1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for being here today. It's me Art Simone, 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: and yes, I do love the limelight. It looks so 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: good on me, but I'm actually so generous and I'm 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: sharing my limelight with other let's just say, not as 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: glamorous people. Oh. I know they may be a bit drab, 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: but trust me, it's worth sticking around for because they're 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: concealing something from us. I don't know what it is, 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: but I promise it'll be good. This is concealed with 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Art Simone. Hello. 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: My name is Cassidy La Crem. I am a DJ, 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: a speaker, a woman of a few different talents, but 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: I am concealing a whole other side of myself that 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: you'll only know depending on where I am in the world. 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Hello, Cassidy, how are you Hello? Oh we have to 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: come clean. I know exactly who you are, cassid La Crem. Yes, 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: oh hello, I know. I wanted to play along, and 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to pretend that I've never seen you before 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: in my life. But I can't lie. 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: I can't live in this face. 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Once a couple of times, very excited to have you 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: sitting in front of me than you We're very Marilyn 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: today aren't we we are. 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: That may play a little bit into what we're It 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: could be a. 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Little beautiful red sequin head to toe and I mean 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: head to toe. We've got a beautiful pillbox hat on, 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: beautiful Marilyn esque blonde hair, very very nice, vintage, a 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: red glitter lip, and more jewelry than me today, which 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: is saying something you out did me. So we have 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: got a necklace, we've got bracelets, we've got rings, we've 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: got more jewels. And so you're a DJ. What's favorite song? 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: Oh, we like to party the you know, you put 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: me on. 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: My spot Of all the songs in the world, I 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: don't know. 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: The vibes are high. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: Today was extremely Marilyn. 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: See, I told you a multifact. 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things to you. Okay, and 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: did a speaker? What's your favorite word? 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Super color, fragilistic, exper Okay, I won't get you to 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: spell it because please don't, no, please don't. 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Okay, time for that now. I'm not going to reveal 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: how we know each other just yet, because I feel 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: like I know a lot about you. We've known each 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: other for many years, but maybe you're hiding something that 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know. Maybe I so to find out. 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you three questions, and from the 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: answers to those three questions, we have to work out 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: what it is you're concealing from us here today. Are 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: you ready? 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: I'm ready? 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, Cassidy la crem. The first question 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: I have for you is what is a sound you love? 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: Can you gaga sound? 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: A round of applause. 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Around applause. 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: I know you like those two? 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, you know, like they say, drag queens are 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: like tinker Bell. If you don't get applause, we die. 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: That is very true. 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there have been a lot of drag queen 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: deathes of recent Now. Question number two, who would play 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: you in a film? Oh? 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: Hillary Duff in a twisted version of the Lizzie McGuire. 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, sing po? And question number three, what's something 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: you did as a kid that you still like doing? Now? 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh? 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: Can I say? Playing dress? 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Dress up? Okay? I wouldn't get that from you now, 73 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: quite a surprise, the subtlety so dress ups dying drag 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: queen applause, Hillary Duff, DJ Vinger busy all right, Okay, 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm rounding about Okay, glitzy lamb dressing up. 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: I'll give you a riddle and see if you can 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: get it turned the tables back on you. 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: When we first met, I was a vixen who performed 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: for veterans, also known as Marilyn Monroe. But now I 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: have graduated into performing for royalty, and instead of a 82 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: double M, I'm now known somewhere as something triple M. 83 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: But it's the most beautifully written. It's very clever. Yeah, 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: it's very clear. Okay, triple M, vixen, veterans, Marilyn applause. 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: And where I am in the woods. 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Lizzie McGuire, Hillary, all the good. 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: Things, very gay? 88 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: All right? Should we put them out of their misery? 89 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Should we tell them what you're concealing from us? 90 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: Here today, Triple M stands for Marilyn Monroe Malaysia. 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: For those of you playing at home, I have a 92 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: little Malaysian flag I had hiding in the back of 93 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: my dress, never. 94 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Had again in front of me. Marilyn Monroe, Malaysia. What 95 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: is this? Hold up? Hold up? What do you want about? 96 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: I am known in Malaysia as a famous pop star 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: for singing in Malay and speaking in Malay, but I 98 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: also sing in eight languages, So. 99 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: You are an ultimate cunning linguist. You know all the 100 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: dialects and your bloody famous. You are the ultimate Handna Montana. 