WEBVTT - Sophie Cachia's Quality Control, Abbie Chatfield's Open Relationship & Mitch Orval's New Venture

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<v Speaker 1>This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba.

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<v Speaker 2>We're identical triplets, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so app fetch, thank you, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Outspoken Now. It hasn't been a great week for influences

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<v Speaker 1>in the wild. Two have been caught out this week

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<v Speaker 1>without their debit cards or purses while trying to buy items.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first was Molly May and she drove twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes from her house to get McDonald's, only to discover

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<v Speaker 1>she had forgotten to bring her purse. And to add

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<v Speaker 1>insult to injury, she had her period and was really

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<v Speaker 1>craving McDonald's. And she also tried to purchase the meal

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<v Speaker 1>on her Apple pay and it got rejected. So I

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<v Speaker 1>always feel so embarrassed when my credit card gets declined,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think she was just an absolute ball of nerves.

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<v Speaker 1>She ended up having to ring her manager to ask

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<v Speaker 1>what to do in the situation, and her manager was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you check your car to see if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got any coins in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what she did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was able to scrounge five pound twenty so

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<v Speaker 1>she did manage to get a meal. But the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>thing was she seemed really self conscious on what the

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<v Speaker 1>person at McDonald's, the one who was serving her, was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought the whole time, can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if you were that kid at McDonald's and you recognize

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<v Speaker 1>Molly May and she's been coppying all this shit for

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<v Speaker 1>her insensitive twenty four hours in a day comment. The

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<v Speaker 1>funniest bit is she's in her massive, expensive car and

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<v Speaker 1>she's obviously filming herself too, So I really wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>the boy that served her was thinking. If it was me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I'm not giving.

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<v Speaker 2>This woman a meal for free. She can obviously afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you love how much money you can actually scrounge

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<v Speaker 1>in your car when you really need to, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always shocked when I'm ever in that situation where I

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<v Speaker 1>need to pay for a parking ticket or something and

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of extra dollars you have lying around the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Straight, No, I feel like we.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to go to grab from Molly May because her

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to the whole ordeal was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>I left my money at home. I left my money

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<v Speaker 3>at home.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so embarrassed. I'm actually so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>That was so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>The poor boy, the poor boy was just staring at me, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you want me to do about a hunt?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not giving you a frame with donald Oh dude, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>that was embarrassing. Okay, okay, I just got a new

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<v Speaker 3>card and I just added it to my my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>But it didn't work. It didn't work.

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<v Speaker 4>Such too fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Some places don't accept this type of card. So now

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, is this God telling me that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need him at Donalds to night?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is how you guys would react,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have been in that instance. Actually today I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot my Booper card at the Optic and I was

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed, Like, I thought, do I go back?

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like when it.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes to a meal and you're really craving it, I

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<v Speaker 1>would go back and suffer the embarrassment. Well, she did

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<v Speaker 1>say to the Matt Donald's worker, Oh, can you just

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<v Speaker 1>put that to the side. I will come back and

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I've done that before at the supermarket

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<v Speaker 1>where my card hasn't gone through and I've said no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back, and i haven't come back out of

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<v Speaker 1>pure embarrassment. Well, the other influencer who had a similar

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<v Speaker 1>situation this week was Sarah's Dye Now. She did a

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<v Speaker 1>huge shop at chemist Warehouse for essentials to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>the birth of her baby, which is coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>the next few weeks, and she went to the counter

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<v Speaker 1>and realized that she also had no card. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I loved was she lied and said she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to the car to see if her wallet was in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, But she was just doing that because she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to leave the embarrassing situation and did not go

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<v Speaker 1>back in.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually forgotten my money. But I've got this. This

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<v Speaker 3>might work, it might not. Can you can I hold

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<v Speaker 3>my older because I will actually come back. What time

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<v Speaker 3>do you shut?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll come back. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophiicacia and Mia Plask's latest business venture has hit a

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<v Speaker 1>hurdle on its first launch. Their gender neutral cosmetic brand

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<v Speaker 1>of Suru was forced to apologize after the former Mummy

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<v Speaker 1>bloggers shared a video of herself undertaking quality control in

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<v Speaker 1>their warehouse. In the video, she has seen maskless and

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<v Speaker 1>gloveless as she rubs her nose with lipstick in her hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into the drama, Cake, can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about Sophie and MIA's new business?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, just for.

