WEBVTT - Chloe Szep's Clapback, Sammy Robinson Confirms Split & Mikaela Testa's Pregnancy Surprise 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.160 This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.680 exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.560 Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:15.680 identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:20.640 all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:27.000 That is so fat. Thank you, Happy Friday, and welcome 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.200 back to another episode of Outspoken. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:29.760 Now. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.159 This week, I could not have agreed more with Brooke Hogan. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.040 She went on an Instagram story and said that she's 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.000 got no idea what to wear anymore because she's basically 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.480 been wearing activewear for the last year and she's got 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.760 no idea what's going on in fashion anymore. This is 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:45.479 what she had to. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:50.320 Say, having a moment, I think where all I've worn 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:56.160 for basically the past year is activewear every single day 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:03.400 that I actually don't know in terms of style what 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:08.880 suits me anymore. And I'm really struggling with pants and shoes. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.080 I usually love high waisted like flared, but then they 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.920 look weird with boots, but then I don't have any 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.039 straight leg pants that I like, and then I have 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.160 no shoes to it. Other than runners because my boots 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.600 are quird. I just I'm really struggling, guys, And I'm 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:32.320 not sure if it's just like fashion or if it's 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:38.559 the fact that I've been so reliant on active wear 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.280 that I've just completely lost touch with what's. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.200 Called Yeah, well, the lockdowns have completely screwed me over, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.200 but also so has working from home for four years, Sophie. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.680 Because we are really lucky to wear track pants every 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.800 day to work if we wish to. Why I don't 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.240 actually wear track pants. I wear tight save me to work. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.720 I don't know, you're a very big track suit person. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.040 But I could not agree more with their sentiment about 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.840 trying to find boots that go with flares or the 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.680 new mum jeans, because I was getting ready for a 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.280 meeting and I've bought these new nice boots and I 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.240 was so excited to wear them with my new jeans, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.200 and I literally like a pirate or something trying to 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.400 get they just look ridiculous and you've got to wear 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.519 white shoes with them. But then I feel like that's 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.120 unprofessional to wear to a meeting. Yeah, I feel like 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.240 it's either sneakers or high heels that look good with 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.000 some of those new flared pants or oversized pants. It's 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.040 like I'm not wearing high heels. They're not really made 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.640 for winter either, are they. Because you've got this slight 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.040 bit of your ankle that's poking out, do you know 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.440 what you've got to do? So for you, you've just 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.080 got to wear skinny jeans because you can wear boots 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.920 with skinny jeans, you can wear sneakers with skinny jeans, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.240 but they're uncomfortable. I literally I cannot bring myself to 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.520 wear uncomfortable pants. I have to. I mean, as soon 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.480 as I get home from work, I either get into 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.840 tights or my pajamas. And literally, I've been wearing the 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.160 daggiest pair of ripped jeans to work. It's actually disgusting. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.959 They're like five years old and falling apart, but they're 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.240 the most comfortable because the low ride. Now I'm not 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.440 trying to name drop here, but we actually do a 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.480 bit of work with Callum Han from Mastership and it 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.600 was pretty funny because we had to be at this 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.519 shoot that was really early in the morning. It was 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.000 a bit of a marketplace tour for our client, pick 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.680 a local, and basically I just chucked my mum jeans 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.239 on and I'm renowned for never having socks that match. Anyway, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.680 I had two different socks on, and they're not the 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.880 cool socks that go below the sneakers. They were the 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.560 ones that just go above and you look like a dog. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:30.880 Now. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.840 So you had one sock that was like an ankle sock, 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.280 and then you had one sock that was a higher Yeah, 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.760 so it looked like an absolute mess. Anyway, Callum was 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.400 standing there and I went up to order something at 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.800 the cafe and he said, oh, oh yeah, ankles cold 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.280 in those I can see your socks poking out and 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.320 I and I just wanted the floor to swallow me 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.720 at that point because but but this is what I 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.480 don't get. Aren't those long socks now in amy? Because 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.480 you were trying to rock some sort of high Nike 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.320 socks with tights on a walk. I have seen Sarah's 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.680 Danger New active wear shoet is that in? Because I 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.800 wouldn't even know, well, it's apparently in. And the only 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.960 reason I bought them was because I kept wearing these 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.960 penguin bed socks around on our walks. That wasn't a 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.320 great And Sophy said, I looked so bad that I thought, well, 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.600 