1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalist Kate 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: and Amy. On today's show, Sophie, Kasha and Mia Plastic 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: go their separate ways, Martha Califatitis is forced to return 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: home following a mystery illness, Tammy Hambrose thirty eight million 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: dollar fitness Empire, Kayla Astinas's baby name dilemma, and Instagram's 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: massive backflip. But first, we are recording in a brand 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: new studio today. And when I say studio, it's really 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: your home office, Amy, but it is looking so flash, 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: thank you, Sophie. It is a totally new podcast setup. 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: So I refurbished this old wooden table, so we've stripped 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: a back of bought new chairs. And my favorite thing 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: has to be this beautiful Neon sign. And the amazing 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: team at Custom Neon actually sent it to me their 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: listeners of the show and they heard me saying months 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: ago how it was my dream to have a Neon sign. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm pretty dirty on this because I have had 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: the podcast at my house for two years. My partner 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: has put up with a lot of yelling, screaming, upset, 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: anguish over it. And I arrived at your house to 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: see our new room with this incredible sign It is 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: out of this world. 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: It looks so professed. It really set the room up. 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: It has really set the room up, and everybody that's 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: come over to see the new house has remarked how 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: amazing it looks. And the cool thing is you can 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: get any logo you want done. I opt to just 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: have the cursive writing, but you can pick the colors. 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: It comes with a remote control so you can turn 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: it on and off. Well, ours is a signature bright 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: hot pink for our spoken It looks so cool. It 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: was funny because Amy had everyone over for Christmas in 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: July and she was doing a tour of the house 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: and of course took everyone through the office and everyone's like, oh, 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: it's so cool. So this is where the podcast is recorded, 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: and Sophie's just seething because it's actually been at her 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: house probably for the last couple of years. Now. 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, it feels very. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Old school to be recording at your house, Amy, because 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: we initially did start our podcast at your old house, 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: and I got a memory that popped up last week 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: and it said that we have officially had our podcast 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: now for three years, thank God. And just a fun 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: fact for all of the OG listeners, we have not 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: taken one week break. So we have We've almost hit 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: three hundred episodes and what a flair. There has not 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: been one week that we have not done this show. 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: It sounds like you're just about to announce it. We're 50 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: going on holidays and we will be taking a five 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: week breaknow we will not be break now, Sophie, I 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to add, I know you're very jealous of 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: this Neon sign, so you might want to jump at 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: this opportunity. So the team at Custom Neon they're giving 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: listeners fifteen percent off. So if you go on to 56 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: their Instagram account, which is at custom Neon, click on 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: their website, you can find all the details about their signs. 58 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: So the code is outspoken fifteen Hi. 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm Miya, the founder of Slick Care Company. 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: Rumors are swelling of a growing rift between former business 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: partners Sophie Keasha and Miya Plasic. Now, Sophie, you need 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: to talk us what has gone. 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Down with his friendship breakdown? 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to take you back to the start 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: of the year, because it was back in February when 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Sophie and Miya announced they were launching a gender neutral 67 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: cosmetic brand together called Asuru. Now, for some background details, 68 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Sophie is a former mummy blogger turned entrepreneur who runs 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: a successful pajama brand called Kasha as for Me. She 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: is the founder and CEO of Slick Hair Company, and 71 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: she is a serial business owner. Now, listeners may remember 72 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: the infamous quality control incident which saw Asuu's launch get 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of attention for all the wrong reasons. And 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I also saw Sophia Kesha blast our podcast's discussing it. 75 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I actually can't believe it was February. 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: It seems like it wasn't that long ago. 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Time is just flying well and due for another blasting suit. 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: That's right, it might follow this segment. 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: Now, Sophie did share an Instagram story of herself at 80 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the time a quality testing lipsticks before they were packed 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: and shipped. In the video, she explained that she was 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: individually going through ten thousand lipsticks to ensure there were 83 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: no duds. Now, in the vision, Sophie was not wearing 84 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: a mask, gloves, or hairnet and was seen wiping her 85 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: nose with a lipstick in her hand. Ironically, the video 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: is captioned something I learned from my business partner at 87 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Kaisha is the importance of quality control. Now, the video 88 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: did receive a lot of backlash, as I mentioned, with 89 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: many people saying it was a safety breach. 