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Speaker 1: The Wiggles acknowledge the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia

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Speaker 1: and their connections to land, see and community. We pay

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Speaker 1: our respects to elders, past, present and emerging.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wiggle Talk.

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Speaker 3: It is a podcast for parents. Hello Simo, Hello Locky Simo.

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Speaker 3: My name is Locky and I wear purple in the

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Speaker 3: Wiggles and today is a great day.

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Speaker 2: It is a great day. And Lockey, my name's Simon.

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Speaker 2: He Simo in the Wiggles, and I wear red and today,

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Speaker 2: I believe is also a great day.

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Speaker 3: It is because it's dear Wiggles.

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Speaker 2: It is deer whiels. And before we get into that, yes,

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Speaker 2: it was Lauren's fortieth birthday. Yes, I'm sure she doesn't

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Speaker 2: mind me saying that.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, happy birthday, Laws. And we had a great night.

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Speaker 2: We had lots of fun. And I don't like doing speeches,

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Speaker 2: you know, but you have to say something. And so

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Speaker 2: one of the Loz's friends m she spoke, which was lovely.

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Speaker 2: She said beautiful things. And then Ash was We kept

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Speaker 2: him awake, forced him with no he never wants to

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Speaker 2: sleep anyway, so it doesn't matter. But it was about

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Speaker 2: eight thirty and Asha was with The three of us

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Speaker 2: were up there, and I said a few words, and

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Speaker 2: I'd asked Asha during the week to describe his mum

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Speaker 2: was in words, and he said things like, you know,

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Speaker 2: she's funny, she's my best friend, she's kind, she's better

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Speaker 2: at fixing things around the house than dad. And then

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Speaker 2: he's so funny. Because he didn't want to speak, I

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Speaker 2: asked him if he wanted to say anything. He didn't

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Speaker 2: want to, and then he grabs the microphone and goes

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Speaker 2: and at finding things. Oh, it was just so good

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Speaker 2: that he felt confident enough in front of you sixty

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Speaker 2: seventy people, Yeah, to grab the microphone and then have

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Speaker 2: it actually have a chat.

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Speaker 3: Oh, how lovely.

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Speaker 2: He's brave than I am.

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Speaker 3: I heard it was a lovely speech you did. So

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Speaker 3: we weren't able to be there, but it was. It

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Speaker 3: was lovely watching. I got told, Oh, really we had

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Speaker 3: a really fun night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as she was dancing on the dance floor,

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Speaker 2: and then we stayed at the hotel there and so

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Speaker 2: then he can go up not on his own but

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Speaker 2: with someone looking.

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Speaker 3: Getting our buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really fun.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Are you a big party person like for yourself or

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Speaker 2: for I struggle with that.

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Speaker 3: I feel find that really uncomfortable. Forty wasn't our opportunity

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Speaker 3: to do that, but I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see I was just I didn't do it at

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Speaker 2: forty fifty either, But who knows. But I'm so glad

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Speaker 2: that we had the party. Yeah, because when you get older,

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Speaker 2: you very rarely get to spend time with your friends,

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Speaker 2: especially friends in all different areas of your life and family.

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Speaker 2: It's usually weddings, funerals or these milestones. True, And so

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that loads decided that she wanted to

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Speaker 2: have a party, because I would always are on the

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Speaker 2: side of that. No worry, I don't want the attention.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. It feels too hard, nerve wracking,

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Speaker 2: scared of all those I don't know why, why does it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know it is you don't want to make

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Speaker 2: And yeah, anyone if you're thinking about having a party,

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Speaker 2: and you can get all your friends together, and you

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Speaker 2: just doesn't happen that often anymore. The older you get

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Speaker 2: and you know your families and children, and it's hard.

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Speaker 2: So lucky yep, forty one. Yeah, well that's right. Well

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Speaker 2: Weigle Talk Talk Talk, Wigle Talk. It's Dear Wigle authorized

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Speaker 2: by Simon Locke.

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Speaker 3: Our dearest Wiggles. Every now and then, my five year

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Speaker 3: old does something so bold, so committed, and so deeply

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Speaker 3: embarrassing that I'm instantly thrown back into my own childhood.

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Speaker 3: I still remember putting on full dance recitals in the

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Speaker 3: Everyone would just sit there, smiling politely and clapping at

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Speaker 3: And yet when I see my own child doing something

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Speaker 3: Jents Confession time. What are your most cringe childhood memories?

