1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: It's that time, tax time. Jason Featherby's here from LEEU 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: and Wealth to help us. Hello, Hello, coming in, Thank 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: you for saving us from ourselves. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: It's that time of year, isn't it. It's like Christmas 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: for financial advisors. Absolutely, you've got that hard deadline. Everything's 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: got to be done by thirty June. So that's over. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: So what do we do next? 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? What is on the agenda? What's the first thing 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: to think of? Because in layman's terms, people just want 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: to get a few tips. 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the over arching thing when you go 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: to think about doing your tax return is to remember 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: three things yep. One, if you're going to put in 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: your tax return, you must have spent the money. Yes, 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: you can't make it up, so you must have spent 16 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: the money. You must it must be linked to your 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: work or the production of income. Okay, so it can't 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: be private expenses and things like that. So that's important 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: to remember. And the other thing that people do forget 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: from time to time or get confused about is that 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: if you've been reimbursed for you know, your mobile phone 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: or something, your work. 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason, should people do their own tax or should 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: they always? 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Perhaps? 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't in a fit and mine's very straightforward, 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: but I just you know, I get a form and 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm zoned out. 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: So it is easier than ever before to do your 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: own tax. If you're an employer and you've got not 31 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: a lot, a bit of interest and maybe a few shares, 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: you can probably get away with doing it yourself. 33 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Having grown up in an accounting business, though, I'm a 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: bit conflicted. I think having an accountant means it's just 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: another layer of protection, isn't it. So you've got someone 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: with another set of eyes over your stuff, and you 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: get a little bit longer to lodge your tax return 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: as well. So I'm a bit conflicted, but I'd always 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: get a good accountant. They're like anything, you know, it's 41 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: worth the money you pay for it. 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: It's a bit of insurance as well, because legislation and 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: things can change as well. 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: They do. It's changing again. Things change every year. They'll 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: change again today, tax rates payment all changed today. What 46 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: you can and can't claim all of that for you. 47 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: They they even get your group certificate for you, isn't there. 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 5: It's not the paper thing that you get anymore. 49 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: But I thought you had to kind of access. I 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: think it's right in the tax office. It goes straight 51 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: into your pre fill. That's called it the tax office 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: pre fill. And so if you're patient enough then and 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: you wait for late July early August, all your stuff 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: is going to be in your tax return, ready to 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: ready to add a few extra bits and press a button. 56 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: Away you go, So you can do it. 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: You good, Yeah you could if you were so inclined. Now, 58 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: what's the actual cracking down on this year? What should people? 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, the big thing, the three big things this year, 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: and they're usually the common things, so work related expenses, 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: working from home expenses, so you need to be very 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: careful with those. A lot of us now work from 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: home since COVID. 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: All all ways to try it on. 65 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: To try it on. Yeah, just remember those golden rules. 66 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: You must be work related, you must have spent the money. 67 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: So coffee machines, no, they're not tax it up. 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: To work, dog food for the companion is helping your 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: work productivity. 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: I think that's the stretch. But you do need so, 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: and you can claim, like certain kilometers you can claim 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: is it three hundred dollars? I think you can claim 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: without receipts to get fulled, so you might be able 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: to claim without receipts, but you still need to keep 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: records because if the ato comes to knocking, you can 76 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: have to prove that you did spend that money and 77 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: that it was legit. So, for example, you guys, you 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: drive here and you do your work and you drive home, 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: and so your job is here, so you would be 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: struggling to claim kilometers. You can't claim trips to and 81 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: from work. Even I can during the day coming here, 82 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: for example, because I come from home to your curricular 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: Yes private, it's to and from work not deductible. It's 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: a common mistake. 85 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: But if we go out to maybe an event, yeah, yeah, that's. 