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: I am because I can go around Melbourne and one 102 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: knows who I am. 103 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: How did it all begin? 104 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: It began as a day I was working and living 105 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: in Singapore as Marilyn Monroe Universal Studios, and I wasn't 106 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: allowed to sing, so I started like singing with bands 107 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: outside of work, and a lot of those people were Malay, 108 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: so I didn't speak Malay, but they dared me to 109 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: sing in Malay, yes, and just mimic the language. And 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: because no one had else had ever done it before, and. 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: It was the early days of YouTube. 112 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: Yes, we just made a video of me singing in 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: their language and it went viral overnight. It was just 114 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: this crazy thing from being like no one to the 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: next day like people. Literally the next day a taxi 116 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: driver stopped in the middle of the road and yelled at. 117 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: And was like, Cassidy, I love your videos, and I 118 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: was like. 119 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: What's happening? 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: And yeah, got nominated for a music award for it, 121 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: and then it just like my life changed. 122 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: Wow, so then does everything pivot At that point, you go, right, 123 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: so I now have an audience. Something's happening. How do 124 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I go from being Maryland over here at Universal Studios 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: in do something with this? Because if you've always been 126 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: a singer, I've always been a performer. 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: I've always been a performer since I was a kid. 128 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: I was always a bit shy to sing. But it's funny, 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: like my life changed a little bit overnight because in 130 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: Singapore everyone started to know who I was. But I 131 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: still worked my job at Universal Studios and it took 132 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: me years to sort of get really well known in Malaysia. 133 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: After that, it would just like I just continued to 134 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: sort of make YouTube videos here and there, covering different songs, 135 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: learning Malay in the background. And yeah, eventually it's sort 136 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: of just added on top of it. 137 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: What was the thing that made you go, all right, 138 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a go. I'm going to 139 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: move over there. 140 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: It was crazy, actually, because I kept getting offered record 141 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: deals and management deals and things like that from like 142 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: good labels too, But I was only flying there and 143 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: nothing was really fitting, and I was getting really like, 144 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: at that point, I'd made my mind up. I wanted 145 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: to be like famous over there recording artist. But I 146 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: met at the Sydney Malaysian Festival, basically like let's call 147 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: him there, John Farnham, he was a very big artist 148 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: from there, had flown over to do this show, mister 149 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Amy Search, and I said to him, like, I really 150 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: want to move there. I just can't get the right label. 151 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: And he said, just move there, and I was like, 152 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: but I don't have any contacts, and he goes, just 153 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: go there and once you're there, it will happen, and 154 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: I was like, okay. Then, so I just left my 155 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: life and I think we were working together by the 156 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: time I just dropped everything and moved without a plan, 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: without a place to live, nothing. I just was like, 158 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: it'll fall into place, and within three weeks I was 159 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: signed to Warner Music Malaysia and like my dream other 160 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: record label, and then it all just like clicked into place. 161 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: As people heard I was in the country. 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: We worked a Draculas together, Yes we do. 163 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: That was my little vixen him. That was my floor. 164 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: Name, Draculas. It's going to sound negative, but I don't 165 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: mean it in that respect. But did you kind of 166 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: feel like a bit of a fraud at the beginning 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: because you'd sung in this language, and then I guess 168 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: some people make it would expect you to be completely 169 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: fluent in it, to begin with oh yeah, and you're like, no, 170 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: I can sing the song literally. 171 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: That was my entire life when I lived there. I 172 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: remember when I first moved to Malaysia. I moved there 173 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: with no plan, no contacts, nothing, and I was quite 174 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: well known at that stage. 175 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Whenever I'd fly over to do shows, like they would. 176 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: Fly me Able to sing for the Prime Minister and stuff, 177 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: and they put my it's so weird. I'd make a 178 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: YouTube video and then it did end up on the 179 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: news there, like me covering Frozen or something would be 180 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: actual like headline news. 181 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: You'd be like, what is happening? 182 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: But then people would assume you spoke the language, and 183 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: I still didn't speak it. So when I would get there, 184 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: i'd do an interview and I remember the worst national 185 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: news imagine going on Sunrise, but you don't speak English 186 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: and they think that you speak English, and because. 187 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: They're playing these clips off you singing these songs. 