1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Solutions are being sought to tackle the likes of the 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: likes of vaping, nangs and chroming among territory youth. NT 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Health is offering grants of up to twenty thousand dollars 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: to community groups as well as counsels and sole traders 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: for projects that target substance misuse. The grants are aiming 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: to address the harms associated with substance misuse and can 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: also go towards staff training in trauma informed care. Now 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: joining me on the line to talk a little bit 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: more about what they do is Mission Australia's area manager 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: Anna Hatchison. Good morning to you. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Anna, Good morning, how are you? 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, really good, Thank you so much for your time 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: this morning. Now, Anna, we recently, well, I mean we've 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: recently seen and heard of a number of incidents where 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: young people have been out chroming and unfortunately engaging in 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: what is it's such terrible, terrible behavior in so many 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: ways and so harmful. 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is really concerning it right, and it 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: seems to be on the increase at the moment, and 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: media really got a hold of it at the moment, 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: especially social media as well. It's pretty concerning. Yes, tell me, 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: you know, what kind. 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Of programs or what kind of impact I guess, firstly, 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: does chroming have on a young person? 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's in terms of a sector. In those 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: of us that work in use in AOD, we've had 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: to change our workforce and our approach chroming thing on 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: the increase significantly, i'd say in the last twelve months, 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: but prior to that as well, we've had to really 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: educate our workforce and how to approach it, what to do, 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: what not to do. We've had to work with Empty 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: House as well as Darwin and Palmerston City councils in 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: terms of providing their education to our stuff. Because this 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: eighteen months ago wasn't a huge concern, you know what, 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: wasn't in your face like it seems to be at 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: the moment. So we have had to shift it of 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: what we're doing there, and you're seeing an increase in 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: it in sort of social areas, in public areas as well. 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: So when you talk. 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: About the health that it has, because I think that 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: it's really important for people to realize just how badly 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: this does affect young people. And I think that for 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: a lot of us, we understand that there are harmful 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: impacts of criming, But what does it do to a 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: young person? 46 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot the there's still a lot to sort 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: of learn around what this does in the long term 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: for us working in the industry in terms of getting 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: a clinical. 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: Well, I'm probably not the best clinical effects, but what 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: it does in the short term for our young people, 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: as you can see in some of the videos that 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: have surfaced, as young people are. 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: Unable to communicate and it can come across as sort 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: of violent and it really causes huge impacts on the 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: heart immediately. But as I was sort of saying, we've 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: had to edge security in our staff and other people 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: that work around with young people, around simple things that 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: do not chase young people who have just chromed, you know, 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: do not approach and things like that, because it can 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: cause significant heart issues right then and there. 62 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: Right, So there's like it's harmful obviously in a lot 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: of ways, but it can be incredibly harmful by the 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: sounds of it to the young person that has chromed. 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, of course it's incredibly harmful. And then 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: looking at what this might look long term for these 67 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: young people is really alarming. 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: So we know that the Northern Territory Government's obviously offering 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: grants of up to twenty thousand dollars two community groups, 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: counsels and sole traders for projects that target substance misuse. 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: And I know that, you know, I've asked you a 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: number of questions there about chroming, but it's not the 73 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: only thing that's sort of on the up and of concern. 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Right now, you know that's right. Unfortunately, alcohol use in 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: young people as well as other substances of mixing things 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: like hand sanitizers and things like that are differently on 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: the app as well. So I guess having grants at 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: this in place is a really awesome step moving forward, 79 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 2: putting it back into the community and community grounds, being 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: able to look at everything from prevention right before the 81 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: youth starts, all the way through education and getting the 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: community involved and expanding existing services and things as well. 83 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: And I know that you know that as part of 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: the announcement that the government had made too, they talk 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: about the likes of vaping and nangs. I don't even 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: know what nangs are, if I'm bluntly honest with you, Anna. 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm not familiar. 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: I'm not such a familiar with nangs myself, with all 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: the lingo, no soesome. It does. 90 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: But vaping is a real concern for you know, for 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: everybody at the moment. It seems to be so incredibly prevalent, 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, around the community. 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and is it so? And how easy it is 94 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: for young people to gain access to vaping is well them? 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: And you see vaping shops or absolutely everywhere you can 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: buy vapes everywhere, you can buy them online through social media. 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: It is quite concerning just how quick the increase has happened, 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: then the ease of access to it. 99 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so obviously the announcement by the government, this 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: seems to be a really good step in the sense 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: that you know, individual grants of up to twenty thousand 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: dollars are available. What can we sort of be doing 103 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: as parents as well to try to make sure that 104 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: we are educating our kids when it comes to things 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: like vaping. 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, keep having the conversations with our young people. You know, 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: a lot of these things are still so new that 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: we don't know the long term impact on these young people. 109 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: You know, vaping wasn't huge when I was a teenager. 110 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: Imagine what this could look like in ten twenty years 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: time in terms of impact. Keep the communication going, changing 112 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: it from being called to sitting around and vaping and 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: chrome into joining all these community initiatives that you'll see 114 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: an increase of. There'll be lots more after our activity 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: than three things for our young people to do, so 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: really engaging in those rather than yeah, buying into this 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: what's call and what's not at the moment, it's a 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: really tricky one. 119 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, what kinds of projects could help in terms of 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: curbing the missues that we do see of substances. So 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: I know that Mission Australia does a lot in their space. 122 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think things that we've seen that work really well, 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: so Mission Beat. So that's one of our after hours 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: youth services where we're sort of going around after ours 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: and engaging with young people who wouldn't normally be out, 126 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: you know, Monday to Friday nine till five, and finding 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: out why they're out, what they're doing, having those conversations, 128 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: and we're seeing quite often it's finding things to do 129 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: after hours, So having activities and things that young people 130 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: can have access to after hours, weekends in school holidays 131 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: seems to be when we're seeing increase in these things. 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: So we're managing to sort of mobilize and you know 133 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: basketball competitions and things like this. And I'm talking eight 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: nineteen pm on Friday Saturday nights. This is when we're 135 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: finding our young people engaging in these sorts of Thanks 136 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: for having more access to I suppose more socially acceptable 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: activities after hours, I think will see a decrease in this. 138 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: And is you know other services of Mission Australia available 139 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: to anybody or if there are people listening this morning 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: that are thinking, you know, I would like to engage 141 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: with Mission Australia. Is that something that anybody can do? 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, particularly with our if you know, if there's 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: events coming out where young people might be congregating, if 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: there's lots of things happening, that's something that Mission beat 145 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: can do as we can mobilize to where the community are. 146 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: But if anyone wants any support in terms of educational 147 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: where they could possibly go for specialist support, we're more 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: than happy to link them into suitable services because there 149 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: are a few out there that would be more than 150 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: willing to help. 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you 152 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: very much for having a chat with us, and hopefully 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again very soon. 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: All right, no worry thank you,