1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Do you constantly feel as if you're doing all of 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: the right things when it comes to your eating and 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: exercise but getting no results. Are you paying a personal trainer, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: maybe you're eating even seeing a dietitian or a naturopath 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: to help you get back to your best body, but 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: nothing is happening on the scale and you're getting increasingly frustrated. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Nutrition Couch, we chat what 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: it really means to be really doing the work and 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: some of the signs that you may or may not 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: be doing just what you think you should be doing. Hi, 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm Leanne Wood and I'm CP Barrel, and together we 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: you up to date on everything that you need to 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: know in the world of nutrition, as well as doing 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: all the work. Today we share some new data that 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: shares the top four nutrients that up to sixty percent. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Of people worldwide are deficient in. 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: We found a new veggie fry option at the supermarket, 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: and our listener question is all about how to build 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: and nourishing and healthy smoothie. So to kick us off today, Susie, 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: You've got a little bit of I think a story 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: to tell this week about a client who perhaps wasn't 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: doing the work she thought she was, and then what 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: she was she was seeing some really great results. So 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: I'll pass over to you to kick us through today's 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: little case studied chat. 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is always a good one, and 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: we do mention it on occasion, just talking about our 29 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: clients and what we're seeing and just. 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: Little sort of tidbits we pick up through the weeks. 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: But I think it is always worthy of discussion because 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: I have no doubt that if you're listening to our podcast, 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: you probably are pretty healthy in the sense that you 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: have an interest in nutrition, you probably exercise regularly, and 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: you really trying to always do better, be better, get 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: better results, strive for different goals. And that's great. That's 37 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: why we love putting the podcast together so much. We 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: get so much amazing feedback on our social media about 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: people have had amazing results. 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: That even I'm shocked about. At times. 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: You know, people will write and say they've lost ten 42 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: kilos or they've changed this, and it's such satisfying, fulfilling work. 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: So I think that even though we have kind of 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: coveted at times, it will always resonate for different reasons. 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: And I think the reason that it was on my 46 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: mind was that I noticed my clients will describe and 47 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: this isn't one client in particular, this is just a 48 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: broad observation across the board. 49 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: And I'll notice that when my clients are describing all the. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Things that they've done, they'll say, I've been to pilates, 51 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: or I've been to my physio class each week, or 52 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: I've started to track my steps, or I have cut 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: back on alcohol. But when I really get to the 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: nitty gritty, they are pitting their outcomes on ticking the 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: box on something. Okay, I've done that, I should then 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: get results. But when we take a bit of a 57 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: deep dive, they're still not actually doing the work, because 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: the work is pushing yourself at the gym. It's not 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: just getting to the gym. 60 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: The work is. 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 3: Not eating the extra or making sure you're having those 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: two to three cups of salad or bench. So they 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: sort of make a couple of positive actions, which is good, 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: but then they're like, Okay, I've done I should get 65 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: the results that I'm looking for. And it's just not 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: always that tightness or specificity that's required. And so I 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: want people to be thinking about. Whilst I may be 68 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: ticking the box on a basic exercise basic healthy eating, 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: are you then actually taking it to the next. 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: Level and doing the work. 71 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: Are you cutting up and preparing your salad and vegetables 72 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: to have it every single meal so you're not just 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: grabbing your nut bar or cheese and crackets, but then 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: you've got that container of fresh food as well. 75 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: Are you saying no to. 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: The extras that slipping in and making sure that you're 77 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: only eating out once or twice a week because that's 78 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: generally higher calorie meals and higher calorie food. Are you 79 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: taking every opportunity to move more as opposed to going 80 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: to the gym once a day and then saying that 81 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm done. So I think it's a good reflection. I 82 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: might be doing well, I might be making good choices, 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: but am I actually doing the work? And a reminder 84 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: that going and seeing a health professional, a physio, a dietitian, 85 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: a doctor is not actually the work. The work is 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: when you actually make that extra effort to take it to. 87 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: The next level. 88 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: And I noticed that a lot when I've had clients 89 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: who I haven't seen for quite some time and they 90 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: may come back for their some more sessions, or you know, 91 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: they might have had a break because things are happening 92 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: in the family, or I might have been unwell and 93 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: be like, right, I'm ready to start, and they're very 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 3: very keen to make an appointment, and I'll say, let's 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: get a week of diaries and work first, because that's 96 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: what I need to do my job. I need you 97 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: to have done your work and then I can do 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: my work. The work is not coming to see me. 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: That's facilitating the work. So that lot springs to mind. 100 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: Are you actually doing all the things that you could 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: be doing before you get advice from a health professional. 102 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: Are you pretending that that is doing the work by 103 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: going and seeing the health professional when really you could 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: have started the exercise beforehand. You could have had a 105 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: week of healthy eating before. And you know, that reminds 106 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: me of land someone. I guess clients are clients you've 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: come after they've already started the work and they've lost five, ten, 108 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: twenty kilos and then they're coming for that next level. 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Because you can always do things and take it to 110 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: the next level yourself, whether it's training harder, actually shifting 111 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: moving to training, whether it's increasing vegetable intake, which very 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: few of us ever get enough of, whether it's really 113 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: evaluating your portions, whether it's giving yourself permission to have 114 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: way too many treats, because I see the treats slip 115 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: in multiple times a day. You know, there's the macaron 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: at the coffee shop that you've had, then there's the 117 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: hot chocolate after dinner, and then there's also the chocolate. 