1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: We're identical triplets, so. 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: We often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things can 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: And issues facing women. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: That is so app fetch, thank you, Welcome back to 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Outspoken Now. It hasn't been a great week for influences 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: in the wild. Two have been caught out this week 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: without their debit cards or purses while trying to buy items. 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: So the first was Molly May and she drove twenty 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: minutes from her house to get McDonald's, only to discover 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: she had forgotten to bring her purse. And to add 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: insult to injury, she had her period and was really 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: craving McDonald's. And she also tried to purchase the meal 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: on her Apple pay and it got rejected. So I 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: always feel so embarrassed when my credit card gets declined, 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: so I think she was just an absolute ball of nerves. 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: She ended up having to ring her manager to ask 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: what to do in the situation, and her manager was like, well, 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: why don't you check your car to see if you've 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: got any coins in it. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: So that's what she did. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was able to scrounge five pound twenty so 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: she did manage to get a meal. But the funniest 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: thing was she seemed really self conscious on what the 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: person at McDonald's, the one who was serving her, was thinking. 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: And I just thought the whole time, can you imagine 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: if you were that kid at McDonald's and you recognize 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Molly May and she's been coppying all this shit for 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: her insensitive twenty four hours in a day comment. The 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: funniest bit is she's in her massive, expensive car and 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: she's obviously filming herself too, So I really wonder what 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: the boy that served her was thinking. If it was me, 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm not giving. 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: This woman a meal for free. She can obviously afford it. 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: Don't you love how much money you can actually scrounge 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: in your car when you really need to, Like, I'm 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: always shocked when I'm ever in that situation where I 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: need to pay for a parking ticket or something and 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: the amount of extra dollars you have lying around the car. 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Straight, No, I feel like we. 44 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Need to go to grab from Molly May because her 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: reaction to the whole ordeal was hilarious. 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: I left my money at home. I left my money 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: at home. 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm so embarrassed. I'm actually so embarrassed. 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: That was so embarrassing. 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: The poor boy, the poor boy was just staring at me, like, 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: what do you want me to do about a hunt? 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm not giving you a frame with donald Oh dude, Jesus, 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: that was embarrassing. Okay, okay, I just got a new 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: card and I just added it to my my phone. 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: But it didn't work. It didn't work. 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: Such too fair. 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: Some places don't accept this type of card. So now 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: I was like, is this God telling me that maybe 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: I don't need him at Donalds to night? 60 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: Do you think this is how you guys would react, 61 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: because I have been in that instance. Actually today I 62 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: forgot my Booper card at the Optic and I was 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: so embarrassed, Like, I thought, do I go back? 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: But I feel like when it. 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Comes to a meal and you're really craving it, I 66 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: would go back and suffer the embarrassment. Well, she did 67 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: say to the Matt Donald's worker, Oh, can you just 68 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: put that to the side. I will come back and 69 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: to be honest, I've done that before at the supermarket 70 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: where my card hasn't gone through and I've said no, no, 71 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I'll come back, and i haven't come back out of 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: pure embarrassment. Well, the other influencer who had a similar 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: situation this week was Sarah's Dye Now. She did a 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: huge shop at chemist Warehouse for essentials to prepare for 75 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: the birth of her baby, which is coming up in 76 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: the next few weeks, and she went to the counter 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: and realized that she also had no card. And what 78 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: I loved was she lied and said she was going 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: to the car to see if her wallet was in 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: the car, But she was just doing that because she 81 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: wanted to leave the embarrassing situation and did not go 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: back in. 83 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: I've actually forgotten my money. But I've got this. This 84 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: might work, it might not. Can you can I hold 85 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: my older because I will actually come back. What time 86 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: do you shut? 87 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Oh? 88 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll come back. Thank you. 89 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Sophiicacia and Mia Plask's latest business venture has hit a 90 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: hurdle on its first launch. Their gender neutral cosmetic brand 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: of Suru was forced to apologize after the former Mummy 92 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: bloggers shared a video of herself undertaking quality control in 93 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: their warehouse. In the video, she has seen maskless and 94 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: gloveless as she rubs her nose with lipstick in her hand. 95 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Before we get into the drama, Cake, can you tell 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: us about Sophie and MIA's new business? 97 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, just for. 98 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: Some background, Sophie Kaisha, as we said, is a former 99 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: mummy vlogger turned entrepreneur who runs a successful pajama brand 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: called Kasha. And as for me, she is a founder 101 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: and CEO of Slick Hair Company. Now. They both have 102 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: had their fair share of controversies, so much so that 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: Sophie Kisha tried to distance herself from Mia Plastic last 104 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: year after the Slickstick owner shared her anti vax views. Now, 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: despite the little hiccup, the pair have joined forces to 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: launch a new gender neutral cosmetic brand called. 