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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily. This is the daily,

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Daily.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohs oh, now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning and welcome to the Daily Os. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>the seventh of June. I'm Sam, I'm Lucy. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone in the world except Australians are voting national

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<v Speaker 1>elections this year. Over the past couple of weeks, South Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>India and Mexico have all gone to the polls and

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<v Speaker 1>shaken things up. TDAS fact checker Lucy Tassel joins me

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast today to recap the year in elections

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<v Speaker 1>so far, and let's have a look at what's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up before we get there, Lucy, what is making headlines

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<v Speaker 1>this morning?

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<v Speaker 2>An Israeli air strike on a United Nations school in

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<v Speaker 2>central Gaza killed at least twenty seven people. According to

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<v Speaker 2>the Hamas Media Office. The school was being used to

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<v Speaker 2>house displaced people when it was attacked, with dozens injured.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hammas Media office described the st as a horrific massacre.

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<v Speaker 2>The Israeli Defense Forces said the attack targeted a Hummas

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<v Speaker 2>compound inside the school, which hermasterdizes.

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<v Speaker 1>The National Anti Corruption Commission has announced it won't take

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<v Speaker 1>further measures against individuals involved in the illegal Robodet scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>Robodebt was an unlawful automated debt collection system designs to

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<v Speaker 1>recover funds from welfare recipients. A Royal commission into the

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<v Speaker 1>scheme referred six public officials to the anti corruption body.

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<v Speaker 1>In a statement, the NAAC said the conduct of the

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<v Speaker 1>officials had already been quote fully explored in the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>commission and found it unlikely that it would find significant

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<v Speaker 1>new evidence if it launched its own investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico has recorded the first human case of the H

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<v Speaker 2>five N to avian influenza or bird flu strain in

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<v Speaker 2>a patient who died. The World Health Organization has confirmed

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<v Speaker 2>the death. A fifty nine year old was hospitalized in

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<v Speaker 2>April after several weeks of symptoms. Testing after his death

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<v Speaker 2>indicated he was infected with bird flu. The source of

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<v Speaker 2>the infection is unknown, but the virus has been spreading

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<v Speaker 2>through poultry in the country. The WHO said the man

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<v Speaker 2>had multiple underlying medical conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>And some Friday good news for you, Doctors have made

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<v Speaker 1>a breakthrough discovery in their understanding of inflammatory bowel diseases,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes Crohn's disease. Researchers in the UK found a

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<v Speaker 1>boosted gene containing a type of DNA with increased protein

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<v Speaker 1>that causes inflammation and tissue damage in patients with IBD.

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<v Speaker 1>This discovery means researchers will hopefully be able to develop

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<v Speaker 1>targeted treatment to deactivate the specific gene without negative side

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<v Speaker 1>effects and ease IBD symptoms.

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<v Speaker 2>Over two billion people are going to vote in elections

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<v Speaker 2>this year, making it the biggest year for democracy basically ever. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>just this week on TDA we wrote about India's election,

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico's election, South Africa's election, and I think each of

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<v Speaker 2>these elections points to like an interesting trend that we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing across all the different votes this year. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's kind of a sense of the changing of the

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<v Speaker 2>guard in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you take that two billion number, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, one in three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half people voting in the elect that is massive. South

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<v Speaker 1>Africa is particularly interesting for that new trend you've identified, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, So what happened there? There was just last

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<v Speaker 1>week or the week before, So what's happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So last week South Africans went to the polls

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<v Speaker 2>for new members of their parliament. They hold these elections

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<v Speaker 2>every five years, and just sixty percent of eligible voters

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<v Speaker 2>actually voted. They don't have mandatory votes like we do

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. And this ended up being a really historic

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<v Speaker 2>election because it's the first time since aparthe'd ended thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago that the African National Congress, which we'll call

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<v Speaker 2>the ANC, the party of Nelson Mandela, lost its majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever a party loses power after that many decades, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big move and it certainly shakes things up in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. For those of us who aren't as familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with apartheid, that term you mentioned before, and why the

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<v Speaker 1>ANC has become so powerful, give me a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>how he got here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, throughout much of the twentieth century, South Africa

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<v Speaker 2>separated people based on race under a.

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<v Speaker 3>Policy, a set of laws called apartheid.