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<v Speaker 1>Some background, Sophie Kaisha, as we said, is a former

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<v Speaker 1>mummy vlogger turned entrepreneur who runs a successful pajama brand

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<v Speaker 1>called Kasha. And as for me, she is a founder

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<v Speaker 1>and CEO of Slick Hair Company. Now. They both have

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<v Speaker 1>had their fair share of controversies, so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Kisha tried to distance herself from Mia Plastic last

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<v Speaker 1>year after the Slickstick owner shared her anti vax views. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the little hiccup, the pair have joined forces to

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<v Speaker 1>launch a new gender neutral cosmetic brand called.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Suru Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The word is Suru is Japanese and translates to mean

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<v Speaker 1>to love, to care for, to have affection for. Brand's

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<v Speaker 1>motto is beauty for all humans, and they list their

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<v Speaker 1>values as inclusivity, visibility, and acceptance in the mainstream market now,

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<v Speaker 1>the brand says that they're here to disrupt the market

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<v Speaker 1>and want every human to embrace self expression at any age.

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<v Speaker 1>On the website, it says one dollar from every sale

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<v Speaker 1>of a product will be donated to a selected charity,

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<v Speaker 1>with it alternating every six months. Now. When I took

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<v Speaker 1>a look at their website, it was very inclusive and

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<v Speaker 1>featured images of trans women, non binary people, and older women. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to their brand, I don't really think

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<v Speaker 1>it's on point.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of looks a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a tech brand, and a member of our Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>group actually pointed out that the website looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>big W website and when you do have a look,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot unsee it. It just really has big W vibes,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems odd for a cosmetics company. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really appears that Sophie and Mia are jumping on board

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<v Speaker 1>this gender neutral beauty trend, which is really big in

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<v Speaker 1>the market. So brands that are already doing a great

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<v Speaker 1>job of it so far. Our YouTuber Patrick Stars brand

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<v Speaker 1>one Size, along with we Are Fluid two Deep Beauty,

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<v Speaker 1>and also Rhianna's fenty Now. The first launch featured three

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<v Speaker 1>nude lipsticks which cost thirty four to ninety five each

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<v Speaker 1>or eighty nine ninety five for a pack of three,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was really surprised that they went with nude

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<v Speaker 1>lipsticks to start with because the term nude in the

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<v Speaker 1>makeup world is considered a light skin color, so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the term doesn't really seem on brand, considering they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to push inclusivity. And it also did surprise me that

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<v Speaker 1>their first product was a lipstick, considering we have to

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<v Speaker 1>wear masks in public now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Though, it could be a case of Sophie and Me

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<v Speaker 1>are banking on the lipstick effect. So for those who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard about it, the theory is that consumers are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to buy less costly luxury goods.

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<v Speaker 2>During an economic crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, instead of buying a designer handbag, people are

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<v Speaker 1>more willing to buy an expensive lipstick instead. And during

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the economic declines, we have seen that

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<v Speaker 1>lipstick sales have gone up a lot, so maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>banking on this being the case for the pandemic. I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume though, ellipstick would be a good beauty item

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<v Speaker 1>to test as well, because it wouldn't be that expensive

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<v Speaker 1>to have made. And if you look at what Me

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<v Speaker 1>has done previously with the slickstick that was a white

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<v Speaker 1>label product, that she just needed to put her branding on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if this lipstick is also a white label product,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the easiest.

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<v Speaker 2>One to push ower.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting you say that, Amy, because they're touting their

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<v Speaker 1>products as Australian made, cruelty free, vegan and obviously they

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<v Speaker 1>think by saying that they can put the thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollar price mark, because thirty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very expensive for ellipstick.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this their target audience the people that follow them,

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<v Speaker 1>because they seem to be going for a very woke audience.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like a lot of woke people don't

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<v Speaker 1>particularly like me A plastic and Sophicacia. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the same thing, and when I did a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a research into gender neutral cosmetics, it really

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it's the up and coming thing and something

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people are jumping on board with, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is really really great.

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<v Speaker 1>However, I was surprised with the branding because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>avert that, oh, this is a product for everyone, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>someone like Fenti, their messaging is more subtle. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>very inclusive language, and I don't know, I personally thought

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<v Speaker 1>that more being subtle about it would be better marketing

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<v Speaker 1>to make it feel like this is just an everyday,

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<v Speaker 1>every human thing. It seems more genuine, doesn't it the

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<v Speaker 1>fente branding. But we've seen the likes of James Charles

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<v Speaker 1>be the face of cosmetic brands, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a space that has been evolving quite a lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not something that you need to be so overt with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more something that you bring into your marketing and think, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we've actually got these two demographics that we can market to.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we do that while being authentic. What does

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<v Speaker 1>seem to have overshadowed this launch, though, is an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>story that Sophie Keisha shared this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. She shared a.