188 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: Exactly with the right emotion, and I'm just like mimicking 189 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: the sounds and the host comes in and just pops 190 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: his head in the back room and goes, do you 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? Like he said that in Malay 192 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: and I went yeah, and then he just left and 193 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: assume that meant. 194 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: I was fluent. 195 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: And then he spoke in the most formal Malay you've 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: ever heard, and I was just sitting there. You can 197 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: you can watch the interview on YouTube. I'm panicking because 198 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't know a single word he's saying, 199 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: and I'm just sitting there, like, and every time I'm 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: answering the question, you can see they're all looking at me, going, 201 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: she had no idea what we're talking about, and I'm like, yeah, 202 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: it happened all the time. And like the radio announcers 203 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: by the time I left Malaysia, they said, oh, it's funny. 204 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: You understand now we can tell because you can engage 205 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: in conversation. When you first came out here, you just 206 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: used to laugh at everything. 207 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: We'd say, my god, you kept creating these different videos. 208 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: Did you branch out to different languages at that point? 209 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: Not till I moved back. 210 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: Actually, just before I left Malaysia, I was doing a 211 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: lot of like brand events and things and I did 212 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: one for Remy martin Mulay and they wanted me to 213 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: sing in Chinese and I was like, sure, why not, 214 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: so I Atlanta sung in Mandarin later to find out 215 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: it was nothing like it. But then when COVID hit 216 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: and I had to move back to Australia really quickly, 217 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: then I started singing, Oh, I'm going to try a 218 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: song in Mandarin. 219 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: Okay, well I'll add one in Cantonese. 220 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: But for me, it's no words can describe the instant 221 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: connection it seems to build with people when they feel 222 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: recognized in what you're performing. 223 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: And in Malaysia there's three main. 224 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: Cultures, so it was like I developed this huge relationship 225 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: with the Malay culture in Malaysia, but then the Chinese 226 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: and the Indian cultures it was like they weren't represented. 227 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: So for me it became more about like the more 228 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: I understood that impact that it was having, I was like, oh, 229 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: but I want other people to feel like I've seen 230 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: them as well. And it's so strange, like I'll start 231 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: a performance not knowing anyone and they'll be like, there's 232 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: this chick that looks like Marilynosh's very of addressed, you know, 233 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: and then by the end of it, you're talking to 234 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: every single person in the audience because. 235 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: They're like, oh my god, a couple of you sang 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: in my language. So yeah, it's really fun. 237 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: It's like a superpower. Yes, it really seems like a superpower. 238 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: What's the culture shock? Like, I know you'd visited a 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: few times, but I mean you stand out wherever you go. 240 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: But that must be amplified to a billion over there, 241 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Like what is it like being little Cassidy Cassidy the 242 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: krem walking around in Malaysia? 243 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: You know, Oh, it's crazy, It's definitely crazy. I think 244 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: I probably didn't do it in the most intelligent way 245 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: because I moved alone, so I was always alone, so 246 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: it could be confronting at times, just being a female 247 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: traveler on your own. So that was like one side 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: of it. I wasn't expecting. But I thought it was 249 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: the blonde hair that people would recognize. So then I 250 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: tried like buying wigs and all that. 251 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Sort of stuff. I could lead the house without. 252 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: Anyone knowing me, and still the uber driver would be 253 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 2: like look in the mirror and they. 254 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: Go, hey, Cassidy, and you'd be like, oh. 255 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: God, you needed a body double at that stage with 256 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: a Victoria Beckham that sent like a random body double 257 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: in a car in front of her. I think she did. 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: That's the best coming up. Cassie tells us about her 259 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Royal encounters and I try to wrap in play. So 260 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: we're here with Malaysian popstar Cassidy La Creme. You are 261 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: a popster, you're signed. What is the scene like there? Like, 262 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: what the highs the lows? 263 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, it's different, it's very different. All obviously it's 264 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: a huge cultural difference, religious differences, but also the language barrier. 265 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: So I realized what was really hard for me is 266 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: because I was I think anyone who speaks two languages 267 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: can understand. In your native language, you can say so much, 268 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: you can be so expressive. But the biggest struggle for 269 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 2: me that made me feel really withdrawn from everyone is 270 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: that my Malay was never that great, So everything was 271 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: like Google Translate in my head, and people would laugh 272 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: at me when I tried to speak in Malay and 273 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, which you know, I don't 274 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: never took too seriously. But there was also like Malaysian 275 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: people can be very shy, so behind the scenes when 276 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: you'd go to events, like none of the other artists 277 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: wanted to sit at the same table as you, and 278 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: you'd always just feel like such an outcast, and everything 279 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: was always very surface level, and entertainment can be that 280 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: way anyway. But that was something that I realized after 281 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: I left that I was like, oh, okay, these are 282 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: the things that were I guess my struggles. 