118 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: Like it's all those little permissions and little extras that 119 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: slip in. So I think it's just a good chat 120 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: in general to remind ourselves that you actually have to 121 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: do something as opposed to think you're doing something by 122 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: seeing someone else. 123 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: And I just want to highlight a couple of really 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: positive examples that I've had from clients in the last 125 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: few weeks quote unquote doing the work because I agree 126 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: with you just sort of ticking the box and saying 127 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I got to the gym or I added some vegets 128 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: to by dinner. That's great and it's a really helpful 129 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: thing to do. But if the goal is to drop 130 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: some body fat and see that scale going in a 131 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: downward trajectory, you have to regularly do the work. Ie, 132 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: you have to do it consistently, like you actually have 133 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: to do it consistently day in day out, weekday, weekend, 134 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, special occasion on holidays. You have to consistently 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: do the work. You don't need to be perfect, but 136 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: you have to be fairly consistent eighty to ninety percent 137 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: of the time. Particularly if you have a bigger weight 138 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: loss goal or if you're very close to your goal 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: ie you've only got say the last three to five 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: kilos to lose, that tightness really really needs to be there. 141 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: So one of my clients, and the work quote unquote 142 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: looks really different for everybody, because one of my clients 143 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: were really working on decades of what I would call 144 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: that poorer relationship with food, poorer body image sort of 145 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: issues as well, and really a background of skipping meals 146 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: and then overeating and almost giving herself permission to kind 147 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: of binge eat sweets or sugar later on in the night. 148 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: And so doing the work is really that self care. 149 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: It's prepared, baring meals in advance, it's consciously going out 150 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: of her way to stop and take a lunch, break, 151 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: stop and break for dinner, not just push through and 152 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: not just eat off the kid's plate. Actually prepare a 153 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: meal for herself. So doing that work gets her those 154 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: fabulous results. When she's eating regularly and she's regularly putting 155 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: fuel into her body, she gets fabulous results. Is the 156 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: old behaviors in her fullback pattern is very easy to 157 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: skip a meal in order to give herself permission to 158 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: overy later on, and we know time and time again 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: that that's not a strategy that works for her or 160 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: makes her successful long term. So doing the work for 161 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: her is all about planning ahead and actually eating regularly 162 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: versus cutting back or skipping meals, which I know a 163 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of people do. And then I've had other clients 164 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: who the work is really just consciously being aware of 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: what they are having, because all of these little things 166 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: creep in, like a second milky coffee each day, which 167 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: you don't think makes a big difference, and for a 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: lot of people it doesn't, but for somebody in a 169 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: really tight calorie budget, a second coffee, three squares of 170 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: chocolate instead of two, and an extra little bit of 171 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: be thrown into the smoothie in the morning can be 172 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the difference of you know, three four hundred grams on 173 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: the scale or just one hundred grams on the scale, 174 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and for others it might be you know, the work is, yeah, 175 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: they go to the gym five days a week, which 176 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: is amazing, but the nutrition isn't quite there, or breakfast 177 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: is often skipped and then it's a bit of a 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: high calorie lunch, and then you know, there's permission to 179 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: have a little bit more alcohol during the day. Or 180 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: they might be going to a work function where all 181 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: of the food and all of the alcohol is catered. 182 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Then they're having three glasses of wine, and I have 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: to challenge them and say, you know, is a work 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: function somewhere where we really want to spend three glasses 185 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: of wine? Whereas I'd much rather you just had one 186 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: beautiful glass of like French champagne versus three kind of 187 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: crappier glasses of champagne at a work function. Where is 188 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: that where you really want to be having three drinks? 189 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: So that work portion looks very different for a lot 190 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: of our clients, and it is very different for all 191 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: of us. But it's really taking that step back and saying, well, 192 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: why am I not getting the results that I want? 193 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: And what is the thing that I need to do 194 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: a little bit better, a little bit more consistently. Or 195 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: just pay that little bit more at time tension too, 196 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: because for many of us it is it is just 197 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: a totally different area. But for all of us, if 198 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: we can just tighten it up and lock it down 199 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: that little bit, we often do see those great results 200 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: on the scale the next week. 201 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: We just have a little deciphering of your abbreviation PB. 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: Please for our listeners who may not be familiar with 203 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: dietician abbreviations peanut butter. 204 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: Everone knows what PV is, do they? I don't know. 205 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: I just thought that we needed to do it. Actually, 206 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: I want to ask you in a second about. 207 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: Your pump peanut butter. 208 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Peanut butter, and we always stress about peanut butter because 209 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: like it serves a tea spirited, everyone has massive amounts. 210 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: I want to ask you in a minute actually about 211 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: your what's it a pumpkin spice laste, because I saw 212 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: that at Starbucks this week too. 213 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: I know you love those. 214 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: It's not good. 215 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, just going back to the discussion. 216 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: Actually, the work is also, you said, the planning, because 217 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many clients I have who 218 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: do really well in their own environment, but as soon 219 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: as they're out of context, a work conference in particular, 220 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: they don't have or haven't developed that skill yet to think, oh, 221 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: I need to take some food with me, or I 222 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,359 Speaker 3: need to order something, and I'll spend. 223 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: A lot of time on that because you can. 224 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: Never assume that when you go away from your environment 225 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: the food options will be healthy. You become the victim 226 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: of the environment, and very rarely is it healthy. So 227 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: that's another example of the work. Have you preempted certain 228 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: situations where you may need to plan ahead, take some food, etc. 229 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: The other major one I see all the time slipping 230 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: in that undoes so much of our work is fries. 