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<v Speaker 1>Video of herself quality testing lipsticks before they were packed

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<v Speaker 1>and shipped. In the video, she explains that she is

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<v Speaker 1>individually going through ten thousand lipsticks to ensure there are

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<v Speaker 1>no duds now. In the vision, Sophie is not wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a mask, gloves, or hairnet and is seen wiping her

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<v Speaker 1>nose with a lipstick in her hand.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help but laugh at this video.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty ironic because the video is captioned something I

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<v Speaker 1>learned from my business partner Acacia is the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>quality control. Now, it doesn't seem like too much quality

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<v Speaker 1>control is going into place if you are actually wiping

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<v Speaker 1>your nose with the product, not actually wearing safety equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in a pandemic. When I saw that, I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>what on earth is she thinking? What possessed her to

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<v Speaker 1>post this video? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Where was anybody telling her within her team? Hate? I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a really good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The video has caused a lot of backlash, with

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<v Speaker 1>many people asking ISUU for a statement on their safety breach,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did reply to some of the concerns on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>One of their responses read as a small new business,

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<v Speaker 1>we have definitely taken this on board and reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to a manufacturers who gave us the best practices to

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<v Speaker 1>use moving forward. So then on Wednesday, they took it

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<v Speaker 1>a step further and shared a post on their Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>story which read, the team at Asuru would like to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the concerns of our customers regarding a video that

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<v Speaker 1>was shared this week by one of our company directors.

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<v Speaker 1>We acknowledge that this wasn't the best practice nor aligned

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<v Speaker 1>with our policies and procedures. Surrounding the safe handling of products.

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<v Speaker 1>Working in partnership with our contract manufacturers, we have reinforced

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<v Speaker 1>the strict processes and protocols to our staff members to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure mistakes like this aren't made again. It is important

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<v Speaker 1>to note that the specific batch of lipsticks handled that

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<v Speaker 1>morning have been disposed of. We thank you for your feedback. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys actually think that the lipsticks were disposed of? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of lipsticks, isn't it If it was

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand that Sophie went through, particularly for a startup, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly for someone that in the comments has said we

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<v Speaker 1>are a new business and we are learning. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that. Like usually with a first drop, you only

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<v Speaker 1>purchase a small amount of products to see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm questioning did they actually really dispose of the

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<v Speaker 1>products or did they dispose of the products? Are only

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie touched? Meaning did she just put that video up

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<v Speaker 1>for a bit of a flex saying that she's looking

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<v Speaker 1>through all the lipsticks, but in fact she's only really

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<v Speaker 1>quality controlled two of them. So they've just got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of those lies. I want to see the lipsticks being

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<v Speaker 1>disposed of. If this actually and if it was ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand or I mean, it seems like a real waste,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it, Like surely they could have gifted them to

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when they.

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<v Speaker 1>Say disposed of, they probably have just given them to

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends. You probably hit the nail on the

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<v Speaker 1>head there. I did think it was also quite embarrassing

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<v Speaker 1>how they said that in the statement we've had to

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<v Speaker 1>reinforce the strict process and protocols to our staff members,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when the staff member in question is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the directors of the company who is trying to flex

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<v Speaker 1>and say she s had so much experience with their

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<v Speaker 1>pajama brand. Oh, it was also embarrassing and really not

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<v Speaker 1>a very good first impression for a brand who is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to position themselves in the market as a luxury

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<v Speaker 1>cosmetic brand.

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<v Speaker 2>With thirty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Lipsticks, and if we do some quick maths, if they

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<v Speaker 1>had to get rid of ten thousand of the lipsticks

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<v Speaker 1>priced at thirty four ninety five, that's three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine, five hundred dollars of lost revenue. I do

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<v Speaker 1>find this all very ironic that this has come from

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Kaisha sharing a post trying to convince consumers about

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<v Speaker 1>her brand's quality control.

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<v Speaker 2>I will forget each and every one of you almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you do find yourself at a loose end

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<v Speaker 4>next year, I think it might be nice to pop

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<v Speaker 4>in and see how we're getting on.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't not doing anybody's tea tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Where Chippy.