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Speaker 2: It does take you back, doesn't it? Were you a

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Speaker 2: performance child? See? I wasn't at all. I didn't get

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Speaker 2: into singing and performance till late. I was way too

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Speaker 2: worthy things we can talk about, but I'd love to Well,

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Speaker 2: you were sort of get in front of the family,

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Speaker 2: and you know you always played piano and sang and.

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Speaker 3: Did you know it was more piano back then? Now

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Speaker 3: thinking my teacher held an end of year concert. But

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Speaker 3: that wasn't cringey. I was incredibly nervous at those concerts

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Speaker 3: because it was all the families of all the kids,

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Speaker 3: and you had to get up and play your piece.

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Speaker 3: You'd but I learned to enjoy that. But cringe worthy

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Speaker 3: it happened a lot older for Lockie.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 3: I just just then remembered one. I don't know why,

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Speaker 3: And why did I? I just this is I'm cringing now,

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Speaker 3: but I chose this is my song of choice? Makes sense?

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Speaker 3: I had Maraccas too. They're thinking about it. But I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have done the dance properly.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a mess a floor shirt? I probably did?

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Speaker 3: How awkward?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I am not the boy next you would have

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Speaker 3: No, that was before I had any kind of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I decided to join a ballet school when

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Speaker 2: Bett's School of Classical and Jazz. But myself and a friend,

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Speaker 2: well you could do that, we decided to. I went

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Speaker 2: I still played footy, I still do all that. And

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Speaker 2: then I decided I'd go and do some ballet classes.

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Speaker 2: did it for a couple of years, but I reckon.

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Speaker 3: So was this with a girlfriend or a guy friend?

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Speaker 2: No guy friend? We decided he didn't last. He dropped off,

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Speaker 3: You'd be the tallest in the class.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was hard to get a pair of tights

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Speaker 2: what they're called it anyway, But I just remember because

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a lot of skills, and my whole

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Speaker 2: That's all the dad thing was going on. And that

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Speaker 2: I have? I actually story, but I was nervous about

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Speaker 2: was good on your mate, I didn't care, And I

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Speaker 2: don't know why I felt.

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Speaker 3: To do musical music, theater and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Then I think, deep down I wanted to be an

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Speaker 2: down and that's what the motivation was. Well, if I

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Speaker 2: But I never actually thought I'd have the confidence to

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Speaker 2: do it all. Amazing, But yeah, that one day you

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Speaker 3: I just remember that too. Not this is not me,

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Speaker 3: little handicam. It must have been the start of my

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: He just was really good at copying. But we'd make

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Speaker 3: when I think back, I think I've said this on

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Speaker 3: the podcast before. But when I for Brandon his little

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Speaker 3: dressed in a black suit with a headset. Mike, I

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Speaker 3: I would know that is.

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Speaker 2: Is so cunny. He let me do it. It's funny

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Speaker 2: what you do, isn't it. I used to have a

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Speaker 2: Mickey mouse Watch? What Why did I have a Mickey

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Speaker 2: mouse Watch? I was older? Is it funny when you

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Speaker 2: think back? Yeah? This is look. I don't know this

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to tell the others. The others know

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Speaker 3: that what did ballet n nine?

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Speaker 2: What I did for for a few years, Well.

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Speaker 3: You can tell when you that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Now when these long legs get moving.

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Speaker 3: You do a single turn, You've got the arms and

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Speaker 3: what are those called the fast feet about?

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Speaker 2: Ye, that's a look I'm going to be thinking. I'll

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Speaker 2: be thinking of cringey things all day now.

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Speaker 3: Has becoming a dad made you more forgiving of your

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Speaker 3: embarrassing moments? Yeah? Hasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Oh? You do totally. And I think that's part of

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Speaker 2: the fun, the sillinesses you can you can have as

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Speaker 2: a parent. Asher is very silly and I kind of

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Speaker 2: feed off that, and we kind of already have fun together.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 3: Actually that last night we were at a gig and

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Speaker 3: Philip Coross was there from play School. But his first

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Speaker 3: comment when I saw him was that he'd watched the

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Speaker 3: recent series and he said, Lucky, Simon and yourself are

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Speaker 3: which has then come through and out. Yeah, we're probably

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Speaker 3: not even really that aware of it, but no, I

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Speaker 3: mean you've always been so funny and so silly, funny

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Speaker 3: in a great way. It's so fun to watch. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And yeah, I mean we can't

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Speaker 2: I can't Asher does it? And then I'm the can

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Speaker 3: Straight there I know where that was. Yeah, my happy birthday, Lass,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for that great question.

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Speaker 2: That was a good one. That was a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was.

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Speaker 2: my head, but anyway.

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