283 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: Guess. 284 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: So when you're really driven and you move overseas to 285 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: do something like that and you only think of the positives, 286 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: you don't actually anticipate a lot of the negatives, like 287 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: having no support system. After a year with my label, 288 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: things fell apart and they like dropped me by text message. 289 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: So the ultimate bad relationship right in a group WhatsApp. 290 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: They just said that, oh, we're going to terminate the 291 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: contract as of today or the best to you, yes, 292 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: And so I was absolutely devastating. And I had forty 293 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: eight hours to leave the country, yeah, because my visa 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: had run out. 295 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: And so tied to them at all. 296 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: So they I had been like lying saying they were 297 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: renewing my visa yes, And then when it was the 298 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: day that I, like the night before, i'd been like, 299 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: where's my past. I'd leave in two days otherwise, and 300 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: they were like hah bye, you know, just like dropped 301 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: me and I was like, oh my god. And so 302 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: then having to navigate that I had to leave the country, 303 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: I had, all these things happened, and then like after that, 304 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: it was like they basically made me unhirable. They like 305 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: didn't cancel any of my engagements but didn't tell me, 306 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: like they did a lot of really bad things. That's 307 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: just the way that, you know, the music industry can 308 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: work when it goes sour. But then I had to 309 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: like fight my way back into the industry, and it 310 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: took me another two years to sort of get to 311 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: like the. 312 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: Top of my game again. 313 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: And I was literally just like I'd just been an 314 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: actress in like basically the Malaysian underbelly. 315 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: And I was all like frigging ready to go. I 316 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: was like, I'm back, baby, I'm back. And then COVID 317 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: hit so. 318 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: But at least I got to, you know, find my 319 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: confidence again before I left. 320 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: But ultimately I. 321 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: Got to do all the coolest stuff, work with the 322 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: greatest people, like do really cool things like I got 323 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: to take my parents to the King's palace and all 324 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. So I mean it definitely balanced 325 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: out for a bit of loneliness. 326 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I was going to say, what would you 327 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: say was your biggest pinch me moment or experience while 328 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: you were over there? You went, how did I end 329 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: up here? Yeah? 330 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, the King's Palace was a funny one because I 331 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: didn't actually understand because of the translation where I was performing, 332 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: and it was the night before and I was getting 333 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: all these instructions on how to like wear my sash 334 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: the right way and how to bow, and I was like, 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And they were like, do 336 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: you know what you're performing tomorrow? I was like no, 337 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: and they were like, Istana Nagara is like the palace 338 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: of the country. And I was like, huh, what do 339 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: you get made? I was like, hey, mom and dad, 340 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: just we're meeting the king tomorrow. But for me, the 341 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: actual pinch me moment was the opera house because that 342 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: was one that I had said to my mum in 343 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: the car. We're drive by and I was like, I'm 344 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: going to perform there someday and she said in her 345 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: head she was like, yeah, sure you are, ye, yeah right, 346 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: and then I actually like two years later, she goes, 347 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: sure enough. Here I was driving to the upper House 348 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: and you were doing five nights. 349 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: There and so it was really cool. 350 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one that I was like, huh, 351 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: manifested that one. 352 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: What's it like building connections with people back home now 353 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: that you're back here, because this is a wild story. Yeah, 354 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: how do you how does that even come up? You know, like, oh, 355 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: by the way, oh yeah, I'm pretty well known in Malaysia. Weird. Yeah, yeah, 356 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: like ultimate Hannah Montana. It's literally, you know, secret superstar. 357 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I don't really. 358 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: I just don't talk about it really unless it's for 359 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: work purposes. But like you know, my friends, a lot 360 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: of my friends are the friends I had before I left, 361 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: so I didn't have to really form new ones in 362 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: the sense that it was like people sort of didn't 363 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: quite get it. I didn't have a dual life in 364 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: that way. I sort of just kept my few close friends. 