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<v Speaker 4>Ill our Fish, Jiptum Monkey beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh from selling his Gold Coast mansion, it appears Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Orville is now the part owner of a takeaway store. Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we know so far about Mitch's new venture. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>On Wednesday, a photo of Mitch posing outside Shack Takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>appeared on the store's new Instagram account. The caption read,

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<v Speaker 1>the Shack Takeaway owners, we are so excited to see

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<v Speaker 1>you all very soon once we are open. From Reno's

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<v Speaker 1>keep your eyes peeled now. The store is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the popular Nobby's Beach Strip near Mermaid Beach on the

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Coast, and it was quite interesting to take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at their Instagram account because it shows that Jiglio

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<v Speaker 1>Construction is actually renovating the inside of the store. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that name might sound familiar to you because they also

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<v Speaker 1>renovated the Orvil's house. So many people are wondering how

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<v Speaker 1>hands on Mitch's role will be in this business, and

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<v Speaker 1>some have speculated that he may be an investor or

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<v Speaker 1>financial backer. I mean, I'm assuming he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be making the juices there. No, I don't think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see him front of house. And it is interesting when

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<v Speaker 1>you do take a look at the other three owners

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<v Speaker 1>pictured in the photo, because two of the part owners

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<v Speaker 1>are a married couple who already run a successful juice

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<v Speaker 1>bar and superfood store in the same precinct called Nobby's Shack.

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<v Speaker 1>Also pictured is the CEO of Jiglio Construction, who, as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, is doing the renovations on the takeaway store.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's quite interesting because I feel like the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>and Mitch must be taking more of a strategic approach

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<v Speaker 1>towards the takeaway business. I'm really wondering what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the menu at this takeaway store. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they should sell an iconic smashed avo and fitter toast.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Mitch chanting down on that one of his iconic

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube video.

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<v Speaker 2>The side of chilled moon water or something like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing it's not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be your typical fast food restaurant. It is interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the owners who own Nobby's Shack,

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<v Speaker 1>they also run a cafe that serves immune boosting juices

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<v Speaker 1>and also very nourishing food, So I think it will

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<v Speaker 1>be along the same line of that. Does anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>feel quite happy for Mitch because I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good move from him. He's gone off

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<v Speaker 1>social media, He's starting this business. Yeah. I think starting

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<v Speaker 1>a new business, particularly one in hospitality, isn't an easy task,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think it is great that instead of

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<v Speaker 1>staying in that social media world, which is clearly making

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<v Speaker 1>him incredibly unhappy, he's going and looking at new opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that he would do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great job with this restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so this is the big opportunity then that

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<v Speaker 1>the real estate agent was hinting at, because remember when

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<v Speaker 1>they sold their house, they said, oh, they're moving on

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<v Speaker 1>to bigger and better things. It does make me think

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Mitch is going to jump back on

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<v Speaker 1>social media to promote this or if he's just going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it organic, because I suppose it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a retail thing where you can get your followers to

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<v Speaker 1>buy your products. It's very much you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gold Coast in the Knobby's precinct area. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because it is a takeaway store, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like at the moment that it's a huge franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably just something that he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>take a step back and dip his toe in the

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<v Speaker 1>water of running a business. Obviously, he loves the lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right near the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was his business partners though, I'd be saying

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<v Speaker 1>get back on social media, let's do a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>promotion to get people down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the news broke, there has been some discussion around

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<v Speaker 1>whether Mitch's vaccination status will affect his role at the

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<v Speaker 1>cafe because currently in Queensland, rule state that only vaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>staff and patrons will be allowed to enter hospitality venues

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<v Speaker 1>such as cafes, restaurants and fast food outlets. However, it

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<v Speaker 1>does outline that vaccination isn't required for pays entering food courts.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do wonder if.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of a loophole here for Mitch's venue,

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<v Speaker 1>because it does outline on the Instagram account that it

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<v Speaker 1>is a takeaway only store.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would probably be the loophole.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that being said, the vaccine mandate is currently under

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<v Speaker 1>review by the Queensland government, so it looks like authorities

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<v Speaker 1>are set to make a call on whether they will

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<v Speaker 1>scrap those measures at the end of the month. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be really interesting. But I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>wish Mitch well because I think this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>exciting new venture for him and I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 1>him succeed offline and you know, bring that happiness back

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<v Speaker 1>because he clearly wasn't happy when he was online earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, guys, welcome back to my channel. I hope you're

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<v Speaker 3>all doing wow. So for today's video, I'm coming to

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<v Speaker 3>you with a Valentine's Day inspired it gets ready with me.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday, social media was a wash with Valentine's Day

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<v Speaker 1>posts as influencers shared their loved up moments. Now, have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys noticed there seems to be three types of

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<v Speaker 1>couples on Valentine's Day? So firstly you've got the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that go overboard, then there's the ones that send the

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<v Speaker 1>obligatory flowers, and then there are those who don't sell

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<v Speaker 1>braided at all. Where do you guys fit on this scale?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Amy you were incredibly thoughtful this year

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<v Speaker 1>with Valentine's Day, because I do think as a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>it is difficult to think of a Valentine's Day gift

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<v Speaker 1>for a man. But I feel like you nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a chocolate and beer bouquet because I felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad because Dale always gets me really nice flowers each year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I never know what to get him.

