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Speaker 3: the show. Hello Sianna and welcome to the Rise and

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited for you to be here and to

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Speaker 3: But let's get back into the episode.

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Speaker 1: So now, being I guess it does feel a little

447
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: bit stuck, don't you think We look around and everyone

448
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: in America is traveling to like Mexico, and everyone in

449
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Europe still able to travel between countries, and I think

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Speaker 1: Australia and New Zealand are probably well. I might be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I think we're two of the only countries that

452
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Speaker 1: are actually still limited majorly by where we can go.

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Speaker 1: And so it's kind of been nice and humbling in

454
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Speaker 1: some ways, but very challenging in others.

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Speaker 2: Especially through winter.

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to travel and get away, but now

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Speaker 1: that summer is approaching, I kind.

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Speaker 2: Of like it here.

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Speaker 1: So people keep asking me, They're like, where are you

460
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Speaker 1: going to go when the border is open? Or you

461
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Speaker 1: can fly wherever you want, and I'm like, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I love Australia in the summer, like I don't know

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Speaker 1: where I'd rather be.

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Speaker 3: That is so true, and I feel the exact same way.

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Speaker 3: Like me and my husband were supposed to go to

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Speaker 3: Europe in the winter, so I was like major like

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Speaker 3: down off for that, but then now that is summer

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Speaker 3: and it's so beautiful, I feel the exact same way.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, honestly, Australia is so beautiful and we

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Speaker 3: are obviously so lucky to live so close to the

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Speaker 3: beach as well.

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Speaker 1: So lucky. And then a couple of my friends have

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Speaker 1: decided to do road trips. They're from Queensland, so they've

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Speaker 1: just kind of gone up north as far as they

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Speaker 1: can and all around Queensland.

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Speaker 2: And it's so beautiful here.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yes, so true. I've seen a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: I actually have a holiday booked in to go to

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Speaker 3: the WIT Sundays in a couple of weeks and I'm

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Speaker 3: so excited to do that.

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Speaker 2: And that's what's pretty envious.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's amazing. And I couldn't agree more in regards

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Speaker 3: to it being humbling and it kind of going, look,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make you know the best in you know,

485
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Speaker 3: this sort of situation, if that makes sense, rather than

486
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Speaker 3: looking at it as such a negative.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was always going to happen exactly

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Speaker 1: how it did. And so yeah, just learning from it

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Speaker 1: has been. It's been interesting to witness but beautiful at

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Speaker 1: the same time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. All right, let's switch gears and let's

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Speaker 3: talk about your book, You Will Rise. So I know

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Speaker 3: that I was reading somewhere that you said, I think

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Speaker 3: it was on your Instagram, that this book is seven

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Speaker 3: years in the making. Can you tell us a little

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Speaker 3: bit about that process and why the process has been

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Speaker 3: so long.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it has been seven years in the making, which

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Speaker 1: does sound extensive.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, in a very long time, I guess because

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 1: But I think at the same time that is why

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Speaker 1: the book is so wholesome and so broad in what

505
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: it can convey, because it is just a journey or

506
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: it's a recount. It's a collection of my memories and

507
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: the experiences that I've been through that are just human experiences.

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00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: They are things that we all go through, and so

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Speaker 1: there's everything in there, from heartbreak and loss and grief

510
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: and shame and falling back in love and falling back

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Speaker 1: out of love again, and everything that you can think

512
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: of what it means to be human is within there.

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Speaker 1: So it is just a journey. And to me, writing

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Speaker 1: is a form of self therapy. I found it when

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Speaker 1: I was healing through depression and I used to just

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Speaker 1: find flow mode or like a state of flow where

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Speaker 1: I would sit in the car after work or UNI

518
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Speaker 1: and I would just write just in notes on my

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Speaker 1: phone sometimes in a journal for hours, hours and hours

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Speaker 1: and hours, and I would find that I would get home,

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Speaker 1: let's say at like seven pm, and I I would

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Speaker 1: be in the car until one am.

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Speaker 2: And I would just lose track of time completely.

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Speaker 1: And I knew afterwards that I'd expressed everything, and I'd

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Speaker 1: vented everything that I needed to, and I felt so

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00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: much calmer and clearer, almost as if I was so

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Speaker 1: separate and distant from the things that I'd embodied so

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00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: wholesomely only moments before. And then I realized that it

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Speaker 1: was like a hug for my soul to write. And

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Speaker 1: when I began sharing these online, just in captions at first,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of how it started, and captions on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: I began to understand.

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Speaker 2: That it had the same effect on the people reading.

