Speaker 1: So I packed up that black bag had the beers
Speaker 1: in one hand. The black bag had the two ring
Speaker 1: lights sticking out, and I was like pacing down the
Speaker 1: stairs and this guy standing there and he's just like,
Speaker 1: I got to have some fun.
Speaker 2: You're like, what of it? I'm an only fans model.
Speaker 1: Okay, Welcome back to two doting dads. I am Maddie
Speaker 1: Jay and I'm Ash And this is a podcast that's
Speaker 1: all about parenting. It's a good, the.
Speaker 2: Bad, and the relatable.
Speaker 1: And as I look out Ash to the horizon across
Speaker 1: the vast ocean.
Speaker 2: And I were upstairs before and I was like, it's windy.
Speaker 2: It's like and then I look around It's like we're
Speaker 2: in the middle of the fucking ocean. So no shit,
Speaker 2: it's windy.
Speaker 1: They are coming to you from a cruise.
Speaker 2: Matt and I had a holiday with just ask but
Speaker 2: then we've decided to take our families on a holiday
Speaker 2: to see how that would go.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so far, well, we'll get we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you know what that is?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Just for reference those listening, that's the
Speaker 2: buzzer from the Kids Club to alert Matthew his children
Speaker 2: are in danger.
Speaker 1: Let me just I'll call my mom.
Speaker 2: This is great, they couldn't have happened.
Speaker 1: I'll just call Ali and just tell her that the
Speaker 1: kids need picking up. Fucking And the thing about my
Speaker 1: mum is that she never answers her phone, or.
Speaker 2: She answers it but startled she's like, oh, it's really hello,
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: The other day, whilst on the ship, I was saying,
Speaker 1: like we had to go do a zip line. I
Speaker 1: was like, marm it's booked in. I need I need
Speaker 1: you to come to the kids. And she has the
Speaker 1: ability to take her phone off Wi Fi and obviously
Speaker 1: we're at sea, so yeah, you don't have any reception.
Speaker 2: You got to call it like every now and then.
Speaker 2: Like it's like when they reached out the router.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's, oh, my goodness, you've answered. I I
Speaker 1: didn't think you'd pick up Oh goscha.
Speaker 2: Also, for reference, we brought our parents along with us.
Speaker 2: What could go wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know that the kids club PAGA
Speaker 1: has gone off, which means that someone well, yeah, that's okay,
Speaker 1: I think I think so. They just they said if
Speaker 1: there's anything that you need, anything with the kids that
Speaker 1: they need you to come and pick them up. It'll
Speaker 1: go off and it's just gone off.
Speaker 2: Where is shit? Oh shit, you can't make this ship up?
Speaker 1: Okay? Fuck? What can you? Can you? Kids?
Speaker 2: Club?
Speaker 1: Can you go ask? It's better if you just ask someone.
Speaker 1: I could explain it. And it's just better if you
Speaker 1: grab someone who works on the boat, ask for instructions
Speaker 1: and they'll help you. It'd be so much easy.
Speaker 2: Find the captain and ask him.
Speaker 1: Don't just know look, just tell me what level.
Speaker 2: And I'll find it.
Speaker 1: Fifteen at the back of the boat. She just hung
Speaker 1: off with me.
Speaker 2: Oh oh god, that's great. Yes, so we did. We
Speaker 2: look on top of going on holidays with family, and
Speaker 2: we did. We we have merged two families together. We
Speaker 2: also brought our parents along with us for help, really,
Speaker 2: so that we can do things and they can help
Speaker 2: mind the kids. But I feel like they don't. They
Speaker 2: never take it upon themselves be like, oh mind them.
Speaker 2: They're like, you're waiting for us to be like, can
Speaker 2: you mind them?
Speaker 1: And I look, I know that my mom is seventy odd.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how old she's great settle down
Speaker 1: seventy two, I think, I think, And in I said
Speaker 1: seventy three, you asshole, She nodded politely, likes, she's definitely
Speaker 1: not seventy three.
Speaker 2: A lot of experience, you can.
Speaker 1: I just say, I need to stop floating with my
Speaker 1: mom and in front of April as well.
Speaker 2: Oh it's all a bit of fun. Ooh we touch knees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom. I love her to death too, absolutely
Speaker 1: love her. Laura is not on this trip. Yeah, Laura's missing.
Speaker 1: She's back in Sydney. She's working hard, and I forget
Speaker 1: that she's not fifty. In my mind, she's still like
Speaker 1: a young mom, Like she's you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like she's pretty sprightly.
Speaker 1: Yeah she looks great.
Speaker 2: You said that.
Speaker 1: But you know there's things like getting to the airport.
Speaker 1: Were running a bit late, as you normally are with kids,
Speaker 1: and when you got to move quickly, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm there like throwing bags in the car and I'm
Speaker 1: like Miley and Lawler in the car and I turn around.
Speaker 1: Her Mom's just like.
Speaker 2: Did did in like slow mo? Now before you hang on,
Speaker 2: hang on, tell me about your mum's slowness. We have
Speaker 2: to acknowledge our partners, yes, and also we are on
Speaker 2: the Pacific Ocean, so it is telling that we are
Speaker 2: drinking a Stonewood Pacific Ale.
Speaker 1: Is this the Pacific Ocean?
Speaker 2: Let's just say this is it? And blue?
Speaker 1: I know it's the Coral Sea. I had a look
Speaker 1: on maps yesterday. It's it's a specific, isn't it. This
Speaker 1: is the Pacific. It has to be because Barron Bay.
Speaker 2: It's a specific ocean.
