WEBVTT - Flex & Froomes Play REFLEX  Conversation Card Game 🃏 🎲

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Flex and Frome on Kita. Contrary to popular belief, the

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<v Speaker 3>Flex and Frooms show was not the first time through

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<v Speaker 3>me and I have joined forces Scizzard.

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<v Speaker 2>As she's motioning, right, I mean that, what did you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty, For those of you who don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I own a conversation card game company. It's called Reflex,

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<v Speaker 3>and I reached out to miss Frumini and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to make some expansion packs.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to make your own card game?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say the honor and the privilege to

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<v Speaker 1>be held in the same esteem as Bobo, Yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>previous podcast hosts, Yeah and joy Ride. Joy Ride one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite Sydney cre icon icon. Don't use that

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<v Speaker 1>term loosely or lightly. No, you really don't we mean that,

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<v Speaker 1>but for me did say yes. And so she made

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation card game. And bring it up though is

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody messaged me a couple weeks ago and said, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you not know I Frumy was a Simpsons person?

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<v Speaker 1>She fully has a Simpsons question in the deck. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>having one Simpson's oriented question, does not make one a

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson's person Let's get that straight in the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't even go there, but I thought, let's play

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<v Speaker 1>said game. Let's answer the Simpson question on air. And

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<v Speaker 1>by let I mean you just answer it.

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<v Speaker 2>You had asked, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the question?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Simpsons character, who would you be? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>answer it, please, Lisa Simpson.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that by vibe or that's an accurate observation anyone

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<v Speaker 3>would make.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely vibe, it's an internal vibe. I love that Maggie

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the family, and yet she's on in

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<v Speaker 1>her own little world. She's got quite a cheeky streak

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<v Speaker 1>and from I know, snatched snatched mullet, and she just

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<v Speaker 1>whenever she grows up, she's like the president or she's

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<v Speaker 1>some really cool job. They grow up in the yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like they have like flash forwards, got it, but they

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<v Speaker 1>never get older than eight.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I did do some research and based on my personality type,

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<v Speaker 3>i'd apparently be Bart, which I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you have major Bart vibes about you, which means.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a Bart.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh don't you know what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>But is that tongue backed.

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<v Speaker 1>Bart has short, spiky hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know what he looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's yellow, he is pissy, he's culturally ambiguous. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>what they are from Springfield. But is mischievous, naughty, always

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<v Speaker 1>into tention, has a sweet streak, continually pissing off Homer.

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<v Speaker 1>So quite a contrary. And I'd say, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know I only became cheeky with age, though, like I

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<v Speaker 3>became more of like a mischievous person with age. You

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<v Speaker 3>are sweeter as a child, for sure, shy, I think so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>not like shy, reserved, really reserved, keep to myself, don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to like draw too much attention. I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>stopped at sixteen, but changed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought I think it was like a self

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<v Speaker 3>important thing. I'm like, I think that what I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>is far more valuable than what I'm hearing, so I

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<v Speaker 3>should contribute.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard what you've had to say. I'm sat quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon I was the opposite that Alas. Flex has

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<v Speaker 1>in her hands a conversation card deck that we collaborated

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<v Speaker 1>on in twenty twenty. You can actually still buy it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Flex website Flex Factory. We're going to answer

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<v Speaker 1>some of the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the crumbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there crumbs in there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Look it's like glistening, It's like chicken schnitzel of juice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick. I'm sick. I'm sick. I'm sick.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's answer the question. Do you just dicuss your

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<v Speaker 3>sexual partner's genitals with your friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't either, would not do not so wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that time in the interne where I spoke about

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<v Speaker 3>sex really freely because I'm like, why.

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<v Speaker 2>You bitch just don't talk about this? No, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I think like somewhere around bobon Flex.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember facilitating your own nuts?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I was like, some of you guys just need

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<v Speaker 3>to come respectfully on your own as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was at time on the Internet where the

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<v Speaker 3>conversations around dating were centered around the orgasm gap, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, why do heterosexual women participate in hookup culture if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not even getting a nut? What is that about?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, the conversation to me is

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<v Speaker 3>really frustrating because your personal experience is so centered around

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<v Speaker 3>what your partner will I won't do for you, and

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<v Speaker 3>so what agency do you have to like facilitate a

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<v Speaker 3>joint experience, because if there's one thing about rooting a

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<v Speaker 3>straight man, he's gonna get his.

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<v Speaker 2>Nut precisely, precisely.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, But then I was talking to a friend

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<v Speaker 3>the other day as well, and she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I was having this conversation with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, how did you go from like.

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<v Speaker 3>A casual conversation to like sexual tension and like rooting.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't even know this guy. And she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he asked me about my hidden folder. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's a hidden folder? Now? If you're real sheltered, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what's a hidden folder? So when I foun

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<v Speaker 3>out what a fins to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is this? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>She's like a hidden folder, like where you put all

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<v Speaker 3>like your nudes and other people's nudes. I'm like, other

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<v Speaker 3>people's what are.

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<v Speaker 2>You talking about other people's nuds?

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, you just keep it in there, and then

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<v Speaker 3>like only you know it's there, you can access it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. Anyway, our conservative energies, where were you in Barrah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, okay, ready for your next question, mister

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<v Speaker 3>A meaning yes, yes, your honor. Do you think it's

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<v Speaker 3>okay to steal from big supermarkets.