if I buy these Nike long socks, at least I'm 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.600 kind of in fashion. But I've got to say on 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.560 Brooks comments, she actually looks really good in an active 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.200 wear and I just look like a complete bum. Yeah, 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.599 that's the thing. There is a real difference between like 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.280 a nice set of active wear and just the shit that, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.680 like the mismatched shit that you wear. My issue is 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.920 that I'm not one of those people that look clean. Now, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.200 I don't know, I'm not obviously not a mum, but 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.000 I feel like mums could relate to the feeling of 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.559 not looking clean, because I mean they probably have vomit 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.360 all over their clothes. I instead have makeup, so all 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.880 of my collars have foundation or powder or something on it. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.159 So I'd go out of the house and just look unclean. Well, 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.800 that's like because I've had, you know, the lockdown, and 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.520 I feel like, as Brookers said, everyone's been wearing active 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.240 wear for the past year and a half. It was 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.560 so funny the other day I wore jeans in front 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.400 of dal Or and I just had a normal hoodie on, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.880 and He's like, looking good. I was like, I've literally 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.240 made no efforts, So maybe that's the only positive thing 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.719 that when you actually do make a slight effort, people 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.599 not well. Jean's now is an effort, it really is. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.320 You can never have enough hats, gloves, and shoes. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.040 Chloe sepp Is called out Outspoken, as well as gossip 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.280 pages and articles for putting her down. On Tuesday night, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.160 the Gold Coast based influencer shared a lengthy post on 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.360 Instagram where she invited followers who didn't align with her 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.880 to unfollow her. Kate, do you think Chloe is an 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:35.440 Outspoken listener? Well, it is possible that she listened to 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.000 Monday's episode, but I think it's more likely that she 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.559 discovered our podcast through the Daily Mail. So it seems 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.120 like some journalists from the Daily Mail are listening to 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.520 Outspoken because they've written quite a few articles based on 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.760 conversations that we've had on our podcast. So on Tuesday, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.479 they wrote an article based on our discussion on Monday's 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.479 podcast episode where we revealed that Chloe has lost over 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.360 six thousand followers in the last thirty days, and this 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.520 came after she shared her support for the protests, and 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.479 in contrast, we spoke about how Abby Chatfield had gained 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.599 over sixteen thousand followers after calling out the protest Now. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.520 Funnily enough, the Daily Mail also wrote an article based 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.240 in now comments around Tammy Hembroove's new Bentley and her 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.760 getting ten and makeup marks on it seems like there 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.360 was a bit of a slow newsday. I had a 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.040 few friends send this through and I thought it was 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.880 absolutely hilarious. I did like that the Daily Mail tagged 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.960 our podcast as well, because always a bit of good 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.200 pr I want to say thank you to whoever it 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.920 is from the Daily mailers listening. It made my day. Actually, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.039 this thing, I mean, you know, it is a questionable 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.520 publication at times, but you know, maybe they're looking up 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.400 in the world if they're starting to report on stuff 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.080 from the podcast. Amy, what can you please share with 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.440 us what Chloe's post actually said. Well, Chloe wrote two 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.159 articles gossip pages, podcast people, anyone out there to put 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.640 others down and in that fact, anyone feeding that listening 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.719 to that engaging and that I'm here to set a 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.720 harsh boundary. It's twenty twenty one and if you still 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.159 participate in feeding on gossip drama, putting others down, you 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.560 have an illness. And I'm telling you it's worse than 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.400 any virus going around? Now do you really like being 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.400 so negative and horrible? Does it make you feel that 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.680 good to put others down? If you're doing this, I 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.040 really encourage you to be better, take your power back 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.320 and become better for your own life instead of putting 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.600 others down to try to get them on your level. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.240 You are so miserable on I promise you. I used 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.680 to be judgmental, negative, but that was when I was 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.800 really unhappy in myself. Now I'm thriving. I don't need 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.280 to associate in that because I feel good and that 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.320 brings me down. Now, if you're still here and you 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.640 don't want to be better, unfollow me. I don't have 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.760 time for people that aren't willing to be better. I'm 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.000 losing followers by the day and I literally am waving 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.200 them goodbye. The more alignment for me, the better. Only 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.040 up from here. So Chloe's partner Mitch also shared the post, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.720 obviously showing his support and put clapping hands, and he 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.000 also shared a photo of himself and his son Artie 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.760 and wrote be so positive that negative people unfollow you 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.520 on Instagram. Gee, I think that's really what's happening here. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.760 I think He's hit the absolute name on the head 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.000 with that one. Well, the whole thing is that I 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.320 feel like a lot of people who still follow Chloe 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.120 Zepp would have read that, and they probably did go 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.240 and unfollow her as a consequence, because so many people 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.240 are just so angry about the misinformation she and her 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.920 family are putting online during this lockdown. I think Chloe's 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.240 response to this criticism from our podcasts and also other 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.120 media outlets was incredibly disappointing. I mean to be honest, though, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.080 I wasn't surprised, as this is the default response from 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.880 basically every influence that we've ever held to account on 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:35.000 this podcast. Rather than actually taking the constructive criticism on board, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.480 they always instead deem it as bulling, and they just 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.280 try to push their rhetoric that everyone is miserable and 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.240 jealous of all. There's a reason why people are unfollowing them, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.880 and it's because of the negative messaging they've been putting 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.520 out recently. Yeah, I agree, Amy, and I'm getting really 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.400 frustrated that influencers think that they are above feedback. If 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.839 you just look at the name given to them. Influencers 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:01.239 have a powerful influence on our society, particularly the younger generations. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.040 So if you're an influencer, you are not above critique. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.400 If you look at Chloe, she currently has a platform 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.920 of six hundred and seventy six thousand followers. This is 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.760 a massive responsibility and one that she has taken on 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.200 board in order to enjoy the lifestyle she has been 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.240 afforded due to her following. I mean, at twenty two 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.959 years old, she has a multimillion dollar property, luxury cars, 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:27.000 she has amazing goes on amazing holidays, has designer jewelry, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.720 bags and clothes. She's in a very enviable financial position 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.120 thanks to this large following, and she has also had 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.320 the opportunity to launch successful businesses based on this inbuilt audience. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.320 All of these opportunities have come to her from this 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.240 social media following. And while I'm not trying to discount 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.040 the work she has put into cultivating this following and 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.559 launching her own business, it's pretty fair to say influencing 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.720 is not a difficult job compared to others. If any 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.480 of their daily Instagram stories of vlogs are anything to 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.360 go by, It's a lot of exercising, brunching, and approving 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.640 of other people's idea. Yeah, and The thing is, though, 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:06.440 you're basically telling your audience who who by following you 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.400 have given you this amazing life and these amazing opportunities 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.640 to go away if you don't agree with their rhetoric 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.520 on COVID. The other thing that disturbs me on so 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.600 many levels is the constant throwing around of this term bulling. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.760 I'm sorry, there is no bulling involved if you were 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.280 holding to account someone's behavior. We're critiquing Chloe Zep's behavior here. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.839 We are not critiquing her as a person or throwing 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.199 around insults to me because her as a person. I mean, 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.360 I've always loved following her and Mitch, but I can't 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.640 stand by and let them put out this misinformation about 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.000 COVID that is actually affecting the whole world. We can't 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.040 stand by. I mean, personally, they're probably really nice people, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.400 but unfortunately you can't put this stuff out online that 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.360 does a thing to go and have to go go 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.200 and have a drink with them down the parb or 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.480 have a lunch with them. I'm sure that they're lovely people, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.199 but when you dig a little bit deeper, we're talking. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.320 But that's what I'm saying. But I'm just saying that 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.520 it's not bulling to disagree with some one's point of 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.880 view and the harmful message that they're putting out to 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.760 follow it. But at the at the end of the day, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.720 I feel like they've changed a lot in the last 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.720 year and a half and it seems like since they've 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.760 entered this kind of wellness environment that it's radically changed 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.120 their opinions. And I saw this really great post that 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.959 Olivia Rodgers shared from Claire Bowditch, and she said, choosing 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.720 not to get vaccinated when you could get vaccinated is 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.400 not a passive act in the current circumstances. It is, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.400 in fact, an act of deep aggression against Australian culture, artists, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.760 small business and our ability to move forward with our lives. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.719 And I could not agree more. I think that's why 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.080 it's becoming quite personal, because it is a form of 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.839 aggression and it is putting everyone's lives and livelihoods at 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.600 risk now. Chloe continued to push medical misinformation on her 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.200 Instagram stories this week, so on Wednesday, Chloe shared a 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.400 post saying people who don't rely on pharmaceuticals and work 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.959 on their health naturally are the healthiest people alive when 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.880 did they become the spreaders of disease? When did they 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.360 become the selfish ones? They put the most time, effort, 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.680 and resources towards health than anyone else. Can she just 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.439 put down her phone and stop googling this stuff now? 