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<v Speaker 2>The government passed laws limiting non white people's movements, education, jobs, pay, marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all kind of civil very much pretty much everything, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I should say limited it or banned outright, all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. And the ANC were instrumental in bringing

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<v Speaker 2>about the end of apartheid. They opposed it literally from

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<v Speaker 2>day one, initially with nonviolent protests including marches and deliberate

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<v Speaker 2>violations of the rules, so black South Africans going to

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<v Speaker 2>whites only places and spaces and refusing to carry these

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<v Speaker 2>movement passes, and many ANC leaders, including Nelson Mandela famously,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, were arrested and jailed. After many decades of

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<v Speaker 2>protest and upheaval, including the highly publicized release of Nelson

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<v Speaker 2>Mandela from prison after almost thirty years, the ANC won

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<v Speaker 2>the country's first modern elections in nineteen ninety four, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we consider the end of apartheid, and they secured

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<v Speaker 2>a massive sixty three percent of the votes. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>like an unheard of majority. If a party in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>got sixty three percent of the votes, there would be

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<v Speaker 2>like dancing in the streets like that just never happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that year's election, Mandela became the country's president.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go from nineteen ninety four this massive wave

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<v Speaker 1>of support for the ANC inspirational president in Nelson Mandela.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty years later, the ANC has been falling to much

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<v Speaker 1>lower numbers. What's changed.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big issues is the ANC's leader and

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<v Speaker 2>the past president hoping to become the president again. Cyril

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<v Speaker 2>Ramafosa he's a moderately controversial figure. I'd say he's faced

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<v Speaker 2>several criminal allegations, including tax evasion, which he's denied all

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<v Speaker 2>wrongdoing for In twenty twenty two, Parliament tried to impeach him,

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<v Speaker 2>so that.

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<v Speaker 1>They've heard that word before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, remove him from office, and that failed. Critics of

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<v Speaker 2>Ramafosa have said that he's actually not decisive enough, that

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't provided solutions to these really big kind of

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<v Speaker 2>society shaking issues that are present in South Africa and

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<v Speaker 2>that have really kind of only worsened over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>At his last campaign rally, reutter Is reported he said

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<v Speaker 2>he would do better. It's not the most compelling campaign's logo,

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<v Speaker 2>like please just give me one more chance, like very

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<v Speaker 2>social media.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, well you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Had thirty years, so you can understand why there's kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a shift and what issues are South Africans facing

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So the World Bank, which is a global financial body

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<v Speaker 2>aimed at limiting poverty, says South Africa has quote one

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<v Speaker 2>of the highest and most persistent inequality rates in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Unemployment is at thirty three percent. In Australia it's at

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<v Speaker 2>four percent. Crime rates are really high. The latest police

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<v Speaker 2>data that we have shows there was an average of

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<v Speaker 2>one murder every twenty minutes in the last three months

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<v Speaker 2>of last year. And there's been an energy crisis that's

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<v Speaker 2>seen to planned power adages called load shedding, become more frequent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's impacting businesses, impacting infrastructure, and certainly just impacting people's abilities.

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<v Speaker 3>To just live their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>To boil the kettle after eight pm is something like

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<v Speaker 2>a complaint that I see quite a lot online, the

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<v Speaker 2>way that it's really impacting people's lives. And all of

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<v Speaker 2>these issues really came up in the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>And so obviously people express their disappointment with the current

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<v Speaker 1>president at the polls. It's now a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>flux right in terms of who actually is in government.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens now, well, so South African voters elect the

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<v Speaker 2>parliament's MPs and then the MPs decide the president, very

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<v Speaker 2>much like our system, where you're not voting for Anthony Albanizi,

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<v Speaker 2>you're voting for your local member who then continues to

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<v Speaker 2>support the Prime minister and whoever gets a majority of

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<v Speaker 2>the votes of the MP's wins, So that's a the

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<v Speaker 2>whole parliament that's really the difference between Australia and South Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the A ANDC has previously had an outright majority

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<v Speaker 2>more than fifty percent of seats, they've always had the

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<v Speaker 2>power to choose the president. But this year, because they've

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<v Speaker 2>only got about forty percent of the votes, Ramafosa is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to negotiate with other parties if he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to stay on. And that's really all we know

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<v Speaker 2>for now. It's all really pending.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really interesting one and I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>idea of these long term leaders perhaps struggling more than

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<v Speaker 1>they thought they would at the polls in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four isn't unique to South Africa. We've also seen the

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<v Speaker 1>similar situation with Narendra Modi in India.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Modi is heading for a third term in much better

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<v Speaker 2>shape than Ramafosa is, but his party, the BJP, had

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<v Speaker 2>a big swing against them, and that actually went against

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty strong predictions, including I saw on Twitter this

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<v Speaker 2>morning one kind of election pollster actually crying on TV

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<v Speaker 2>because he'd got it wrong, really wrong. The BJP, so

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<v Speaker 2>Mody's party is part of a coalition called the National

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Alliance Together. That alliance won enough seats to govern.

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<v Speaker 2>They got two ninety that's enough to govern the five

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<v Speaker 2>d and forty three seat lower House. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>last election, the BJP by themselves, not in the alliance,

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<v Speaker 2>got over three hundred seats. So it's a big swing

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<v Speaker 2>against the government in India.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a win, but not a win that can

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<v Speaker 1>really be kind of stoked with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, although Mody certainly has been pretty stoked publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how could you not. He said, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a victory. He said, this is a feat of democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Other South Asian leaders have congratulated him. He's still in power,

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<v Speaker 2>but his position is a lot shakier than it was

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<v Speaker 2>the last time Indians.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to the election.