107 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: Is Suru Now. 108 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: The word is Suru is Japanese and translates to mean 109 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: to love, to care for, to have affection for. Brand's 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: motto is beauty for all humans, and they list their 111 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: values as inclusivity, visibility, and acceptance in the mainstream market now, 112 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: the brand says that they're here to disrupt the market 113 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: and want every human to embrace self expression at any age. 114 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: On the website, it says one dollar from every sale 115 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: of a product will be donated to a selected charity, 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: with it alternating every six months. Now. When I took 117 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: a look at their website, it was very inclusive and 118 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: featured images of trans women, non binary people, and older women. However, 119 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to their brand, I don't really think 120 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: it's on point. 121 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: It kind of looks a little bit. 122 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Like a tech brand, and a member of our Facebook 123 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: group actually pointed out that the website looks like the 124 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: big W website and when you do have a look, 125 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: you cannot unsee it. It just really has big W vibes, 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: which seems odd for a cosmetics company. Yeah, and it 127 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: really appears that Sophie and Mia are jumping on board 128 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: this gender neutral beauty trend, which is really big in 129 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: the market. So brands that are already doing a great 130 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: job of it so far. Our YouTuber Patrick Stars brand 131 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: one Size, along with we Are Fluid two Deep Beauty, 132 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and also Rhianna's fenty Now. The first launch featured three 133 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: nude lipsticks which cost thirty four to ninety five each 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: or eighty nine ninety five for a pack of three, 135 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: and I was really surprised that they went with nude 136 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: lipsticks to start with because the term nude in the 137 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: makeup world is considered a light skin color, so for me, 138 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: the term doesn't really seem on brand, considering they're trying 139 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: to push inclusivity. And it also did surprise me that 140 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: their first product was a lipstick, considering we have to 141 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: wear masks in public now. 142 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 143 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Though, it could be a case of Sophie and Me 144 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: are banking on the lipstick effect. So for those who 145 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: haven't heard about it, the theory is that consumers are 146 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: willing to buy less costly luxury goods. 147 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: During an economic crisis. 148 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: So basically, instead of buying a designer handbag, people are 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: more willing to buy an expensive lipstick instead. And during 150 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the economic declines, we have seen that 151 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: lipstick sales have gone up a lot, so maybe they're 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: banking on this being the case for the pandemic. I 153 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 1: would assume though, ellipstick would be a good beauty item 154 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: to test as well, because it wouldn't be that expensive 155 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: to have made. And if you look at what Me 156 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: has done previously with the slickstick that was a white 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: label product, that she just needed to put her branding on. 158 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this lipstick is also a white label product, 159 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: it's the easiest. 160 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: One to push ower. 161 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: What's interesting you say that, Amy, because they're touting their 162 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: products as Australian made, cruelty free, vegan and obviously they 163 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: think by saying that they can put the thirty five 164 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: dollar price mark, because thirty five dollars. 165 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: Is very expensive for ellipstick. 166 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: But is this their target audience the people that follow them, 167 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: because they seem to be going for a very woke audience. 168 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: But I feel like a lot of woke people don't 169 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: particularly like me A plastic and Sophicacia. Yeah, I was 170 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: thinking the same thing, and when I did a little 171 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: bit of a research into gender neutral cosmetics, it really 172 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: seems like it's the up and coming thing and something 173 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are jumping on board with, which. 174 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Is really really great. 175 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: However, I was surprised with the branding because it's very 176 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: avert that, oh, this is a product for everyone, whereas 177 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: someone like Fenti, their messaging is more subtle. It's just 178 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: very inclusive language, and I don't know, I personally thought 179 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: that more being subtle about it would be better marketing 180 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: to make it feel like this is just an everyday, 181 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: every human thing. It seems more genuine, doesn't it the 182 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: fente branding. But we've seen the likes of James Charles 183 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: be the face of cosmetic brands, and I think it's 184 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: a space that has been evolving quite a lot. So 185 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: it's not something that you need to be so overt with. 186 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: It's more something that you bring into your marketing and think, hey, 187 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: we've actually got these two demographics that we can market to. 188 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: How do we do that while being authentic. What does 189 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: seem to have overshadowed this launch, though, is an Instagram 190 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: story that Sophie Keisha shared this week. 191 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: Now. She shared a. 192 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Video of herself quality testing lipsticks before they were packed 193 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: and shipped. In the video, she explains that she is 194 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: individually going through ten thousand lipsticks to ensure there are 195 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: no duds now. In the vision, Sophie is not wearing 196 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: a mask, gloves, or hairnet and is seen wiping her 197 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: nose with a lipstick in her hand. 198 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: I couldn't help but laugh at this video. 