Speaker 1: Let's just go with that, because Barron Bay. That's that's
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, yeah, let's it's the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 2: And we are drinking Pacific Ale of course, born in
Speaker 2: Byron Bay. It is Barron Bay in a bottle. It's
Speaker 2: got lovely fruity after tons. There's Galaxy Hops Matt all
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: From Tasmania, ash much if you know that. But that
Speaker 1: is what gives the beer. It's big tropical fruit aromas
Speaker 1: and flavors and makes it, I believe, so refreshing.
Speaker 2: I know they just make great beer. They know how
Speaker 2: to do it. So we'd like to thank Stone and
Speaker 2: Wood once again, and the specific ocean.
Speaker 1: You know, there's certain environments I think that make beer
Speaker 1: taste better.
Speaker 2: Chips is one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I think when you're on the
Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean drinking a pacific ale. The stars are aligned,
Speaker 1: they are alianed, and it's bloody delicious.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so Cheers successfully smuggled stone Woods into another vessel.
Speaker 1: Question for you, ask what is your opinion on boarding planes?
Speaker 1: How do you do it? Because there's I feel.
Speaker 2: Like they usually walk on? How are you getting on there?
Speaker 2: What do you mean with kids?
Speaker 1: I roll? You roll on? No, So there's there's two
Speaker 1: opinions on how to correctly board a plane with kids.
Speaker 2: With kids, okay, so you just get on, you just
Speaker 2: get on without them, simple, far far away Ashbury kids.
Speaker 1: I left them behind. You got two spare seats next
Speaker 1: to you, don't I'm flying the right way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Option one is so you're flying with April, you got
Speaker 1: your two kids, you're all board together.
Speaker 2: There's more than just that.
Speaker 1: Option Option two is you board first, or April boards
Speaker 1: first with all of the bags right, so then she
Speaker 1: gets on there, she gets space in the overhead lockers,
Speaker 1: and then the other parent boards last with the kids.
Speaker 2: That's fucking genius. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you reckon?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I do the first option because I didn't know
Speaker 2: there was more than one option. I thought you just
Speaker 2: get on the plane with you kids, and they fucking
Speaker 2: carry on up the aisle all the way there.
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't mind just getting him on the seat,
Speaker 1: whipping out the iPad and just get them.
Speaker 2: Then get the bags up in the air.
Speaker 1: Stuck in them. Yeah, so you're yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Like me, all at once, sit down, shut up, put
Speaker 2: your seat belt. I put the seat belt on so tight.
Speaker 2: The come move yeah, cart breathe. So that's option three.
Speaker 2: The third option, you pin them down. You're essentially you
Speaker 2: essentially locked them in. But I like that second option.
Speaker 2: Who gave you that one? I read it online. People
Speaker 2: online are doing it. That's clever. I think that's Look,
Speaker 2: it's more time consuming.
Speaker 1: I just think to split the team up. To me,
Speaker 1: that's dangerous.
Speaker 2: Well, you split the team up, hopefully they don't get on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just like going on a cruise on my own.
Speaker 1: You know when you're sitting there and you row like
Speaker 1: three seats and you've got the window, and you're just
Speaker 1: praying that the two other people aren't sitting there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that with your family first and they're like,
Speaker 1: and that's all our passengers on board, and you're like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then you just like to put your phone
Speaker 2: on flight and you're uncomtactable for the whole flight. But
Speaker 2: also when you take kids on a plane, you automatically
Speaker 2: have given up the window seat for the rest of
Speaker 2: your lives because you're not gonna put them on the outside.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be like, move over, bitch, I want
Speaker 2: the window. You've got to like trap them in as well.
Speaker 2: But then it's like you miss out on the window
Speaker 2: seat for the rest of the time.
Speaker 1: Marley was the aisle, And the issue with the aisle
Speaker 1: is actually like get up, let her foots out, like
Speaker 1: she leads the foot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when that trolley comes up.
Speaker 1: Yeah that don't take it for no one taking a
Speaker 1: leg off, that's for sure. But yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was an ordeal on the on the floor, always is.
Speaker 1: I had three kids, Lola, Ellie, my mum. But we
Speaker 1: got here in one piece.
Speaker 2: And you came up on this this fine holiday the
Speaker 2: day of kind of pretty fine. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: stressful morning, but I did the day before because I
Speaker 2: was like, let's just get them up there.
Speaker 1: You fucking nailed that.
Speaker 2: Oh killed. Now we were relaxed. You came up and
Speaker 2: you were like, my kids have an agent nineteen hours.
Speaker 2: They've been up since yesterday. It's an hour flight where.
Speaker 1: My alarm went off at like four point thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning, and I was like, fuck, damn you ash
Speaker 1: Ash right now, I was fastest in his service department
Speaker 1: in Brisbane.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was beautiful Brisbane CBD. And this is the thing, like,
Speaker 2: whenever we go on holidays with the kids, it's never
Speaker 2: to a CBD. Let's be honest, why would you take
Speaker 2: the kids to a CB beach unless you're trying to
Speaker 2: get him employed. But Osco had never stayed at night
Speaker 2: in a CBD essentially, and we had some time to
Speaker 2: kill and like you, who was like trying to get
Speaker 2: there as quickly as possible. We went for a walk
Speaker 2: through Brisbane CBD. Okay, which is lovely. That's got is it? No? No,
Speaker 2: the idiot. They've got like nice, they've got Central parks
Speaker 2: on street.
Speaker 1: Give me a street Roma, Oh I know Rama sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's like a little ark reserve there.
Speaker 1: This is my hometown. We're talking about my way, so
Speaker 1: I can shit on Brisbane.
Speaker 2: I love Brisbane. I really think it's just missing a
Speaker 2: real beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a South bank. It's more like a steward
Speaker 1: where the homeless go to wash themselves.