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<v Speaker 1>That turn of frase feet of democracy is interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>they are actually the largest democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right yes, the largest country and the largest democracy. Almost

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<v Speaker 2>a billion people voted.

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<v Speaker 1>Over six We think of the paper I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think of the they have actually like these

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<v Speaker 2>electronic voting machines. According to Indian law, a polling center

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<v Speaker 2>must be within two kilometers of every home, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you live I mean, when you think about the geographic

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<v Speaker 2>sweep of India, elect from beaches to mountains, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Himalayas at the top. Like it's a huge geographic sweep

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<v Speaker 2>and there's people all throughout. It's not like Australia where

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<v Speaker 2>there's huge parts of the country that are unpopulated. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not true for India. So election officials have done things

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<v Speaker 2>like fly out in helicopters to reach people with these machines.

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<v Speaker 2>They've climbed mountains with these machines. They've like crossed rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a huge undertaking. So that's partly why the

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<v Speaker 2>voting takes place over six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty amazing image in your mind right now

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of literally carrying democracy across the country trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that everybody has its say exactly. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. It's also now likely going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>world's biggest ever democratic election, so so not going to

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<v Speaker 1>forget this. So we've gone through South Africa, then we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone to India, both of which have happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks, and now we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Central America. And Mexico's also held a history making election,

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<v Speaker 1>right that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Mexico has its first female president, climate scientist and

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<v Speaker 2>former Mexico City Mayor Claudia Shinbaum has become Mexico's first

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<v Speaker 2>female president, and her opponent, Sochi Galvez, is also a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Time that a woman has won an election in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>the US, or Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a huge moment for North America.

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<v Speaker 1>And where's Shine bound come from.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's from this leftist party called Marina, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the same as the outgoing president, whose name is Andres

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<v Speaker 2>Manuel Lopez Obrador.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing duo lingo Spanish lately.

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<v Speaker 2>He's known by his initials Amlo AMLUL, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Under that constitution in Mexico, presidents only get one six

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<v Speaker 2>year term, so he's out Shinebaum's in. But it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same party carrying over.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty interesting. You just get your one shot at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a nice long term to do what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>One I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>The next Yeah. Something that's come up a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>what I've read about the Mexican election is the violence

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<v Speaker 1>and the street violence. Has that been a big feature

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<v Speaker 1>of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Over thirty candidates are believed to have been murdered

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of this year's polls.

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<v Speaker 1>That is striking.

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<v Speaker 3>It's striking.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's according to Mexican organization Vote between Bullets, and

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<v Speaker 2>this election has been described as the country's bloodiest ever.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, a woman has become president

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<v Speaker 2>in a woman woman race, at the same time as

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<v Speaker 2>there's really high rates of violence and killings of women

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico. According to data cited by the United Nations,

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<v Speaker 2>ten women are killed every day by intimate partners and.

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<v Speaker 3>Family members in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really kind of remains to be seen what

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<v Speaker 2>Claudia Scheinbaumer can do about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's clearly inheriting a complex situation in that vein

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<v Speaker 1>what does she promised to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's promised to expand on her predecessor's policies, so

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<v Speaker 2>his social welfare program, expanding them to be a universal

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<v Speaker 2>pension for the elderly and a program that pays young

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<v Speaker 2>people for apprenticeships, and that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>she's trying to do to divert people out of violence

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<v Speaker 2>and out of like cartels. Basically interesting, and she's also

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<v Speaker 2>pledged to invest over two hundred and thirty eight billion pesos,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's Australian twenty billion dollars in renewable energy by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty. Obviously, being a climate scientist, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>her focus, but critics have questioned whether she can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of steer Mexico in that direction, steer her party away

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<v Speaker 2>from its fossil fuel past.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've had three major elections on three different continents

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks, and that kind of pace doesn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the rest of the year looking like?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can tell you what's happening right now, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that the European Parliament is holding their elections over

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<v Speaker 2>these couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>As in this weekend. Okay, wow, So that is that

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<v Speaker 1>a consonant wide election. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>In some ways, it's quite similar to like a national election. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>people go to the polling booths and they vote for

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<v Speaker 2>who they want to represent them, but this time at

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<v Speaker 2>a continental level. The European Parliament passes laws that affect

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who's in the European Union, and it also chooses

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<v Speaker 2>a president to oversee its activities and to represent the

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<v Speaker 2>EU at things like the G twenty or the G seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing to know is that EU countries

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<v Speaker 2>elect MPs based on the size of their population, so

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<v Speaker 2>Germans get to elect up to ninety six MPs in

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<v Speaker 2>the European Parliament, Malta gets six.

