1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: It is busy, busy in here this morning, and there 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: is so much happening around the place. Now we know 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: that overnight well, Northern Territory Police arrested a man after 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: he allegedly targeted police with his vehicle in Alice Springs. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: So about ten thirty, several units responded to this disturbance 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: that was occurring on Todd Street involving multiple people. Joining 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: me in the studio right now is the Northern Territory 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Police Assistant Commissioner Travis Wurst. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning, Cody mon is your listeners. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Assistant commissioner tell us what happened at about ten thirty 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: last night. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: So about ten thirty last night, police had responded to 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: some calls in relation to some disturbances in the wills 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Terrace area, so Todd Tavern area and the Willis Terrace 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: car park. As a consequence of that, there were a 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 3: number of police attended. A police vehicle pulled up and 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: parked on wills Terrace facing toward the Todd River just 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: before the Todd Tavern. As a consequence of the disturbances 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: in the car park, one officer alighted from the passenger 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: lighted from this police vehicle, and then the driver got 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: out of the vehicle and then got back in because 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: he was going to move the police car. At about 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: the same time, there was a person who got into 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: a blue BT fifty in the Will's Terrace car park. 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: He exited the car. 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Park and then drove east along wills Terrace so toward 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: the Todd River, accelerated rapidly. The vehicle actually fishtailed because 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: of the acceleration, and the vehicle drove directly toward the 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: police officer was standing on the edge of the footpath 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: on the edge of the road at the rear of 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: the police vehicle. That vehicle did not accelerate, continued to 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: move directly towards the police officer. He stepped back, drew 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: his firearm and fired three rounds at the vehicle. The 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: vehicle at speed struck the rear of the police vehicle. 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: As a consequence of that, thirty eight year old male 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: was arrested from that vehicle. He was the driver of 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: the BT fifty. There were no other people in that vehicle. 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: The rounds that were fired by the police officer did 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: not strike anyone. As I said, there was only one 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: person in that vehicle. No one was injured from the 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: firearm discharge. The person that was arrested by police was 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: taken into police custody and straight to Alice Springs Hospital 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: for assessment. Whilst he was being assessed, he spat at 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 3: both the police and hospital staff. He was later sedated, 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: but after he was sedated and assessed, he was determined 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: to be fit for custody and was transferred to Alice 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: Springs Police Watchhouse. He's currently in police custody and assisting 48 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: police for their investigations. As part of the investigation, he's 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: yet to be charged with any offenses. The police officer 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: that there was a police officer sitting in the driver's 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: seat of the police vehicle that was struck. 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: He also was assessed that Alice Springs Hospital. 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: For for any injuries that may have been sustained as 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: a consequence of the force of the vehicle. That all right, 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: He's been assessed and he's been since released, and we're 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: hoping that there's no other injuries that haven't. 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: Yet manifested themselves. 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: From a policing perspective, this has been deemed as a 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: serious custody incident. As accordance with our policy, we have 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: a full structure in place, including an overall investigator in charge. 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: He's a detective superintendent. He's based in Ala Springs. 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: Our Springs Investigations team are fully activated and working through 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: this investigation. There was a crime scene established. That crime 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: scene is still in place, and we've got lots of 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: work to do around managing that crime scene. 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: So presumably the shots that were fired were fired as 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: a defensive measure by that police officer as a vehicle's 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: being driven at it. 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: So as part of I just have done with the 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: Commissioner a press conference in relation to this. As part 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: of that, we've released some CCTV footage of the actual 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: incident site. That footage is very clear that shows the 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: police officer was in imminent danger, and that danger was 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: if he had been struck by that vehicle, it's likely 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: that he could have lost his life. 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner like, how concerned are you at the moment? 77 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: You've got people in the community in Alice Springs that 78 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: are driving cars at your offices. 79 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: So we've had vehicles that have targeted police in the past, 80 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: but not at this speed, not with this gravity, not 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: with what appears to be this intent. This is a 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: really serious set of circumstances that we, from an investcative 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: point of view, are taking extremely seriously. So we've got 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: two investigations running parallel. One is the criminal investigation into 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: the individual's conduct, and then we have the serious custody incident, 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: which is more of an internal assessment that has been 87 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: done in conjunction with our professional Standards Command who provide assistance. 88 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: From an oversight perspective, the behavior of this. 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: Individual in this vehicle extremely dangerous, harborrant and placed officers 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: and members of the community, but first and foremost officers 91 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: at extreme risk and the officer involved who discharges FIREHM 92 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: had to take drastic measures to ensure both his safety 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: and the safety of the public around him. 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Have you spoken to him this morning? 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 3: No, I haven't, but I do know that the Alice 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: Springs leadership team have wrapped around him. He's been provided 97 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 3: significant welfare support. The Northern Territory Police Association are also 98 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: engaged and will continue to work through his well being 99 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: and his colleague and all the other Alic Springs officers 100 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: as well as this particular investigation continued. 