Speaker 2: Is that why? It tasted like?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And speaking of homeless people, right, we were looking for
Speaker 2: like a playground for the kids to just burn off
Speaker 2: a bit of steam before we moved on to the
Speaker 2: next journey, as you will. And we found the park
Speaker 2: on Roma Street and I was like, okay, surely there's
Speaker 2: a big green parky, there's got to be a playground.
Speaker 2: So we went for a walk and ask yours like
Speaker 2: what what I would play on that? And pointed over
Speaker 2: there and there was a small community of tents homeless
Speaker 2: people and I will if you will. Yeah, they're sleeping.
Speaker 2: RAF don't know why. But I was like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you can't play on those people live there. And he
Speaker 2: couldn't quite work out what homeless people are. So April
Speaker 2: has stepped in. At kind. They do this thing where
Speaker 2: it's green choice and red choice. Green choices. You make
Speaker 2: a green choice, that's it's a good choice, and yeah,
Speaker 2: you make a red choice, get locked in the dungeon.
Speaker 1: Like pissing yourself as a red choice.
Speaker 2: It's more like hitting another child.
Speaker 1: That's a red choice.
Speaker 2: Red choice. April was trying to explain to Oscar how
Speaker 2: not to be homeless using the red choice, using the
Speaker 2: red choice in the green choice, and other parents have
Speaker 2: told us out there will understand exactly this. Oscar couldn't
Speaker 2: quite wrap his head around the meaning of homeless. They
Speaker 2: have no home? What do you mean they have no home?
Speaker 2: Get on, get one.
Speaker 1: Couldn't spoken like a true boomer. Yeah, just get a choice, just.
Speaker 2: Back in my day fifty cents. April was trying to
Speaker 2: explain to him what homeless meant. So first of all,
Speaker 2: couldn't work that out. And then she was like, now
Speaker 2: here's how not to be homeless.
Speaker 1: For anyone out there who may be on the brink
Speaker 1: of being homeless.
Speaker 2: Listen in let me help you out, April Star. Don't
Speaker 2: make any red choices, Okay, okay. And he was like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean by red choices? And I'm like, yeah, April,
Speaker 2: do you mean by red choices? Well, She's like, they
Speaker 2: made a lot of red choices. I was like, don't
Speaker 2: profile them all. And I was just like, fuck are
Speaker 2: you usually talking about She's like, you make green choices.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but what if green choices end up you
Speaker 2: end up homeless? And she was just like, stop confusing,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he doesn't understand. Appl said, just make
Speaker 2: sure that you make green choices forever, like trying to.
Speaker 1: Get him into scantactics. Yeah, which I think is clever.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you won't be homeless. I'm like, don't promise
Speaker 2: him that first of all. But then we get to
Speaker 2: the end of conversation. He was like, so, what do
Speaker 2: you mean they homeless? And I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: At this point with the homeless people being like.
Speaker 2: Do you mind, it was like we're trying to sleep
Speaker 2: in the middle of the day here, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I was like, all it means, Oscar is they live
Speaker 2: in a tent. And he was like, oh okay. I'm like,
Speaker 2: and you can't play on their tent. But then I
Speaker 2: was like, he's like that sounds pretty good. No, But
Speaker 2: I was like, but when you grow up, when you
Speaker 2: get older, you only use tents when you go camping.
Speaker 2: That's what you want to do. He guys, oh, I
Speaker 2: get it, and I looked open.
Speaker 1: I'm like, see simple, it's good to expose him to
Speaker 1: the big world out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a bit rattled, but then he was
Speaker 2: also more rattled at April trying to explain it to
Speaker 2: him and try and make it a teaching discipline way,
Speaker 2: just trying to have group too many things into the
Speaker 2: poor toddler's brain at once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, poor old Oscar.
Speaker 2: He is a bit confused.
Speaker 1: He's a bit confused.
Speaker 2: But also with holidays in Oscar, he's got an irrational
Speaker 2: fear of elevators because of April. No, this is someone
Speaker 2: else's doing. And everywhere you go when you go on holidays,
Speaker 2: there's elevators, right, you go to resort or you go
Speaker 2: for example, we're on a cruise ship now elevators, but
Speaker 2: we were staying on the sixty sixth floor in Brisbane,
Speaker 2: quite high. He did not want to get in that elevator.
Speaker 2: He's really putting on a brave face on here. You've
Speaker 2: seen him when we all go to get into an elevator.
Speaker 2: He's like, get on, holding John's hands. It's freak anyway.
Speaker 2: Hold John said, So what happened was when we're going
Speaker 2: to Bali last year, we'll in the elevator for the
Speaker 2: car park at Sydney Airport and we're on level seven
Speaker 2: and so was someone else with a whole heap of
Speaker 2: bags on a trolley. We were getting on the elevator,
Speaker 2: and he was late for the elevator and like stuck
Speaker 2: his whole body into it and it went through, it
Speaker 2: opened up. He was fine because the sensors right. But
Speaker 2: Oscar doesn't know that the same guy had heaps of bags.
Speaker 2: And when we were getting off, first of all, Oscars
Speaker 2: already petrified of this man gets off, all of his
Speaker 2: bags fell off into the lift, off the trolley and
Speaker 2: he's gone out. The lift doors shut and the bags
Speaker 2: just went and Oscar was just beside himself, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So from now on, if we get into an elevator,
Speaker 2: so like, well, on the way PhD, Yeah, on the
Speaker 2: way here. There's an elevator at Sydney Airport in the
Speaker 2: Councious terminal. It's one story. But because we've got pram bags,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't fit all of us in, So I
Speaker 2: was like you all getting with the bags all right
Speaker 2: up the stairs forgetting of his the doors shutting, and
Speaker 2: I just see his face like he's never going to
Speaker 2: see me, like the end of like some sort of
Speaker 2: like action movie like run up the stairs, got to
Speaker 2: the get to the top. So when it opens them
Speaker 2: right there like nothing's happened. And he was fucking losing
Speaker 2: it and he was like never and then like like
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of me just like full meltdown.