199 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty ironic because the video is captioned something I 200 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: learned from my business partner Acacia is the importance of 201 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: quality control. Now, it doesn't seem like too much quality 202 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: control is going into place if you are actually wiping 203 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: your nose with the product, not actually wearing safety equipment, 204 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: particularly in a pandemic. When I saw that, I just thought, 205 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: what on earth is she thinking? What possessed her to 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: post this video? Well? 207 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: Where was anybody telling her within her team? Hate? I 208 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: think this is a really good idea. 209 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Well. The video has caused a lot of backlash, with 210 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: many people asking ISUU for a statement on their safety breach, 211 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: and they did reply to some of the concerns on Instagram. 212 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: One of their responses read as a small new business, 213 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: we have definitely taken this on board and reached out 214 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: to a manufacturers who gave us the best practices to 215 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: use moving forward. So then on Wednesday, they took it 216 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: a step further and shared a post on their Instagram 217 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: story which read, the team at Asuru would like to 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: acknowledge the concerns of our customers regarding a video that 219 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: was shared this week by one of our company directors. 220 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: We acknowledge that this wasn't the best practice nor aligned 221 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: with our policies and procedures. Surrounding the safe handling of products. 222 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: Working in partnership with our contract manufacturers, we have reinforced 223 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: the strict processes and protocols to our staff members to 224 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: ensure mistakes like this aren't made again. It is important 225 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: to note that the specific batch of lipsticks handled that 226 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: morning have been disposed of. We thank you for your feedback. Now, 227 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: do you guys actually think that the lipsticks were disposed of? Well, 228 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: that's a lot of lipsticks, isn't it If it was 229 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: ten thousand that Sophie went through, particularly for a startup, Yeah, 230 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: particularly for someone that in the comments has said we 231 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: are a new business and we are learning. You don't 232 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: think that. Like usually with a first drop, you only 233 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: purchase a small amount of products to see how it goes. 234 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: So I'm questioning did they actually really dispose of the 235 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: products or did they dispose of the products? Are only 236 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: Sophie touched? Meaning did she just put that video up 237 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: for a bit of a flex saying that she's looking 238 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: through all the lipsticks, but in fact she's only really 239 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: quality controlled two of them. So they've just got rid 240 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: of those lies. I want to see the lipsticks being 241 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: disposed of. If this actually and if it was ten 242 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: thousand or I mean, it seems like a real waste, 243 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: doesn't it, Like surely they could have gifted them to 244 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: family and friends. 245 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, when they. 246 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Say disposed of, they probably have just given them to 247 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: family and friends. You probably hit the nail on the 248 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: head there. I did think it was also quite embarrassing 249 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: how they said that in the statement we've had to 250 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: reinforce the strict process and protocols to our staff members, 251 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: particularly when the staff member in question is one of 252 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: the directors of the company who is trying to flex 253 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: and say she s had so much experience with their 254 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: pajama brand. Oh, it was also embarrassing and really not 255 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: a very good first impression for a brand who is 256 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: trying to position themselves in the market as a luxury 257 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: cosmetic brand. 258 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: With thirty five dollars. 259 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Lipsticks, and if we do some quick maths, if they 260 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: had to get rid of ten thousand of the lipsticks 261 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: priced at thirty four ninety five, that's three hundred and 262 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: forty nine, five hundred dollars of lost revenue. I do 263 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: find this all very ironic that this has come from 264 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: Sophie Kaisha sharing a post trying to convince consumers about 265 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: her brand's quality control. 266 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: I will forget each and every one of you almost immediately. 267 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: So if you do find yourself at a loose end 268 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 4: next year, I think it might be nice to pop 269 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: in and see how we're getting on. 270 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Don't not doing anybody's tea tonight? 271 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Where Chippy. 272 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: Ill our Fish, Jiptum Monkey beat. 273 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Fresh from selling his Gold Coast mansion, it appears Mitch 274 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: Orville is now the part owner of a takeaway store. Sophie, 275 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: what do we know so far about Mitch's new venture. Well, 276 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, a photo of Mitch posing outside Shack Takeaway 277 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: appeared on the store's new Instagram account. The caption read, 278 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: the Shack Takeaway owners, we are so excited to see 279 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: you all very soon once we are open. From Reno's 280 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: keep your eyes peeled now. The store is part of 281 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: the popular Nobby's Beach Strip near Mermaid Beach on the 282 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Gold Coast, and it was quite interesting to take a 283 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: look at their Instagram account because it shows that Jiglio 284 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Construction is actually renovating the inside of the store. Now 285 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: that name might sound familiar to you because they also 286 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: renovated the Orvil's house. So many people are wondering how 287 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: hands on Mitch's role will be in this business, and 288 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: some have speculated that he may be an investor or 289 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: financial backer. I mean, I'm assuming he's not going to 290 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: be making the juices there. No, I don't think we'll 291 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: see him front of house. And it is interesting when 292 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: you do take a look at the other three owners 293 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: pictured in the photo, because two of the part owners 294 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: are a married couple who already run a successful juice 295 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: bar and superfood store in the same precinct called Nobby's Shack. 