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<v Speaker 2>So the year before I got him.

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<v Speaker 1>A bottle of wine and it just felt a bit flat.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did make the effort.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like girls are a bit more thoughtful with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff they give because you actually made

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<v Speaker 1>that book. Yeah you've missed that point because you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a reel on our Instagram account of you putting it together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was very impressed because really those type of

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<v Speaker 1>baskets can cost a lot of money if you buy

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<v Speaker 1>if you outsource it, but I'm assuming it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit cheaper. Do you know Dale has already eaten

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<v Speaker 1>all of the chocolates from how many ways. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I put it. I put the bouquet outside

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<v Speaker 1>our room and it sort of sat there for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole week. And the whole week it's we're recording on

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<v Speaker 1>a Thursday, Valentine's I was on a Monday four days

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<v Speaker 1>so to get the chocolates to stand up, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to hot glue gun skewers onto the back of chocolates.

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<v Speaker 2>And today I looked and there were just.

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<v Speaker 1>All these empty skewers that were still in the bouquet.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen chocolate bars. They were king size as well. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of chocolate, and there was fair rashers there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's two of those left.

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<v Speaker 1>See for me, I felt a little bit bad at

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you do that because I didn't really go overboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Reese and I more are in that

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<v Speaker 1>category of the obligatory flowers, because Reees got me a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful bunch of roses and a card, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got him a rose like standing up rose bush because

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<v Speaker 1>we really want to put them down the side of

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<v Speaker 1>our house. What about you, Sophie, I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>you and Brandon fall into the overboard category. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say overboard, but okay, hang on. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>say overboard, then what did you What have you got?

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<v Speaker 1>The last two years of Valentine's Days?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that Yeah, it was a bit over the top

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<v Speaker 2>last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not over the top in the sense of

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<v Speaker 1>over the top romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more the we seem to buy each other large.

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<v Speaker 1>Scale gifts as opposed to something expensive gifts as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to something that's romantic. So for Valentine's Day last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon did buy me an expensive lens for my camera.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this year he bought me some sand shoes

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<v Speaker 1>and he did do the flame shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound like you're eighty years old. What Nike Nikes?

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<v Speaker 1>And then a bag of chocolates and flowers and stuff bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Of chocolate, well a little a gift bag.

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<v Speaker 1>That had chocolates in it anyway, So it was very,

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<v Speaker 1>just very And I did buy him a basketball ring

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<v Speaker 1>last year as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so I did, so it was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>over the Time's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I did, because he bought me this expensive lens

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt bad. So basically, your Valentine's Day is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>And Birthday gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if we were to crown the most over

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<v Speaker 1>the top Valentine's Day celebration online, sorry, Sophie, you and

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<v Speaker 1>Brannon don't actually win. It's actually Tommy Fury and Molly

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<v Speaker 1>may A second year in a row. So Tommy put

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<v Speaker 1>men around the world to shame by absolutely spoiling Molly May.

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<v Speaker 1>So he arranged for a car to collect her and

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<v Speaker 1>took her to a five star hotel in London, And

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<v Speaker 1>when she arrived, the room was full of love heart

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<v Speaker 1>balloons and there was a huge bouquet of white roses

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the bed. They then went off to a

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<v Speaker 1>meal to celebrate. Now, this to me sounds like what

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect Valentine's Day? Would you guys want that? I

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<v Speaker 1>have always had a dream of someone putting balloons in

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<v Speaker 1>a room like that. For me, probably from seeing Molly

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<v Speaker 1>May stories. I always thought if I was to get proposed,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously has happened, but I would love someone to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the room with balloons like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it didn't happen. I didn't throw any hints.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, but I think it looked spectacular did It

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<v Speaker 1>just made me think there must be a whole load

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<v Speaker 1>of young girls who follow Molly on Instagram and also Tommy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they must think that this is just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a typical Valentine's Day, and they're going to be very

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed when they get older and they get the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>that gets them the servo station roses, Well, we do

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 1>have to remember there are only twenty two. I do

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 1>wonder what they'll be doing for one another on Valentine's

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Day in ten years time. The skeptic in me wonders, though,

0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 1>are they just doing it for social media and for appearances,

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>because there's so much speculation around whether they're together and

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if they don't post something, people think they've broken up,

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and it almost seems like they have to put on

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>showy stuff to prove that they are in love. Well,

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more pressure on the boyfriends of Instagram

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>on Valentine's Day, isn't there because everyone's sort of waiting

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to see what they get. But Molly also spoiled Tommy.