Speaker 1: He must fucking hate holidays. He's like especially on the
Speaker 1: ship because it's like to get anywhere you gotta get.
Speaker 1: He's having a terrible time.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's traumatize from the lift.
Speaker 1: And then Maddie, j hang on a second, let me
Speaker 1: just let me just defend myself before you start like pigeonholing.
Speaker 2: You traumatize my offspring.
Speaker 1: It was interesting us all coming together because we've never
Speaker 1: really spent that much time with each other's kids. It's
Speaker 1: always like we finished a record at one of our
Speaker 1: they come home from daycare, We hey, how are you?
Speaker 1: And then we're out the door. That's it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like maybe five ten minutes at the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually, the Lola's birthday with the first time we spent
Speaker 1: some time.
Speaker 2: Alic is there.
Speaker 1: But we're all hanging out together. Everyone's being very pleasant.
Speaker 1: I'm working hard to show your kids that I'm a
Speaker 1: good guy. And I had running races with Oscar you did,
Speaker 1: and he was loving it, Yeah, loving me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would go as far as to say yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Would say I would say the same. I would agree
Speaker 2: the foundaly really getting on like buddies.
Speaker 1: The foundation of our relationship was rock solid, So you
Speaker 1: could fucking put a high rise on that.
Speaker 2: Agree.
Speaker 1: More so in my mind we were in a great place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you thought wrong, my friend. Okay, I've come
Speaker 2: down to Maddie Jay's room with Oscar for some I
Speaker 2: can't remember what it was for to pick up a
Speaker 2: charge or something. Yes, and the door instantly the door
Speaker 2: was open, already open, shocked open, and I can already
Speaker 2: smell fat.
Speaker 1: I farted. Yes, I did a big fart and ash
Speaker 1: and I joked of like that's things. Don't come into
Speaker 1: the room because the fart's right there.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not coming in.
Speaker 1: And I looked at Oscar and he had a smile
Speaker 1: on his face. He was looking at me. He goes
Speaker 1: in my mind, he's looking at me in the way
Speaker 1: that someone looks at like a friend they've been reunited
Speaker 1: with for the first time. And so I thought it
Speaker 1: would be funny to bend down, grab him and bring
Speaker 1: him into the room, abduct him into.
Speaker 2: The in a force of like forcing your stench onto him.
Speaker 2: That's what it was.
Speaker 1: And my kids are in the room as well. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not like it's you know, it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: My girls are there and they're kind of like.
Speaker 2: They passed out on the ground from the stench.
Speaker 1: As I drag Oscar in, drags the wrong word. As
Speaker 1: I lift him.
Speaker 2: As I take Oscar in, he starts kicking. He fought
Speaker 2: pretty hard.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke. Nope, he starts upper
Speaker 1: cutting me. I like put him on the bed and
Speaker 1: he starts like trying to scratch.
Speaker 2: My eyes out, and then he started kicking, started kicking,
Speaker 2: and then he jumped off the bed.
Speaker 1: It was beating the ship out of me.
Speaker 2: And then he jumped off the bed, ran back down
Speaker 2: the hallway to me at the door, completely bypassed me,
Speaker 2: ran all the way up, all the way to the
Speaker 2: other end of the boat, up the hallway, screaming like
Speaker 2: and I looked back in the room and there's a
Speaker 2: sheepish Mattie daylight, and he just goes.
Speaker 1: I thought we were there.
Speaker 2: I was like, obviously not.
Speaker 1: You loved it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious shit, And then.
Speaker 1: I was I'm just undone, like so much. Two days he.
Speaker 2: Gave my heartfelt apology.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he were two days later that I was,
Speaker 1: and we had that. We had that day trip where
Speaker 1: at Ellie Beach every two seconds, I was like, hell,
Speaker 1: I love your shirt, Oscar. That's a great shirt. I
Speaker 1: brought him, man, I brought him snacks. I was like,
Speaker 1: you want a chocolate coming here in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: I've got puppies in my room and I we're not.
Speaker 1: It's never been the same since its ever.
Speaker 2: You get back, You'll get back there, You'll get back.
Speaker 1: Actually, we turned a corner this morning, did you because
Speaker 1: the kids had pancakes, maple syrup everywhere. Nightmare. Everyone's sticky
Speaker 1: from the pancakes. Yes. And I took my Ley to
Speaker 1: wash her hands and he came with, Oh.
Speaker 2: That's right, he's he's not as scared of you, So
Speaker 2: do it again, try again, I would say, Ash.
Speaker 1: I feel like if there was one person who I
Speaker 1: didn't have to remind that footy season has started, it
Speaker 1: is yourself. But to everyone else out there who may
Speaker 1: not be aware, we're back.
Speaker 2: Baby, You're back. You are, Yes, you are.
Speaker 1: I just have to say, Broncos that last game, wasn't
Speaker 1: it unbelievable?
Speaker 2: Yes, they did beat the Rabbits twenty eight eighteen.
Speaker 1: Could you just be a bit more excited that my
Speaker 1: team got their first win of the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2: Congratulations?
Speaker 1: That was so forth, I know, but yes, Matt.
Speaker 2: Both NRL and AFL seasons are well underway and you
Speaker 2: can watch every game of every round live on KO
Speaker 2: with no ad breaks during play. Now this week, a
Speaker 2: couple of call outs. We have a Grand Final rematch. Okay,
Speaker 2: come on, Panthers and the Broncos. Can they come back?
Speaker 2: Can they win and beat the Panthers back to last
Speaker 2: year's funeral?
Speaker 1: Moving on a second, what do you mean can they
Speaker 1: win when they win the rematch?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, okay?