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<v Speaker 2>This.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wrote this in twenty twenty, didn't I? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kleptomania is a mental illness.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll stop it there. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you said all you need to say. Are we

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<v Speaker 3>all complicit in Crystal Lily's success? I love this question

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<v Speaker 3>I heard of its time. Honestly, Oh my god, because

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<v Speaker 3>the thing about not even cancel culture broadly, but when

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<v Speaker 3>people point to divert attention away, I'm like, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>tactic as old as time itself.

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<v Speaker 2>When people are pointing too much of the bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at you.

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<v Speaker 3>Extra because on most days, and I'm not an indifferent person,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel strongly about a few things, But on most

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<v Speaker 3>days I'm looking away from things. I see something I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like, I'm likes it is what it is. Said

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<v Speaker 3>something run me the wrong way?

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>People who are constantly you're hiding or you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>divert attentions. Now I'm looking extra close.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that often?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like it's a what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a scare tactic. I think it's a defense mechanism.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that people are just acutely aware of how

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<v Speaker 3>critical they are and how how much they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be exposed to the criticism of that degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he says, it's like when you like, when you

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<v Speaker 1>judge yourself, like when you don't like the way you look,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, that's when you look at other people in

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<v Speaker 1>that way you project the lens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so totally agree.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, someone like Chris lily Or when we

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<v Speaker 3>were having that conversation about like, you know, the backbone

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<v Speaker 3>of his career is by parodying people of color and minorities,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, but were you not laughing along like

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<v Speaker 3>you were consuming that content? So not only did you

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<v Speaker 3>platform it like you've invested in it. We're using the

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<v Speaker 3>words now, But that's do you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you, how do you not recognize that? And

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<v Speaker 3>then how at this very moment are you able to

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<v Speaker 3>detach from how you felt about it, what you thought

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<v Speaker 3>was humorous about it, and make it about this one

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<v Speaker 3>guy who, for all intents and purposes, we would not

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<v Speaker 3>know his name unless you all watched his show and.

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<v Speaker 2>Gave him fame. Would you know what I'm sad? Serious?

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<v Speaker 3>He would not we would not know what the name

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Lily meant. How we not have engaged in some capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of the philosophical theory called I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like presentism. I could be so wrong, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at things from the past from the

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<v Speaker 1>current lens.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, this is why I hate a bit. She's like

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight's not even good. Shut up, you weren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>You weren't there. I understand ten years ago she was fresh, unique,

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<v Speaker 2>never been seen.

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<v Speaker 3>We're discussing age relations like listening skin the CGI was

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of its time, like this guy was redefining the

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<v Speaker 3>alpha male archetype.

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<v Speaker 2>So no more, they weren't doing it like that on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's very I agree, there's definitely. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard because I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>there hard is in the right place when I think

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<v Speaker 1>like society changes and a lot of people get understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what is right and wrong, particularly in Australia. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're taught what we see on TV

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<v Speaker 1>as funny and not funny then changes what we think

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<v Speaker 1>is acceptable.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, that's with anything though, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the vibe goes okay, It's one thing to make an assessment,

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<v Speaker 3>a moral core, a judgment call, preference call, but it

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<v Speaker 3>gets punitive really quickly. It gets like this person needs

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<v Speaker 3>punishment too quickly for my liking, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the punishment often doesn't fit the crime.

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<v Speaker 2>With social commentary, this thing was.

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<v Speaker 4>On the ABC literally, but like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>for the masses, it was just a different like we

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, but it's the reconciling that people don't do. Like

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<v Speaker 3>two things can be true. You can say like now

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<v Speaker 3>like damn, like I don't know what we were thinking then, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not right.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, but it all dubbed it into like this one

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<v Speaker 3>guy and he managed to brainwash all of us and said.

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<v Speaker 2>Be serious, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Revisionist theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>The last question, which is probably why I don't do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of online discourse.

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<v Speaker 1>These don't put it on me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's because the conversation doesn't move quickly enough

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<v Speaker 3>to a resolution. What's your opinion on filming people in

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<v Speaker 3>public without their consent? We're still talking about it now

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<v Speaker 3>and it's still not clear. Probably even it's gotten worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say now if I see someone film anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a massive, massive red flag, massive red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot explain how much of a red flag it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not because I'm paranoid about people filming me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been filmed. We've all been filmed. I know

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<v Speaker 1>how exposing it is. It's never it's never nice. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't think of a single person that I've seen exposed

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<v Speaker 1>on someone else's Instagram that I thought, yeah, they would

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<v Speaker 1>love that. This complete like this whole community of strange

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't know. I'm making an assessment on something

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<v Speaker 1>they did that is usually unacceptable in that community, or

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<v Speaker 1>we or annoying, or you're drunk, or you have a

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness. Like it's always something that's out of the ordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>never in a good way. So and again it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's something that we've learnt why it's wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, like since having the Internet, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think like Brown Cardigan, for example, all that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that was very normal. I love that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shit up until maybe like three years ago that I

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<v Speaker 1>did I actually start thinking, oh, like I wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>that made people feel. Now that we hear these stories

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<v Speaker 1>that people who for example, have gone viral. Then we think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, people actually like can actually affect someone. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't just think of them like that is them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not this moment in time that they're removed from. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually them. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Can't get into it right now, But thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>sharing you With'slex Frooms Love you.

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