231 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: If I see another food diary with a few chips 232 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: off someone's plate, like I did an article a few 233 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: years ago about frides, and I think it serves like 234 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: seven or eight that's sort of the equivalent of over 235 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: one hundred calories. 236 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: So that's the work. 237 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought it was just a good time 238 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: of year, coming to that end of the year where 239 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners will pick up their exercise, 240 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: they want to get back into their summer clothes, They 241 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: might be preparing for a summer holiday, and you know, 242 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: getting a bit resentful that they're going to the gym 243 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: and they're eating well, or their perception is they're eating well. 244 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: But the question is is there any other work you 245 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: can do to take it to the next level? And yeah, 246 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: tell me what's the pumpkin spice latte? Because it's Halloween 247 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: coming up and I saw them in Starbucks. Is it 248 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: like a syrup? 249 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know what's in it, but it's it's 250 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: delicious and it's my favorite thing. 251 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: It's my obsession. 252 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: When we went to America a couple of times and 253 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: I didn't actually realize they did them over in Australia 254 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: until David texts me one day because there's a Starbucks 255 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: near his work in the city and he's like, a 256 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: few years ago, do. 257 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: You know they make pumpkin spice lattes here? That was 258 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: like my US treats. 259 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: So when we've been into like you know, I've been 260 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: to New York or a Hawaii before, I'm like, that's 261 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: what I get. It's delicious and it's only out it's 262 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: around this time of year, which is there. I think 263 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: like there must be coming into spring or something for 264 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: them four four yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's gone. It's 265 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: gone by the time that Halloween hits I'm pretty sure, 266 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: so I don't know. 267 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: What's in it. 268 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: I think it's like it's some sort of sugar syrup, 269 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Like whenever I watch them do it, it's three pumps 270 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: of syrup, so a lot. It's a lot of sugar. 271 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: Then I think there must be some sort of like 272 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: mixed spice or some sort of cinnamon and nutmeg or something, 273 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: some spice cot a combo. And then I just get 274 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: it in a normal latte. And then they always ask 275 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: you want whit cream on top. I'm like, oh no, 276 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: that's that's too much, Like it's overly sweet. I always 277 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: ask for two pumps, not three. I get it less sweet, 278 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: and then I just get it on plane. I just 279 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: get it on Skimmu. Yeah, you can definitely add cream 280 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: to it. Then you can get it in like an 281 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: ice version as well. It's a lot like it's definitely 282 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: like a treat. But I find them delicious. 283 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: I love it. It's something about the spice combo I'm 284 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: obsessed with. 285 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: And you can definitely replicate that with things like cinnamon 286 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: just in a froth if you're making cappuccino or latte 287 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: at home. But what I do at Starbucks because I 288 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: do like it's tachy. I know, don't judge me. I 289 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: love a Starbucks because it reminds me of being in Hawaii. 290 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: But whenever I order one of the drinks, I will 291 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: say things obviously, no weird, but also I'll say for 292 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: half syrup or just one pump because they will pump 293 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: two or three and that's all sugar, so I'll say one. 294 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: And I know in the States they've got sugar free syrups. 295 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if they have them here, but that's 296 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: a good example that it is easy to adjust things 297 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: when you're out. If you do enjoy something and I'm 298 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: like you, like a Starbucks drink would probably be to 299 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: at least two hundred calories. It's kind of like a 300 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: small meal. So it is that fits the you don't 301 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: have that a food, you. 302 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: Know what I mean? Like that is kind of the 303 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: treat occasion. It's like a smoothie, which we're going to 304 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: talk about in a little while. Ye, moving on the end. 305 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: I actually just found a great set of data that 306 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: came out this week looking at nutrient deficiencies around the world. Now, 307 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: when you look at global nutrition, obviously there's the impact 308 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: of third world countries who don't have access to a 309 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: number of or range and abundance of nutrient rich food. 310 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: But I did think it was relevant in terms of 311 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: a general discussion because Australia still can have up to 312 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: twenty five percent deficiency in some of those key nutrients, 313 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: and that the article was headlined that there's four key 314 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: nutrients that over sixty percent of people worldwide are low 315 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: in the diets of Now that isn't to say that 316 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: sixty percent of Australians would be low. It's more likely, 317 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: of course countries that don't have access to food like this. 318 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: But in terms of still high risk in the diets 319 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: of Australians, we actually are quite low, up to twenty 320 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: five percent, even in these nutrients. So the first one 321 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: is iodine. It's estimated that five point one billion people, 322 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: sixty eight percent of the world's population is low or 323 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: is deficient in that key nutrient, and it is certainly 324 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: worth a discussion here in Australia because our soil is 325 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: eceptionally low in the nutrient iodine, and particularly our women 326 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,239 Speaker 3: of childbearing ages are a very high risk of idine deficiency, 327 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: which is one of the reasons that thyroid dysfunction is 328 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: so very common here. 329 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: Myself. 