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Speaker 1: It and consuming it, and I was told by them

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Speaker 1: I would get DMS or emails saying like thank you.

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00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I felt so alone and all this is exactly what

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Speaker 1: I've been feeling, but I didn't know how to put

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Speaker 1: words to it. And they felt connected and they felt

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00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: seen and heard and understood, and that was so important.

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Speaker 1: And so then I kept writing, not because I wanted to,

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Speaker 1: but because my soul needed to.

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Speaker 2: And after a while.

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Speaker 1: It began to feel like I wasn't the writing the

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Speaker 1: book necessarily, but the book was writing me.

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Speaker 3: And so I just want to explain the book to

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Speaker 3: the listeners so they can kind of understand a bit.

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Speaker 3: I've got it in front of me, so I love.

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Speaker 3: So you've got a beautiful sort of passage and it's

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Speaker 3: like some of them are bigger, some of them are smaller.

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Speaker 3: So you've got a beautiful passage and then a photo

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Speaker 3: and it's almost like you said, like these really beautiful

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00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: short passages of recounts and feelings and just so yeah,

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00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: beautiful to read. And I also love that it kind

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00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: of flows in this almost journey with you, and I

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Speaker 3: know from like the contents it's split up into these

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Speaker 3: and I'll read it out if that's okay. So the

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Speaker 3: first chapter it's like unfold and on Earth, love and lust,

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Speaker 3: accept and surrender, growth and gratitude, explore and transcend. Can

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Speaker 3: you explain us a little bit about why you have

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Speaker 3: kind of split it up in these sections and what

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Speaker 3: they mean to you.

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Speaker 1: I think it was just the different phases that it

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Speaker 1: felt like my soul had gone through, and different parts

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Speaker 1: that I'd embodied throughout the years, the most memorable ones

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Speaker 1: at least, and all of the poems that are inside

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Speaker 1: the book seem to fit really well, really snug.

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Speaker 2: Within each one of these and I want it to

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Speaker 2: be like.

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Speaker 1: A journey, a journey not only of the journey that

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Speaker 1: I've been on, but the journey that we will go through.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, life is so chaotic and

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Speaker 1: so it works just as well. And I love doing

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Speaker 1: this myself. Is just opening up to a random page

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Speaker 1: or setting an intention and then opening up to a

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Speaker 1: page and just trusting that that is what you need

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Speaker 1: to hear that day.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I was Actually that was my next

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Speaker 3: question of how would you recommend someone sort of you know,

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Speaker 3: read through this book and go through this book? Do

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Speaker 3: you recommend going from start to finish or is it

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Speaker 3: more like an intuitive pick a page.

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Speaker 4: I think you can use it however you want.

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Speaker 1: In the introduction I said that I hope that the reader, you,

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Speaker 1: the reader, can.

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Speaker 4: Use it as as I do in the ocean.

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Speaker 1: So you can go and you can fully submerge, and

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Speaker 1: you can spend hours and hours just enjoying bathing within it,

588
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: or you can just dip your toe in every now

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Speaker 1: and then whenever you need to.

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Speaker 3: I love that. And do you have a favorite section

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Speaker 3: of the book or a favorite passage?

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Speaker 1: It honestly changes all the time, literally all the time.

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Speaker 1: Because that's that's what I mean, and like we are

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Speaker 1: such transient beings and where beings of duality and there's

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Speaker 1: so much going on within us that yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's why now. I mean, I've obviously read it cover

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Speaker 1: to cover a couple of times, but that's why now

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Speaker 1: I go to it just every day or whenever I

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Speaker 1: feel call too, and just open up to a random

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Speaker 1: page because I know that it will give me whenever

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Speaker 1: I need to hear. And sometimes I'm like, oh, maybe

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Speaker 1: that was yesterday's and I'll do it again.

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Speaker 3: I love that I would, actually, and I've been. I've

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00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: been doing this the last couple of mornings, which I love.

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Speaker 3: I'm a person who, like I love picking like a

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Speaker 3: tarot card. I love picking that sort of side of things.

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Speaker 3: So I have absolutely been loving doing this with your book.

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Speaker 3: And I really wanted to read out the page that

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Speaker 3: I picked today, if that's okay, Yes, please do okay.

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Speaker 3: So this is on page one fifty nine and it

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Speaker 3: says from now on, I'm saying yes yes to the

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Speaker 3: things that I was once afraid of, Yes to the

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Speaker 3: things beyond my comfort zone, and yes to everything I

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Speaker 3: used to say no to. Yes to me yes to you,

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Speaker 3: Yes to liberation, yes to healing, yes to expansion, yes

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Speaker 3: to love. Yeah. I bloody loved that, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I got yeah, I got all tinkler. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that was for me. I'm hoping that some of the

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Speaker 3: R and C listeners resonate with that too.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I hope so as well. That was so sweet.