90 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: Now, as I said, Amy. 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: The video has caused a lot of backlash and negative 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: attention around the brand. 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: Now they're all caught up. 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Let's dive into Sophie's most recent post. So Sophie broke 95 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the news to her followers that she is now the 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: sole owner of Issuu. She shared a photo of herself 97 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: in a striking blue dress, which, for those playing at home, 98 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: is Issuu's brand of color. Very good branding there. In 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: the caption, she thanked her customers for their patients and 100 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: confirmed that all sale orders have been processed and shipped 101 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: to date. She then used the post as an opportunity 102 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: to say she is now a one woman show and 103 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: that she spent the weekend packing the orders. I really 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: hope she had some gloves on her own. 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: That's all I been saying when she was packing here. 106 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I hope, So Sophie then went on to say 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: she would be continuing the Christmas in July sale and 108 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: that all prices are marked down online. Now. When we 109 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: announced the business pairing in February, I was very surprised 110 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: at the time, as Sophie had tried to distance herself 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: from mea publicly after she shared Anti Vac's views at 112 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: the peak of the pandemic. And it definitely appears that 113 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: something major has gone down as the pair no longer 114 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: followed one another on Instagram. Yeah, Mia has even removed 115 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: I surou from her Instagram bio and no longer follows 116 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: the business page. 117 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: I think that says it. 118 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: All, really Yeah, Well, she doesn't have a good track 119 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: record when it comes to falling out with influencers or 120 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: business partners. Many people first came to know about Mia 121 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: when she started out as beauty influencer Michael Finch's manager. 122 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Now we don't know exactly what went on, but it 123 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: doesn't appear to have ended amicably, with the pair no 124 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: longer following one another. Now, a similar thing happened with 125 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: The Bachelor's Ki at Maguire. She appeared to have a 126 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: very close relationship with Meat, which also came to an 127 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: abrupt end when the pair unfollowed one another on social media, 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: and I think we all know and unfollow is basically 129 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: this is the end of the friendship. Fuck you, I'm 130 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: not supporting you anymore. 131 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's a. 132 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Public way to say we are not friends. 133 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: The thing is, is anyone surprised? I mean both of 135 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: them have huge personalities. I could just imagine the arguments 136 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: between the pair. I feel like each of them must 137 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: be blaming each other for the bad publicity. Like it's like, Sophie, 138 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: don't say this, No, Miya, you're the one. 139 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: That's creating bad publicity around this. 140 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Or from personal experience, when you do run a two 141 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: person business, there's always going to be a fight for 142 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: control and who's the boss. And I feel like it 143 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: would have been a bit of a dick swinging competition. 144 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I've got this successful business, so my business is more successful. 145 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: They're both big personalities. 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Well, there is speculation that things ended after me as 147 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: most recent controversy where she compared roe Vers Wade two 148 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates, and this was first fueled by MIA's partner 149 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Justin campaigning for Clive Palmer's United Party. So it appears 150 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: that Sophie and Mia have very different political views, which 151 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: may have caused problems. 152 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to give it to her. 153 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Sophie is very clever, and she knows that she needs 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: to protect her brand, and I think maybe she realizes 155 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: she made a mistake by doing a joint venture with 156 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Mia when she already had such a bad public track record. 157 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: To me, Mia also seems like a bit of a 158 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: liability and one that Sophie would like to distance herself 159 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: from in this instance. I'm actually team Sophie, so am I. 160 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's quite obvious that these two aren't my 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: favorite people in the world, but I don't think that Mia, 162 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: plus it would be the most easy person to run 163 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: a business with. And I do also think that there 164 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: might be signs that this feud or rift or whatever 165 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: it is could be to do with the fact that 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: perhaps the brand is struggling. It appears that they might 167 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: be trying to get rid of old stock at the moment, 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: considering they're doing a bunch of random Christmas in July 169 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: sales and that sale has now been extended, so perhaps 170 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: there wasn't enough revenue to be paying both partners correctly, 171 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: or you know, they didn't it wasn't worth