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>She made him a photo album filled with handwritten notes

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 1>about their relationship, and eagle eyed fans spotted another sign

0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that the pair are serious about having kids. So Molly's

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.880
<v Speaker 1>message read, one day we will have our own family.

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.119
<v Speaker 1>It'll be the best day of my life. Bring on,

0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Mum and dad life. So this follows a Q and

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>A where Molly revealed she doesn't use contraception and relies

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>on the Flow app to track her fertility. And in

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a recent vlog, the vlog we mentioned earlier about McDonald's,

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.160
<v Speaker 1>she confided that she thought she may have been pregnant

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 1>after her period was four days late, but a test

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 1>confirmed she wasn't. Now the Love Island couple that brought

0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.479
<v Speaker 1>us back down to reality was Milly and and they

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 1>were celebrating their first Valentine's Day together. Now it was

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>in stark contrast to the celebration that we saw Molly

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and Tommy have. So Milly informed us on Valentine's Day

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 1>morning that she'd given Liam some after shave, and when

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>she passed that present over, it was quite clear that

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>he had completely forgotten that it was Valentine's Day, and

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he did a dash to Testo to pick up some flowers,

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:26.119
<v Speaker 1>which looked pretty average. Apparently he also picked up some

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day pens as well to add to it pens

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and also a little dessert. So he was clearly trying hard.

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And we you have to remember he is only twenty one,

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>even though he looks about thirty five.

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 2>He is a.

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Twenty one year old boy, and most twenty one year

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>old boys are completely.

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Hopeless, so he clearly didn't think about the gram.

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>No, he wasn't thinking about the ground, but he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made me love them as a couple more because

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Milli later shared a post saying, it's not about expensive

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>gifts and you know, gestures the fact that they can

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>spend the day together just chilling out watching TV. That's

0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.640
<v Speaker 1>what's important to them, just spending time together. Girlfriend says,

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't receive a big budge her, Yes, I think

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the most awkward thing with the influence of boyfriends who

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 1>forget is the fact that all the brands send their

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends really.

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Over the top thing.

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>So you see all those like smash Box Loollie Cakes

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and all this really extravagant stuff, and it's just like,

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>oh God, the brand could even remember and new could.

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>So another love islander who made us all feel a

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit better on Valentine's Day was Olivia Attwood. So

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>she shared a screenshot of a text message exchange between

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>her and her soccer player fiance Brad Dak. Olivia's message read, Brad,

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so angry. I feel like I'm going to pass out.

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you actually joking with that top room? There are

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>holes all over the fucking door. What's wrong with you?

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>She then captured it in case anybody is feeling bad

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>about being single today. Olivia went on to explain that

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>her text message was in response to Brad hanging a

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 1>dart board on the back of one of their new doors,

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>which cost them a small fortune. She finished off her

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.919
<v Speaker 1>instant stories by telling her followers, so yeah, being single,

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it ain't all bad kids. Well, on a local front,

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Robinson received the nicest bunch of roses I think

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen so good on Jordan Simmy. He might

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>not be good at power point presentations, but he's good

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>at picking out roses. As for Tammy Hembro, she shared

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the cutest homemade cards her kids made her and even

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Chloe Zepp and Mitchell Orval were feeling a little bit

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>romantic on Valentine's Day, he cooked her a steak and potatoes. Now,

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I do love Valentine's Day because it also increases the

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>speculation around whether some couples are together or not together.

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Because interestingly, Madison Wooly shared a snap of her and

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>her best friend Olivia Pratt and manager Georgia Knight out

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>for dinner for a Gallantine's Meal. Now this is a

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 1>big sign that her and on again off again boyfriend

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Sower may finally be done because Madison was also

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>seen holiday and with her best friend Caitlin Rodriguez a

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. The pair are still following each other,

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>but they haven't been liking one another's photos, which is

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>also another side. We've also had some people sending us

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.239
<v Speaker 1>rumors which I I think are incorrect, that she and

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Mitch Third have been messaging it. Well, Mitch has been

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>liking a hell of a lot of it photos. Wouldn't

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>know about bunny relationship match. It would, but I remember

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>from past flog days that Madison and Tylia Scanes are friends,

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>so maybe it's just a friendship thing.