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Speaker 2: I love hearing you reader.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should get you to do like an audio

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Speaker 1: version and then I'll just like say, every day, do.

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Speaker 3: You want me to do the audio book?

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Speaker 2: Because I a new place. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: And I would love to ask you. I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: know as we're talking. It's probably been one of the

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Speaker 3: most amazing experiences writing this book. But has there been

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Speaker 3: any challenges along the way?

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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that was like a part

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Speaker 1: of it. I knew that going into it though, because

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Speaker 1: I've never done it, so we're so such unfamiliar territory

634
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: and it's such exciting territory at the same time, though,

635
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Speaker 1: because I knew that there was going to be just yeah,

636
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: things that were out of my control or a lot

637
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: of little hiccups and things along the way, but they

638
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: kind of just like lace it really well.

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Speaker 4: I suppose kind of like little.

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Speaker 2: Gun job buttons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that the time that went into it

642
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: was probably something that I had overlooked, so that I

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00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: submitted a lot more poems that are in there. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's one hundred and fifty in there, but

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Speaker 1: I submitted I think about four hundred. So culling them

646
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: was really hard because going through and choosing it was

647
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: impossible for me because I was like, they're all It's

648
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: like choosing your favorite child, right, I was like, they're

649
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: all my favorites, and because they all mean so much

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00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: to me about different things, and every time I read one,

651
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I remember exactly where I was, exactly what I was

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Speaker 1: feeling when I wrote it, and who it's about and

653
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: what I was going through, and so it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to pick.

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Speaker 2: And choose between them. So thanks to the publishers for

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Speaker 2: helping me do that.

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Speaker 1: The editor is and then but the time into actually

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Speaker 1: making it as well.

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Speaker 2: So I finished writing it end of.

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Speaker 1: End of last year, and then there was a couple

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Speaker 1: extras that I put in kind of last minute that

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Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, there are more recent ones that

663
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Speaker 1: I just love and I really.

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Speaker 2: Want them in there.

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00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but most of them were finished end of last year,

666
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Speaker 1: and so it's been such a process just over the

667
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Speaker 1: last year of actually creating it into what it is today.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't understand that before going through the process.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just like, oh, you write a

670
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Speaker 1: book and then it's published straight away.

671
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Speaker 2: But no, it's not like that at all.

672
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Speaker 3: Because yeah, I could imagine there would be so much

673
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: that went into it. And something also that I absolutely

674
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: love is all the photos that go with it. And

675
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Speaker 3: I was wondering, are these all photos that you have taken?

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Speaker 2: Most of them are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so most of them over the last six years

678
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Speaker 1: when I've been traveling, So they've been taken all over

679
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: the world in some of my favorite places. Again, why

680
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: it's such like a collection of memories to me because

681
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: it's so I don't know, I get almost like travel

682
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: sick looking at it because I remember the places so

683
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Speaker 1: vividly and I just want to be transported back there instantly.

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Speaker 1: And some of them were taken by my brother. I

685
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Speaker 1: started taking him on trips with me probably about five

686
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: years ago and introduced him to photography and he was like,

687
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Speaker 1: this is amazing. You get paid to do.

688
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Speaker 2: This, And I was like, yeah, like you can.

689
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 1: Too, And so he was a lifeguard at the time,

690
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Speaker 1: and he started he kept his stage and he stayed

691
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Speaker 1: as lifeguard for a while, but started doing photography and

692
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Speaker 1: videography himself.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's probably a.

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Speaker 1: Handful in there that are taken by him, and then

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Speaker 1: there's another handful that are taken by my ex partner

696
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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, and I would love as this. We like to

698
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: give a lot of actionable tips to our audience, So

699
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Speaker 3: I would love for you to kind of speak on

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Speaker 3: if someone is in the same spot where they you know,

701
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Speaker 3: they really want to pursue their passions and do something

702
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: they love, which in society today, I feel like sometimes

703
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: or most of the time, we're kind of told not

704
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Speaker 3: to do that and to pursue the safe option and

705
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: you know, to do what we should do rather than

706
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Speaker 3: what we want to do. What advice would you have

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Speaker 3: for that person?

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Speaker 4: Don't listen to the people who are telling you otherwise.

