1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Put on your dance and shit, don't give me your 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: best shuh. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: From Momama dot com dot au, Emma Gillespie is here. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: The top question Kim Katrell, Sex and the City. How 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: much poop pie did she have to eat? 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: I know you've been losing sleep over this way. I 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: don't think it's a matter of her having to eat 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: poop pie? 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 4: Was it? 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Because No? 11 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 4: I think she's getting paid quite nicely. But this is 12 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 4: Kim Cottrell, the queen of boundaries, I think, so she 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 4: doesn't do anything she doesn't want to do, so I 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 4: don't think necessarily this is on anyone else's. 15 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Terms but her own. 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 4: But you're right, she's back by popular demand for one 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 4: scene only. 18 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: COO's demand, the audience's demand. 19 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the audience's demand. So, and just like 20 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: that is the name of the Sex and the City 21 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: spin off. We had a season of it just over 22 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: a year ago. 23 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Any good. I didn't see it. 24 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: I loved it, but big fans of Kim Cattrall's character, 25 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: Samantha Jones didn't love it because she wasn't there, and 26 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: it's the dynamic was certainly thrown and they tried. 27 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: To sort of pat it out with other characters and other. 28 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 4: Interesting people and storylines, but it was a pretty gaping hole, 29 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: and they left the door open. The character of Samantha 30 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: Jones was kind of in the show as someone that 31 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: Carrie Bradshaw, Sarah Jessica Parker's character was texting throughout the show, 32 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: so there was a little bit of a glimmer of 33 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: hope that the door might be open. 34 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: It's like Iceman in Top Gun Maverick, you know how 35 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise or you know Maverick and Iceman. 36 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I actually get that reference. Sometimes Jonesy makes references and 37 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: I just don't know, what. 38 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: Is this about my sacrificial thing. 39 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I've still dont understo. 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: People are loving it. 41 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Do we need to go back to where it all began? 42 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 3: In the fight? 43 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: What happened? 44 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: So Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim katrall have this infamous feud, 45 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: like they just loathe each other allegedly, and it all 46 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: happened towards the end of the Sex and the City 47 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: series on television, the HBO show, which finished into two 48 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: thousand and four, and then there were two movies. But 49 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: it had sort of been well known that there was 50 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: a Frosty relationship between SJP and Kim Katrall for some time, 51 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: as well as Michael Patrick King, who is the showrunner. 52 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: So Michael Patrick King and Sarah Jessica are on their 53 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: team and then Kim Katrall is like enemy territory. But 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 4: it played out quite publicly when they were going to 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: make a third Sex in the City movie. And I 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: don't know if you've seen the second Sex in the 57 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: City movie, not amazing, not critically acclaimed, pretty low. 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: Rating on Rotten Tomatoes, I believe, not good. 59 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: Kim Cottrell was apparently furious with sort of how her 60 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: character Samantha was beginning to be portrayed, and in the 61 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: script for the third movie, which was all set to 62 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: go ahead, she hated what they did to Samantha Jones 63 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: character and she said, nah, I'm done, I'm out, And 64 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: she just wanted to do something different. 65 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: So what did they actually do to a character because 66 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: she seemed to have no scruples or anything. 67 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: Well, I think Samantha is the character that has the 68 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: most sex. It's Sex and the City and Samantha is 69 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: the serial single. It doesn't fall for any of the 70 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: bs of romance, doesn't need a man independent icon, and 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: she loves sex. That's her whole brand, and I think 72 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: maybe because she's a little bit older than the other characters. 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: She's sixty six now, I think the other three women 74 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: are in their late fifties, but on the show, Samantha 75 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: is probably portrayers at least ten years older than the 76 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: other characters. And I'm just not sure if this is 77 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: actually what happened, but I suspect that it was that 78 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: she was that older character and they just sort of 79 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: put her in this box of the only sort of 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: value that you bring to the show is that you 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: have lots of sex, and maybe she. 82 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Just wanted more dead I got to be more than sex. 83 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So, I mean sadly, ironically, she left the 84 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: franchise altogether to focus on other projects, none of them 85 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: have really succeeded or taken off. But she is coming 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: back for one scene only, but it's not. 87 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Really as we think. 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: She won't have to see you'll speak to any of 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: the other characters, which was sort of the rules the conditions. 90 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: She is in one scene on a phone call to 91 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: carry so she's apparently in a car. It was so 92 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: top secret that the people on set, the crew, everyone, 93 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: no one knew who they were lighting this scene for 94 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: who they were going to be filming, and then in 95 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: walks Kim Katrall for this one scene on a phone. 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: It's the last episode of season two. 97 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 4: I think what will happen is she's going to be 98 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: maybe coming back to New York. 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: So she lives in London at the moment, that's what we've. 100 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: Been told her character maybe she's in a car in 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: New York, calls Carrie and she's like, I'm here. 102 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: How do you, as a fan of the show, meaning 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: you not me, I don't mind the show, but you're 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: a watcher of the show knowing about the feud. When 105 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 3: you see this scene where you go, yeah, they're talking 106 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: to each other, we just go, that's so I can't 107 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: get past the real story. 108 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: I think when I watch it looking back, I do 109 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: feel this sort of sense of you're aware of it 110 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: all the time that they hate each other, But weirdly enough, 111 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: it kind of makes it more impressive to me that 112 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: they're professional enough or good enough at their jobs to 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: be in the room with each other. Have these really 114 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: candid scenes, really intimate moments, convince us that they have 115 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 4: a beautiful friendship, when really, as soon as the cameras 116 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: are turned off. 117 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: They don't talk to each other. But no one really 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: thought this would ever happen. 119 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two, Kim Katrall said that she found 120 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: out about the spin off and just like that from 121 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: social media that she wasn't approached, She wasn't even asked. 122 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: And people said to Sarah Jessica, you know, why didn't 123 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: you ask her? And she said, well, why would I 124 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: ask her? She was never going to say yes, and 125 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: there's there's too much that's gone down. 126 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: So she was never going to be included. 127 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: No. 128 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: No, it's got a bit of after Mash vibes. Remember 129 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: Mash Mash wrapped up and then they had it, Well, 130 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: I remember Mash so much like so after Mesh they 131 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: did a thing with after and it's a BJ honeycut 132 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: Clinger and the father Mulcaye showbags, they showbacks and I'm going, 133 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: what so it's exactly the same thing. 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's thank you for saying because I had that 135 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: next in my note, that thing about Mash my favorite show. 136 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: Now it's a sacrificial annotes. 137 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: Thank you, dear, thank you, thank. 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: You, okay to reminding me dot com do I talk 139 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: to you next week? In