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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 1: That is so fat. Thank you, Happy Friday, and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another episode of Outspoken.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: This week, I could not have agreed more with Brooke Hogan.

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Speaker 1: She went on an Instagram story and said that she's

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Speaker 1: been wearing activewear for the last year and she's got

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Speaker 2: Say, having a moment, I think where all I've worn

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Speaker 2: I usually love high waisted like flared, but then they

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Speaker 2: not sure if it's just like fashion or if it's

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Speaker 2: the fact that I've been so reliant on active wear

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Speaker 1: Called Yeah, well, the lockdowns have completely screwed me over,

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Speaker 1: but also so has working from home for four years, Sophie.

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Speaker 1: Because we are really lucky to wear track pants every

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Speaker 1: They're like five years old and falling apart, but they're

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Speaker 1: Chloe sepp Is called out Outspoken, as well as gossip

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Speaker 1: holding to account someone's behavior. We're critiquing Chloe Zep's behavior here.

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Speaker 3: That's sort of why I've been a little ama on YouTube,

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I have had massive anxiety about getting

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Speaker 3: back on social media and talking about everything and slash.

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Speaker 3: I've just been hustling with One Mile and distracting myself

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Speaker 3: with that sort of side of my job. So I've

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Speaker 3: definitely neglected you guys.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think caused Sammy to come out

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Speaker 1: and finally speak about this topic, because she's released quite

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Speaker 1: a few vlogs since the breakup and has stayed quiet

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Speaker 1: on it. Well, I think that possibly a reason that

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Speaker 1: she's come out and confirmed the split, But it is

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Speaker 1: because of the rumor circulating about her new boyfriend, Jordan Simmy.

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Speaker 1: So if she is in fact going to come out

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Speaker 1: soon and announce that she's officially with this guy, she

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Speaker 1: has got to confirm the split. Yeah, that could be

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Speaker 1: true because Jordan Simmy has a podcast where he's pretty

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Speaker 1: open and honest about his life, so it's only a

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Speaker 1: matter of time if they are together that he's going

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Speaker 1: to speak about her, and I, as you say, I

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Speaker 1: suppose it looks good if she actually confirms that she

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Speaker 1: has broken up with Nick. I did really feel for her, though,

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Speaker 1: because she said she's been feeling really anxious about sharing

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Speaker 1: this news on social media, and he gave a real

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Speaker 1: insight into what it must be like having to share

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Speaker 1: that sort of personal information to a big audience. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it did really humanize her, and I think it was

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Speaker 1: good that she opened up about feeling that way, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do expect to hear a lot

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Speaker 1: of dirt and all the nitty gritty when people announce

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Speaker 1: a breakup, So I think it was good that she

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Speaker 1: said that she was somewhat nervous about doing so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's also very respectful to Nick, which I'm sure he'll appreciate.

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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see if we do hear

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Speaker 1: more on the topic.

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Speaker 3: Oh my God, I'm tey Central.

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Speaker 2: Are you man?

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Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester has revealed she thinks she's pregnant to boyfriend

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Speaker 1: Addis Paul. The Only Fans star shared the news on

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Speaker 1: her TikTok this week. Sophie, what did Mikayla say so?

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Speaker 1: Mikayla explained that she did a pregnancy test and found

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Speaker 1: out she was going to be a mum. So she

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Speaker 1: did three tests in total that revealed that she is pregnant.

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Speaker 1: She said she was incomplete disbelief over it, so she

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Speaker 1: in fact did another test in the morning and the

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Speaker 1: result was the same. Here's what she said, how do.

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Speaker 4: I even tell you guys this? So last night I

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Speaker 4: did a pregnancy test and found out I was going

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Speaker 4: to be a mother. I thought, oh no, no, maybe

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Speaker 4: the test is just faulty. No, they broth, they both

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Speaker 4: say pregnant. I still didn't believe it. So I, well, okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to do another test and just get fresh pea. It

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Speaker 4: literally says pregnant. I'm going to be a fucking mom.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be a fucking mother. Oh shit, what

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Speaker 4: the universe is crazy? The universe brings crazy things into

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Speaker 4: my life every day, and this is just.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know how. I don't even know how

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Speaker 4: to feel. This has not sucking. Obviously not conferming because

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Speaker 4: I need to go to a doctor. But lockdown.

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Speaker 1: I find it funny how she has to mention the

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Speaker 1: universe it seems like a very influencer twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: thing to say. Mikayla then uploaded a second video where

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Speaker 1: she said she was getting so many comments saying her

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Speaker 1: test was negative and that the clear Blue test was unreliable.

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Speaker 1: She wanted to say that she was really confused and

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Speaker 1: she was now going to go to the doctor to

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Speaker 1: get confirmation. And I don't blame her because I looked

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Speaker 1: at the tests and I didn't even think it looked

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Speaker 1: like she was pregnant. Now, is anyone else a little

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Speaker 1: bit concerned about what Mikayla and Adis are going to

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Speaker 1: call this child? I know we did a segment a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago about terrible baby names and the

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Speaker 1: fact that these two have called their bald cat ball sack.

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Speaker 1: I don't know my alarm nuts sack. Sorry, my alarm

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Speaker 1: bells are ringing of what this name is going to be. Well,

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Speaker 1: after our segment on l Darby's baby, and we went

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Speaker 1: through all the names of the band in Australia, I

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Speaker 1: do feel a little bit better about the fact because

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Speaker 1: I don't think a name like Nutsack would be allowed

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Speaker 1: in Australia. Now, Adams Paul seemed to be very excited

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Speaker 1: by the news that he was going to become a father.

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Speaker 1: This is what he said, I.

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Speaker 5: Just got the sexiest girl in the world pregnant. He

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Speaker 5: took a few more tests to be sure, and all

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Speaker 5: of them say pregnant. I don't know what to do,

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Speaker 5: but this is fucking amazing. I think I've had a

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Speaker 5: little bit too much of these big fat cheeks. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what to do now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very Adams Pool response to

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Speaker 1: the pregnancy announcement. It was quite funny because an eagle

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Speaker 1: eyed fan spotted on an Instagram post from eight weeks

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Speaker 1: ago a comment from Mikayla, and she wrote, how do

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Speaker 1: you like your eggs cooked in the morning? Baby? And

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Speaker 1: he replied, yours fertilized with love her. Doesn't that just

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Speaker 1: make you feel sick and is so gross? So do

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Speaker 1: we think that it's been planned? A planned pregnancy? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't follow them that closely, but I did see

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Speaker 1: a few comments saying that Michayla seemed very keen to

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Speaker 1: have a child, which did surprise me. There seem to

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Speaker 1: also be a lot of questions around why Michayla had

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Speaker 1: chosen to share the news so early in the pregnancy,

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Speaker 1: considering she's not even quite sure if she is pregnant.

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Speaker 1: It did get me thinking, though, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversations around the fact that people

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Speaker 1: should announce their pregnancy after twelve weeks. However, it seems

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Speaker 1: like that's getting a little bit outdated now that people

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Speaker 1: are really wanting to normalize conversations around miscarriage. So while

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Speaker 1: I feel weird praising Michayla and Addis because obviously this

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Speaker 1: is not quite a normal announcement, particularly Addis's response, I

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Speaker 1: do think it's good because creating conversations around how pregnancy

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Speaker 1: announcements should be performed, and you know, maybe it is

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Speaker 1: a good thing that they've come out early and said it. Well,

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