1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sophie Gwiederland's twenty two thousand 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: dollars coaching program, Tammy Hembro denies throwing shade at her ex, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: and Sarah's Day's Beach House plans. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert, and I feel 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: like I need to put out an official apology. So 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: a lot of Friday we discussed Kim and Courtney Kardashian's 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: feud over their weddings, and we ended up getting a 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of feedback. And it wasn't about whether people were 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: on Team Kim or Team Courtney. It all had to 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: do with how he pronounced now, I've got to be 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: careful doghe and Kabana. 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: No, you did not. It's Gabana. 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: See when you guys were talking about this topic, I 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: thought you were saying it wrong, but I. 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: Was too scared to interject. 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Well, there were a few arguments in between recording of 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: the episode, and when people are tense, no one wants 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: to pick on what someone said. I even thought it 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: sounded like I was saying Kabana at one point too, 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, is that just the brand's name. 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I got really hungry during it because as ever and said, 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: kapana is like a type of meat, a type of 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: sausage that you usually have in a cheese platter. So 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I think we were just vibing that it was the 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: weekend soon we were going to kick back with a 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: cheese bladder. But I don't think anyone's actually said it correctly, 29 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: and I think the anger from listeners stem from the 30 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: fact that we were talking about people mispronouncing Taylor Lautner 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: slash Lautner's name. Yeah, it was pretty funny because I 32 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: had a laugh over the weekend because Sarah's day has 33 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: also been mispronouncing a word wrong, and it's quite embarrassing 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: because it's the name of a skincare brand that she's 35 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: worked with for four years. So the revelation came to 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: her attention when a follower commented on a sponsored video 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: asking for clarification on how the brand's name is pronounced. 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Let's throw to what she said. Not only have I 39 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: been using the products for four years or something, but 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: I am friends with the girls who work there, Like 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: I've had lunch with them they are so beautiful, and 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: I've been saying as me, I've been saying, I've been 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: telling you guys like I love Esnie Skin Minerals. 44 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: Was someone gonna tell me. 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: It's It's pretty funny because she ended up posting a 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: poll asking her followers how they think the brand should 47 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: be pronounced it, it's almost came across as passive aggressive, like. 48 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: No, I'm still right about it. 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I thought those stories were pretty funny. I am a 50 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: little bit surprised that Sarah has opened up about her 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: relationship with the brand and the fact that they're friends. 52 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: If you have that level of friendship with someone, why 53 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: didn't someone just say. 54 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Hey, babe, you've been pronouncing. 55 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Everything because it's awkward. We obviously record ads for the podcast, 56 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: and when we work with brands, if there is a 57 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: name that is difficult to pronounce, it will be like 58 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: phonetically spelled out, or if you misrecord it, they will 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: not approve it. So I don't understand how this has 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: passed as May's apro against. Clearly, we're not being sponsored 61 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: by Dulcy and Gabbana because that would have been a 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: total shit show. When we've had all the comments flooding through. 63 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: It was really funny because I was like, Oh, I 64 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: can't believe people are so offended by that. Anyway, last 65 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: night I was listening to a podcast and it was 66 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: with the creator of the UDI and the guy who 67 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: was interviewing him kept saying, Oodie, now navigated the Udie 68 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: and the guy kept I think it's Davy Foggery. 69 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I created. 70 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: The UDI, and he kept going with saying Oudie, That's 71 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: what I think maybe the ESME girls were doing at lunch. 72 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: They might have been like as May and Sarah's day 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: is just like not picking up or not listening to them. 74 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: That's where I could clink and someone be like, that 75 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: is morse code directed at this person for whatever reason. 76 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: From a Positano balcony. Tammy Hembro has addressed the rumors 77 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: that she was throwing shade at Matt Pool's new girlfriend. Now, 78 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: for those who missed it, last week, Matt Pool hard 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: launched his girlfriend, Maddie Woodwood. Following the news, Tammy she 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: had a video of her and his sister Ava miming 81 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: too a song about seeing your ex with a new woman. So, 82 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: what did Tammy have to say about all the controversy. Well, 83 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Tammy doesn't actually normally address stuff like this, so it 84 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: was quite a big move that she said anything at all. 