1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Now we'll head be on the bearrom The line and 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: down to Central Australia because joining us on the line 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: is Tourism Central Australia. Well, Daniel Rochford, Good morning to you, Daniel. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, Daniel, I was just trying to get your microphone up, 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: CEO of Tourism Central Australia is how I should have 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: introduced you now, Daniel. We know that it's been a 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: tough time when it comes to tourism all around Australia 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: and indeed all around the world at the moment as 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: a result of COVID. Some good news earlier this week 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I understand there was a funding announcement for some infrastructure 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: or for some upgrades for Central Australia as well. 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, the Federal Minister for Tourism S'm in Birmingham 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: on World Tourism Day on Sunday announced two trenches of funding, 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: one for infrastructure support for tourism operators and tourism as 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: the sector across Australia. And then the second one is 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: a direct three point five million dollar boost to Central 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: Australian marketing efforts. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Wow. Three point five million four Central Australian marketing. How 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how will that help? Oh? 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: Look, it's a massive shot in the arm, Katie. You know, 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: as you know, and I really appreciate the support you've 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: had for our industry and industry here in Central Australia 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: but on life support for the last six months and 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: we've been doing it very tough. So this is a 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: great acknowledgment by the Federal Government that Central Australian tourism 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: region relies very heavily on international visitors and through this announcement, 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: the Federal Government are directly supporting those regions who have 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: specific reliance on international visitation and Central Australia is one 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: of those. 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Now, like you've touched on obviously, international tourism is usually 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a huge part of the market for you guys. How 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: what you know, how can we get Ozzie's to travel 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: to Central Australia and really see all the wonders that 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: make up Central Australia. 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, the challenge is to roll our sleeves up 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: and get that message out. Look, we're very fortunate outbound 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: tourism from Australia, Australian's leaving to go overseas is worth 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: about fifty five billion dollars. So our challenge is to 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: get a slice of that pie once people are traveling domestically, 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: once borders start to come down. We're certainly going to 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: be very active in trying to encourage people to come 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: to Central Australia. It's that overseas holiday that you're not 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: going to get it. It's something very special, spiritual, magical 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: that you get from a Central Australian holiday. 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, it's a magnificent place to visit, 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: there is no doubt about that. And I know that 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: in addition to that infrastructure funding that was announced earlier 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: earlier this week, and also that three point five million dollars, 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: the Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack did announce that well, 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: the federal budget is going to include a three month 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: extension for the government's domestic aviation and regional aviation support programs. 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: No doubt this is also going to be really quite helpful. 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, and getting aviation links into Lara and also 55 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: Alice Springs is going to be critical in our rebound. 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: We're also very keen to get the message out there 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: that we also need to look at some major infrastructure, 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: and a good example of that here in Central Australia, 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: Katie is the outer Marini Loop linking Alice Springs and Ularue. 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: If we can get that across the line, it's a 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: game changer for our tourism industry. 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that we're any chance of doing that? 63 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, we have really stepped up our discussion around 64 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: this particular road that's been talked about for thirty years now. 65 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: But now is the time to get the Marini Loop field. 66 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Why would it be such a game changer, Daniel? 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: You know what if we can get just five percent 68 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: of those people flying into Ulara that are just flying 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: in and out at the moment, coming up into the 70 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: West McDonald Rangers, Wataka and then into Alice Springs, that 71 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: is worth twenty million dollars into our regional visitor economy. 72 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: Wow. 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: And you know we all know. 74 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the likes of the West McDonald Rangers. I mean, 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: some people would argue that they're really the best thing 76 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: to go and visit in Central Australia. 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to pick any winners. I like 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: the whole lot as you can imagine, but there is 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: something special about the West Max And look we're working 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: very closely with a lot of a lot of the 81 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: indigenous organizations to start looking at new tourism ventures in 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: that region. And look, you know, I think it is 83 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: an amazing part of Central Australia and it's an important 84 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle. If we close our eyes for 85 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: a second and imagine in ten years you fly into 86 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: our springs, visit the National Aboriginal Art Gallery and some 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: of the experiences, then getting your car to go to 88 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: the westmax through to a target culminating in the Rock. 89 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: If we as marketers can't sell that to the world, 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: we should give up our day jobs. 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, I mean, look, you've sulted to me. 92 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm probably an easy easy sell though, because I know 93 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: how wonderful Central Australia is. You said twenty million dollars. 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: It'd be worth twenty million dollars to the tourism economy. 95 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: Is that annually? 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Yes? Indeed, Look where that's figures that we've received from 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: from the MTG and also from our information that we've 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: gleaned through economic modeling. You know, that's money going into 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: our local regional economy. You know, a lot of people 100 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: now where traditionally they would fly into our springs and 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: maybe bust down to Airs Rock. What we're seeing now 102 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: is most people flying in to Ularu and then flying 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: back out again. What we're trying to do is increase 104 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: dispersal withinside Central Australia, but also increasing nights, increasing length 105 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: of stay here in the region. 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredibly important and you know we don't want 107 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: our springs missing out. You obviously want to make sure 108 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that everybody in Central Australia sees the benefit of tourists 109 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: arriving and them arriving straight into Ularu would be having 110 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: quite the impact. 111 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so. But look we've got a great 112 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: vision ahead for us. But with this funding and off 113 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: the bat of the summer on sales failed from the 114 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: Tourism Northern Territory and the two rounds of the voucher. Look, 115 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: there's in green bud of optimism there for our industry. 116 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: Now, speaking of that Summer on sale, October is when 117 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: that opens, doesn't it. 118 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And the message is to all Territorians, get 119 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: the message out to all your friends, family and colleagues 120 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: in the other states to go through and talk them 121 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: through to coming to the Northern Territory. Over summer, it's 122 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: going to be the cheapest you're going to ever experience 123 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory from accommodation. Tool prices are traditionally 124 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: a little bit lower in the lower season, so you 125 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: know that's going to be a great opportunity to encourage 126 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: people to come to Central Australia and also the top end. 127 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Now, Daniel, just finally this morning. Obviously job keeper changes 128 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: came into play yesterday. How is that impacting tourism in 129 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: Central Australia and some of our operators. 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh, look, there's no doubt this is probably the most 131 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: challenging situation currently with our industry that is causing a 132 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: lot of anxiety. Look, there's no doubt that we're going 133 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: to see job losses. Businesses are reacting to this as 134 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: we speak, and you know we're going to see some 135 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: negative impacts. There is no doubt. We've certainly been very 136 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: proactive into trying to encourage the federal government to extend it. 137 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: They've made the decision. Look, you know, we welcome what 138 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: we've got on the table, but you know it will 139 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: have consequences unfortunately, especially as our respective regions here in 140 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory top end and Central Australia go into 141 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: our low season, which is going to have a detrimental effect. 142 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt so. Like you said, I mean, it 143 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: is so important for all of us to really it 144 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: might sound a bit silly or maybe a bit cliche, 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: but do make sure that you tell your relatives, you 146 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: tell your friends that live into state, you know, get 147 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: be part of the Summer on Sale initiative. If you're 148 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: a local and you've always thought about traveling to different 149 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: parts of the Northern Territory, we'll try to get out 150 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: there and do it. It is so important that we 151 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: try to keep a bit of an eye out for 152 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: each other at this point in time. 153 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I know the word here in Alyssas there's 154 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people going up to the top end. 155 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm certainly encouraging the reverse of that. Everyone in the 156 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: top end come down to Central Australia in the next 157 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: few weeks and months and experience what we've got down here. 158 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely well. Daniel Rochford, the Tourism Central Australia CEO, 159 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Thanks so much for 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: your time. 161 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, have a great day you too.