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Speaker 1: Welcome to them, Christian no Common Show podcast, say hello

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Speaker 1: to our special guest who's come in today. He's not

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Speaker 1: plugging anything. He just responded to an invitation a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago when I was saying how much I

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Speaker 1: love Paul Kelly and how to Make Gravy and he's

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Speaker 1: going to be singing for us. But first of all,

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Speaker 1: Paul Kelly, thank you very much for coming in on

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Speaker 1: the show today.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure. Christian's good to be here, so Paul.

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Speaker 1: For many years before I moved here to Australia on

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Speaker 1: the twenty first December, I used to love playing How

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Speaker 1: to Make Gravy and not many people knew about the song,

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Speaker 1: but I would always get a very big reaction in

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Speaker 1: the UK. Want to know who this song was by?

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Speaker 1: Because it's a beautiful and a rare, contemporary, good new

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Speaker 1: Christmas song. I'm dying to know was a song not

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Speaker 1: that hard to write because there's been so many Christmas songs?

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Speaker 1: How do you come up with an original angle?

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Speaker 2: I guess the thinking about it for a little while

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Speaker 2: that was probably more the hard part. I remember thinking, oh,

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Speaker 2: hell the hell am I going to write a Christmas song? This?

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Speaker 2: There's how many out there, and I thought, what's the

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Speaker 2: best way to write about the feeling of Christmas? And

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Speaker 2: my next thought was, well, maybe the best way to

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Speaker 2: write about the feeling of Christmas is to write from

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Speaker 2: the point of view of someone who can't be there

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Speaker 2: for Christmas. And as soon as I had that thought,

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know that, the next one was, well,

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Speaker 2: why can't they be there? And I thought, ah, they're

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Speaker 2: in prison. Once that was that was like the key,

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Speaker 2: and then the rest of the song sort of wrote

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Speaker 2: itself from there. I realized. I realized afterwards, you know,

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Speaker 2: that was sort of the most popular Christmas song of

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Speaker 2: all time. White Christmas is the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a yearning and long and isn't it. It's that

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Speaker 1: ache of the heart that feels not just the people

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Speaker 1: that are there, but also feels equally the absence of

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Speaker 1: those that aren't there, and it's so powerful.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would be a widely popular song

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Speaker 2: because I thought, well, it doesn't have a chorus, it's

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Speaker 2: set in prison. You know, nothing repeats, So I just

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Speaker 2: sort of I thought, I thought, this is I like

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Speaker 2: this song, but I didn't think it'd be like massively popular.

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Speaker 1: It's also very uniquely Australian Christmas song because queens ain't

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Speaker 1: gets mentioned in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also being hot on Christmas Day. So a

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Speaker 2: lot of this song is about the phrasing more than

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Speaker 2: the rhyming. I think it's more I listened to a

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Speaker 2: lot of hip hop.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see a collaboration with you and M

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Speaker 1: and M in the next couple of years, next Grand

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Speaker 1: Final playing that a unique collaboration, very unique comedy of

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Speaker 1: p K and eminem live at the sp That could

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Speaker 1: be the next album.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did that understand? That's that's That's an incredible though.

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Speaker 1: How much do you know about the movie? Then? I'm

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Speaker 1: reading a couple of weeks ago about how to make

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Speaker 1: Gravy is going to be a movie?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know a little bit about it. I've been

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Speaker 2: pretty much sort of hands off, but they finished shooting

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Speaker 2: so that I haven't seen any anything of it.

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Speaker 1: But is there a cameo? Do you get you could

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Speaker 1: be a very menacing prisoner. Now I'm not one of

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Speaker 1: the life is.

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Speaker 2: Or something you know in there? Well Briggs is playing

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Speaker 2: one of the screws, one of the guards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it should have been you, Ambriggs. Would have

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Speaker 1: been fun and so what happens? What is Christmas for you? Then?

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Speaker 1: Because obviously you're part of a big family. What do

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Speaker 1: you got eight brothers or sisters?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's eight of us. It's sort of roughly scattered

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Speaker 2: between queens and then Victoria, I guess our main event

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Speaker 2: these days we have Christmas Eve where we get together

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Speaker 2: and stumble the way through some carols.

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Speaker 1: What a great thing to do. So you'll sing together,

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Speaker 1: What a great thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Mary, my sister made the song. She she plays piano,

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Speaker 2: and my nephew down and I stumbled along with the guitars.

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Speaker 2: Everyone brings a plate.

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Speaker 1: Well does this sound as much as a Carol's bint?

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Speaker 1: Candlight is great? This is what we should be watching.

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Speaker 1: You should be streaming this live from Paul's. I paid

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Speaker 1: to watch that. I bet that's great fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to miss it this year because I'm

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Speaker 2: doing Carols by candle like.

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Speaker 1: You double booked and double book this year.

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Speaker 2: I have to tell the family story.

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Speaker 1: Your poor family. The way is Paul, he's got a

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Speaker 1: big gig tonight, he's working tonight. It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do how to make gravy and grow

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Speaker 2: in Silent Night, which is putting my beautiful favorite Carol.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gorgeous him and all kind of. It's a beautiful

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Speaker 1: song actually as well, isn't it so, Paul, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, have a lovely Christmas. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You have a great Christmas yourself too. Thanks Christian well,

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