investing both 172 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: of their time in it. And if you look at 173 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: both of their businesses, I mean, Sophie has been running 174 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Keisha Pajama successfully for a number of years, whereas Mea 175 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: seems to jump from product to product. Obviously she's had 176 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: great success with Slickstick, but it just seems like maybe 177 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: this was just one business that couldn't be run successfully 178 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: as a joint business. Well, especially when you consider me 179 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: A's partners very controversial political views. It doesn't really align 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: well with a gender neutral makeup brand. It seems very 181 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: against what Mia and Justin stand for. All Right. Something 182 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: about the UK that has blown my mind is all 183 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: their takeout restaurants think like McDonald's, KFC, Burger King, all 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: of their takeout restaurants alike restaurants here. Beauty influencer Martha 185 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Califatitas has been forced to cut her European stay short 186 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: after falling ill with a viral infection. The former Math 187 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Style returned home to Australia with her fiance Michael Brunelli, 188 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: with fans growing increasingly concerned by her online absence. So 189 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: what is going on with Martha? Well, Speculation about Martha's 190 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: well being was first sparked when she didn't appear on 191 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 1: social media for a week, and it is highly unusual 192 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: for the influencer who does make a living off the 193 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: platform and who has been sharing her travels around Europe. Now. 194 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Martha revealed on her Instagram story that she had been 195 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: bedridden for a few weeks but is finally back home 196 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: getting the care that she needs. Michael then confirmed the 197 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: pair were back with family in Melbourne a month earlier 198 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: than planned. He wrote on Instagram, cut our trip short, 199 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: but that's life, So we came back a month early 200 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: to be around family and more comfortable at home. Was 201 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: it the ideal way to end our trip? No, but 202 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: we had an amazing three months overseas, experiencing different cultures, relaxing, 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: having fun and seeing friends and fighting over soundies. That's right, 204 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: something we are both truly appreciative and grateful for. He 205 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: then added that not trips go entirely to plan, but 206 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: that's just life. We aren't getting caught up in the 207 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: wadiffs because it doesn't serve us. Health is a priority 208 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: above all else and that's what led us home. He 209 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: then went on to promise those who were worried about 210 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Martha that she was going to be okay. Now, Michael 211 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: created headlines earlier this year when he broke the news 212 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: to his followers that he and Martha were moving to Europe. 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: Now it all got very awkward because it turned out 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: that they actually weren't moving, They were just having an 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: extended trip. So a lot of his family members were 216 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: freaking out because they didn't even know about the trip 217 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: and they're all like. 218 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: What the hell is going on, Michael. 219 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing there is that Michael said that 220 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: he packed up their house and basically put all of 221 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: their belongings into storage, and they were renting at the time. 222 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: So I do wonder if they have a house to 223 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: return home too, because considering the trip was cut a 224 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: month short, it might have been something they were leaving 225 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: till the end of their trip, and it would be 226 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: so awful to be feeling unwell and not have a safe, 227 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: familiar spot to go to. I mean, hopefully she is 228 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: staying with her family or Michael's family. Yeah, and photos 229 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: have emerged that actually show just how debilitating this virus 230 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: is for Martha. So she was spotted in a wheelchair 231 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: whilst waiting to board a flight in Athens and Michael 232 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: has also shared photos of Martha back in Australia with 233 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: her family, and in the photos, Martha is lying exhausted 234 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: on the table whilst next to her grandmother. Michael captured 235 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: the photo yayah. 236 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: Can fix anything. 237 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: Well, we just wish Martha a speedy recovery. It's horrible 238 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: to see her not well. Hopefully she's back to her 239 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: vivacious self and her and Michael are sharing their arguments 240 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: very soon because I very much enjoyed them, Like. 241 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: I feel like every year has a new energy, and 242 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: I feel like this year is really about like the 243 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: year of just realizing stuff and everyone around me were 244 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: I'll just like realizing things twenty sixteen. 