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<v Speaker 1>And the UK used to be a part of all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, but they brexit it and now they're heading

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<v Speaker 1>for only their second election in the post brexit era.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that, oh, I'm so excited by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Also exciting, and I haven't been able to get buy

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<v Speaker 1>in in the office for my excitement for the UK election.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's going to be interest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be so interesting. It's looking like a landslide.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety seven, the UK Labor Party had a

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<v Speaker 2>massive landslide. They were led by Tony Blair and it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of thought like, will we ever reach these

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<v Speaker 2>heights again. It's looking like the predictions are that this

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<v Speaker 2>year Labor is going to come back to power after

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen years of Conservative government and win even more seats

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<v Speaker 2>than they did in nineteen ninety seven. One prediction is

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<v Speaker 2>that they are going to win the second biggest majority

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<v Speaker 2>in UK parliament history.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, so a big reaction against the Tories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Current Tory Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has been campaigning in

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<v Speaker 2>his signature Adidas Sambas. But the polls are suggesting that

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<v Speaker 2>Opposition leader Kirstarma is going to kind of take control

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<v Speaker 2>when they go to the polls in July.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're now, like I think, about two weeks into

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<v Speaker 1>this UK campaign. Give me a sense of the types

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<v Speaker 1>of things being promised by the two major parties.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest story I would say is that Rishi Sunac

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<v Speaker 2>has promised if the Conservatives the Tories are re elected,

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<v Speaker 2>to institute mandatory national service for young people. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>options to either serve in the military or volunteer in

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<v Speaker 2>the community, but either way you have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Something really interesting one mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kiir Starmer wants to increase the pension and he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to introduce more oversight on government spending, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put in something like the Parliamentary Budget Office that we

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<v Speaker 2>have in Australia to make sure that UK citizens are

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<v Speaker 2>getting value for tax payer money, is what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of a government integrity angle there exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And just one last thing I'd like to say about

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<v Speaker 2>the UK election that is so interesting to me is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's kind of a battle of social class. Social

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<v Speaker 2>class is so important in the UK, it's really embedded

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<v Speaker 2>in the fabric of the country or countries. Conservative leader

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<v Speaker 2>Rishi Sunak grew up middle class with parents who immigrated

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<v Speaker 2>to the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>But then he attended a school that has its own.

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<v Speaker 2>Wikipedi year page with a list of over a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>notable people who attended this school going back to the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure it was very proper, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he became Prime Minister in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>a clip circulated of him filmed for TV as a

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<v Speaker 2>young man saying that he didn't have any working class friends.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, Keirs Starmer grew up working class.

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<v Speaker 2>He won entry to a private school by passing an examine,

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<v Speaker 2>then he got a scholarship, and his deputy leader, Angela Rayner,

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in public housing and had her first child

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<v Speaker 2>at sixteen. You really couldn't see two more different leaders

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<v Speaker 2>on paper, and so which is really interested to see

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<v Speaker 2>how it all plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard one other interesting thing that struck me about

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<v Speaker 1>the UK election. So there's this guy Nigel Faraj who

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<v Speaker 1>then is a leader of the third biggest party in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and that's called Reform. We put him on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram this week because he had a milkshake thrown in

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<v Speaker 1>his face. He's what you'd call the far right. He

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of He left the Tories because he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>more right wing policies than they were offering.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very pro Brexit. He was kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>face of the Leave campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting and so the suggestion from a couple of experts

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<v Speaker 1>I've read is that this national service policy is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a way for Rishi Sunak to tap into the

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<v Speaker 1>older generation of conservative voters who want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the kids do their hard work and serve their country,

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<v Speaker 1>who might be tempted to vote for Nigel Farage. And

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<v Speaker 1>it goes into this really interesting trend of these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of splintering movements where if they'd stuck together as a party,

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<v Speaker 1>they might win their majority or at least not lose

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<v Speaker 1>by as much. But because they're now splintering out, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fragments the vote as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're seeing that in a lot of places and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be really interesting to track that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of movement across the rest of this year's elections.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also an Australian link to the reform Nigel Farage's

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<v Speaker 1>reform Party Holly Valance. Holly Valance is the pinup girl

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<v Speaker 1>for the Reform Party, so she's going to have an

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<v Speaker 1>active role in the election. She of course was famous

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia for appearing on Neighbors. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're going to talk about the UK election more.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we've convinced everyone listening that this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting, so interesting. So we've got a bit of time.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll make sure that you come back on the pod

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<v Speaker 1>to give us more of the insights into what big

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<v Speaker 1>topics are coming out, but also then break down the results.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay tuned everybody. Lucy, thanks for joining us, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me Sam, And that is all we've got

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<v Speaker 1>time for this week on the Daily Os. We'll be

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