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Speaker 1: No, I just I don't know. I feel like it's

710
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: almost like your soul's mission. It's our dama to uncover

711
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: these things that we're intended to do, like that is

712
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: why we're here. And so I think just following your

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Speaker 1: curiosities and uncovering your passions and the things that you

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Speaker 1: really love doing. And those things will often find you

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Speaker 1: so even if you're not intentionally seeking them out, or

716
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: maybe they'll just creep up on you when you're least

717
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Speaker 1: expecting them, or maybe it's something that you've known your

718
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Speaker 1: entire life that you want to do. I think it's

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Speaker 1: almost like it's not even a choice. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: you need to do those things because if you don't,

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Speaker 1: you will fall into them effortlessly or accidentally anyway. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of what it was like

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Speaker 1: for me with the book, is that I knew I

724
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Speaker 1: loved writing, and.

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Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, one day I'd make a book of.

726
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Speaker 1: It, but didn't actually know how that would come about.

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Speaker 1: And I think that once you know who you are

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Speaker 1: and you're firm in that belief and you can stand

729
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Speaker 1: up for yourself and you know your values and your worth,

730
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Speaker 1: the universe recognizes that and starts conspiring for you. Everything

731
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Speaker 1: it does happens for you, not against you.

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Speaker 3: Ah, you're literally like reading all my favorite quotes. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I love that so much, and I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a big believer in you know, when you

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Speaker 3: have and I say this all the time, it's like

736
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Speaker 3: when you have a desire put on your heart, like

737
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Speaker 3: don't ignore it, Like, don't ignore it. It is there

738
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Speaker 3: for a reason and you're meant to explore it and

739
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Speaker 3: see what happens. And even if it's you know, not

740
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Speaker 3: the end goal or you know, what you do for

741
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Speaker 3: a career, is like, it's put on your heart for

742
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Speaker 3: a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're always where you're meant to be.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really softening a softening reminder as well.

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Speaker 3: It feels like a bit of a relief.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely part of the process. I love that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sianna, I want to just finish off the interview

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Speaker 3: with a couple of like questions, So tell us about

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Speaker 3: your morning routine. I'm sure how you know. We already

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Speaker 3: spoke about your gratitude and your yoga, but what does

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Speaker 3: your morning routine look like?

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Speaker 2: I love mornings.

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Speaker 1: Mornings are sacred and they just prime you for the

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Speaker 1: day and it sets the tone. And so I think

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Speaker 1: it's really important to cultivate a really clear morning routine

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Speaker 1: and something that you not just rely on, but it

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Speaker 1: almost helps to like I don't know, soften you.

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Speaker 2: Out or like prep you for the day.

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things that I like to

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Speaker 1: do every morning or most mornings. Again I'm human. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I sleep in past twenty five alarms.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: But I think connection to self, connection to source, and

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Speaker 1: connection to others is really important. And I have a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that I do each day or pretty

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Speaker 1: much every day if I can. Every day, I'll make

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Speaker 1: my bed very first thing before I even like walk

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Speaker 1: out of my room, before I even take out my retainer.

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Speaker 2: Like literally first thing I.

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Speaker 1: Do is make my bed, and so then I've achieved

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Speaker 1: something before I've done anything else, which I love.

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Speaker 2: And then I'll meditate for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: I like to move my body, whether it be going

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Speaker 1: for a walk outside, taking my shoes off on the sand,

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Speaker 1: or going for a swim some how, like just moving,

776
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Speaker 1: connecting to nature, yoga, whatever it is. Mindfulness and gratitude

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Speaker 1: I love. I'm huge on that. So again, whether it

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Speaker 1: be writing it down or just feeling it and embodying it,

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Speaker 1: and then.

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Speaker 4: Connection to mother nature as well.

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Speaker 1: And so sometimes on most days it'll be I like

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Speaker 1: to wake up as early as I can. Sometimes I'm

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Speaker 1: exhausted and I sleep in a lot snooth, so many alarms.

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Speaker 1: I'm not actually a morning person. I don't find it

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Speaker 1: easy to get up, but I don't like missing a

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Speaker 1: sunrise if I can. So in winter it's been different

787
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Speaker 1: because I don't like any up with the cold, so

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Speaker 1: I have been sleeping in but normally, and I'll get

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Speaker 1: a little bit better now that someone's coming back around.

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Speaker 1: I like to wake up just before the sun rise

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Speaker 1: and either meditate beforehand, or wake up and then go

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Speaker 1: down to.

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Speaker 2: The beach and meditate on the beach.

