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Speaker 1: As we all know, the community was last week rocked

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Speaker 1: the Northern Suburbs. The news, it is safe to say,

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Speaker 1: sent shock waves and absolute sadness through the community. Declan

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Speaker 1: Lavity was just twenty years old. He lived with his dad,

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Speaker 1: Damien Crook, who called me on the show last Monday

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Speaker 1: to speak about his son, and that call, I think

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say, broke the hearts of Territorians who

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Speaker 1: wanted to wrap their arms around his dad, Damien and

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Speaker 1: well all of Declan's family at the time of absolute despair.

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Speaker 1: Now Damien joins me in the studio right now. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Damien Hilke. Can I just say what a beautiful shirt

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Speaker 1: you've got on their pink flamingos. If I'd have known

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Speaker 1: that was the dress code, I'd have found something similar.

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Speaker 2: Declinely Loads is my favorite place for silly shirts like this.

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Speaker 2: I've got a war drack full of them, and Declan

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Speaker 2: would love love this shit. And I stand out like dogs,

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Speaker 2: you know what, but I love it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It looks fantastic, mate. I can't even imagine how you

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Speaker 1: must feel over the last week. Your life has changed

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Speaker 1: entirely over seven days. You know, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: it on the weekend as I saw you on the

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Speaker 1: and have gone through what you've gone through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well I wasn't very early because start work at six

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, so yeah, that's exactly right. But look,

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Speaker 2: it is what it is. I just don't want anyone

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Speaker 2: else to go through this. So if anything, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we changed, that's fine. But yeah, I've had a great,

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Speaker 2: great support from my friends and family and absolutely from

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Speaker 2: all of Australia and actually all around the world, but

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Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. You know, I just can't believe the outpouring

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Speaker 2: know the funny thing was was they said to me, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's fine.

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Speaker 3: You know, my mother's very free and I was wondering

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Speaker 2: But by the time I started shaking hands and hugging,

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Speaker 2: we got to the pack, everyone's gone. But saying that

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Speaker 2: that's because I wanted to stop and every single person

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Speaker 2: they're there to support me and Darwin and they need

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Speaker 2: a hug too.

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Speaker 1: Well, mate, I think that the whole of the Northern

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: That's the sense that I got on Monday, after you'd

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and to everyone out there. They have made a

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. And yes, I'm not a political person and

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Speaker 2: neither was Decline, but he would definitely want something to change. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was staunched in his views and if

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Speaker 2: You know, Like in the paper I said, it was

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the one to sit here and make decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, And I don't think that's too much

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've had people scared, yeah, to take their kids out.

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Speaker 2: and people should not feel like, Yeah, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: Made. I know that there was talk at the rally

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Speaker 1: and do you have any idea what it might look like?

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Speaker 2: Or well, there is from what I'm aware of obviously

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Speaker 3: And I mean the thing.

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Speaker 2: Is, I'm the type of person that I'm always fifty fifty,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't say that no one ever gets bail.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's not fair. No where do we sit

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Speaker 2: don't know. I feel the other laws of this for example,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going fishing or hunting and you

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Speaker 2: then there should be an extra extra charge on top.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's to me, that's pretty pretty green.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems it seems like common sense, doesn't it

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're walking around with a cricket

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Damian, I want to ask as well. I know

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 2: Well, on Friday Declan is having his his funeral in

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Speaker 2: it hasn't been exactly decided, but it's the second Friday

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Speaker 2: that I'm not quite sure to be honest, the main

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Speaker 3: You know, really it's not.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is there to celebrate Dick, and it's also

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Speaker 2: to come together and get day and back on track,

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Speaker 2: get you know, say hello.

