward 221 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: to three months of campaigning, which I'm sure will be 222 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: mutually respectful and exciting, before the US election on the 223 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: fifth of November, which as we know, is a Tuesday. 224 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: Now, we do know that before we wrap up. It 225 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: feels like we've been talking about a Biden Trump showdown 226 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: for a long time. At least it seems like that 227 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: was what was going to happen. We know both of 228 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: them can win an election. Both of them have won 229 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: an election. Do we have any more of a sense 230 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: of how things might turn out this time? 231 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a very different world for Donald Trump going 232 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: into this election than the context that he won the 233 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen election, in he defeated Hillary Clinton, she was 234 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: the Democrat nominee at the time. But since then, you know, 235 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: we've seen numerous criminal cases brought against him, multiple lawsuits, 236 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: fraud investigations, and of course the fallout from the January 237 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: sixth attack on the Capitol in twenty twenty one. 238 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: But as chaotic is that. 239 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Might all sound, and as wild as the headlines have 240 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: been in the years since his presidency, it doesn't really 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: seem to have impacted his popularity with voters. 242 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: But nor does it actually impact his ability to run exactly, like, 243 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: none of these criminal trials will actually make any difference 244 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: to his chances of being able to run. 245 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: And just this week we saw court action that was 246 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: overturned in the Supreme Court after states like Colorado vowed 247 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: to remove his name from the election ballot. That decision 248 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: was overturned in the US's highest court this week. So 249 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: you're absolutely right that despite those headlines, there hasn't really 250 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: been any significant obsticle stopping him from running. And if 251 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: we look at Super Tuesday, you know there were huge 252 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 2: swings towards him in some states like Texas and Alabama. 253 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: He won around eighty percent of the vote in those primaries. 254 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: So it's clear that he has both the popularity to 255 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: win the Republican nomination but also the ability to run 256 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: for president. What do we know about how this showdown 257 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: between Trump and Biden is shaping up. Do we have 258 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: any indication of I know, it was still a bit 259 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: far away of who could win in November. 260 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's funny thinking about the fact that 261 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: the election is still eight months away. 262 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: I can't be long eight months. 263 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, a long eight months. But it's already been a 264 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: long year or so since we first started to talk 265 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: about Trump throwing his hat back in the ring. But 266 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: in terms of the numbers, four substantial polls in the 267 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: US this week show that Trump is in front of 268 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: Biden with leads of between two to four percent. So 269 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: that's not nothing, but it's not a dundee. That being said, 270 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: as well, despite Biden being behind in the polls, he 271 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: has the advantage of being an incumbent. Now, this is 272 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: the idea of someone in office seeking re election, and 273 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: historically what we've seen in the US is when a 274 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: current president runs for a second term, they're typically more 275 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: successful than the candidate challenging them. So in the last 276 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: twelve elections in the US, to put this into perspective, 277 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: incumbent candidates have won eight times, leaving four one term presidents. 278 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: So that's gerald for Jimmy Carter, George Bush Senior, and 279 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: of course Trump because he failed to win office for 280 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: a second term when he was an incumbent in that race. 281 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: So history tells us that Joe Biden has that advantage. 282 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Polls tell us that Trump has the popularity advantage. It's 283 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: going to be a long. 284 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Road ahead that it is a lot could change, but 285 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling us the lay of the land today. 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