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Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 1: Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Conquer podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast where which have mindset, self development and becoming

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Speaker 1: plus behind the scenes of my life running two businesses

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Speaker 1: and being among Think of us as the perfect combo

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Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self development. No

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Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey, We're here to

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Speaker 1: help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical

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Speaker 2: If you're ready to get into the.

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Speaker 1: Driver's seat of your own life and stop letting life

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome back to the potty and Happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: Today we have a super fun episode with Cooper. He

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Speaker 2: is answering one of the most asked questions we get,

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Speaker 2: how to get your partner into self development. He touches

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Speaker 2: Hey Cooper, Hey dear, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited to chat to you today about two things.

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Speaker 2: Number one is a question we actually get asked a

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, I would like to say that

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Speaker 3: But there can't be anything around it of force like

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Speaker 3: Of where you try and force this to your partner

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Speaker 3: Where when you tell someone to do something, they use them,

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Speaker 3: you've got to do it. Yeah, you've got to first

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Speaker 3: of all, do it in yourself. So start with yourself.

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Speaker 3: And if you're on the journey and you're feeling that

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Speaker 2: It's usually when you don't want to do it on

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Speaker 3: So everything starts from you. Like you can never blame

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Speaker 2: And would you almost say that it could even work

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Speaker 2: Does anyone ever feel attacked when you say that?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so well, I know there was something else

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you kind of you catch yourself and that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the powers in you, yeah.

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Speaker 3: To me than anyone else. So yeah, that's a that's

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Speaker 2: I love that. I actually can't wait to try that words.

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Speaker 3: You're right about that.

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Speaker 2: You're right about that music. I feel so wrong to say,

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Speaker 3: Try it. Everyone, try it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone try it will pop up both thread in the

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Speaker 3: Because if they're yeah, I can just picture it like

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Speaker 3: And then like yeah, you're in. You're in a relationship

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Speaker 3: They'll be like, I am having a bad day, thanks

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Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you for sharing, Cooper. It's all right,

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