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Speaker 3: To people that you haven't met before. That's what I want. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Up, Okay, there you go when if you guys want

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Speaker 2: would do. Yeah, And that's all. And if we can

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Speaker 2: do that, we can start getting dar and back on track. Yes,

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Speaker 2: everything else is to get involved. I understand that, but

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Speaker 2: I reckon, if we can just do that to start with,

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Speaker 1: Mate. I know that that we've been contacted by a

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Speaker 1: breaking my heart reading those messages out. I know that

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Speaker 2: The thing is, as I've been I've been to the

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Speaker 2: And I understand. And it's not like I said, it's

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, at the stage

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Speaker 2: I felt sorry, I said to their manager after sorry

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Speaker 3: It's the major staff cry. But you know, they they're there.

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Speaker 2: And someone said, you know, unfortunately it's done and we

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Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, they are really hurting. And look,

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Speaker 2: if they can get there, no problems at all. But

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Speaker 2: in my heart that if you're not there, you're not

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Speaker 2: because you're not there.

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Speaker 3: No, no way, mate?

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Speaker 1: How lock How how do you think that Decluan would

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Speaker 1: be feeling if he knew? I reckon he probably does,

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Speaker 1: But how do you reckon he be feeling knowing the

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Speaker 1: way that the community has rallied and really come together

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Speaker 1: since last week?

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks for that. It's maybe your here girl to be.

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Speaker 2: He would be absolutely astonished because he would say, it's

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Speaker 2: only me, what are you doing? He would be worried

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Speaker 2: because if the tables were turned and it was one

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Speaker 2: of his colleagues, oh my god, he would be a mess.

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Speaker 2: He would be a mess. His colleague is very unwell

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Speaker 2: at the moment just because of what's happened, So you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel for this guy. But definitely, yeah, he would be.

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Speaker 2: He'd be livid and he he would be. He would be.

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Speaker 2: He'd be at that rally for if it was someone

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Speaker 2: strongly as possible if he was still at work anyway,

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Speaker 2: because that's just who he was.

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Speaker 1: Mate, I can't thank you enough for coming on the

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Speaker 1: show this morning. I know I don't have any comprehension

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Speaker 1: of how hard the last week has been for you.

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Speaker 1: I certainly you know I've felt lost in my life before,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that it can ever get any

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Speaker 1: harder than the loss of losing your child. So I

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Speaker 1: admire your strength, I admire the resilience that you've shown

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Speaker 1: up and you know, really spoken to the community. But

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Speaker 1: our hearts go to you, to Declan's entire families, Mum,

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Speaker 1: everybody at this point in time, it's really it's a

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I really appreciate it really quickly. If it's okay.

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Speaker 2: I was want to thank you to everyone, everyone and down,

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Speaker 2: but also everyone who left things at BWS in the airport.

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Speaker 2: One particular thing is the rock that someone has left

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Speaker 2: if you've seen photos of it's beautiful and I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: To make this quick.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, you're right, So i'd like to know if you

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Speaker 2: know the person or the person is listening who has

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Speaker 2: engraved on the rock, if they could ring us for

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Speaker 2: you guys, I'd just like to talk to them because

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Speaker 2: I'd like to come more of them, because I think

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Speaker 2: that was absolutely everything. Sentiment was there was beautiful. That

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Speaker 2: touched me, you know, So that that's just a real

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Speaker 2: quick thing. Sorr Declan engraved with Decline on it and

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Speaker 2: also thanks for voting me territorying of the.

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Speaker 3: Week to like that I did.

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Speaker 2: I did, but I haven't got the keys yet, so

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit worried about when they're going to turn.

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Speaker 3: The city. Yeah, but to be honest, that should be

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Speaker 3: death to the terater in a week, not me.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to say before I go the voucher,

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Speaker 2: that the voucher, I'd like to know whether I can

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Speaker 2: donate that to someone in some family or someone doing

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Speaker 2: it hard times. Thank you and I love you guys,

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Speaker 2: and I'm really sorry for you guys as well, and

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Speaker 2: Katie and Crystal and everyone, everyone and the team.

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Speaker 1: Just thank you very much, Damian, thank you, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 1: We will stay in contact and talk to you again

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Speaker 1: very soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you,