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.840 She followed this up by sharing an image of two 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.640 fish bowls, one with dirty water and the other with 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.800 clean water. It then said how would you treat a 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.800 sick fish theory? One? Medicate the fish theory? Two clean 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.760 the tank? Oh I feel on it was that easy? 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.440 So Shortly after these posts, Chloe began to backtrack on 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.680 her commentary after presumably receiving backlash, saying she wasn't at 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.800 all trying to put down pharmaceuticals or modern medicine. She wrote, ps, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.120 modern medicine is amazing and is life saving. I'm all 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.320 here for it in certain circumstances. She then went on 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.960 to say that she was talking about people with unhealthy 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.800 habits that use pharmaceuticals to get rid of symptoms but 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.600 don't treat the underlying cause. And then she spoke about 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.480 her own experience with taking rot acotane and the pill 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.760 to treat her acne. She said it was lifestyle food 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.920 and emotions causing her acne, So changing her lifestyle, change 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.400 the symptoms. Now, I'm sorry, but an infectious disease is 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:13.080 slightly different to acne. Well, she's claiming that she wasn't, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.720 Like I feel like she's trying to say that she 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.400 wasn't talking about COVID and this post was just made 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.800 about healing your gut, health and all that kind of bullshit. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.560 But why would you make it when we're in the 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.360 middle of a pandemic. Queensland's just gone into lockdown, Sydney 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.920 is obviously in a long term lockdown. It's quite clear 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.880 that she is trying to push a certain agenda, but 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.000 then as soon as she gets any negative feedback, she 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.960 quickly retreats. And it's like, no, no, no, I wasn't 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.320 saying that. It's like you clearly were Exactly why would 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.280 you be posting that sort of stuff during this time, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.840 and especially when you're aware that your followers are dropping. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.720 There's a reason why. Yeah, Well, it wasn't only Chloe 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.800 that had a big week. Mitchell Orvil's week was quite 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.600 controversial as well. So on Sunday, Mitch was hit by 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.880 a car role riding his bike and Mitch jumped onto 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.560 his Instagram story to share his experience. Bplained how a 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.720 guy called Brad, who he'd met at the gym two 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.080 weeks ago, was the first on the scene and picked 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.720 him up with his girlfriend and dropped him home. Now, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.440 it was quite ironic because the guy Brad, he actually 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.280 followed Mitch on Instagram, and he had told his girlfriend 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.600 earlier that that day that he was going to do 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.960 a three kilometer run because he felt very inspired by Mitch, 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.360 because Mitch has been sharing that he's doing a three 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.200 k run every day in twenty twenty one as a 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.360 part of a New Year's resolution. So in the vlog, 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.040 Mitch revealed that he and Chloe had been fighting in 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.240 the car before the accident took place. Mitch said that 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.040 he didn't want to sit in the car and continue 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.920 to argue, so he got out and rode home on 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.440 his bike. I'm confused where the bike. Oh, I think 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.280 it was one of those you know, those bikes that 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.040 you can that you can pick up off the side 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.880 of the road, those e bike things. That's what I assumed. Okay, 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.680 that made more sense. He then said. The conversation between 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.800 him and Chloe was left open ended. And it would 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.640 have been a terrible last conversation to have. Interestingly, after 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.240 Mitch shared all this, he actually received a lot of 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.480 backlash over the incident. Amy, can you tell us what happened? Yeah, so, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.000 some followers message Mitch saying he'd broken lockdown rules for 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.000 getting into the car with the couple. So at the time, 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.680 Southeast Queensland had gone into a lockdown and it was 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.720 against the rules to be with people outside of your household. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.680 So what sparked the outrage from followers was the fact 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.840 that Mitch she had and Instagram story when he was 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.040 in the car with the couple and they weren't wearing 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.040 masks in the car. So in Queensland, you can only 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.080 leave your home for essential purposes. You must be wearing 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.120 a face mask at all times when you leave the house, 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.040 so obviously that applies to when you're in the car, 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.520 unless you are alone in your car or with a 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.600 member of your household. So these people obviously didn't expect 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.360 that Mitch was going to be, you know, pop up 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.360 and be hit by a car. To be honest, I 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.560 thought the backlash was a little bit unfair on Mitch 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.520 because I'm sorry, but this is obviously an emergency situation 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.600 where someone has been hit by a car, so these 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.320 people coming to his aid were obviously had his best 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.560 intentions at heart and were trying to help. I think 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.520 in these situations you can forgive them and him for 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.640 not wearing mask. However, I do think it is slightly 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.480 odd that the first thing they didn't do was call 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.240 an ambulance, because you don't know what sort of internal 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.480 injuries he may have been suffering from at the time. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.960 See for me, I think the backlash. While obviously it's 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.000 not great that Mitch was in an accident, and I 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.080 really do feel for him in that situation, I think 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.200 it was really irresponsible to just jump into some people's 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.320 car during the lockdown. Are you serious? Yeah? Why would 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.080 you not call an ambulance? He had to tie a 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.640 mark on his back. I agree about not calling an ambulance, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.920 but I don't think that the first thing you think 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.880 when someone has been hit by a car, Hey, I'm 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.800 going to whack my mask on. You probably think, fuck, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.200 I've gotta go and help that person. But it's not 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.960 so much on him. He was clearly in shock and 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.080 had a lot of adrenaline running through him. It should 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.160 have been the people that came to his aid that said, mate, 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.760 let's just wait for an ambulance because you could be 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.040 have internal inn Look at the end of the day, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.680 I know the police commissioner here in South Australia said 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.320 a lot of the rules with the masks of the 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.040 common sense. So I don't think if there was a 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.920 police officer who was there, I don't think they would 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.120 have find any of them because of the situation that 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.520 they found. But why couldn't Why couldn't the people in 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.120 the car have been wearing masks if they picked him up. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.760 My boyfriend was hit by a car I think it 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.679 was the start of this year, and he was in 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.919 shock and it wasn't as bad as what happened to 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.359 Mitch by the looks of Mitch's the tiremark on Mitch's bag, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.760 but he was very insistent that he didn't want to 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.560 go to the hospital. And that's what, unfortunately a lot 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.680 of men do. They're like, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.720 So he might have insisted to these people and they're 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.520 not his family members, they're not going to say no, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.400 we're calling you an ambulance. Well, what do you guys 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.080 think in regards because Mitch also caught backlash because the 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.480 following day he went to the beach and it seems 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.359 like it's a bit of a ritual for him. He 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.639 goes down to the beach like five six am and 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.919 does some special breathing exercises and meditation. So he was 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.800 there with a friend, So in Queensland you are allowed 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.440 to go on walks with a friend that's outside of 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.879 your household. However, he was sitting next to him. They 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.800 were clearly meditating on the beach, and in Queensland you 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.920 can take your mask off if you're participating in strength 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.800 was exercise. However, like I think just walking around you 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.440 actually have to wear a mask, so I would assume 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.760 that would be the same case with meditating. I think 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.240 it's a bit nitpicking. It's a difficult one. I do 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.879 feel like Chloe, Zepp and Mitchell are really under the 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.520 microscope at the moment and people are just looking for 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.960 things to be angered about. At the end of the day. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.000 I do think that Chloe spreading misinformation on an Instagram 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.879 page is something to sort of jump up and down with. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.600 But I do feel like I don't know with Mitch, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.159 I don't know if he's actually like, obviously we need 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.120 to call that people's behavior if they're doing the wrong thing. 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.520 But as you said, Sophia, I think there's a bit 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:31.920 of nitpicking going on. Yeah, I don't know. I just 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.240 feel it's a bit of nitpicking. Obviously it's not the 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.280 perfect situation. But they were outside on a beach. I 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.600 have more of an issue when I see them walking 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.240 around in shops with no masks on, when it's mandatory 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.920 to enter these shops. Don't you think people are nitpicking 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.359 because it's like a culmination of things, like if it 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.200 was just I understand if he was just not wearing 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.480 a mask on the beach, and he looked very emotional 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.080 in the post that he did share. But my thoughts are, Okay, Firstly, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.639 you've gone to the extent of filming your reaction to 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.680 this meditation after you've been hit by a car, so 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.640 you're obviously in the mental space that you can set 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.000 that up. Why could you then not wear a mask? 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.480 It doesn't really add up. Maybe because of the deep 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.360 breathing with the meditation, because that's the reason why you're 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.159