Speaker 1: Can you just come on, I pretend to like Manly anyway?
Speaker 2: I have Chippendris for that game, and coming up Super Saturday,
Speaker 2: of course, three games back to back which are all
Speaker 2: exclusive of Fox League that are available on KO.
Speaker 1: And with the AFL, let's not forget this Hawthorne versus
Speaker 1: Melbourne that's going to be on Saturday, and then we
Speaker 1: have Richmond versus Adelaide on the Sunday.
Speaker 2: Beautiful and also, Matt, coming up this weekend is the
Speaker 2: Formula One Grand Prix and you can watch every session
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Speaker 1: I love how you got a surprise talking to you
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Speaker 2: The detail is so clear, it's like your driving laps ash.
Speaker 1: It will be remiss of me not to give a
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Speaker 1: it out on his home ground for points.
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Speaker 2: did something that I thought was I had a chuckle
Speaker 2: a chuckle. What happened yesterday? We were at breakfasts and
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying my breakfast and as you do, and I
Speaker 2: hear you say, Lola, no more butter, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I must be on a toast
Speaker 2: or something. Glance to my heart and then you're saying
Speaker 2: no more butter. And I look at Lola and she's
Speaker 2: got the stick of butter and she's just sucking on
Speaker 2: this stick of butter like some sort of freak. And
Speaker 2: I was just like, what the hell? And then you're
Speaker 2: like even this morning, You're like kid loves butter.
Speaker 1: She fucking loves butter, and this is heaven for her
Speaker 1: because where we have breakfast as soon as you sit
Speaker 1: down on the table forks crockery butter and a big
Speaker 1: bowl of butter, and the waight is like, can I
Speaker 1: get your orders please? And I was like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 2: You've already had my breakfast out for me right here.
Speaker 1: And she just she fucking went through three knobs.
Speaker 2: I know, I'll sit next with this morning, and I like,
Speaker 2: I like, sneakly slap on out of her hand. That's
Speaker 2: enough for you, mate, And then I've stepped on it.
Speaker 2: I slid through my slide. But also what she did
Speaker 2: she had greasy, oily, buttery hands, and she looked at me,
Speaker 2: looked at my shirt and then she just got her
Speaker 2: hand and smeared it down my shirt like I was
Speaker 2: an old fucking napkin.
Speaker 1: I apologize. Lola is interesting like that, she's an interesting cat.
Speaker 1: Marley warmed you straight away.
Speaker 2: Mary, Yeah, straight away. We had a little curl. Yes
Speaker 2: that was really nice, but like also with Lola, Like
Speaker 2: I said, you've told me so many stories about Lola,
Speaker 2: and then I haven't spent an extended amount of time
Speaker 2: with you, and now I sympathize with you. She's a
Speaker 2: rule breaker.
Speaker 1: She's a tolf one to work out.
Speaker 2: She is the type of kid that you say, don't
Speaker 2: do that, she'll go and do it and look at
Speaker 2: you while she's doing it, and then explain to you
Speaker 2: that she's doing what you told to do. And you're like,
Speaker 2: she's really good at like gaslighting you everyone and it's
Speaker 2: not just you, because you're like for weeks like she
Speaker 2: hates me. I think she secretly hates everybody except for Laura.
Speaker 1: Except except for Laura.
Speaker 2: So the other day, first day on the trip, we're
Speaker 2: having little cuddles. Great, She's like, I love you as
Speaker 2: I was like, that's great, I love that. And five
Speaker 2: minutes later I was like, do you want a couple
Speaker 2: of me? She's like no. I was like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2: And then yesterday she goes, I want to sit next
Speaker 2: to you. Ass We're on the bus on the island,
Speaker 2: so I want to sit next to you. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you want to sit next to me? She's like, no,
Speaker 2: just fucking off off the bus.
Speaker 1: She then she sits next to you and she starts
Speaker 1: wiping her handle and she's like, that's what I needed.
Speaker 2: She say she only sat next to me this morning
Speaker 2: because I made her.
Speaker 1: I was like, sit there, she's been She's been great
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, she's been great with me because she
Speaker 1: always needs to have like someone that's on her side.
Speaker 1: That's me. I'm the enabler now for all of her behavior,
Speaker 1: but she fucking hates everyone else. For example, Nana like
Speaker 1: she was struggling with their swimmers. I was putting Marley
Speaker 1: getting Maley ready for the pool, and Nana just goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you've just got to let me help put your feet
Speaker 1: in the holes of the swimmers. And she goes, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And I spat in her face and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't do that, and.
Speaker 2: She was like what I oh, she used to dude,
Speaker 2: I want kid her. And Marley is so opposite it's wild.
Speaker 2: And then there's you've got Oscar in the middle of
Speaker 2: these two girls trying to work out which one he
Speaker 2: really should be hanging out with.
Speaker 1: It's funny, dude, breakfast there he's with Marley lunchtime is
Speaker 1: with Lola, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Fun, we're playing the field this kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like Meanwhile, I'm like working out when
Speaker 1: to abductim next, Paul. Kid's confused.
Speaker 2: I yesterday, Lola. I could tell she's just a bit
Speaker 2: hard work for you. A few times, then she has
Speaker 2: a nap, right, and then she's cranky again, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, she's full of beans the whole night.
Speaker 2: Like I left dinner early because Macy fell asleep at
Speaker 2: the table, and then like when I did leave you,
Speaker 2: she was she was bouncing. It was like seven, seven o'clock,
Speaker 2: and then I had to sit in the room and
Speaker 2: wait for April to come back with Oscar and then
Speaker 2: we're going off to like some white party thing. It
Speaker 2: was like eight o'clock when I message you, because April said,
Speaker 2: Matt he's gonna take her to the pub and just
Speaker 2: let her run around like the pub on the boat
Speaker 2: and just let her wear himself out. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll go meet him. But you obviously she must have crashed, surely.
