1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio is the Lord Mayor 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: of Darwin, convat Scalas. Good morning conn Oh sorry, con, 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: let me I always turn on the wrong microphone for you. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: I can hear good morning conn Con. It's been a 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: rough few days. I mean, the situation that's unfolded last 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: week in Nightcliff is nothing short of heartbreaking. I mean, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: we have spoken at length about the loss of Lynn 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Verge and just hearing them this morning or reading overnight 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: Joanne taking to social media to say that yesterday they 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: reopened their business to the community. They Bennett told us 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: yesterday they were reopening. The community has embraced them with 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: open arms and the love that they absolutely deserve. And 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: then they had a group of people try to steal 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: from them again yesterday. I don't know whether it makes 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: me upset or angry, to be honest with you, I 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: think it's a bit of column A and a bit 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: of columb I don't really know how to feel, O Katie. 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: This is, let me put that way, not a political 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: issue for me. For me, it's a personal issue. And 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: I say that one because I live in article for 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: twenty five years and most of these years, all of 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: these years I knew Lyndoln very well. It was one 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: of my preferred places to go shopping, not because it 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: was the cheapest place, but it was the friendliest place. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: And Linden made this friendliest place friendlier. Amazing. 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Man. 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: I remember having yan kies that wanted something. He went 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: out of the way to find it. The ringman tell 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: me it was in the shop for me to go 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 2: and do it. It makes me disappoint makes very angry 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: to hear that news from Joanne, and Joanne, my commiserations 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: to you and your mom and your brothers is to 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: have never happened. I'm very angry about it. I'm not 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: the only one angry. There are a lot of people 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: angry out there from all walks of life. I read 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: the press list by the Larakir Nation and Michael, you 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head. It needs to something 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: to be done. And where all this aboriginal organization that 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: it was the other way jumping up and down. I 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: didn't hear a word about it. We have to get 41 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: together and we have to actually stop this thing happening. 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: Probably would exactly say, well, if you don't have accommodation 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: down when you can't stay in Darwin come here, do 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: your job and play. Go back where you came from. 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: The other thing, of course, is now that will bring 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: Linton back. He's gone, and he's gone because of a 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: stupid idiot, and but the stupidity of the system, because 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: the system has to answer while that person was still 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: here in Darwin, that when he was on bail, when 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: he had so many offenses under his name, and he 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: was supposed to be somewhere else. It's the answers that myself, 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: yourself and the people out there want. The other thing, 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: of course, is we've been promised for a long time. 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: Police on the streets, I haven't seen anyone yet. I 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: know you're going to ask me what I think about 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: the police station Backcliff. I think it's a glorified building 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: with a police station title on it and nothing more. 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: It's offices, let's put that way. It's not a police 59 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: station like the Cashorina one on the one here in 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: the middle of the city. It's just a glorifier office space. 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: And I think somebody said to the first book, Leah, 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: were elected you to fight crime, la and order. You've 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: got our support. Going to something about it, and I 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: think she will. She has to if she doesn't, then 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: she will have trouble. 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting con like when you go through 67 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: some of the legislation as well, and I've been through 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: quite a bit of it over the recent days, and 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: you know, you look at some of that legislation, which 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I've no doubt when it was implemented, was well intentioned, 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: but there seems to be a real focus on those 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: that offend rather than a real focus on those that 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: are victims of crime. I feel like the pendulum has 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: swung a little bit too far the other way, and 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: it needs to go back to where it should be, 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: which is focusing on victims and ensuring the community safe. 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: This is what I see happening, not only in the territory, 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: but neither states. It looks like the judiciary and the 79 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: game is more concerned about the numbers of people in 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: prison than actually detecting the people in the street. Well, 81 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: let me tell you something. If people are in prison, 82 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: it's because they committed a crime. We live in a 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: democratic country. You cannot throw to prison for political reasons 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: because you don't like the government. You go to prison 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: because you're stuffed up somewhere. Now, I understand there are 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: several levels of crime and why it happened. But come on, 87 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: if somebody has agglivat as salt two rape charges, crime 88 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: with drugs, I mean, how much benefit of dark can be. 89 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: The other thing is why do you put to prison? 