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Speaker 1: Hello, honey, it's me.

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Speaker 2: What did you think when you heard.

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Speaker 1: Me back on the radio booklub? Hello podcast friends, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our book.

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Speaker 3: Club, our book club where we only discuss our very

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Speaker 3: own books.

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Speaker 4: Which sounds incredibly up yourself, But when you look at it,

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Speaker 4: how many people write books? Lots we do this, But

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Speaker 4: how many people write books and then read from their

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Speaker 4: own books?

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Speaker 2: In Podcorp Cast four.

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Speaker 3: Only the tools? Okay, Well, so in the media, it's

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Speaker 3: quite a few call me a tool. We thought we'd

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Speaker 3: read today about working together on the wireless.

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Speaker 2: And how we met working together? How this union that we.

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Speaker 3: Share now, how long is our union?

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Speaker 2: Well, we started working together on air in two thousand,

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Speaker 2: that was the first time.

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Speaker 3: But how about here though, when we're at WS.

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Speaker 4: Two thousand and five and well, in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 4: you came in as the Wednesday girl.

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Speaker 3: The Wednesday Wednesday girl. I wasn't a girl Friday. I

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Speaker 3: was the Wednesday Wednesday girl. So what happens? Just give

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Speaker 3: you to give you an overview of how our day works.

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Speaker 3: We're on air from six to nine, and after nine

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Speaker 3: o'clock we may record some other things for other parts

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Speaker 3: of the show for later in the week, but we

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Speaker 3: hit the ground running. That's what I love about this job.

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Speaker 3: But we come in I get into about five. As

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Speaker 3: I get older, you know, it's taking me longer to

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Speaker 3: get ready. I used to wake up at four, leave

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Speaker 3: home at four thirty. I now wake up at four,

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Speaker 3: leave home at twenty to five. It just takes that

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Speaker 3: much longer for my smash repairs. And I do smash repairs.

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Speaker 3: People wonder if you do on radio, but we do.

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Speaker 3: We see lots of people here throughout the day, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I feel like I've woken up if I'm

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Speaker 3: getting ready for the job, no matter what time of day.

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Speaker 3: The day begins. We have a meeting before the show

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Speaker 3: where we discuss what we'll do on the day's program

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Speaker 3: with our producers, and then pretty much we have a rundown.

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Speaker 3: So this is the fascinating bit. Out of thin air,

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Speaker 3: filled between six and nine. So how many different things

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Speaker 2: A lot? Really it's quite diverse.

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Speaker 3: It'd be six different things an hour pretty much.

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Speaker 4: You've got to have, you know, like the tribal drum,

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Speaker 3: Where we have like a phone topic stuff people are

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Speaker 1: Why have you pooed your pants in public?

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Speaker 3: That was We've had that every day, and.

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Speaker 4: Then the pub test does pooing your pants in public?

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Speaker 4: Past the pub test us.

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Speaker 3: We have interviews and various other things and just other bits.

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Speaker 3: So we pretty much have eighteen different topics a day to.

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Speaker 2: Get to where we are though, to get to where

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Speaker 2: we are right now, it's quite curious how it all started.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's why don't you read from your book yep,

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Speaker 3: as to how it all started.

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Speaker 2: This is how it all started. All started.

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Speaker 4: It was five point fifteen am on a Monday morning

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Speaker 4: He looked a bit like Clint Eastwood. Earned the nickname

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Speaker 4: After a lifetime of looking, well seven minutes, which is

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Speaker 4: I'm Brendan.

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Speaker 2: I'll be your co host today.

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Speaker 3: But we didn't know each other. Yeah, we knew each

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Speaker 3: and you said that ironically because you were normally you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'd been through the troubles, which we just

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Speaker 2: And we'd come through that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were friends. We hadn't worked that much together,

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Speaker 4: If we hadn't have patched up, though I don't think

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Speaker 2: You would have refused to work with me, surely, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about.

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Speaker 1: It from the outset.

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Speaker 2: It just worked.

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Speaker 4: I had worked on a team show with mister T

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Speaker 4: That was different on that show. It always seemed to

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Speaker 4: be a bit about one upmanship. And that's why I

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Speaker 4: learned a lot of stuff about chemistry. There's good chemistry

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Speaker 4: doesn't actually like you and you irritate them constantly.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the chemistry. And with mister T. But

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Speaker 2: But people used to love it. They used to love that.

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Speaker 3: Where you've got this mo from? Because you do it

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Speaker 3: with me, I don't do it. You deliberately do the ras.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The problem though, we're doing a show with journalists is.

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Speaker 2: They deal with facts.

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Speaker 3: What a mistake?

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Speaker 4: And they constant deal with facts and I don't care

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Speaker 4: about facts. I like building an entertainment fire. Whenever I

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Speaker 3: But a journalist entertainment fire, entertainment fire.

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Speaker 4: You got your kin ling sticks and you want someone

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Speaker 4: that's got a bit to go with a journo, they'll

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed they do that? People just go Okay,

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Speaker 2: you sound like you get a bit loose. I love

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Speaker 3: But you're normally that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you make other people's finers tight and

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Speaker 4: I can't see myself censuring myself. But having said that,

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Speaker 4: it out. Do you remember that first show no at

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Speaker 4: Triple A.

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Speaker 3: I remember the occasion. I remember what we spoke about.

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Speaker 3: It was great, it was Do you remember because you

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Speaker 3: came in the next day as well, and early in

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Speaker 3: the morning you came in chat chat chat, and I

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Speaker 3: said Brendan this is this is quite reading time. It's

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Speaker 4: After the show, there was plenty of backslapping and comments

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Speaker 3: It was the only one saying it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you had to pull out your carts for

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Speaker 2: To have all the records.

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Speaker 4: you had to press a button and it had to

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Speaker 4: be tight and no dead air.

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Speaker 2: These days you.

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Speaker 4: Don't have to worry about that stuff. So for me,

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Speaker 4: I was there for the changing of that guard. When

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Speaker 4: Ronnie Sparks and Stuart Cranny and Club Veg.

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Speaker 2: Those guys were like they.

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Speaker 1: Were living the dream and to work.

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Speaker 4: With those guys was like whoa, you know. But you

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Speaker 4: could also see the winds of change. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: just talking about the Scorpions. It was happening everywhere. I

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Speaker 4: you know, destiny had thrown us together. I never felt

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Speaker 3: Remember this. The minute Jonesy saw me, he collapsed in laughter.

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Speaker 3: Our big pet peeve, isn't it is when we say

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Speaker 1: Oh good, Now, make me a cup of tea.

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Speaker 3: You make me love.

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Speaker 1: Do we do we really appropriately?

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Speaker 1: Amanders Hi vodkast.

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Speaker 3: For more jointsy and demanded podcasts.

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Speaker 4: What did the kids say when they knew it was

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Speaker 3: Remember when I started