296 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: Also pictured is the CEO of Jiglio Construction, who, as 297 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned, is doing the renovations on the takeaway store. 298 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: So it's quite interesting because I feel like the CEO 299 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: and Mitch must be taking more of a strategic approach 300 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: towards the takeaway business. I'm really wondering what's going to 301 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: be on the menu at this takeaway store. I think 302 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: they should sell an iconic smashed avo and fitter toast. 303 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: Remember Mitch chanting down on that one of his iconic 304 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: YouTube video. 305 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: The side of chilled moon water or something like that. Well, 306 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's not going to. 307 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: Be your typical fast food restaurant. It is interesting because 308 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: if you look at the owners who own Nobby's Shack, 309 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: they also run a cafe that serves immune boosting juices 310 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: and also very nourishing food, So I think it will 311 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: be along the same line of that. Does anyone else 312 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: feel quite happy for Mitch because I feel like this 313 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: is a really good move from him. He's gone off 314 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: social media, He's starting this business. Yeah. I think starting 315 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: a new business, particularly one in hospitality, isn't an easy task, 316 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: and I do think it is great that instead of 317 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: staying in that social media world, which is clearly making 318 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: him incredibly unhappy, he's going and looking at new opportunities. 319 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: And I think that he would do a. 320 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: Great job with this restaurant. 321 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, so this is the big opportunity then that 322 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the real estate agent was hinting at, because remember when 323 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: they sold their house, they said, oh, they're moving on 324 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: to bigger and better things. It does make me think 325 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if Mitch is going to jump back on 326 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: social media to promote this or if he's just going 327 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: to keep it organic, because I suppose it's not like 328 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: a retail thing where you can get your followers to 329 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: buy your products. It's very much you have to be 330 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast in the Knobby's precinct area. Well, 331 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I think because it is a takeaway store, it doesn't 332 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: look like at the moment that it's a huge franchise. 333 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: I think it's probably just something that he wants to 334 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: take a step back and dip his toe in the 335 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: water of running a business. Obviously, he loves the lifestyle. 336 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: It's right near the beach. 337 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: If I was his business partners though, I'd be saying 338 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: get back on social media, let's do a bit of 339 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: promotion to get people down there. 340 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: Well. 341 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Since the news broke, there has been some discussion around 342 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: whether Mitch's vaccination status will affect his role at the 343 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: cafe because currently in Queensland, rule state that only vaccinated 344 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: staff and patrons will be allowed to enter hospitality venues 345 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: such as cafes, restaurants and fast food outlets. However, it 346 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: does outline that vaccination isn't required for pays entering food courts. 347 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: So I do wonder if. 348 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a loophole here for Mitch's venue, 349 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: because it does outline on the Instagram account that it 350 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: is a takeaway only store. 351 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would probably be the loophole. 352 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Well, that being said, the vaccine mandate is currently under 353 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: review by the Queensland government, so it looks like authorities 354 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: are set to make a call on whether they will 355 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: scrap those measures at the end of the month. Yeah, 356 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: it should be really interesting. But I just want to 357 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: wish Mitch well because I think this is a really 358 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: exciting new venture for him and I'd love to see 359 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: him succeed offline and you know, bring that happiness back 360 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: because he clearly wasn't happy when he was online earlier. 361 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: Hi, guys, welcome back to my channel. I hope you're 362 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: all doing wow. So for today's video, I'm coming to 363 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: you with a Valentine's Day inspired it gets ready with me. 364 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: On Monday, social media was a wash with Valentine's Day 365 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: posts as influencers shared their loved up moments. Now, have 366 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: you guys noticed there seems to be three types of 367 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: couples on Valentine's Day? So firstly you've got the ones 368 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: that go overboard, then there's the ones that send the 369 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: obligatory flowers, and then there are those who don't sell 370 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: braided at all. Where do you guys fit on this scale? 371 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I feel like Amy you were incredibly thoughtful this year 372 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: with Valentine's Day, because I do think as a woman, 373 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: it is difficult to think of a Valentine's Day gift 374 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: for a man. But I feel like you nailed it. 375 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 376 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: I did a chocolate and beer bouquet because I felt 377 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: bad because Dale always gets me really nice flowers each year, 378 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: and then I never know what to get him. 379 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: So the year before I got him. 380 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: A bottle of wine and it just felt a bit flat. 381 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: So I did make the effort. 