330 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: I've had a friend who's lost her thyroid recently, so 331 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: certainly it impacts us. But the key take of message 332 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: is are you getting enough iodine? Listening now, we used 333 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: to wash the milk processing equipment in a solution that 334 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: contained iodine, so we would get it often through dairy, 335 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: but that process has changed so we don't get as 336 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: much in dairy anymore, although we do get some. But 337 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: the richest dietary sauce is to just tick the box 338 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: on our iodi salt. Now, I would suggest when you're 339 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: making salad, dressing or using soli at home to season 340 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: that you use the one that has added iodine to it, 341 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: because I think the risk of idin is or thiroid 342 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: issues are much higher than the risk of having a 343 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: bit too much salt. If you're having salt with fresh 344 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: food like salad and soup, I'm not concerned. But the 345 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: other rich sources are shellfish, so things like your pols, 346 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: oysters or seafood. Seaweed a very rich sauce, So if 347 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: you like seaweed snacks, is she a great way to 348 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: get some. And we do get a little from dairy 349 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: and a little from bread, but certainly I'd be hoping 350 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: that you would at least be getting some of my 351 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: die salt or seafood on a daily basis to check 352 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: the box, particularly if you're a female and going through 353 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: those child bearing years, because it has a significant impacts 354 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: of cognitive development and children and metabolic function long term. 355 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: The next one land that surprised me was vitamin E 356 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: and estimated that five billion or sixty seven percent of 357 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: the world's population is low or deficient in vitamin E, 358 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: and I hadn't actually heard that before. 359 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: Now. 360 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: The truth is that vitamin E is also only found 361 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: in a small handful of foods, including nuts, seeds, and eggs, 362 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: which means if you don't eat nuts and seeds often 363 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: and are in a country perhaps it doesn't have access 364 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: to eggs, it is certainly an issue. So my take 365 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: home message for that is if you're using extraversion olive oil, 366 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: avocado or avocado oil, and you're cooking and have a 367 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: serve of nuts and seeds each day, which is certainly 368 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: what Leanna and I recommend for good health, you would 369 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: be getting that. But it's certainly worth checking because if 370 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: you don't like nuts or eggs, for example, it's only 371 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: in a small handful of foods. Apart from that, have 372 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: I missed anything else that's in quite avenue? 373 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't think. No, it's mostly nuts, seeds and eggs. 374 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: And when you think. 375 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: About that that as a country like Australia, we're very fortunate, 376 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: but in somewhere like a third world country, those are 377 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: very expensive items. And I know, I look, you know 378 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: clients even in Australia that wouldn't be able to afford 379 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: to have nuts and seeds every single day. And then 380 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: things like eggs, I just I guess what country like 381 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: if you're not a country that regularly eats eggs, or 382 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: they're not found that regularly there, or maybe you've got allergies, 383 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: those sorts of things can impact it as well. But 384 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: I think nuts and seeds are the most prevalent source, 385 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: and they are expensive types of foods, and so I think, 386 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, vitamin is a really powerful anti inflammatory nutrient 387 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: as well, So we really want to try to get 388 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: it in through our diet because it is a really 389 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: powerful antioxidant, but like you said, it is mostly found 390 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: in the nuts in the seeds, so really trying to 391 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: focus on getting a good serving of some of that 392 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: in each day a right. 393 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: The next one, it won't come as a surprise to 394 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: our listeners, is calcium, with five billion, or sixty six 395 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: percent of the words population with low or deficient levels. Now, 396 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: calcium is crew for castrong, bones and teeth, also for 397 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: the functioning for heart, the muscles, the nerves, and I 398 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: think in my experience, those at highest risk of people 399 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: who don't consume dairy or I have swapped to plant 400 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: based milks that are not fortified with calcium. So just 401 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: to remind you, if you are someone who prefers almond milk, 402 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: soy milk, oat milk, that you do primarily use one 403 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: that has calcium added. Or if your primary source of 404 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: those plant based milks is from your coffee from a barist, 405 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 3: just check that the brand they're using also has calcium added. 406 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: Certainly a massive issue for peri and postmenopausal women whose 407 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: demands are as high as thirteen hundred milligrams per day. 408 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: But the and the truth is if you haven't had 409 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: it when you're younger and have built that bone strength, 410 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: it really is difficult to build boat again. You know, 411 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: at that level if you've already low have osteopenia. So 412 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: the other I think key message for our listeners is 413 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: if you know that you haven't been a big consumer 414 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: of dairy throughout your adult life, it's probably worth getting 415 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: a bone density scanned to see if you are at 416 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: risk of osteopenia, because at least then you are aware 417 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: of the important of resistance training to build strengthen your bones. 418 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: You may need to take a calcium supplement because it's 419 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: an issue. 420 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 4: You'll know people who have got. 421 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: Osteoporosis, osteopenia. It comes up all the time even with 422 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: our own clients. So certainly, if you're in your thirties 423 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: or forties and are not massive dairy consumers, it's worth 424 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: getting a bone density scan to see if you are 425 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: at risk, even though we're in a country where those 426 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: nutrients are abundantly available. Other plant based sauces are almonds, 427 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: leafy greens, but really it's in highest quantities that have 428 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: well absorved calcium in dairy food, and our favorite food 429 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: if you are a plant based diet follower is unhuld 430 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: Ha Chahmi Because I think a tablespoon's got like a 431 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: massive like four hundred milligrams or something crazy, or at 432 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: least two hundred. 433 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: I'm probably exaggerating a little bit. 434 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty good for a plant based time. 435 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to add more al tahinim, which. 436 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: You can find in the whole food section of supermarkets 437 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: and find the iron. Again, will not come as a 438 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: surprise to our listeners. Four point nine billion or six 439 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: point five percent of the world's population has low or 440 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: deficient iron levels, and again our women of childbearing age 441 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: at high risk. I think about twenty five percent of 442 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: Australian women have low iron or low iron stores. 443 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: Which can make you feel incredibly fatigued. And if you're 444 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: a sporadic red meat eater. 445 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: So you have a hamburger, sorry hamburger or steak once 446 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: a week, you're probably at highest risk, even more so 447 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: than those on a plant based diet, because if you 448 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 3: do include meat in your diet, we need small amounts 449 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 3: three or four times a week to give the body 450 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: access to well absorbed iron. So if you are feeling 451 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 3: a little bit tired or have been told that your 452 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: stores are a bit on the low side but not 453 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: low enough to warrant and infusion, certainly be making sure 454 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: that you're having some lean cutlets or a hamburger patty 455 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 3: or lean mintce or sausages a little bit more through 456 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: the week. That is your best way to boost your 457 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: intake of well absorbed dietary iron. 458 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: And things like your baked beans, eggs, legumes. 