Speaker 1: No, she was up till like nine o'clock last night.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah, yeah, she'd have taken to the white party.
Speaker 1: No, I had to be I was looking after Mali.
Speaker 1: But I think overall, going on holidays with other people,
Speaker 1: it's a real roll of the dice. Yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: one thing to get along with someone like individually, it's
Speaker 1: another thing to like have your families combined.
Speaker 2: Oh and especially the kids, they like they egg each
Speaker 2: other on. Like one will be like I want this,
Speaker 2: then one will be like I want that.
Speaker 1: But I think it's been pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was only like there's just been the odd
Speaker 2: individual meltdown collective standard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also I'm trying my best to be what.
Speaker 2: Do you mean, like it's a scream at the Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't. There's been a couple of like meltdowns like
Speaker 2: yes they went Lola melt down the line and you
Speaker 2: had your hands full mild and I was like, dropped
Speaker 2: aples bag. I'm like, I'm picking this fucking kid. I
Speaker 2: don't give a ship if she punches me out, and
Speaker 2: like she was like like flailing around and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: And the reason why it's worked, I think is because
Speaker 1: we've got we've both got similar styles of parenting. We
Speaker 1: try and lay down the rules when we need to
Speaker 1: lay down the rules like. It's an example example of
Speaker 1: like where all the parents had united front. Because the kids,
Speaker 1: our kids are pretty similar, all bad eaters. You got
Speaker 1: to like sit down, like individually, feed every nugget into
Speaker 1: their mouth. It's painful.
Speaker 2: There's a bit of mashed potato on that one. Shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up and just shove it in your gob
Speaker 2: and leave me the fuck alone.
Speaker 1: And an Oscar wasn't eating last night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he didn't want to bar it.
Speaker 1: And so you went and took Macie into bed and
Speaker 1: he was he had like a full plate and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh on ice cream. And April was like,
Speaker 1: you're not getting ice cream? And then my kids were
Speaker 1: like are we getting ice cream? And I'm like, no
Speaker 1: one's getting ice cream, and I missed it. Oscar flipped.
Speaker 1: He was like ah he was. He was the same
Speaker 1: as when I tried to bring him into the room
Speaker 1: and I was like, I know that's cream. And April goes,
Speaker 1: are your kid's going to have ice cream? And I said, April,
Speaker 1: if he's not getting ice cream, no, no one's getting
Speaker 1: ice cream. And then my kids started to losing and
Speaker 1: I said, ye shut up. And then and then April goes,
Speaker 1: if you have five chicken nuggets, you can have the
Speaker 1: ice cream, and so we're all there like oh, osca,
Speaker 1: and then the fifth nugget came and it was just
Speaker 1: like the kids was soked. Morley and Lola were like,
Speaker 1: we can get ice cream. Oscarol was like, guys, I've
Speaker 1: done it and it was beautiful. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll go water the ice cream. April was like I've
Speaker 1: already done it. We're all getting ice cream.
Speaker 2: Why don't you to just get married.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. So it's worked out well.
Speaker 2: I think my parenting style is more of camp leader.
Speaker 2: I'm like come on, and then I'm like stop, come on, stop,
Speaker 2: don't touch that. I do this thing. But I don't
Speaker 2: know if you noticed that I put them like get
Speaker 2: up against the wall. I've seen that No in the
Speaker 2: morning before at breakfast, like all right, get up against
Speaker 2: the wall, and Macy just does what all the other
Speaker 2: kids doing. I'm like, just like that's where Abe got
Speaker 2: that photo of them all and I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: against the wall now and they're all like.
Speaker 1: We're like, the kid's having a great time. There's a
Speaker 1: constant fear of elevators getting against the wall, being dragged
Speaker 1: into random rooms and we're like, what a great trip.
Speaker 2: Because Oscar knows my tone of voice at a certain point,
Speaker 2: he's like, don't fuck with him because the next tone
Speaker 2: is way worse, and like yes. They were in line
Speaker 2: for the boat back and there was the yellow line
Speaker 2: and I was like, don't go outside the yellow line,
Speaker 2: and Lowel was like fuck you. And I was like,
Speaker 2: and she was like stepping was like yellow line. So
Speaker 2: I stood and I got down onto her level and
Speaker 2: I was like, don't step out of the yellow line
Speaker 2: and then gets close. I'm like, get back in mind,
Speaker 2: and he was like fuck and low We're just grabbed
Speaker 2: my cheeks up there and then pushes my head and
Speaker 2: like staunched off.
Speaker 1: That's Lola.
Speaker 2: I was like, work this kid out.
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to know how it's going to be going
Speaker 1: back to Sydney and back with Laura because this this
Speaker 1: is honestly, I'm not trying to be funny. This is
Speaker 1: the closest up Lola and I have ever been, which
Speaker 1: is like, I'm fucking loving life right now. Because we're
Speaker 1: in the We're in the one cabin and she'll wake
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and she's like,
Speaker 1: come into my bed and we have this cuddle. Like
Speaker 1: this morning, we woke up at like four o'clock, got
Speaker 1: into bed, gave her a cutter. We slept until seven,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've never in the three years that
Speaker 1: she's been here, had that before.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: And all I had to do was just like completely
Speaker 1: remove Laura from the picture. I wish I'd done this sooner.
Speaker 2: Sorry Laura, Sorry Laura. But yeah, it's been good. I
Speaker 2: feel like bringing them together, like the other day, Macy
Speaker 2: and Marley holding hands. That's great, so good bringing two
Speaker 2: families together. And it is, of course on a Pinot cruise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the four day cruise by the way,
Speaker 1: in case anyone does want to do this trip, probably
Speaker 1: seen art socials and seeing what we've been up to.