382 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: I feel like girls are a bit more thoughtful with 383 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: some of the stuff they give because you actually made 384 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: that book. Yeah you've missed that point because you've got 385 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: a reel on our Instagram account of you putting it together. 386 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: And I was very impressed because really those type of 387 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: baskets can cost a lot of money if you buy 388 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: if you outsource it, but I'm assuming it was a 389 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: little bit cheaper. Do you know Dale has already eaten 390 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: all of the chocolates from how many ways. It's so 391 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: funny because I put it. I put the bouquet outside 392 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: our room and it sort of sat there for the 393 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: whole week. And the whole week it's we're recording on 394 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: a Thursday, Valentine's I was on a Monday four days 395 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: so to get the chocolates to stand up, I had 396 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: to hot glue gun skewers onto the back of chocolates. 397 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: And today I looked and there were just. 398 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: All these empty skewers that were still in the bouquet. 399 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: I reckon. 400 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: I was about. 401 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Fifteen chocolate bars. They were king size as well. There 402 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: was a lot of chocolate, and there was fair rashers there. 403 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: I think there's two of those left. 404 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: See for me, I felt a little bit bad at 405 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: seeing you do that because I didn't really go overboard. 406 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Reese and I more are in that 407 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: category of the obligatory flowers, because Reees got me a 408 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: beautiful bunch of roses and a card, and then I 409 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: got him a rose like standing up rose bush because 410 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: we really want to put them down the side of 411 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: our house. What about you, Sophie, I feel like you're 412 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: you and Brandon fall into the overboard category. Oh I 413 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't say overboard, but okay, hang on. If you don't 414 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: say overboard, then what did you What have you got? 415 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: The last two years of Valentine's Days? 416 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: Actually that Yeah, it was a bit over the top 417 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: last year. 418 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: But it's not over the top in the sense of 419 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: over the top romantic. 420 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: It's more the we seem to buy each other large. 421 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Scale gifts as opposed to something expensive gifts as opposed 422 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: to something that's romantic. So for Valentine's Day last year, 423 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: Brandon did buy me an expensive lens for my camera. 424 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: And then this year he bought me some sand shoes 425 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: and he did do the flame shoes. 426 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: You sound like you're eighty years old. What Nike Nikes? 427 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: And then a bag of chocolates and flowers and stuff bag. 428 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: Of chocolate, well a little a gift bag. 429 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: That had chocolates in it anyway, So it was very, 430 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: just very And I did buy him a basketball ring 431 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: last year as. 432 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, so I did, so it was a little bit 433 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: over the Time's Day. 434 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: Yes I did, because he bought me this expensive lens 435 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: and I felt bad. So basically, your Valentine's Day is 436 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of like Christmas. 437 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: And Birthday gifts. 438 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if we were to crown the most over 439 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: the top Valentine's Day celebration online, sorry, Sophie, you and 440 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: Brannon don't actually win. It's actually Tommy Fury and Molly 441 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: may A second year in a row. So Tommy put 442 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: men around the world to shame by absolutely spoiling Molly May. 443 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: So he arranged for a car to collect her and 444 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: took her to a five star hotel in London, And 445 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: when she arrived, the room was full of love heart 446 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: balloons and there was a huge bouquet of white roses 447 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: sitting on the bed. They then went off to a 448 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: meal to celebrate. Now, this to me sounds like what 449 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: a perfect Valentine's Day? Would you guys want that? I 450 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: have always had a dream of someone putting balloons in 451 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: a room like that. For me, probably from seeing Molly 452 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: May stories. I always thought if I was to get proposed, 453 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: which obviously has happened, but I would love someone to 454 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: fill the room with balloons like that. 455 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't happen. I didn't throw any hints. 456 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Of that, but I think it looked spectacular did It 457 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: just made me think there must be a whole load 458 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: of young girls who follow Molly on Instagram and also Tommy, 459 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: and they must think that this is just sort of 460 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: a typical Valentine's Day, and they're going to be very 461 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: disappointed when they get older and they get the boyfriend 462 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: that gets them the servo station roses, Well, we do 463 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: have to remember there are only twenty two. I do 464 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: wonder what they'll be doing for one another on Valentine's 465 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: Day in ten years time. The skeptic in me wonders, though, 466 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: are they just doing it for social media and for appearances, 467 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: because there's so much speculation around whether they're together and 468 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: if they don't post something, people think they've broken up, 469 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: and it almost seems like they have to put on 470 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: showy stuff to prove that they are in love. Well, 471 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot more pressure on the boyfriends of Instagram 472 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, isn't there because everyone's sort of waiting 473 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: to see what they get. But Molly also spoiled Tommy. 