245 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: Let him go now. 246 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: A few of us doubted the power of Kylie Jenner 247 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: last week when we discussed how the billionaire had thrown 248 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: her support behind they make Instagram Instagram Again campaign. So 249 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: over the last few weeks, the social media app has 250 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: been rolling out some controversial changes, which include full screen 251 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: photos and videos that mimic TikTok and the introduction of 252 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: recommended posts, But it appears the celebrity power of Kylie 253 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Jenner has forced Instagram to backflip Sophie, what have Instagram 254 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: said well. Head of Instagram Adam Missouri address the changes 255 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: on his own Instagram account. He confirmed that the full 256 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: screen mode was not good yet and said the team 257 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: is going to have to get it in a good 258 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: place if it's going to be rolled out worldwide. He 259 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: also addressed concerns over Instagram moving away from photos and 260 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: towards video content. He acknowledged there was a shift of 261 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: people sharing and consuming videos over photos, and as a result, 262 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Instagram needed to lean more towards this. He was quick 263 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: to defend Instagram's recommended posts, telling users that it is 264 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: a great way of helping creators reach more people. Now, 265 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: this does make a lot of sense when you see 266 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: all of these people blowing up on TikTok, because so 267 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: many people have said, look, I'm not bothering with Instagram 268 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: because the reach is just so much greater on TikTok. Yeah, 269 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the organic reach seems to be incredible on TikTok and 270 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: people actually are being able to be discovered, whereas on 271 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: Instagram it does seem to be a lot harder to 272 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: actually grow a legitimate following. And I have noticed this 273 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: past week. This is really sad, but I have two rabbits. 274 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I literally clicked on one rabbit post, and everything recommended 275 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: to me in my feed has been cute rabbits to follow, 276 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: So it is really trying to mimic that TikTok algorithm 277 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: that serves up all the content you want to see. Now, 278 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: it is going to take about two weeks until these 279 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: full screens are removed completely from Instagram. I mean, good 280 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: rittance get rid of them now. 281 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: However, it does sound like they're going to bring them back. 282 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: I like how it's like, oh, they're not good enough yet, 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: but it's people don't want the same thing, people don't 284 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: want the same platform. Well, I'm actually kind of surprised 285 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: that they have backflipped because it shows they don't really 286 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: have confidence in the product. And I also wondered if 287 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: maybe Instagram had received stats showing usage was down due 288 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: to these changes. The thing is, though, you've got to 289 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: applaud Instagram for listening, because obviously what they were doing 290 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: is a test, and the test very much failed. So 291 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad that they're actually taking people's feedback on board, 292 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: particularly Kylie Jenner, who has been a trailblazer at getting 293 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Instagram back to being good. 294 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Again, Hi Eeman's house. 295 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: What trying to call It's in is here and today 296 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm taking you through a little fridge tour. As predicted, 297 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Kayla Aestinas has already started rolling out the pregnancy content 298 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: and I am here for it. On Thursday night, Kayla 299 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: shared a video of her and Jay breaking the pregnancy 300 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: news to their friends and family, and it was pretty 301 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: funny because underneath the video post, Kayla's sister Leah wrote, 302 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: ha ha ha ha, thank you for not putting the 303 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: twenty minutes of audio before you told us woo who baby? 304 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Kayleb then replied saying, walked in to tell Leah and 305 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Mitch dot dot dot. First thing they say? Can I 306 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: say something? Don't have fucking kids? Just wait a bit, 307 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: enjoy life. 308 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: It's so hard. I need sleep. 309 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: This is nuts. I feel like, if you guys want 310 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: to have kids, just like wait until you finish traveling, 311 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, just don't dot dot dot. Anyways, what were 312 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: you guys gonna say? 313 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: I feel like this would be. 314 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: A conversation that we'd have and then it'd sort of 315 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: be like, oh, like imagine having to have the fake 316 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: like wow reaction. 317 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: After the thing is. 318 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Leah has got a newborn, so she's obviously in that 319 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: newborn phase where she is just craving sleep. It was 320 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: quite interesting because in the comments, Kayla also revealed that 321 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: she has filmed Jay's reaction for her sharing the baby 322 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: news and she was going to be sharing that soon. 323 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: So it does seem like she is making a real 324 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: deliberate effort to actually share more about her pregnancy. Yeah, 325 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: and on Saturday, she also shared a post on her 326 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: Instagram feed thanking her followers for their support, and she added, 327 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: when I look back at my pregnancy with Anna, I 328 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: wish I had shared more about my experience. 329 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: This time around is so different. 