459 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: What else that green leafy vegues. 460 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, got a little bit, so certainly bumping that up. 461 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: But if your stores are low and you do it 462 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: red meat, you really got to go and have more 463 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: red meat. Basically you're not going to have to chop 464 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: it up with it with plant based foods as efficiently. 465 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: And in my clinical experience, und. 466 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: I actually don't have issues with iron with my plant 467 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: based eaters. It's only my meat eaters I tend to 468 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: have issues because they have it sporadically and they don't 469 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: have it as often as they need to be optimally absorbed. 470 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: I must say. 471 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: They're saying, most of my ladies who I have who 472 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: have iron deficiencies are like you said, sporadic meat eaters, 473 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: or they don't eat meat, but they'll happily have like 474 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: chicken or seafood, and so it's really hard to get 475 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: it in. And because they're not plant based or vegetarian, 476 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: they don't eat a ton of beans and legumes. And 477 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: we do know that really great sources of plant based 478 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: iron are beans and legumes, nuts and seeds. My favorite 479 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: combo is dried chickpeas and dried apricots, as like a 480 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: little bit of a snack that can have some good 481 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: amounts of plant based iron in it as well, and 482 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: really making sure that you're having that with a vitamin 483 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: C sauce, such as you know, squeezing some lemon juice 484 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: on your salads, tomatoes, capsicums, that sort of thing can 485 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: really be helpful if you're going to have it with 486 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: a plant based sauce to really improve the uptake of 487 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: that plant based iron as well. So that's what'll be 488 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: the only one that didn't surprise me. And if you're 489 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a runner, particularly more like a longer distance runner, it's 490 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: something to do with the heel strike, isn't it. When 491 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: you're a long distance runner. A lot of runners have 492 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: issues with their iron. Or if you're a female that 493 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: has very heavy periods, So say you're changing your paddle 494 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: tambo on every sort of two hours or so, that 495 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: would be considered quite a heavy flow and I would 496 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: be encouraging you to go and see somebody such as 497 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: a doctor or ganecologist just to get checked out in 498 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: the AOK because that is it is considered a very 499 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: heavy flow and you do lose a lot of iron, 500 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: particularly if that is a regular occurrence for you to have. 501 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: And I do have a lot of my clients regularly 502 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: on iron supplements because their mental cycles are are very heavy. 503 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: So it is something I'm concerned, and I like you, Susie, 504 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: I do have quite a lot of my ladies who 505 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: come to me with low iron as well, and it 506 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: does take a little bit to optimize that in their diet. 507 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: But there are certainly a lot of tips and strategies 508 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: we can do from a nutrition perspective. But I must 509 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: say I don't think in my whole clinical career over 510 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: a decade now, I've ever seen a client who was 511 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: low in vitamin EAR. 512 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: It's quite rare. 513 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Also to see what was the other one you mentioned, 514 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Idine Like, I'm not It's not something I ever send 515 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: someone to test for unless they do have a background 516 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: of that thiro disorder. But it is certainly something I 517 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: will talk about with my ladies if they are considering, 518 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, having a baby suit. But you will find 519 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: ID in the bulk of the prenatal supplements anyway, So 520 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: it's not as long as you're sort of taking those prenatals. 521 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's too much for concern they're either, 522 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: but definitely calcium is another big one, as you mentioned, 523 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: once you're sort of in those peri or metopause or years. 524 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: Thirteen hundred milligrams of calcium a day is a lot 525 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: of calcium, like if you're not having dairy. Like if 526 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: any of my clients do not have dairy, I have 527 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: them mon a calcium supplement. If they're sort of fifty 528 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: five years plus and they don't drink dairy or the 529 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: milk that they drink isn't fortified, absolutely, I've got them 530 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: on a calcium supplement. There's no way you're going to 531 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: achieve thirteen hundred milligrams of calcium purely through diet unless 532 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: you're chugging through like kilos of like spinach or pale 533 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: ea today, and even then we're not quite sure how 534 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: much that is absorbable calcium as well. So it's a 535 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: real the really hard sog to get thirteen hundred milligrams, 536 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: and it's about four serves of dairyes, so it's a 537 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: tub of yogurt, two cups of milk, and a couple 538 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: of slices of cheese every single day to be getting 539 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: in that thirteen hundred milligrams, it's really tough. So a 540 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: really good conversation to be having with your doctor or 541 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: dietisian if you are sort of in that late fifties 542 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: to sixty plus age bracket, because you really want to 543 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: make sure you're doing some form of resistance space training 544 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: plus getting enough calcium into your diet as well to 545 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: really support your bone and muscle health. 546 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: And just remind me which is the better absorb calcium, 547 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: because you know how there's a different tied is it 548 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: calcium carbonate or site trait? Isn't it calcium site trates 549 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: to better on that trim. 550 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a conversation for your pharmacist. It's definitely 551 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: their area. 552 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to google that in a second when 553 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: we're talking about something else, because there is definitely one 554 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: that absorbs better in supplements to check. Because le's be honest, 555 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: you have to be careful with supplements. You're paying with money. 556 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: You want one that is the best optimally. 557 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 4: Absorbed if your goal is that. 558 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: So why you're talking to us about veggie fries Land, 559 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna look that up. 560 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: Wonderful. 561 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: All right, Well, the thing that we've got to discuss. 562 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Our product of the week is from wil West. 563 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 564 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: I imagine it's in Coals as well. It's the McCain. 565 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: These guys are frozen so pub style like crispy cauliflower fries. 