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: But she said that she wanted to put out a 86 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: PSA so that people are clear about it. I also 87 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: noticed that she's deleted the offending TikTok video too. Now. 88 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: She denied that the video was throwing shade, and she 89 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: explained that months ago she had sent her sister the 90 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: viral Abba song and that they said that they planned 91 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: a mime to it when they got to Italy. And 92 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: this has been a viral TikTok that has been going 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: around for quite some time. Now, let's throw it to 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: more of what she said. 95 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: As per usual, everything I post like people think it's 96 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: directed at someone, it's shade at someone, or it's some 97 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: hidden secret meaning behind it. 98 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: No, to me, TikTok is just TikTok. I You'll never ever. 99 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: I can assure you, you will never see me like 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: posting something directed at someone or being shady. 101 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: That is just. 102 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: Not not who I am. That's not I'm too focused 103 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: on my own life to even be aware of what's 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: going on in other people's lives, let alone like look 105 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: at this view, look at where I am anyway, I 106 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: just like, let's all just be friends. This isn't nothing 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: has to be that serious. Like one person was like, oh, 108 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: it's okay, you'll find love one day again, thank you. 109 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: But that's not what I was getting at, and nor 110 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: was I throwing shade at anybody. 111 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: I promise you that it is. 112 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Interesting that she's actually come out and addressed this. I 113 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: find it funny that she didn't actually say Matt's name 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: and says, oh, that I'm talking about someone. We all 115 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: know who that someone is. Do you guys believe what 116 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: Tammy's saying. Well, firstly, I think that the reason that 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: she has come out and addressed it is because her 118 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: young daughter, Posey is involved. I mean, this is the 119 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: father of her child. She needs to have a good 120 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: relationship with him. I think that they were planning on 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: doing this viral TikTok video, but I think that they 122 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: probably purposely planned to release it, or it was convenient 123 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: timing to release it because they probably got a lot 124 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: of extra engagement and they could almost put out a 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: message without putting. 126 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Out a message. 127 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: See I disagree. I actually think it was just a 128 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: complete fuck up basically, and one hundred percent do, because 129 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: why would you want all the negative comments. It's not 130 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: like people have been going, oh good on Tammy. There's 131 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: been a lot of trolls who've come out and have 132 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: attacked Tammy. That's a little bit earnest because she said, 133 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: I'm too focused on my own life to be aware 134 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: of what's going on in other people's lives. But this 135 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: is the father of your child who you share custody with. Yes, 136 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Posey is in Europe with Tammy at the moment, so 137 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: you would think that her and Matt would be communicating 138 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: a lot. But do you think it's got to the 139 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: point where everyone's just reading into everything And it became 140 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: a big thing because people in the comments made it 141 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: a big thing and everyone got talking and I just 142 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: don't understand. But the lyrics literally throwing shade at seeing 143 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: your ex out with a new young partner. Matt Paul's 144 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: girlfriend is twenty one, he's thirty five. There's a large 145 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: age gap between them. Also, Tammy did say that she 146 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: blinks and people read into it, so she was clearly 147 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: aware that putting out something like that around that timing 148 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: was going to generate some headlines. And the fact that 149 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: she deleted as well, Like I sometimes feel like if 150 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: someone doesn't address something, you're like, oh, maybe there's no 151 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: legs in it. But when they actually come out and 152 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: unusually address it and then delete it, I feel like 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: something's gone down between her and math. From some of 154 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: the dms that we've been receiving, I feel like there 155 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: is a lot more to this story and a lot 156 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: more that's going to come out about this relationship. 157 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: People must be like Hillary Duff makes her children listen. 158 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: To her that next moment where I'm like, this is 159 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: our damn bop? Can you guys believe that Hillary Duff single? 160 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: So Yesterday turn twenty last week? 161 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: That is just crazy. 162 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: That makes me feel so old because we had the 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: DVD and it had the making of the film clip, 164 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: and I remember we used to watch her film clips 165 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: on repeat and then you kind of watch a little 166 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: bit of the making of it. I just remember all 167 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: the outfits in the video, like Everything's Bigger in Texas 168 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: and the denim skirt and everything. Yeah, it was pretty 169 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: funny because the account Betcher's posted about the anniversary on 170 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 1: Instagram and they shared a clip from the music video 171 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: and wrote, Hillary Duff, So Yesterday came out twenty years 172 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: go and we'll be wearing a mini jean skirt, studed 173 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: belt and sling back heels in honor. 