330 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I feel amazing, and I've already filmed so much of 331 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: my journey up until this point and can't wait to 332 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: share it with you alongside my usual trainer content. Of course, 333 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: it does make a lot of sense because this is 334 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: the type of content that is so relatable. This is 335 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: going to help Kayla's brand. I think, as we've mentioned 336 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: previously on podcasts, there has been a real shift in 337 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: the whole Kayla Estina's brand. I think it does put 338 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: a spotlight on you. At the same time, they particularly 339 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: fitness influences. We've seen it with Tammy Hembro and Sarah's Day. 340 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how once she has the 341 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: baby had delicately she does go back into fitness and 342 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: whether she does. I know she does have a pregnancy 343 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: program already, but yeah, it will be interesting to see 344 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: what happens after. It cracked me up because on Friday's 345 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: episode we were talking about potential baby names, and then 346 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend, Kayla did a call out for baby 347 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: boy name suggestions, starting with Jay, and she explained that 348 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: she's convinced she's having a boy because she felt terrible 349 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: when she was pregnant with Anna, but this time around 350 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: it's fine, so she's thinking maybe gender related now. Kayla 351 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: went on to say that she was thinking a j 352 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: name if it's a boy, because Jay and his dad 353 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: both have the initials JSW. She then followed up with 354 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: a question box asking for girls names just in case. 355 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: She said she was looking for a girl's name with 356 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: the same vibe as Anna. So Amy, perhaps you should 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: go and suggest Mia. Yeah definitely. So what name are 358 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: we thinking with Jay? Like James is a bit generic. 359 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: I like the name, but I do love the name Jack. 360 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: But I think that's to see I think Jack's like 361 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: Jax is more the modern version, so maybe jackson Anna 362 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: or Jack's the spelling of the of the contestant Love 363 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: Island Ja fancy And Yeah, I think it's quite clear 364 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: that this trend of Kayla sharing her updates is going 365 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: to stay because on Monday, Kayla even put up a 366 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: poll asking people to guess the gender of her baby. 367 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that there is going to be a gender 368 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: reveal video happening very soon on an Instagram account. 369 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: To morning everybody because of school, So I'm going to 370 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: go make them breakfast and then I'm going to get 371 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: ready for the day. 372 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Tammy Hambro has opened up about how she's built her 373 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollar fortune on the Financial Reviews podcast 374 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: This Is How I Made It. It was a very 375 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: interesting listen. But before we get into what Tammy said, 376 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: is anyone else shocked at how rich Tammy Hembro is. Yes, 377 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy how much money there is to be made 378 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: in the health and fitness space at the moment. So 379 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: The Australian Financial Review recently updated their Young Rich List 380 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two, where they rank Australia's top young 381 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: earners under forty for the year. While it was rather 382 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: a depressing read for those of us who are not 383 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: raking in those kind of paychecks, it was great to 384 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: see so many young female entrepreneurs killing it. Now on 385 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: top of the Influencer Slash Female Entrepreneur list was Jessica 386 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: Seppel and her partner Dean stein Goold, who owned supplement 387 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: company JS Health. Now, they jointly sat in twenty fourth 388 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: place with a staggering four hundred and twenty six million dollars. Wow, 389 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I buy those pills. They are 390 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: quite of expensive. 391 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh bloody very good. 392 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Shall we also just start up for Health and Wellness Venture. 393 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's switch to health and fitness podcast instead. It's bloody tempting. 394 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: So next was Kayla at Senas, who was ranked in 395 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: thirty ninth position with one hundred and sixty four million dollars. 396 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: So her wealth has been split in two since her 397 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: and Toby Pierce have broken up, so he sat beneath 398 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: her with the same estimated wealth. Now, I was personally 399 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: surprised to see that Emily sky Fit was in sixty 400 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: first position with ninety five million dollars. Now, I'm not 401 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: trying to discredit her success, but she only has two 402 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: point seven million followers compared to the likes of Kayla 403 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: at Senus who has fourteen point nine million, and Tammy 404 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: Hembro who has fifteen point four million. So she is 405 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: doing bloody well, Yeah, she is. I think I think 406 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: it comes as a surprise because she's so relatable and 407 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily put her fit here in that same 408 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: category as having that much money. And I'm sure that's 409 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: a strategic move by all of them, because who wants 410 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: to ostracize their followers by saying, Hey, I'm worth so 411 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: much more than any of you. And also sometimes it's 412 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: followers don't equate to more money. It's like your engagement 413 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: and how much love you. Yeah. So as for Tammy, 414 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, she is estimated to have a thirty 415 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: eight million dollar fortune, which put her in ninety six position. 