566 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: So the pack is five hundred grams and they're saying 567 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: a serving size is one hundred gram so there's five 568 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: servings per packet. 569 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: Now these are six. 570 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: Dollars fifty so not inexpensive, but like most things, if 571 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: it's more of that quote unquote healthier product, you're certainly, 572 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, paying a little bit more for it than 573 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: normal fries. But I will say, like frozen chips have 574 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: gone up quite significantly. Even the home brand varieties in 575 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Coals and Wolves have gone up quite significantly. I think 576 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: in one stage there was like a potato shortage or 577 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: something wasn't there, and I just don't like the prices 578 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: haven't really come back down since then. Like a home 579 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: brand bag of frozen potato chips, I think it's like 580 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: four fifty five dollars anyway, So these aren't I guess 581 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: when you're comparing that they're sort of on the same 582 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: playing field. I guess a dollar or so more, But 583 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: I guess they are only five hundred grams, right. I 584 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: think a lot of the frozen potato chips are perhaps 585 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: cequila a little bit more, maybe. 586 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 4: Seven fifty to a quilo. I think you're only at 587 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: all worse. I can't find them in. 588 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Cold Okay, so will was only six fifty four the 589 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: five hundred gram bag. When we look at the ingredients, 590 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: they've got a three point five health Star rating on them, 591 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: which you would think judging by the fact that you 592 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: would pick these up and one would naturally assume that 593 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: they're a healthier version, right, because they've got cauliflower in them, 594 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: I would expect that health stars to be higher because 595 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: we know that how the health Star system works is 596 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: it rates similar products in that category. So what it's 597 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: doing is it's rating the cauliflower chips against any other 598 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: types of frozen chips as well. So we've got cauliflower 599 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: at forty three percent, followed by potato, and interestingly they 600 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: don't mention how much potato, So cauliflower forty three percent 601 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: followed by potato. Then we've got potato flakes, wheat flour, onion, 602 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: vegetable oil, maize, starch, water, salt, vegetable gum, sugar, little 603 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: bit of citrus fiber, little bit of glucose syrup, raising 604 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: Asian onion, powdered garlic, powder, spice, and yeast. So not 605 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: low fodmap for those with little sensitive tummies. There's some 606 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: onion and some garlic in there. But I would assume 607 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: if thequliflowers at forty three percent, potatoes probably twenty thirty percent, 608 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: So it's heavily made up of the coating because when 609 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: you look at I'll go through the nutrition information in 610 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: a second, but just based off the percentages of the 611 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: ingredient list, if cauliflower is the main ingredient at forty 612 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: three percent, potato has to be less than that. I'm 613 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: going to assume somewhere around the thirtieth percentile that makes 614 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: up say or maybe even the twentieth roughly sixty to 615 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: seventy percent total, and then the rest of that has 616 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: to be some sort of the coating on it, so 617 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: they're sort of coated or battered. I imagine you put 618 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: them in like the air fry or into the uven 619 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: or something. So when you look at the nutritionals per 620 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: serving is one hundred gram serving, so you're getting five 621 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: serves out of the pack. Energy wise, you've got per 622 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: serve eight hundred kilodels, with two point nine grams of protein, 623 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: nine point one gram of fat, so quite a high 624 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: fat product, with one point two gram of that being 625 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: saturated fat. Twenty three grams of carbohydrate, so certainly less 626 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: than what a regular potato chip would be because cauliflowers 627 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: significantly less carbohydrate than what potato is, So twenty three 628 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: grams of carb for the serve with three grams of sugar. 629 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: They haven't listed dietary fiber. I imagine there's a little 630 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: bit in there, probably not a whole lot, and about 631 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: three hundred milligrams of sodium, so there is added salt 632 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: in here, but nothing overly you know, significant in there anyway. 633 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: So that is the McCain pubstyle crispy cauliflower fries. How 634 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: do you feel about the susie, I am quite surprised. 635 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: I think they're quite high calorie for what they are. 636 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: I would think that they're I would think that they're leaner. 637 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: I don't like them. They're like forty vegetable. 638 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would think they would be a little 639 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: bit leaner. I think if you're going to have some fries, 640 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: I'd just rather normal potato chips and put a bit 641 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: of fresh cauliflower on the side. If I'm being honest, 642 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: I'd rather make my own like. 643 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: Forty three percent cauliflower, like it's sixty percent. 644 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Other crap, it's potato. Yeah. 645 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: I think people are a bit stunned by the quliflower. 646 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: They think, oh, the cauliflowers, you know, a much healthier choice, 647 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: But honestly not on paper, they don't look that much healthy. 648 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: They're quite high fat. 649 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: Nine grams are fat for one hundred grams serving, and 650 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: a product like this is pretty high, and I think 651 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: a lot of people would then add a bit of 652 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: oil and throw them in the air fryer or something 653 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: so in the oven. And eight hundred kilojels for a 654 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: serving as well. I think if I was gonna have 655 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: eight hundred kilo jews, i'd rather just straight potato. Wouldn't 656 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: want to mess it up with cauliflower. 657 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 658 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: I think they're appalling, like forty three percent, and they've 659 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: got a broccoli version as well, equally as low, so 660 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: they're basically a bit of broccoli or cauliflower and writing 661 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: off that and then filling it up with potato and 662 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: just fillers glucose everything. So if you want chips, just 663 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: get whatever you like, zucchini, broccoli, stick it in the 664 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: air fry, and if you want a crumb, just put 665 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: it to a multi green crumb or even a panco 666 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: if you wanted to put your own crumb on it, 667 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: which'd be a million times better. And broccoli is quite 668 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: relatively cheap at the moment, like and zucchini. I just 669 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: think it's I don't like how they get a bit 670 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: of it. 671 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: It's like chips. They get a bit of. 672 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: Vegetable and then act like they're healthy. These are not healthy. 673 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: After we found those straight roots chip, what are those 674 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: strong roots chips which are like ninety eight percent potato. 