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.959
<v Speaker 4>Don't make out like we are forcing each other to

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 4>be in this, So maybe we don't want monogamy. As

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 4>much as you value monogamy, we value nor monogamy.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Abby Chatfield was revealed she isn't an open relationship with

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend Conrad bn Stevens. The announcement has been met with

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>mixed reactions, with many applauding Abby for normalizing open relationships,

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>while others can't seem to get their heads around it.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>So Abby sounded quite nervous to make the announcement. Yeah,

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that's right, Amy. The night before the episode went live,

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Abby did an Instagram story lying in bed with Conrad

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>in their pajamas, and she sounded so nervous. She told

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>her followers that Conrad would be appearing on her podcast

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a Lot the next morning to share an announcement

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>about their relationship, and she prefaced it by saying she's

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>scared to talk about it because she doesn't want people

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>abusing her. Now, the next morning, the couple announced that

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>they're in an open relationship. Here's a snippet of what

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Abby and Conrad said.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, speaking of how much pussy you could get. Now,

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 4>before we tell you all this, here's a few things

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 4>we need to explain to you. First of all, we're

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 4>in love. We aren't breaking up. Everyone coming Daddy, aren't

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 4>breaking up. We're just having a different structure to our relationship.

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So we're open.

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 4>So we're in like an open relationship, which we love.

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean to be fair, I haven't had anyone yet,

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 4>which is annoying.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You fucked someone, which was iconic.

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, Abby and Conrad reiterated during the podcast that they

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>had independently decided that they wanted to be in an

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>open relationship before they even met, and it was also

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>something that they discussed before sleeping together. She was also

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<v Speaker 1>quick to point out that while something that works for them,

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that it has to work for everyone else.

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Now amy, For those who might not have heard about

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>ethical non monogamy before, what is it? Well, it's described

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 1>as a committed romantic relationship where all partners consent to

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>sexual or romantic encounters with other consenting individuals, and there

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>are various types of ethical non monogamy, including swinging, polyamory

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and other forms of open relationships. So, depending on the couple,

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>only one partner may act outside the relationship, or both

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>partners may.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Act outside it.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 1>It may involve only sexual connections with others or romantic connections,

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>or sometimes both. So in order for these relationships to work, honesty, communication,

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and negotiation must all be involved, and everyone must consent

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to the situation without cohersion, deception.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Or guilt tripping.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>So as for Abby and Conrad's open relationship, they're considered

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the primary people within it, and they are allowed to

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>go have sexual encounters with others. However, they're not allowed

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to form emotional connections. And I believe some of the

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>rules were that they can only have sex with that

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>person once, and they can't have sex with someone that

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they've been in a former relationship with or slept with before.

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So those are their rules, but people have very different

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>rules in open relationships. That just comes down to communicating

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.959
<v Speaker 1>with each other what those rules are. Now. Before breaking

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the news on their podcast, Abby and Conrad said that

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they have shared the news with other people in their

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>friendship circles, and it seems like they have had quite

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a bad reaction from some people. Abby said that many

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>people acted with either extreme upset or anger, and she

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>said she was really over having to explain to people

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>how their relationship works. Do you think it's because a

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of people put themselves in Abby and conrade shoes

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and go I could never do this because I personally

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>could never imagine having an open relationship. It doesn't mean

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't respect no exactly, That's what I mean, And

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's so disrespectful of everyone. I mean,

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, in your everyday life, if your friend

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>came to you and told you that they were in

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>an open relationship, I can't understand actually going back at

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>them and saying that you didn't agree with it, because

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's everyone's own personal decision.

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like Abby and Conrad have had to

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>come out about this because they live in the public eye.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>So if they didn't.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Come out and tackle this head on and be really

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>open and honest about it, I can just imagine what

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Abby's dms would have been, like, oh, Conrad's cheated with me,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>or like the articles in the Daily Mail. So I

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>think that they've really done this in a really positive

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and open way. And now it's just I just feel

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>bad for them for getting so much backlash over it,

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>because it's their lives.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Let them live their lives how they want to live them. Well,

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing.