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen an escalation over the last few weeks, 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: so certainly there's been some pretty serious incidents over the 103 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: last few weeks. In fact, I believe one of those 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: brawls on a Friday afternoon a couple of Fridays ago, 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: was outside the Todd Tavern as well, where somebody was 106 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: armed with a machete. There was vision sort of being 107 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: shed all over the place. What is going on? Like, 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: are we talking about people that are Alice Springs residents? 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Have we got you know? Is it family feuding? What 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: is happening? 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: I understand and we've got so. Generically, I understand that 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 3: there is a number of incidents that occurred in Central 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: Australia over the last a couple of months that have 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: caused lots of family tension, and a lot of that 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: tension has spilled over into other springs. The exact circumstances 116 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: around what led to this scenario overnight, I'm yet to 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: fully understand, so I'm loath to sort of make any 118 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: comment or speculate, but generally speaking, yes, there's been lots 119 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: of incidents that have led to lots of spill over 120 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: in other springs. A lot of the folk involved aren't 121 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: necessarily out of Springs residents, but they are drawn into 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: other springs. 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Other springs at the moment. 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: Because of the weather, event has had lots of people 125 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: come into town and can't leave, So there's probably more 126 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: in more people in other springs than may ordinarily be 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 3: the case. 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: What assurances can you give the broader public? You know, 129 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: this kind of thing happening on the straight, it's scary stuff. 130 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: It's scary for everybody involved. But I know if you 131 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: live there, you'd be thinking, goodness me, you know, can 132 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: something like this happen in the middle of the day. 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: Am I going to see somebody brandishing a machete? Is 134 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: there going to be some driving down the street at 135 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: speed towards me? What assurances would you give the people 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: of Alice Springs this morning? 137 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: So, unfortunately, we have seen a shift in conduct and 138 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: behavior of the very small sector of the community. 139 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: They are behaving in this way. 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: The only reassurance that I can give that most of 141 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: this behavior is directed specifically, directed at other individuals, not 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: at the general public. So if you see it, step back, 143 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: stay away, keep clear, and advise the police that you 144 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: can see something that's occurring. Most of the activity that 145 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: I'm aware of has been exactly that and hasn't been 146 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: affecting the general population. That being said, it is really 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: confronting to witness at first hand, if you're so placed, 148 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: but also just to hear about it or observe it 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: on social media. It is really quite confronted well. 150 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: And we're also seeing what I would describe as an 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: escalation in violence towards first responder. So, I mean, I 152 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: caught up with Craig Garaway about a week and a 153 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: half ago and spoke about some of the violence that 154 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: paramedics are on the receiving end of at the moment. 155 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, to have a car driven at an officer 156 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: last night is frightening stuff for you. You must be 157 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: pretty worried about that. Escalation towards frontline services. 158 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: Look absolutely, And one thing I will say is that 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: our training is well classed. Officers are extremely well trained 160 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: through training and then the ongoing training they get. I 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: would suggest that the scenario that played out last night 162 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: and the way in which it transpired is indicative of 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: that high class training that that individual had been through. 164 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: They need to be trained well because society is changing. 165 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: The world is changing, expectations are changing. The way in 166 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: which people see what the role of polices is changing, 167 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: and expectations around what we do is changing, and that 168 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: actually creates a more volatile environment for us to operate. 169 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whether that's in other springs or anywhere else. 170 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: The role of being a police officer nationally glob has 171 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: changed and the territory is no different, and that means 172 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: that at times the danger levels that we're exposed to 173 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: are heightened. 174 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Just finally, are there any additional resources being flown into 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: our springs or any additional measures that you guys taking 176 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: there as a result of this situation? 177 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: So a number of people were already arrested in relation 178 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: to the disturbance that police had initially attended. 179 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: This individual was arrested. 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: We have sufficient investigative and criminal A crime scene investigation 181 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: resources in other springs, so there is no need for 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: additional resources. I'm sure the public that we have dealt 183 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: with what occurred last night. It's not to say that 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: they might be and not other flare ups that occur. 185 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: We've been seeing that. What we have done this morning, 186 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: we've engaged our cultural reform team to understand what happened 187 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: last night to make sure that the arrests that have 188 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: has occurred in relation to this thirty eight year old 189 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: mail doesn't cause any other concerns in the community, and 190 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: so we can continue to maintain a good understanding of 191 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: what the tensions are, what they're about, and trying to 192 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: get in front of them so that we don't have 193 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: scenarios like last night that play out again. 194 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Well, Assistant Commissioner Travis Wurst, really appreciate your time this morning. 195 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for having a chat with us. 196 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Gutting