474 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: She made him a photo album filled with handwritten notes 475 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: about their relationship, and eagle eyed fans spotted another sign 476 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: that the pair are serious about having kids. So Molly's 477 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: message read, one day we will have our own family. 478 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: It'll be the best day of my life. Bring on, 479 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Mum and dad life. So this follows a Q and 480 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: A where Molly revealed she doesn't use contraception and relies 481 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: on the Flow app to track her fertility. And in 482 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: a recent vlog, the vlog we mentioned earlier about McDonald's, 483 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: she confided that she thought she may have been pregnant 484 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: after her period was four days late, but a test 485 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: confirmed she wasn't. Now the Love Island couple that brought 486 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: us back down to reality was Milly and and they 487 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: were celebrating their first Valentine's Day together. Now it was 488 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: in stark contrast to the celebration that we saw Molly 489 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: and Tommy have. So Milly informed us on Valentine's Day 490 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: morning that she'd given Liam some after shave, and when 491 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: she passed that present over, it was quite clear that 492 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: he had completely forgotten that it was Valentine's Day, and 493 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: he did a dash to Testo to pick up some flowers, 494 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: which looked pretty average. Apparently he also picked up some 495 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day pens as well to add to it pens 496 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: and also a little dessert. So he was clearly trying hard. 497 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: And we you have to remember he is only twenty one, 498 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: even though he looks about thirty five. 499 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: He is a. 500 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Twenty one year old boy, and most twenty one year 501 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: old boys are completely. 502 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: Hopeless, so he clearly didn't think about the gram. 503 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: No, he wasn't thinking about the ground, but he kind 504 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: of made me love them as a couple more because 505 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: Milli later shared a post saying, it's not about expensive 506 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: gifts and you know, gestures the fact that they can 507 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: spend the day together just chilling out watching TV. That's 508 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: what's important to them, just spending time together. Girlfriend says, 509 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: who doesn't receive a big budge her, Yes, I think 510 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: the most awkward thing with the influence of boyfriends who 511 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: forget is the fact that all the brands send their 512 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: girlfriends really. 513 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: Over the top thing. 514 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: So you see all those like smash Box Loollie Cakes 515 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: and all this really extravagant stuff, and it's just like, 516 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: oh God, the brand could even remember and new could. 517 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: So another love islander who made us all feel a 518 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: little bit better on Valentine's Day was Olivia Attwood. So 519 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: she shared a screenshot of a text message exchange between 520 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: her and her soccer player fiance Brad Dak. Olivia's message read, Brad, 521 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm so angry. I feel like I'm going to pass out. 522 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: Are you actually joking with that top room? There are 523 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: holes all over the fucking door. What's wrong with you? 524 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: She then captured it in case anybody is feeling bad 525 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: about being single today. Olivia went on to explain that 526 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: her text message was in response to Brad hanging a 527 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: dart board on the back of one of their new doors, 528 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: which cost them a small fortune. She finished off her 529 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: instant stories by telling her followers, so yeah, being single, 530 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: it ain't all bad kids. Well, on a local front, 531 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson received the nicest bunch of roses I think 532 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: I've ever seen so good on Jordan Simmy. He might 533 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: not be good at power point presentations, but he's good 534 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: at picking out roses. As for Tammy Hembro, she shared 535 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: the cutest homemade cards her kids made her and even 536 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: Chloe Zepp and Mitchell Orval were feeling a little bit 537 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: romantic on Valentine's Day, he cooked her a steak and potatoes. Now, 538 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: I do love Valentine's Day because it also increases the 539 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: speculation around whether some couples are together or not together. 540 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Because interestingly, Madison Wooly shared a snap of her and 541 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: her best friend Olivia Pratt and manager Georgia Knight out 542 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: for dinner for a Gallantine's Meal. Now this is a 543 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: big sign that her and on again off again boyfriend 544 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: Jonathan Sower may finally be done because Madison was also 545 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: seen holiday and with her best friend Caitlin Rodriguez a 546 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. The pair are still following each other, 547 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: but they haven't been liking one another's photos, which is 548 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: also another side. We've also had some people sending us 549 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: rumors which I I think are incorrect, that she and 550 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Mitch Third have been messaging it. Well, Mitch has been 551 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: liking a hell of a lot of it photos. Wouldn't 552 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: know about bunny relationship match. It would, but I remember 553 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: from past flog days that Madison and Tylia Scanes are friends, 554 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: so maybe it's just a friendship thing. 555 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 4: Don't make out like we are forcing each other to 556 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 4: be in this, So maybe we don't want monogamy. As 557 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: much as you value monogamy, we value nor monogamy. 