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Abby said that she was worried that people would project

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>their own feelings about their own relationship into hers, and

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>she was very f that's definitely happy, yeah, and she

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>was very frustrated over that point. And as you say, Kate,

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Abbi revealed that because of their high profile status as

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple, they were forced to come out with this

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>news about their relationship because Abby said she was scared

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.479
<v Speaker 1>of receiving dms from fans saying that their friend had

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>slept with Conrad, and she was also very concerned that

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>The Daily Mail would publish a photo of Conrad out

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>kissing other girls in public and and they would then

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>frame the story that Abby was being cheated on.

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just was.

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Shocked how surprised everyone was, because having listened to Abby's podcast,

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it didn't surprise me at all that she and Conrad

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>were in an open relationship, because she's spoken a lot

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>before about how she's previously been in an open relationship.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, Abby did go into it on the podcast episode

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and said that for her, it is a kink to

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have her partners sleep with other people.

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Here's what she said, the more like try to like

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 4>diagnose me, like it's because you've been cheated on so

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 4>much you think it's all your worth.

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, it's my kink.

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 4>And then I'm sitting at a dinner table with strangers

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 4>saying my kink is wanting him to fuck other people?

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Do you want me to explain that more? And they go, no,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>that can't be true.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really good that Abby actually referenced that

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>this is her kink, because otherwise a lot of people

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>might have thought being a bit misogynistic. Oh, Conrad must

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>have forced her into this. Conrad just wants to go

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>around and have sex with other women. It's funny you

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>say that, Amy, because it's actually the complete opposite. Abby

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>is being accused of pressuring Conrad into having an open relationship,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that Conrad is the one that's actually

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>slept with someone else, and Abby said she hasn't yet.

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>And it just seems wild to me because every time

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Conrad and Abby are in the media, she is being

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>portrayed as the person that's in the wrong all the

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>time and the baddie, and he's portrayed as, oh, he's

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>just being led along by Abby. I think the reason

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that people jumped to conclusions and thought that Abby was

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to force him is because he admitted that he

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>has never been in an open relationship before. But they

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<v Speaker 1>then did reiterate that it was a choice they made

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<v Speaker 1>before they even met. And as you touched on, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>Conrad has revealed that he has had sex with someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was someone who has been involved in an

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<v Speaker 1>open relationship before. They referred to her as a third Now.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Abby said that she's been too busy with her national

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<v Speaker 1>radio show to have sex with anyone else, and also

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<v Speaker 1>that she does find it difficult to meet new people,

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<v Speaker 1>so really doesn't play into this persona that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of critics are trying to push that Abby is the

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<v Speaker 1>one forcing Conrad into this. It's pretty disgusting that the

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<v Speaker 1>Courier Mail then published off the back of this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>a story with the headline Abbi Chatfield and Conrad bian

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens we can cheat on each other. This was shared

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<v Speaker 1>across their Instagram, clearly for clicks, and the heading was

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly misleading and really missed the mark on what

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a really important discussion about open relationships now.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Abbi responded to the Courier Mail on Instagram, writing, Lol,

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<v Speaker 1>what a wildly misleading, gross title. When we say we

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<v Speaker 1>can cheat on each other, we mean there are boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>in our open relationship that can be crossed and would

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<v Speaker 1>be called cheating. But we are open If we sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with other people that isn't considered cheating. Jesus Christ, how

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing for you. What did you guys think.

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<v Speaker 2>About this article?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like there are two very different demographics

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<v Speaker 1>who are commenting on this story online. You've got the

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>boomers who are outraged by the story who can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Abby and Conrad are in an open relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got the other side of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Internet, who are the woke gen Zea's who are really

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<v Speaker 1>outraged at the fact that people are having a say

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<v Speaker 1>about private relationship. I just think it's so brave of

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<v Speaker 1>Abby and Conrad to be so public about their relationship

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<v Speaker 1>because in Australia, the concept of ethical non monogamy is

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<v Speaker 1>relatively new, and I feel like those interested in actually

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing having multiple partners and those sort of relationships, they

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<v Speaker 1>often lack any sort of social support and understanding, so

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<v Speaker 1>many find it really difficult to broach the topic with

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends and also co workers. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's very taboo at the moment, but now that Abby

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<v Speaker 1>is bringing it out into the mainstream, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>open up so many important discussions and help normalize these

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of relationships. And I think that's why the backlash

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<v Speaker 1>is so sad, Because these two well known people are

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<v Speaker 1>in an open relationship. We should be applauding that and

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<v Speaker 1>actually looking at them to educate others on this type

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<v Speaker 1>of relationship, except we're now demonizing them and trolling them

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<v Speaker 1>for coming out and being truthful about the status of

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship. Well, I think that's all we have time

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