675 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: They're delicious, Like yeah, it's a hard note for me, 676 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: And I just think I don't like how they masquerade 677 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: it is healthy, probably tasteful because they've got so much 678 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: stuff in them. 679 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: Well, I think forty three percent is a lot better 680 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: than say I've seen some of those like clients at 681 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: me a green wrap the other day. 682 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: I think we're supposed to be like a spinach. 683 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: Trap, but it was sutally like four percent spinach, so 684 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: at least it's better than that. It was awful, I 685 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: said to I think they just added a bit of 686 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: green food crown. 687 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 688 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: I would rather have normal potato chips and add some 689 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: cauliflower brocoli to the side of that to kind of, 690 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, balance out my plate a little bit. That 691 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: would be my option. I wouldn't want to be paying 692 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: six dollars fifty four, you know, only a little bit 693 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: of cauliflower that's then crumbed and batted anyway, So I 694 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: get that it might be And even from like if 695 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: you were following, say a low carb or a kidagenic diet, 696 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: it's still too high because they've still got the potato 697 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: and the potato flakes and the flower in there. So 698 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: there's yeah, twenty three grams of carb perserved, which is 699 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: completely fine if you're a normal individual, but if you're 700 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: actively trying to follow a kidogenic or a low carb diart, 701 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: it's probably a bit too much. 702 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: We'll keep it. 703 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: My broccoli has got literally no carb, So yeah, I think. 704 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: That's the potato and the potato. 705 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just masquerading as healthy. It's disappointing. Like, do 706 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: it well, if you're going to do it, don't you 707 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: know use to make this processed, so it's a high 708 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: it's not ultra process, but it's pretty up there. 709 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, hard no from me, So I'm sorry. 710 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: If you like your broccoli, better to put in their 711 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: fi with your own crumb and do it that way. 712 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: I've got some good veggi chips, actually I'll share them. 713 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: They're easy to make too. But I just will come 714 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: back with the calcium question, Leanne. It appears it's very complicated. 715 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: It appears we need a whole segment on calcium supplements 716 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: because it's complicated. So I'll come back to that next 717 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: week and we'll go through all the types, what's absorbed, 718 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: how to work a good one because it's actually a 719 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: whole page of Mayo Health Clinic. 720 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: I normally like to send my clients back to the 721 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: pharmacist because, particularly if they are taking other types of 722 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: medication or they've got other types of conditions, it is 723 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: always good to touch base with someone such as a 724 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: doctor or a pharmacy to make sure there's no interactions. 725 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: You're taking the right type, you're taking the right dose. 726 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: So we will cover it in another podcast but I 727 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: do feel like if you do have other medical conditions, 728 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: and you do have other medications that you take, if 729 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, a calcium tablet's the only thing you're taking 730 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: on iron tablet is the only thing you're taking, no 731 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: real concerns. But when you are taking a couple of 732 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: different things, there's a couple of conditions at play. I 733 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: do think it's really important to have a good chat 734 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: with your pharmacists or with a doctor as well. 735 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: Because you can have too much like it's actually contraindicated 736 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: sometimes with heart conditions. But we will cover that in 737 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: great details. So for anyone taking calcium supplements, we will 738 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: go through it all next week. But the end off 739 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: the back of that smoothie smoothie season, and I've had 740 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: quite a few clients ask me for breakfast alternatives. Now, 741 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: the first thing we would say is keep in mind 742 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: that the research with breakfast shows that non sweet breakfast 743 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 3: are better when it comes to society and glue post control. 744 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: So one of the things you do have to be 745 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: careful of when mixing a balance smoothie is it's really 746 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: easy to create a product that's healthy and pactfully healthy 747 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: ingredients but has a massive amount of carbohydrate because if 748 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: you use. 749 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: Milk, regular milk or even an oat milk, if. 750 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: You then add a bit of fruit to it, if 751 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: you then add a little bit of sweetness from a syrup, 752 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: if you're adding yogurt, you're getting four or five sources 753 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: of carbohydrate. And smoothies can come out at sixty to 754 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: eighty grams of card per day, which is a pretty 755 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: typical one that you would buy from any of the 756 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: sort of health food stores. They're all about sixty eighty grams, 757 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: which is upwards of the sort of close to what 758 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: some women needing an entire day. So the smoothie recipe 759 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: that I will use with my clients, and it is 760 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: important because you can very easily put too much of 761 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: the vegetables, for example, and end up with something that 762 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: tastes not so pleasant. 763 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: I would say you. 764 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: Want twenty to thirty grams of protein minimum, So you 765 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: can either use a protein powder now designed by dieticians, 766 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: is a vanilla flavored protein. 767 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: You'll get about twenty grams per serve there. 768 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: Or if you are using just a skim milk or 769 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: a milk with say a protein yoget like a yoprol 770 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: or shabani that will give you at least twenty, if 771 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: not closeer to thirty grams of protein. 772 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go above that. 773 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: There's no point having forty to fifty grams of protein 774 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: for small women. Then with your fruit, you've got to 775 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: be careful because berries don't have as much carbohydrate or 776 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: sugar as some other fruits. So if you're using berries 777 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: and then you want to do banana as well for 778 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: a bit of extra sweetness, you might only need a 779 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: halfy with a banana. Then I would say, if you 780 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: want to add a vegetable, you can't add like two cups. 781 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: It's going to really taint it. So a small handful 782 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: of people, and then I end out with like sludge. 783 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: So a small I would say a handful of like 784 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: a spinach, Like when I'm doing one, I'll just grab 785 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: a small handful of spinach and chuck it in and 786 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 3: that's enough. Like you don't need to then add like 787 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: as well with spinach, like you just do one. I 788 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: say one green vegetable, and then I say one fat 789 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: sauce so chia, lsa avocado or all fat sauces. 