558 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield was revealed she isn't an open relationship with 559 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: boyfriend Conrad bn Stevens. The announcement has been met with 560 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: mixed reactions, with many applauding Abby for normalizing open relationships, 561 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: while others can't seem to get their heads around it. 562 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: So Abby sounded quite nervous to make the announcement. Yeah, 563 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: that's right, Amy. The night before the episode went live, 564 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: Abby did an Instagram story lying in bed with Conrad 565 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: in their pajamas, and she sounded so nervous. She told 566 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: her followers that Conrad would be appearing on her podcast 567 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: It's a Lot the next morning to share an announcement 568 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: about their relationship, and she prefaced it by saying she's 569 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: scared to talk about it because she doesn't want people 570 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: abusing her. Now, the next morning, the couple announced that 571 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: they're in an open relationship. Here's a snippet of what 572 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Abby and Conrad said. 573 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: So well, speaking of how much pussy you could get. Now, 574 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: before we tell you all this, here's a few things 575 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: we need to explain to you. First of all, we're 576 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: in love. We aren't breaking up. Everyone coming Daddy, aren't 577 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: breaking up. We're just having a different structure to our relationship. 578 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: So we're open. 579 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: So we're in like an open relationship, which we love. 580 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: I mean to be fair, I haven't had anyone yet, 581 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 4: which is annoying. 582 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: You fucked someone, which was iconic. 583 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Now, Abby and Conrad reiterated during the podcast that they 584 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: had independently decided that they wanted to be in an 585 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: open relationship before they even met, and it was also 586 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: something that they discussed before sleeping together. She was also 587 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: quick to point out that while something that works for them, 588 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it has to work for everyone else. 589 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: Now amy, For those who might not have heard about 590 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: ethical non monogamy before, what is it? Well, it's described 591 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: as a committed romantic relationship where all partners consent to 592 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: sexual or romantic encounters with other consenting individuals, and there 593 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: are various types of ethical non monogamy, including swinging, polyamory 594 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: and other forms of open relationships. So, depending on the couple, 595 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: only one partner may act outside the relationship, or both 596 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: partners may. 597 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: Act outside it. 598 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: It may involve only sexual connections with others or romantic connections, 599 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: or sometimes both. So in order for these relationships to work, honesty, communication, 600 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: and negotiation must all be involved, and everyone must consent 601 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: to the situation without cohersion, deception. 602 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 2: Or guilt tripping. 603 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: So as for Abby and Conrad's open relationship, they're considered 604 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: the primary people within it, and they are allowed to 605 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: go have sexual encounters with others. However, they're not allowed 606 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: to form emotional connections. And I believe some of the 607 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: rules were that they can only have sex with that 608 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: person once, and they can't have sex with someone that 609 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: they've been in a former relationship with or slept with before. 610 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: So those are their rules, but people have very different 611 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: rules in open relationships. That just comes down to communicating 612 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: with each other what those rules are. Now. Before breaking 613 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: the news on their podcast, Abby and Conrad said that 614 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: they have shared the news with other people in their 615 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: friendship circles, and it seems like they have had quite 616 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: a bad reaction from some people. Abby said that many 617 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: people acted with either extreme upset or anger, and she 618 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: said she was really over having to explain to people 619 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: how their relationship works. Do you think it's because a 620 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: lot of people put themselves in Abby and conrade shoes 621 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: and go I could never do this because I personally 622 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: could never imagine having an open relationship. It doesn't mean 623 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: you can't respect no exactly, That's what I mean, And 624 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I just think it's so disrespectful of everyone. I mean, 625 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the thing is, in your everyday life, if your friend 626 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: came to you and told you that they were in 627 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: an open relationship, I can't understand actually going back at 628 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: them and saying that you didn't agree with it, because 629 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's everyone's own personal decision. 630 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: And it seems like Abby and Conrad have had to 631 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: come out about this because they live in the public eye. 632 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: So if they didn't. 633 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: Come out and tackle this head on and be really 634 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: open and honest about it, I can just imagine what 635 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: Abby's dms would have been, like, oh, Conrad's cheated with me, 636 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: or like the articles in the Daily Mail. So I 637 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: think that they've really done this in a really positive 638 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: and open way. And now it's just I just feel 639 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: bad for them for getting so much backlash over it, 640 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: because it's their lives. 641 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: Let them live their lives how they want to live them. Well, 642 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: that's the thing. 643 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Abby said that she was worried that people would project 644 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: their own feelings about their own relationship into hers, and 645 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: she was very f that's definitely happy, yeah, and she 646 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: was very frustrated over that point. And as you say, Kate, 647 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Abbi revealed that because of their high profile status as 648 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: a couple, they were forced to come out with this 649 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: news about their relationship because Abby said she was scared 650 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: of receiving dms from fans saying that their friend had 651 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: slept with Conrad, and she was also very concerned that 652 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: The Daily Mail would publish a photo of Conrad out 653 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: kissing other girls in public and and they would then 654 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: frame the story that Abby was being cheated on. 655 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just was. 656 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: Shocked how surprised everyone was, because having listened to Abby's podcast, 657 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: it didn't surprise me at all that she and Conrad 658 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: were in an open relationship, because she's spoken a lot 659 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: before about how she's previously been in an open relationship. 