1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: And leases. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: How does it make it in wa to bring the 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: sun and make your start? So continuing our series, sticking 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: with me or make your staff. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: The West is the place right now to be famous 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: and someone who has got themselves to just that position. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Lake Bovell is a TV and film unit manager. Hello Lake, 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: I like welcome, Hello, Hi, So Lake, what is a 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: unit manager? 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Well, a unit manager is the person that manages the 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: unit for a film and TV production. And a unit 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: is so there's all the trucks, like the mini village 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: that travels alongside set. We've got the costume truck, the 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: hair and makeup trucks, the generator whout power water, the 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: catering area, the supplier truck, the green rooms. All of 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: that is called a unit and that travels alongside set 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: to service the set. So it's a place where everyone 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: can rest off, get their food, snacks, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: we sort of look after the crew and cast and yeah, 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: so I take care of all of that stuff with 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the team. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: Of course, I would say there would be because there's 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: a bigger responsibility. 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: It's quite the wrangling, right, yes, yeah, it is, Yeah, 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: quite a big footprint. It changes every day where we are, 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: the locations like the park up, the ground that we're on, 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: the trees over here. We have to consider all of 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: this stuff when we choose the location for the unit, 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: and then the councils that we're in and all of 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: those like logistical things. Yeah, that's in my brain. 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I betcha yeah, like you said, even changing. 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: So how did you get into this kind of work? 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: I have been doing festivals and events for probably fifteen years, 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: and I then sort of dipped my toe into the 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: comedy world and have done a lot of stage managing 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. And a few years ago, Sasha Baron Cohen 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: was in Perth. I don't know if you guys heard 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, so yeah, he was sent over here 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: and by his Sydney team and because they couldn't travel 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: over and they're like, who do we know in Perth 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: that could deal with this, Let's send him to Lake. 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I did some stuff with him, like produced 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: and managed and coordinated everything for him that was happening 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: in Perth. And through that we were doing some live 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: stage shows and we had to do some filming so 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: you could change costumes between his characters between Alergy and 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: Bora and so I met some film people through that 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: we hired them to do the little interstitials and then yeah, 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: they called me us probably four months later and we're like, hey, 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: COVID's happening and we need someone to be a COVID coordinator. 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: No one's done this job in wa before, but we 52 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: reckon you could do it. So I was invited in 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: as a COVID coordinator right and then my now colleague 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: slash Mentor Mike Montague, who is the old school unit 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: manager of Western Australia, it was like, with all your skills, 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: why aren't you in unit? And I was like, what's unit? 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: And yeah? Then I just I was on the next 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: job with him and it's my dream job I did 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: not existed, and I love every second of it. 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like coordinate is the key word, because 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: it sounds like if you don't have everything coordinated and 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: ready to go when the cast and so on get there, 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 3: the whole thing's going to fall over. 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. We like the glue of the operation really, Like 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: obviously it's a team that's a production office suit and 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: their first day DS and everyone does scheduling. Everyone's integral 67 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: to the operation. It's amazing, how like well oiled the 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: machine is. So I'm just one little part of it. Yeah. Yeah, 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: it's sort of like setting up a festival every day 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: and then packing down a festival and moving to another 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: location doing the same thing. Yeah, love communication, coordination being Yeah, 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: so what would an. 73 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: Average workday be like, I guess. 74 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah. We usually if we're moving locations, we'll start 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: maybe three hours before step on, which is when the 76 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: costume and make up people arrive to prepare for the 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: past when they arrive, so we'll drive the trucks to 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: a new location, set up everything. Very physical work. A 79 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: lot of planning goes into it before we actually land 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: at the location. And then yeah, so get everything ready. 81 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Everyone arrives, and that's sort of when we can sort 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: of take a breath, and then lunch, breakfast happens, and 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: then lunch and then everyone goes to set and then 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: lunch and then yeah, the last sort of three or 85 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: four hours of the day filming, and then we start 86 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: to pack down and get everything ready to move to 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: the next location. So the days are often maybe twelve hours. 88 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: Last out parallels with the music industry, you know, with 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: a whole circus moving from place to place. 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 91 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's just part of the job dealing with talent. 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: But what about egotistical talent or cast members that say, 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: there's the acusing and their trailers not they can't find it. 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: What do you do? You know, I haven't come across 95 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: that at all. Right, In w A, it's like everyone 96 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: we all work together. Usually there's a few crew members 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: that come in from Sydney and a lot of actors 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: come from all over Australia. But in w A the 99 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: industry is so small and so nice, like if you're 100 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: a jerk, you just don't get hired again. Yeah, it's 101 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: actually amazing. I haven't come across anyone that I that 102 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: in life. 103 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: The industry is getting bigger though, by the by the moment. 104 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: What are some of the projects that you've worked on recently. 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: I've just come off Scrubland season two and now I'm 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that should 107 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: be good. Yep, yeah she is, yep, yeah she is brilliant. 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: And now we are on to the twelve season three. 109 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh oh yes, that's here as well. 110 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Seems so quick, doesn't you just finished watching the second one? 111 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well it takes six to eight months 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: to come out. We fi. Yeah, at the same time. 113 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: You know, like it's it's sort of York really was 114 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: the catalyst that got us talking about this and how 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: w Way is becoming such an attractive place to film 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: in because York. I think it was Craig Sylvie, you know, 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: the author of RUD. He described it as seamlessly cinematic. 118 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's stunning. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, with all 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: the I guess this season's changing as well. You get 120 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of variety out there, and it's so close 121 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: to Perth that yeah, there's just a lot of benefits 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: for filming regionally close by the Perth. 123 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Yep. 124 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: You talk about the importance of your job and you 125 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: were saying, oh, you just a small part of it, 126 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: but you're a bit like you know, I've been working 127 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: with directors like Stevie Kruz Martin. I mean you're so 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: integral to everything going right, aren't you. 129 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Stevie. Yeah, yeah, it's just yeah, I 130 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: don't know how to describe it. Our job so multifaceted. Yeah, 131 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: it's all about communication, really, making sure everyone's on the 132 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: same page. Yeah. I pat the. 133 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: Detail, the fact that you said, I've just come off 134 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: working on Scrublands and now we're onto the twelve. Season 135 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: three speaks to obviously both your value in the industry 136 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: as in charge of the unit, but also it speaks 137 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: to just how much is happening here. What is your 138 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: advice for anyone who wants to get into the industry. 139 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: It's keep yourself available out there, talking to people. A 140 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of it for you know, but you get to 141 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: know the people by doing the study and being in 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: the right courses and being in the right workshops that 143 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: are constantly available. So yeah, it's just talking to people, 144 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: really having the passion, looking, looking for your own opportunities, 145 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, being a nice person to help you. 146 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: That is advice for life, absolute whatever you're doing. 147 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: Like, we now know what a unit manager is. But 148 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: we were talking yesterday a lot of filmmaking jargon and 149 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: running through gathers and dollies and groups. 150 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: But what the hell is the best boy? 151 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Our best boy is old language to I see, so. 152 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I'm best credits anymore. 153 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting phrased down. 154 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: Doesn't to I see? Well, Lake, give my love to 155 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: Sam Neil. 156 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: That's going to work for you and thanks so much 157 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: for joining us to talk about what you do and 158 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: how you got into it, Thinking, interacting you too,