416 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: Then steph class Smith rounded off the list in position 417 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: one hundred with thirty six million dollars to her name. 418 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: It's funny because now that you've said that jess Seppel 419 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: has over four hundred million dollars, thirty eight meal sounds 420 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: a bit stingy. Now you're like, oh, I'm not doing 421 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: as well. 422 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: Sure, all of these people who are in this rich list. 423 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys, Sophie, so you and Kate, 424 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: you're supporting them. 425 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: You have js hell, you're supporting it female entrepreneur. 426 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, isn't that crazy They've funded their lifestyle, 427 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: well some of it. I'm just saying, this is how 428 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: popular these these people are. They're able to be so 429 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: relatable and that you want to buy their products and 430 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: you want to support them, and then the products are 431 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: so good as well, tenued to buy them. Well, hats 432 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: off to Steph Claire Smith. She's got thirty six Meal 433 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: but she still had a run of the Meal Kids 434 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: party where she made a cake. Ah, she should have 435 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: had a few more balloons. Well, just to put those 436 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: figures into perspective, because all of that money sounds crazy 437 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: to me. Back in nineteen eighty three, when the AFR 438 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: started tracking Australia's richest people, the wealth of the country's 439 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: two hundred richest people was a combined to four point 440 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: seven billion dollars. Now, nearly forty years on, the total 441 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: value of Australia's two hundred richest people sits at four 442 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine point six billion dollars, so you 443 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: can see how much people are now making compared to 444 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: forty years ago. And you can see a lot of 445 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: those people on that list are self made. They are 446 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: they own their own business, they're entrepreneurs and it's incredible. 447 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: It is amazing to see how many of those people 448 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: are women. It would be interesting to compare the ratio 449 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: of women compared to the old list forty years ago. 450 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm curious. 451 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows the answer to this. 452 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: Is this their gross in Yes, it would be their 453 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: gross income, their total net worth. It does make more 454 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: sense because I have heard different agents talking about this 455 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: rich list and they were saying that sometimes people's PR 456 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: teams will actually make the amount they've earned sound a 457 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: lot higher because it's actually good PR for them to 458 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: be on this list seeming more successful. Yeah. The thing is, 459 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: when I was looking at the names, I felt like 460 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: there were a few of Australia's top fitness influences that 461 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: were missing. So Sarah's Day and Ashy Binds really stuck 462 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: out to me because they have all had fitness guides 463 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: like eat books, and they also now have apps that 464 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: obviously are where the money making is at. And it's 465 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: quite clear that Sarah's doing well for herself. She recently 466 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: splashed out at Christmas time and bought her husband a 467 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollar boat. She also bought her dad 468 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: and Aston Martin, and to me, that is the behavior 469 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: of a very wealthy woman. So again, I was also 470 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: wondering what the process to get on the list is 471 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: because I think, well, I'm guessing you have to approve 472 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: your being mentioned. So it seems like some influencers obviously 473 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: see it as a way to actually validate them as 474 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: business women and entrepreneurs, whereas others maybe feel like they 475 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: don't want that information out there because it no longer 476 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: makes them relatable. 477 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. 478 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: There is obviously some jealousy that comes with seeing how 479 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: much some of these fitness influences are worth, but it 480 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: is also very inspiring at the same time, and I 481 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: think that it shows these women of very intelligent entrepreneurs 482 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: and business people that do deserve respect in the industry. 483 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. 484 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: Now back to Tammy's interview on the AFR podcast. The 485 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: most interesting part for me was when she spoke about 486 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: taking an entrepreneurship class as a part of her business degree. 487 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: At Bonde University. Now, firstly, I didn't even know she 488 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: was studying business at UNI, so she said it was 489 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: at that moment she decided that she wanted to be 490 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: her own boss and start a business. Tammy said that 491 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: the entrepreneurship class was the only class that made sense 492 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: to her, and she ended up dropping out of UNI 493 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: because she felt like she wasn't getting anything out of 494 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: the other classes. Now, I feel like that quote is 495 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: a bit truggering for people like us that have grown 496 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: up with UNI being pushed as the only pathway to success. 