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Speaker 1: But before I go out, I'll wash my face, I

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Speaker 1: brush my teeth, I tongue scrape, do a face soil,

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Speaker 1: and I have an elixa, whether it just be caging

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Speaker 1: water and lemon, or whether it be some kind of

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Speaker 1: water a body bloom and which is like a digestive

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Speaker 1: thing and some lemon, or I have a medicinal mushroom

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Speaker 1: and cacao and black ginger what I call an adulthole

801
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Speaker 1: chocolate just because it's it's kind of spicy.

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Speaker 2: With the ginger.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, gradu, your parodies go out and move,

804
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Speaker 1: do some yoga, and then I like to get into

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Speaker 1: my emails and my work after I've been primed the

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Speaker 1: right way.

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Speaker 3: I love that, and I couldn't agree more. I'm such

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Speaker 3: a morning person. I need to do like my little

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Speaker 3: morning routine to really feel myself so I can get

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Speaker 3: into my day. Do you have like a no phone

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Speaker 3: rule in your morning routine?

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Speaker 1: I guess I do, but not religiously, as in I

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Speaker 1: definitely notice how much better I feel when I don't

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Speaker 1: use my phone straight away. And so yeah, I like

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Speaker 1: to get through the morning routine first, but not exclusively,

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Speaker 1: which I should probably maybe try to do.

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Speaker 2: But like I wake up.

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Speaker 1: With my alarm on my phone, like I need to

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Speaker 1: just get I don't know, a separate alarm, or get

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Speaker 1: deeper sleep so that I can just wake up naturally

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Speaker 1: a five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone can do that.

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Speaker 1: If anyone is out there and they just naturally wake

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Speaker 1: up at five o'clock, I envy you.

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Speaker 2: I'm so jealous of you. It's so hard to get

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Speaker 2: out of bed.

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Speaker 3: That is so funny. I'm someone who's like I'm very

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Speaker 3: light sensitive. So if like we have blackout curtains so

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Speaker 3: I don't wake up, but if the curtains were to

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Speaker 3: be open, I would one hundred percent wake up with

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Speaker 3: the sun. It's like, but it's annoying to.

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Speaker 2: Me because no, I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 1: I sleep with my windows open every single night because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to wake up with the sun,

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Speaker 1: and if I have them closed, I will not wake

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Speaker 1: up until like two pm.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's bad.

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Speaker 4: That's such a good sleeper that it's frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is hilarious. Well, one last question to finish

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Speaker 3: off the interview and then I'll let you go. And

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Speaker 3: this is another question that I've been asking all my guests,

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00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 3: and is what advice do you give yourself when you're

843
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: having moments or self doubt or fear around something new.

844
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Speaker 3: What is the pep talk you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: I think just have ten seconds of radical, insane courage

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00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: and vulnerability and just be open to trying something new,

847
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: because we all know that we regret the things that

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00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: we didn't try more than the things that you did. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who wrote that. It's like the

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Speaker 1: most quoted quote ever. I'm pretty sure, but it's honestly,

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00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: but it's it's that way for a reason because I've

852
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: never regretted trying something new. Even if I hated it

853
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: or I didn't enjoy doing it, I learned from it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's why we're here, just to

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Speaker 1: explore an experiment and adventure with curiosity and playful childlike

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00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: curiosity at that.

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Speaker 3: I love that so much. Thank you so much, Sianna.

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Speaker 3: And could you let the audience know where they can

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Speaker 3: find you and where they can find your amazing book.

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00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes, of course you can find me on Instagram, Siana

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00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: release s j A n A E l I s

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00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: on YouTube as well and my website, and then the

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Speaker 1: book is available if you want a direct link, just

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Speaker 1: from the link in my Instagram bio.

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Speaker 3: Amazing and I'll make sure I put that in the

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Speaker 3: show notes as well, guys, so you can go check

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Speaker 3: that out. Thank you so much, Danna. It has been

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Speaker 3: an absolute pleasure. Sorry, I'm commpletely mumbling my words.

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Speaker 1: Don't even worry about it.

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Speaker 3: It has been an absolute pleasure to have you on

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Speaker 3: the show.

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00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. You're a little

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Speaker 2: bubble of sunshine.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. And that is it for today's episode.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 3: this chat and guys, if you did love this episode,

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Speaker 3: if you love the podcast, please give us a review

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Speaker 3: podcast and you love the conversations that we have, I

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Speaker 3: think that you would love our Facebook group, So come

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Speaker 3: and join us. It's just Rise and Conquer podcast community.

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Speaker 3: And yeah it's a private group where we chatted all

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Speaker 3: things we do on the podcast. But thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for listening. I'll chat to you in our next step.

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Speaker 2: It was for me, there's no there's all the time

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Speaker 2: for dreams and