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: Then yeah you can, then you can. Yeah, but that'd 87 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: be a mine. I'm not telling you what you can 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: be pretty mine. 89 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: I'd say car related travel did make up the bulk 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: of work related expenses last year, which surprised me because 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: there are so many people working from home so much 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: there there are. 93 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people that actually don't 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: need their their car for their job, but there is 95 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: that this. You know, everyone thinks I can. I can 96 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: claim five thousand kilometers without proving it. The tax office 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: now more than ever. It's always been pretty good at 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: data matching, and it knows what sorts of jobs do 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: need to drive and it knows what don't. So you 100 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: need to be really careful with that. 101 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: And it knows you've filled out that book with three 102 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: different pens using book. 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: It looked like you did it over it. 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they had to do it for three months 105 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: in the last for five or seven years. Yeah yeah. 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: So the ATO you do need to keep you do? 107 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: They know that they can even use AI now to 108 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: know where you were. They can ask for oh my god, 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: I can ask for your calendar to prove that you 110 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: were where you were. You to scare people, but you 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: just it just needs to be legit and more than ever. 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: I heard the other day an account and telling me 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: about someone one of his accounts having a holiday house, 114 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: and the ATO says, well, we know you were there 115 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: on these dates, these days, these dates, and these dates 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: because we've got your metadata from your phone. Oh there 117 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: you go. I don't even know what pinged You've been 118 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: pined frightening that we know everything about it. They do, ye, 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: So don't don't try and be cleverer than that. 120 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: Okay, what about crypto currency. Not that everyone's delving into crypto, 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: but some rule changes, right, Yeah. 122 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand people did, and and there's. 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Been a good year. So there are some games in crypto, 124 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: And just because it is a digital currency doesn't mean 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 2: the tax offers doesn't know that you are making money 126 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: made a game, Yeah, made a gain. And a lot 127 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: of the more common platforms actually report straight to the 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: OHO as well. So you do need to be disclosing 129 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: your gains on crypto. And even if you swap from 130 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: bitcoin to e theorem for example, that's a transaction, right, 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: that's like selling p HP and buying rio, right, So 132 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: you do need to report that you can't get away with. 133 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: Can't away with much, can't get away with much any Yeah, 134 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of coverage of what we're doing. 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: We know where you are. I reckon. 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: This is one of those things though, that you know 137 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: in yourself. 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you reckon? I can? 139 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: No, you can't. 140 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: And if you have to ask, like you've just done, yes, 141 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: probably probably know. 142 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: If you get a little grid on your face when 143 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: you're thinking I wonder if I could, probably. 144 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: It's probably, you know, and you're really more than ever 145 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: now you just can't get away with it. The tax 146 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: office has so much going for it in terms of 147 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: getting in front of you and the pain and the 148 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: penalties and the. 149 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: Stress embarrassment as well. If you get nabbed and you 150 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: haven't got the receipts. 151 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: You've got them coming in once they're in, so they 152 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: might come and see you for I don't know, some 153 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: sort of a three hundred dollar deduction that you don't 154 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: have a receipt for. Once they're in your business, they 155 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: are in, and so they will then look at everything. Yep. 156 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: So you don't want to let the time. Don't give it. 157 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: They've got the time. It is their job, and you 158 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: don't want to give it. 159 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: And they love it. That's what you don't want to 160 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: What is it they say about wrestling with pigs? 161 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: But you get dirty and the picture do it very 162 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: carefully on that note, Actually, we're going to be opening 163 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 5: up the text line and the phones here, so can 164 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 5: I throw just very quickly before you go sunglasses if 165 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: I'm seeing it the red hot summer tour. 166 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: No, look at his face. Maybe sunscreens okay, sunscreen happen 167 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: in their No even you, even even if you've got 168 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: all dress code at work, which everyone does. That's not deductor. 169 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: You've got to be really, really careful. That's the overarching message. 170 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: The other one is, what were the two golden rules? 171 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: I don't lie. You don't lie. You have to spend 172 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: the money you. 173 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Have the worker, it's got to be work related. 174 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: Well done, LUSA, I'm not so well done. I'm glad 175 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: you did the test coming in