Speaker 1: But we went from Brisbane to wit Sundays and back.
Speaker 1: Is it the Pacific counter Pacific Encounter. There's also when
Speaker 1: that goes from Sydney. There's Heat Morton as well.
Speaker 2: Heat So you can check out their website. They've got
Speaker 2: a lot of heaps and heaps and heaps seems we
Speaker 2: did this one.
Speaker 1: We do have a discount code ten percent off if.
Speaker 2: You want to book in another cruise, I.
Speaker 1: Know we should do it again. Maybe just you and me?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: If you want to book this trip and get the
Speaker 1: ten percent discount, you can use the code two Dads
Speaker 1: Two Dads. Will put that in the show notes in
Speaker 1: case you want to use it.
Speaker 2: We'll also put a link to the website. Make it
Speaker 2: a little bit easier for you, step by step. Now
Speaker 2: that we've spoken about the multiple meltdowns on this ship,
Speaker 2: let's go to our favorite segment, which is tantrum slash
Speaker 2: Meltdown of the Week. Cue music.
Speaker 1: He's a fine.
Speaker 2: All right, manny Jay. So this one's from Alison says,
Speaker 2: my son just cried and threw his breakfast on the
Speaker 2: floor because his porridge had oats in it.
Speaker 1: Those little assholes.
Speaker 2: Oh man, so copy, what do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do with that? Like, honestly, what is
Speaker 1: still cut?
Speaker 2: Oats?
Speaker 1: You more like, it's just so hard, isn't it?
Speaker 2: You just don't know?
Speaker 1: So hard? And as well, five days out of the
Speaker 1: week they love oats for.
Speaker 2: Breakfast, and then they realized that there's oats.
Speaker 1: They're like, wait a second, did you try and trick me?
Speaker 1: What have I been eating?
Speaker 2: Oscar this morning. So like had a bottle of milk
Speaker 2: this morning, but because we don't have a kettle in
Speaker 2: our room, it was cold, and April gave it to
Speaker 2: him and he just literally grabbed it dropped it on
Speaker 2: the ground. Site it's cold.
Speaker 1: They are slave mine.
Speaker 2: And I saw a funny TikTok the other day and
Speaker 2: it was like, essentially, you're just your toddler's bitch. Ah,
Speaker 2: feed me, wash me, bathe me, carry me.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have it any other way though, Live all right.
Speaker 1: This is from Mattias Mathias Moburgh ohis Moburg. I knew
Speaker 1: you'd say that.
Speaker 2: Pass them bellow.
Speaker 1: One evening, my two orders, four and two years old
Speaker 1: were sitting in the older girl's bed. The older girl
Speaker 1: was playing on her iPad and the younger one was
Speaker 1: watching her play. I was in the other room when
Speaker 1: I started to hear the younger one scream. I told
Speaker 1: them stop fighting and behave yourselves, well, said, like all
Speaker 1: good parents do. The screaming went on and on, and
Speaker 1: so I had to put a stop to it, says Matteas.
Speaker 1: Just when I passed the threshold of her room, I
Speaker 1: smelled a strong stench. Oh no, and When I got
Speaker 1: to the bed, my two year old sat in a
Speaker 1: diaper holding a piece of turb The reason for the
Speaker 1: screaming was that she had taken a bit out Oh
Speaker 1: my what, sorry had taken Oh my god, get through it.
Speaker 1: She had taken a bite out of it. Oh my
Speaker 1: god what? And it tasted awful in her mouth. You
Speaker 1: don't say like, oh my god. I picked up my
Speaker 1: daughter in disgust and ran with her to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: threw it in the shower where my wife was. And
Speaker 1: the weird thing was that my older daughter was sitting
Speaker 1: right next to this display of absolute shit housery, no
Speaker 1: pun intended. I didn't notice a thing, just kept playing
Speaker 1: on her iPad. Well, he's taking the headphones off. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a good chuckle when the headphones come off.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Also, fuck is.
Speaker 2: Wrong with them?
Speaker 1: Also, this ship could start sinking, and if the kids
Speaker 1: are on their phones and iPad, fuck, they wouldn't move.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't move a muscle.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even know. That just reminds me of something gross,
Speaker 2: because yesterday my dad took him to the toilet and
Speaker 2: like was like going to that cubicle there go to
Speaker 2: the for a WII and Dad was like, you're taking
Speaker 2: a while and poked his head in and he's got
Speaker 2: his head in the toilet. Not in the water, but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: Dad got his head in the toilet. And Dad's like, oh,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And he let go and he's
Speaker 2: whole nervous thing as he puts his fingers in his mouth. Ah.
Speaker 1: He was like ooh.
Speaker 2: And I was like, did you wash him? And Dad's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I licked his fingers. Ah.
Speaker 1: No, Let's do some list of questions. Yes to end on.
Speaker 2: Let's end on a listener question.
Speaker 1: This first one is from Tommy, who says, my daughter,
Speaker 1: who was nearly one and a half, walks in on
Speaker 1: me in the shower, on the rag, and most recently
Speaker 1: she sat on my lap while I took a big shit. Well,
Speaker 1: said Tommy, hellig shit backed one out? How good are boundaries?
Speaker 1: I'm wondering though, did either of the two of you
Speaker 1: let your kids see you naked? And was there an
Speaker 1: age where you thought they shouldn't anymore? Hey, he says
Speaker 1: some brackets absolutely no judgment if they still do. This
Speaker 1: is why I'm asking, because I have no idea and
Speaker 1: do feel differently for a boy seeing you in your
Speaker 1: glory than a girl. And Tommy, can I just say
Speaker 1: this is a safe space. You can ask absolutely anything
Speaker 1: and no me, no Ash will ever judge you. And
Speaker 1: I let me rephrase that I will never judge Ash
Speaker 1: may very well do so.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna knock, gonna look.