790 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: You don't need them all, and. 791 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: Particularly say flaxea chia LSA are all pretty similar as 792 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: the and peanut, butter, peb they're all fats, so you 793 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: don't need all of them, so you just need I'd 794 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: say usually about one or two tea spoons, whether it's 795 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: LSA or flax seed or of a nutspread or whatever. 796 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: I certainly wouldn't do more than one chea the same. 797 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: You don't need chea and flax seed just one, and 798 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: a serve is about a couple of tea spoons. And 799 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: then if you want extra sweetness, I think make the 800 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: most of those sugar free type syrups like the maple syrup. 801 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: You can get that sugar free, and then you don't 802 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: have to you're not getting honey and other things. That's 803 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: adding more concentrated carbohydrate. But that's my sort of general formula. 804 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: It's like a server of protein, a milk of choice, 805 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: some green sort of veggie, a server of fruit, and 806 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 3: then one fat and that'll give you about a three 807 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: fifty four hundred cowsmoothie. You're just looking at me, Is 808 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 3: that all right? Is that a good formula? 809 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 810 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna say, based on your abbreviation. 811 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: Landputs two cups of spinach in hers. 812 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: Now I generally say to my clients one veggie as well, 813 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: I say half a zuochia are a cup of spinach. 814 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: But I I was making a face because I don't 815 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: love those sugar free syrups. I'm not a fan. I 816 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: find that using a scoop of our designed by dietitians 817 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: protein powder little you know, little press for that one, 818 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: we like that that adds sweetness to it. And then 819 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: any fruit of choice I like to add as a carbohydrates. 820 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: We're getting a bit of fiber and nutrients and antioxidants 821 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: from our berry. So I find that the sweetness from 822 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: the fruit and the protein powder together is enough. I'm 823 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: not a fan of those the sugar free syrups. I 824 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: just I personally find the taste of them they're a 825 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: bit too much to me. And I don't want my 826 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: clients having two sweet things at breakfast ee that I 827 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: prefer it to be a little bit more on the 828 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: mellow side in terms of sweetness. We don't want to 829 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: overly sweet because, as you said, the research points towards 830 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: the savory breakfast being better for satiation and blood sugar 831 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: regulation as well. The only other thing I will say 832 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: is LSA for our listeners at home. I've been using 833 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: it in a couple of recipes online and a lot 834 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: of clients have been, particularly overseas. I don't think that 835 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: in some countries it's available, they don't know what it is. 836 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: I've had so many people say to me, what is LSA. 837 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: So it's a blend that we have here in Australia. 838 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: It stands for linse seeds, sunflower and almond, so it's 839 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: ground up almonds, sunflower seeds and lind seeds and it's 840 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: a blender mix of the ground. So I always say, 841 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: if you don't have LSA in your country, or you're 842 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: not sure what it is, I don't expect people to 843 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: go and blend up three types of nuts and seeds 844 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: and put it together into a mix. I say, just 845 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: suburt four flex meal, I think is probably the closest 846 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: substitute for it. So I like you, I'm a huge 847 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: fan of flax, huge fan of cheer or. I do 848 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: use LSA or I love to use a little bit 849 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: of peanut butter or almond butter as well for my 850 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: good fat serve. And then I also tend to add 851 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: in a bit of oats because I I like oats 852 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: They're good from a cholesterol perspective. They're really good in 853 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: terms of fiber. They are slow digesting carbohydrate. I love them, 854 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: and they helped the thick and smoothies a little bit 855 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: as well. But I do like to balance out the 856 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: amount of fruit and oats that I use. I won't 857 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: do a huge group of oats plus a banana plus berries, 858 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: like You'll just be conscious that that is all contributing carbohydrate, 859 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: which is fine if I've got a super super active 860 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: client or a bit of a liner client. But if 861 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: I do have somebody who doesn't move much, who has 862 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: a desk job, and who has a little bit of, 863 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: say into them resistance or you know, diabetes or something 864 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: like that, I will be conscious of the amount of carbs. 865 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: So I'll balance out maybe a couple of tablespoons of 866 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: oats with a handful of berries and you know, another 867 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: small piece of fruit like a Kiwi fruit or something. 868 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: I think it's always good and a smoothie. 869 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: And I often see an Aldi because some of those 870 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 3: nuts and seed mixes can be really expensive. But I 871 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: noticed that the LSA mix in Audi is quite affordable, 872 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: and I bought it when I was doing a recipe 873 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: shoot and I used it as a crumb fish itzl 874 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: and it came. 875 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: Out really well. 876 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 3: So that's another good way of using it, you know, 877 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: as an alternative to say pancoa. 878 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 4: Which is refined carbohydrate. 879 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 3: It gave it a really lovely nutty taste and a 880 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: good way to get some good fats in. So yeah, 881 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: you can also use it as an alternative healthier crumb 882 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: fish chicken or whatever. 883 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: Really, And speaking of those audi those seeds, I love 884 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: the hemp seeds from there for my little girls because 885 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: whenever my girls love avatoast, I do avatoast and I 886 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 1: sprinkle hemp seeds on top of it and a little 887 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: squeeze of lemon because that just gives that little bit 888 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: of sort of plant based on And sometimes I mash 889 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: up my black beans and put it with the avocado 890 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: and the hemp seeds on top. So hemp seeds I'm 891 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: a massive fan for for little kids because they are 892 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: so good in terms of the plant based amigas as well. 893 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: And remember us of PB is one or two tea spoons, 894 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: not one or two tablespoons, especially if you're key to 895 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 3: lean up. 896 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: It depends who you're talking to. Susie. 897 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: Wow. 898 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say we have been too much of it, 899 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 3: So just watch your serving sizes. 900 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: So delicious, all right. 901 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: That brings us to the end of the Nutrition Couch 902 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: for another week, So you can censor your amount of 903 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: PB if you choose to, or if you choose not to, 904 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: carry on your merry way brings us to the end 905 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: of another episode for another week. 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