174 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: Now. 175 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Hillary reposted the video on her Instagram story, and she 176 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: followed up by sharing a photo and it appears that 177 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: she took this photo at a shop and it was 178 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: a collection of studded belts on display for sale, and 179 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: she wrote, how in God's name a these back? And 180 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: she added the face palm emoji. 181 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Doesn't that just show the cycle of fashion? 182 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that that was in twenty years 183 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: ago it's back again. It blew my mind that it 184 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: was twenty years ago, because you forget how young Hillary 185 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: Duff actually was, like the fact that she was what 186 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: like sixteen doing that film. 187 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: But I feel like everyone. 188 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: Forgets how big Hillary Duff was in the two thousands 189 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: because she was the big thing before Miley Cyrus. And 190 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I feel like Miley Cyrus was almost eclipsed Hillary Duff's fame. 191 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: And I came across this TikTok of Clayton Snyder. Now 192 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: he played Ethan Kraft on Lizzie McGuire with Hillary Duff, 193 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: and he was interviewed on this podcast and he spoke 194 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: about how his mum had invited Hillary Duff to his 195 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: school dance. Can you imagine Lizzie McGuire and Ethan Craft 196 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands rocking up to your school dance. 197 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: How wild would that be? Oh my gosh, she would 198 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: have absolutely been swarmed by people. Yeah, well that's what 199 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. That's what Ethan said, But that's 200 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: what Clayton said. So he said that his mum was 201 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: hoping it would be this positive, normal experience for Hillary, 202 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: but she ended up getting swamped and then these cool 203 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: guys were trying and come up on the dance and 204 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: be like, would you like to dance? He said he 205 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: doesn't think Hillary had a good time at all. Was 206 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: the interview in Jake Thomas's podcast, because Jake Thomas is 207 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Matt McGuire, Lizzie's brother, and he has started this insane 208 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: podcast where he just brings on all the characters from 209 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: Lizzie McGuire and dishes all the secrets from behind the scenes. No, 210 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: it was actually a different podcast, but I'm interested in 211 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: hearing that. I love all these nostalgic podcasts coming back 212 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: in going through the behind the scenes of these nineties 213 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: and early two thousand show. 214 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 215 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Hillary's daughter Banks Apparently she loves the Metamorphosis ced yeah, 216 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: and she always says to Hillary, Oh, can we play 217 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: it in the car? So she said, it's so embarrassing. 218 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: She'll be like cruising into school blaring her own news. 219 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: That is so funny. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. 220 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: That's a great album. 221 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: It's funny because she was like, actually, I mean I thought, oh, 222 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: these are a bit lame, and then I got into them, like, wow, 223 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: these are bangers. 224 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: You know. 225 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Clayton Snyder, he's actually on cameo. 226 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, And I saw that. 227 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I think it's about fifty dollars to get a message 228 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: from him, And it was just it blew my mind 229 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: because he was so mature, and his wife's in some 230 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: of the videos, and I thought, who the hell is 231 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: paying though to get messages? And he's like I played 232 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: Ethan Kraft and Lizzie Maguire, Like that's the start of 233 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: all of his messages. 234 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,119 Speaker 3: I'm Sophie Whitdlin, The bod founder and prebol Cambastard. 235 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: Sophie Gwidlin is the latest influencer to shock her followers 236 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: by the cost of her online courses now. The fitness 237 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: influencer has sold online courses before, but this time it's 238 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: a bit different. She is now offering one on one 239 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: coaching and mentorship programs. The catch is, though, that the 240 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: most expensive course will set you back twenty two thousand dollars. Gosh, 241 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: that's so ridiculously expensive. I mean, everyone's been going on 242 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: about Georgie Stevenson's course. They're like fucking nothing compared to this. 243 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Was definitely making Kurt Till's course sound quite you know sheep. So, Kate, 244 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: what do you actually get for twenty two thousand dollars? Well, 245 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: I think it's this whole one on one element with 246 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Sophie that you're getting. But it appears that she doesn't 247 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: over zoom, so I don't really know how beneficial that 248 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: will be to people. Like, if I was paying twenty 249 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars, i'd expect to do it in person. 250 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that doesn't. 251 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Surprise me because if she only did it in person, 252 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: she'd close herself off to those who live in her state. 253 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: So who are these courses promoted to? Well, according to Sophie, 254 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: the courses are suitable for empowered women who are ready 255 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: to make a change and step into their next direction. 