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: Take them out of the comfort of the prison. Put 91 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: it somewhere really hot and nasty that they don't want 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: to go back again, like in a camp that will 93 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: actually learn something to do, training, learning to read and write, 94 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: because most of them can read and write their name, 95 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: so do something different. Prison is one way. And if 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: you're afraid of putting people to prison, I'll tell you 97 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: what you should be worried about the next four years. 98 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 2: What's going to happen. 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, look on the absolutely needs to be changed, We've 100 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: all been calling for it for such a long period 101 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: of time. But look, I do want to ask about 102 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: some council issues as well. 103 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: This week. 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: I know that there is quite a bit going on. Tomorrow. 105 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: The City of Darwin is set to release the municipal Plan, 106 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: the draft Municipal Plan with stakeholder and community engagement opening tomorrow. 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: What can we expect as part of that municipal plan 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: for this year? 109 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: People will be pleasantly surprised about how we are went 110 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: about the municipal plan. We understand there's a cost of living, 111 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: so do not expect a big rise on rates. We 112 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: actually have some setenents, like we're not going to increase 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: some of ourficient charges. And the reason I can't go 114 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: into it because every is official yet it's going to 115 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: happen tomorrow. But I'll tell you what councils and the 116 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: councilors are you. We are coming from the community, and 117 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: what affects you today affects us every day. If the 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: price of goods in the supermarket's expensive for you, it's 119 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: expensive for us. If things are too expensive in the 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: petrol bars for you, it's expensive for us. We don't 121 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: get free petrol, we don't get free shopping. We have 122 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: to do our own. So we have taking a very 123 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: conservative approach and there could be pleasant surprises for our constituents. 124 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Now, I got a message from AJAX yesterday. It says DEARKD. 125 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Actually it was from when I interviewed the CEO of 126 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: the City of Darwin, Simone Saunders, last week, and it said, 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: dear KD. In your interview with the City of Darwin 128 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: CEO mentioned the new Civic Center has been four years 129 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: in the planning. If that's the case, why was it 130 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: not mentioned in the twenty twenty one council elections. This 131 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: issue may have influenced the election results, but it would 132 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: have given or it may not have, but it would 133 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: have given clarity to elected councilors what the community think 134 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: about the rates being spent on this building? That one 135 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: there from AJAX. What do you say to that message? 136 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: Applying to the legislation with regards to occupation the other 137 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: safety is not an election issue. It's not something that 138 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: actually elected members can put their hand in or influence 139 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: it. It thinks all we have to do by legislation, and 140 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the election, who's elected. We're obliged 141 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: by a lot to do it. Our new building, old 142 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: building does not comply with a lot of this occupation, 143 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: health and safety legislation. There's no access, we've got problems. 144 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: We couldn't even find the bloody plans that tell us 145 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: how much still it's in it because it was built 146 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: so long ago and a lot of this information being lost. 147 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: It hasn't got certificals. 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: It had to happen. 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: It had to happen because I'm actually if something goes wrong, 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: were us bored, were liable. But at the same time 151 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: at the legislation we can't say you have to do 152 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: that one. That's an operational matter. It's been in the 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: books in the municipal plan for four years. People knew 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: about it. But again I'm sorry, I can't tell the 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: CEO today don't do it to save money, because if 156 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: something goes wrong tomorrow and one of the people there 157 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: is injured and I have said don't do it, I'll 158 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: be in bigger trouble than you. The CEO will be. 159 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Con very quickly. We've got this we're calling for or 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the counselor's calling for community in portal for people to 161 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: have this side when it comes to a new gym 162 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: at the pool, at the Parap pool for the swimmers. 163 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a fantastic idea myself. 164 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: It's a unique opportunes for Darwin to have people from 165 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: national in the National comment trade in Perap. This is 166 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: the place where we don't use at the moment. They 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: can put now a land based facility for people to 168 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: do training. And as you said before, it's a great idea. 169 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: We've got a world standards pool that complies with the 170 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Swimming Association standards, the Australian one, putting something else to 171 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: compliment that one. To attract more people, we revitalized the pool, 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: will put us in the map because people says I'm 173 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: going to down on the train and. 174 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yep, that's exactly right. Well, Lord Mayor 175 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: conbat Scalis, we are going to have to leave it there. 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: I'm running very late for the National News. Thank you 177 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: so much for your time pressure. 178 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: See you next week.