365 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: I think that was the new thing for me, sort 366 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: of adjusting to being like, oh okay, now I work 367 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: at a winery and you know, it's just a different 368 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: headspace to be in and being like, oh my god, 369 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: all my dreams were just ripped away. Is that life 370 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: over now? I definitely went into like major depression, and 371 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: I sort of realized how unhealthy living away from all 372 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: of my family and everyone was for me. So I 373 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: sort of went through that like healing process of being like, 374 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I was actually really miserable. When I 375 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: was there, I had everything I thought I wanted. Yeah, 376 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: and then when I moved back, I realized, oh, that's 377 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: why none of it was making me happy because I'm 378 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: coming home to an empty house at night. So I'm 379 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: like performing at the King's palace or whatever it is. 380 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: That's a big opportunity. 381 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: And then I literally come home to an empty apartment 382 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: and I struggled to like find good friends over there. 383 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: That got me because of the difference. So yeah, coming 384 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: home was a big culture shock. But I will reverse 385 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: culture shock, I guess. But then at the same time, 386 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: it was like I got to learn that I was like, oh, cool, well, 387 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: moving away from my family is non option again, so 388 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have to like pivot. 389 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 390 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's good. It made my family be like, oh, 391 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: she loves you. 392 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Don't know what you got till it's gone exactly exactly. 393 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: So yeah, that was that was, I guess transformative in 394 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: a way that I didn't expect. 395 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: I love it. It's what's my favorite story about you? 396 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: That it doesn't define you at all, But it's such 397 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: an exciting thing to be like, Oh, let's catch it. 398 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: She's a famous in Malaysia. It's wild and like what, 399 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: it's so exciting, it's so like and a bit of 400 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: mystery to it as well. It's so heaven It really is. 401 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: It really is. 402 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: Like I remember I was doing a show recently. 403 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: I was doing an Adele show and the first person 404 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: to walk in and come and sit down he's so 405 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: supportive of me was the Malaysian Consulate, like. 406 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: Bought a ticket to come and see my show. 407 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: And I was like, how do I explain to people 408 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: that this incredible man is the consulate of Malaysia. 409 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this bit. Groups that shouldn't connect with 410 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: meet each other ever. 411 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're like, oh wait a minute, Yeah, 412 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: they're all intertwined. So I think it's been interesting to 413 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: try and navigate my path now that I've decided to 414 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: stay in Melbourne. 415 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: Yes, so you've you've come back to Melbourne. What what 416 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: is your day to day life now? What entertaining you doing? What? Performing? 417 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: I guess now I'm singing and DJing at the same time. 418 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: I've been doing that for like the AFLW and stuff 419 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: like that. 420 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: I have been starting my own women in business, women 421 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: empowerment business called the Fearless Entrepreneur, which is like a 422 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: new sort of speaking avenue for me. 423 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: And then yeah, a bit of everything, doing some writing. 424 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing some everything. Days never looked the same, that's 425 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: for sure. 426 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: And then a bit of like cabaret, quick change, whatever 427 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: it is. 428 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: I just like to mess it all together. 429 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this makes it fun exactly. 430 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: I always say I would love to be if, like say, 431 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Mel Robbins and Christina Aguilera had a baby Kindred Spirit. 432 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: I think it's only fair that you taught me a 433 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: line one of it from other songs? Maybe what was 434 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: the famous one that really kicked it off for you? 435 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: Oh, that'll be a hard one to teach you, I think. 436 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Perfect. 437 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: Can I teach you a rap line? 438 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay? 439 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll teach you a Malay rap line. 440 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 441 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: So the song is called have OC. You can say 442 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: have have OC, Yes, have OC, have up? 443 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: Have OC have Yeah? 444 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 3: That's it, that's it. 445 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: And then you say, can guager done? 446 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: Done? 447 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: Wait? 448 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: Can a da Sorry good, chuck up, cano, chuck up, goad, 449 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: chuck up. Yes, maybe I'll be. 450 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: Viral now you want to become a rapper. 451 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: I've put this on the socials and who knows, it 452 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: could go crazy. 453 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: I think it will. 454 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: We could be TikTok superstars. Yes, I'll just do that 455 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: one line over and over again. 456 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: That's all there is in the chorus. 457 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: So you're oh, so that was Cassie La Cram, a 458 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: real life Hannah Montanna, which I guess it's just like 459 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: the life of a drag wing. Really see the real 460 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: lifestyle for yourself. On the Socialism