497 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: Clearly that's not the case because most of the people 498 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: that we spoke about just before that are on the 499 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: Young Rich List. I don't think went to UNI, or 500 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: I don't think that they particularly. I don't think you 501 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: necessarily need to go to university to be a success. 502 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: I think that it's good to have a university degree 503 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: to try and get your dream job. But as you 504 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: can see, anybody really can run a business if you've 505 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: got a good idea and. 506 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: Some general knowledge. 507 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: Well. I think the AFAR with their podcast is trying 508 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: to show young people that there's so many different avenues 509 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: to success. You don't have to go down the traditional 510 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: path of going to university. Oh, exactly right, That's what 511 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I meant, because you know, we all grew up thinking 512 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: that the only way to success is going to UNI, 513 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: and it's so far from the truth these days, with 514 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: people having the ability with the Internet to start their 515 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: own business and also creating their own personal reach. Now, 516 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: another part of the interview that I found really fascinating 517 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: was when Tammy spoke about her original fitness guides. So 518 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: back in the day when Instagram was relatively new, exercise 519 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: ebooks were. 520 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: All the rage. 521 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: Now this was, of course, until some smart person realized 522 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: that ebooks are a one off payment, whereas an app 523 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: is going to create ongoing payments. So the first thing 524 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: Tammy marketed to her Instagram followers was her ebook, which 525 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: she said she started with an initial investment of just 526 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars, so the money was spent paying someone 527 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: to illustrate the exercises of the program. Now, Tammy says 528 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: she went through a process of continually elevating the guides 529 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: until they turned into the Tammy Fit app. It hasn't 530 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: always been smooth sailing though for Tammy. She revealed in 531 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: the interview that she ended up trusting people she shouldn't have, 532 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: She explained. A supplier to the app ended up taking advantage. 533 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: She said, I didn't really know better at the time, 534 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: but I got taken advantage of and actually ended up 535 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: wasting a lot of money, like hundreds of thousands of dollars. 536 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: She said the experience made her take precautions. 537 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 2: Unfortunately. 538 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: What I've learned from that is to take precautions and 539 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: triple and double check things. If you're not an expert 540 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: in something, consult with someone that is like a third 541 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: party that could maybe let you know this person is 542 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: taking advantage of you. I did notice during the interview 543 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: that Tammy did the typical female thing and didn't give 544 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: herself full credit for her success, So she said, I 545 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: think timing did help a lot in my situation. I 546 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: got in there at a really good time. Instagram is 547 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: so saturated now it's a lot of people trying to 548 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: do the same sort of thing, whereas when I started, 549 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't really see anyone doing what I was trying 550 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: to do. And I think Tammy is selling herself very 551 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: short here, because that's exactly what entrepreneurs do. They see 552 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: a gap in the market and feel it and I 553 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: do think people need to give OG influences the credit 554 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: they deserve. Of course, it was a lot easier back 555 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: then to grow your following organically, but influencers really did 556 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: pave the way. I mean, they essentially created a completely 557 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: new industry of marketing, that being influencing, and that is 558 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: the reason why so many of these OG influencers are 559 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: reaping the benefits so heavily. Now, really, yeah, you never 560 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: did give a shit about me, and I actually don't 561 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: give well. Now that we're all up to date on 562 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: all of the influencer gos, we will be changing things 563 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: up on Friday as a bit of a one off 564 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: because we are going to be at a conference for 565 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: three days for part of our work with our agency 566 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Amy So. Yes, So we have decided to answer all 567 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: of your anonymous questions finally that you're sent in part 568 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: of the n g L link, and we are going 569 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: to give you the opportunity today to send in any 570 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: more juicy questions. They can be influencer related, they can 571 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: be about the podcast, anything juicy, send it into us. 572 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: We will also be answering questions about ourselves and I've 573 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: had a look and they're ask some quite personal questions, 574 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: so it'll be a bit of a laugh on Friday. Now, 575 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: just before we go, today's podcast was recorded in the 576 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. 577 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present. We will 578 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: see everyone on Friday