660 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 661 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Well, Abby did go into it on the podcast episode 662 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and said that for her, it is a kink to 663 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: have her partners sleep with other people. 664 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: Here's what she said, the more like try to like 665 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: diagnose me, like it's because you've been cheated on so 666 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: much you think it's all your worth. 667 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's my kink. 668 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: And then I'm sitting at a dinner table with strangers 669 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: saying my kink is wanting him to fuck other people? 670 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: Do you want me to explain that more? And they go, no, 671 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: that can't be true. 672 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: I think it's really good that Abby actually referenced that 673 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: this is her kink, because otherwise a lot of people 674 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: might have thought being a bit misogynistic. Oh, Conrad must 675 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: have forced her into this. Conrad just wants to go 676 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: around and have sex with other women. It's funny you 677 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: say that, Amy, because it's actually the complete opposite. Abby 678 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: is being accused of pressuring Conrad into having an open relationship, 679 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: despite the fact that Conrad is the one that's actually 680 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: slept with someone else, and Abby said she hasn't yet. 681 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: And it just seems wild to me because every time 682 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: Conrad and Abby are in the media, she is being 683 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: portrayed as the person that's in the wrong all the 684 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: time and the baddie, and he's portrayed as, oh, he's 685 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: just being led along by Abby. I think the reason 686 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: that people jumped to conclusions and thought that Abby was 687 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: trying to force him is because he admitted that he 688 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: has never been in an open relationship before. But they 689 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: then did reiterate that it was a choice they made 690 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: before they even met. And as you touched on, Kate, 691 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Conrad has revealed that he has had sex with someone else, 692 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: and it was someone who has been involved in an 693 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: open relationship before. They referred to her as a third Now. 694 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: Abby said that she's been too busy with her national 695 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: radio show to have sex with anyone else, and also 696 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: that she does find it difficult to meet new people, 697 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: so really doesn't play into this persona that a lot 698 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: of critics are trying to push that Abby is the 699 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: one forcing Conrad into this. It's pretty disgusting that the 700 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: Courier Mail then published off the back of this podcast 701 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: a story with the headline Abbi Chatfield and Conrad bian 702 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Stevens we can cheat on each other. This was shared 703 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: across their Instagram, clearly for clicks, and the heading was 704 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: so incredibly misleading and really missed the mark on what 705 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: could have been a really important discussion about open relationships now. 706 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Abbi responded to the Courier Mail on Instagram, writing, Lol, 707 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: what a wildly misleading, gross title. When we say we 708 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: can cheat on each other, we mean there are boundaries 709 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: in our open relationship that can be crossed and would 710 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: be called cheating. But we are open If we sleep 711 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: with other people that isn't considered cheating. Jesus Christ, how 712 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: embarrassing for you. What did you guys think. 713 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: About this article? 714 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like there are two very different demographics 715 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: who are commenting on this story online. You've got the 716 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: boomers who are outraged by the story who can't believe 717 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: that Abby and Conrad are in an open relationship. 718 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: And then you've got the other side of the. 719 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: Internet, who are the woke gen Zea's who are really 720 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: outraged at the fact that people are having a say 721 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: about private relationship. I just think it's so brave of 722 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Abby and Conrad to be so public about their relationship 723 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: because in Australia, the concept of ethical non monogamy is 724 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: relatively new, and I feel like those interested in actually 725 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: pursuing having multiple partners and those sort of relationships, they 726 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: often lack any sort of social support and understanding, so 727 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: many find it really difficult to broach the topic with 728 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: family and friends and also co workers. I feel like 729 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: it's very taboo at the moment, but now that Abby 730 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: is bringing it out into the mainstream, it's going to 731 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: open up so many important discussions and help normalize these 732 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: sorts of relationships. And I think that's why the backlash 733 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: is so sad, Because these two well known people are 734 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: in an open relationship. We should be applauding that and 735 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: actually looking at them to educate others on this type 736 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: of relationship, except we're now demonizing them and trolling them 737 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: for coming out and being truthful about the status of 738 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: their relationship. Well, I think that's all we have time 739 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for joining us for 740 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, could you please 741 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. 742 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: And if you want to join in on the conversations, 743 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: head over to our Facebook group, which is outspoken for 744 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: the podcast community.