Speaker 1: What do you do with your kids? For me?
Speaker 2: I've got a boy and a girl. Don't care if
Speaker 2: they see me in the nut. Honestly, I think they
Speaker 2: should thank me every time.
Speaker 1: Because it's this is what a real man looks like.
Speaker 2: And I continue to say that. They never really walk
Speaker 2: in on me because I lock the door. Oh you
Speaker 2: do every time. I'm not stupid, Not that you're stupid,
Speaker 2: but lock the door.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Let them bang on the door all they lie. I'll
Speaker 2: get the bang on the door, like daddy, what are
Speaker 2: you doing in there? What do you think I'm doing
Speaker 2: in here? Man, I'm trying to shit and get away
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: I never the kids never come in and they never
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they April's in the shower, Both kids are in
Speaker 2: there in the room. Macey's using in the drawers.
Speaker 1: I guess Macy's she's a woman. A few words, so
Speaker 1: she ever say like, oh, Daddy, like you've got Because
Speaker 1: my kids sometimes like if it's been like I'm a
Speaker 1: bit of a public notist at home, like you heard
Speaker 1: it here first, it doesn't really bother me. Sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been a week or two and the girls haven't
Speaker 1: seen me naked, and then all of a sudden, I've
Speaker 1: seen me naked, and I go, holy shit, it's you, daddy.
Speaker 1: You've got a dodo And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: And I want to educate them when the fact that
Speaker 1: he slip it around a bit, But I don't think
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that I've done now because
Speaker 1: Marley's coming up to being five. Every now and then,
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a treat for them when they
Speaker 1: have a bath. I help in the bath with them.
Speaker 1: And now, just because it's a small bath and there's
Speaker 1: three of us in there, I put my budgies on
Speaker 1: and I wear that in the bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's a huge big deal until
Speaker 2: they start to get a bit old, Like if you're
Speaker 2: a bathroom with your teenager, that's weird. But I think
Speaker 2: if they're like that, it's like you said at school, Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe yeah, maybe we're not there yet. We don't really know.
Speaker 2: So I would say at the moment the ages that
Speaker 2: both of our kids are education wise about private parts,
Speaker 2: it can help.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're giving advice. Sorry I stopped. You
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: This is great, And I like, I like Macie and
Speaker 2: Oscar shower together, bath together, boy and girl. But like
Speaker 2: they don't know, right, they don't know. But unless we
Speaker 2: educate them. So like I find that I'm like, at
Speaker 2: the age now we're nuditive around me mum, not my mum, mummy,
Speaker 2: let's say, and both our kids. It's still fine and
Speaker 2: still have educational purposes. But I think, yeah, once I
Speaker 2: get to primary school, we'll probably have a different opinion
Speaker 2: on it. Did tom say that did one of them
Speaker 2: sadden the l was taking a ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean the kids one and a half.
Speaker 2: Book young age. Fine. I think as we get into
Speaker 2: primary school our opinions might change. But I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to judge anyone out loud. Never would
Speaker 2: up here all the time, Tommy, I hope that helps
Speaker 2: you through. He's probably like, that was just a load
Speaker 2: of fucking nonsense.
Speaker 1: But what.
Speaker 2: The next one is from Courtney Matt, I want to know, Well,
Speaker 2: Courtney wants to know. Wa'ts your lazy game to play
Speaker 2: with your kids? This is hers. I lay on the
Speaker 2: floor whilst my daughter takes her Barbie on a mountain
Speaker 2: walk on my back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's good lazy.
Speaker 1: That's very good. And I think I think all good
Speaker 1: lazy games require some level of being horizontal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that guy who gets his kids to draw
Speaker 2: him while he sleeps. Fucking genius.
Speaker 1: Very good. My lazy game. Sometimes when the kids wake
Speaker 1: up really early and they come into bed and I
Speaker 1: just want another five ten minutes and they're wide awake,
Speaker 1: we play a game where they draw letters on my
Speaker 1: back and I try and guess what the letters are
Speaker 1: and it just normally goes. I'm like, is that a Z?
Speaker 1: Do it again? And I try again. I go is
Speaker 1: that an S?
Speaker 2: Do it again again?
Speaker 1: And that's that's my laser game.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Mine is similar. I lay on my stomach
Speaker 2: and just let them jump on me.
Speaker 1: That's not what you said before.
Speaker 2: I said lock them in a cupboard, but I'm not
Speaker 2: allowed to say that because it's not true.
Speaker 1: The tummy that's a great na.
Speaker 2: I'm on my Tommy and there's on my back because
Speaker 2: I don't I don't really like massages, but I like
Speaker 2: when my Oscar comes in with two knees form in
Speaker 2: the bat really makes you feel a lot.
Speaker 1: Anyway, before we go, last week we answered the question
Speaker 1: of what is the best book to read to your kids?
Speaker 1: That We've got a lot of great answers. We're not
Speaker 1: going to go through them here, but if you go
Speaker 1: onto it one of our last posts on two Doting
Speaker 1: Dads on Instagram, there's some great suggests in there from
Speaker 1: other parents. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just saw one here which I just spark my interest,
Speaker 2: which I do quite like. Rhymes short, it's easy, it's piranhas,
Speaker 2: don't eat bananas. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 1: That's a good That is a belter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get whip that one out. Getting to sleep room.
Speaker 1: That is a belt. All this book talk ash it's
Speaker 1: getting the cogs turning in my mind.
Speaker 2: I mean I can see them turning. I did very
Speaker 2: bad at schools as Engli English in particular. Both of
Speaker 2: us can't read all right, could we could? We potentially,
Speaker 2: But we've.
Speaker 1: Got an idea and what we want to do is
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