256 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: And on the website it says that the mentoring will 257 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: suit business owners, home parents, procrastinators and can help in 258 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: areas of weight loss, limiting beliefs, timeline therapy, as well 259 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: as releasing negative emotions. Apparently, the coaching will give women 260 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: crystal clear direction in life. I'm not against people actually 261 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: seeking out mentoring, and sometimes you do actually to put 262 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: money in, you know, say, as business owners, to actually 263 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: inspire you. And there are some courses that are worthwhile. However, 264 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: twenty two thousand dollars, you'd want to be making sure 265 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: you are getting return on. 266 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: Investment for this. 267 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when I found out more about how you 268 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: actually become certified in this area, I'm thinking, well, I 269 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: wonder how much the seven day modular course cost, because 270 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't you just do the course that the universities all 271 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: these just tax deductions for people who run businesses? Is 272 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: this what's happening now? I can't really imagine someone going 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: to their business and being like, this fitness influencer runs 274 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: this twenty two thousand dollar course, can we do it? 275 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: She's obviously not aiming for the masses. I mean, having 276 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: prices as high as twenty two thousand. 277 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: Dollars for a course. 278 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: She's obviously only needs, you know, a handful of people 279 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: to sign up to make it worthwhile. If you're that 280 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: successful that you're willing to spend twenty two thousand dollars 281 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: on meeting up with someone three times, do you really. 282 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Need to do the course? 283 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 284 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know who actually has money in this cost 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: of living crisis to afford something like this, And I 286 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: would love to know if anyone's actually done it and 287 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: see what they got from. All is clearly the very 288 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: elite and people who already are successful in business. I 289 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: actually don't think it's the elite that's doing this course. 290 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: I think it screams at someone who is a big 291 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: fan of hers that wants to be one on one 292 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: with her, and she's I mean to be honest, I 293 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: would really highly doubt that many people would be signing 294 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: up to this at all. 295 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: Hi, Penny, did you get the message? 296 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 297 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: Such a pity they counsel. 298 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. 299 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: The message about helping is out an economy pers of. 300 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: It feels like every influencer and celebrity is currently experiencing 301 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: a eurosummer, and I'm really loving the fact that some 302 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: influencers have been opening up about their random celebrity encounters 303 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: whilst they've been abroad. 304 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: And the first one. 305 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about is Katia Milan running into 306 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Chris Jennet in Capri. How do you run into Chris 307 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Jenny because surely she has a massive security team with her. 308 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering, because Cartia said that she 309 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: was walking down the street near the shops, of course, 310 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and she physically bumped into Chris Jenny. It wasn't just 311 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: the sh though, these were designer shops, and she said 312 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: that she immediately said sorry, looked up and realized it 313 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: was Chris Jenner. 314 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: And as you said, I just was so shocked that 315 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: she didn't. 316 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Appear to have any security guards around her. She seemed 317 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: to be roaming the streets relatively on her own. Now, 318 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: when Katia then met up with her friend, she discovered 319 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: that her friend had also just met Chris Jenner. But 320 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: this friend asked for a photo and proudly showed the 321 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: camera the selfie. 322 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Now that friend is. 323 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: Ashton Wood and she co hosts Common Chaos with Katier. Yeah, well, 324 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: she was definitely very excited about it because apparently she 325 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: watches The Kardashians every night. Now, Katia explained that, you know, 326 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: whilst her co host wasn't playing it very cool. Katia 327 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: apparently doesn't generally fangirl over people, but Chris Jenner is 328 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the exception because in her friendship group, everyone says that 329 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Katia is just like Chris Jenneer. So she wasn't satisfied 330 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: with just bumping into her, so she said that she 331 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: had to go and find her and say hello. And 332 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: they spotted that Chris Jenna was in Gucci, of all places, 333 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: not in your adulcy and Kebana or Gabana or whatever 334 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: however you pronounced it last week. No, no, she wasn't 335 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Indultcy and Gabana. Now, they did go into the store 336 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: and pretend to try on bags, not very subtle. Let's 337 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: throw to what Cartier said. 338 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: We're trying on a bag and then she goes she's 339 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: walking out of the store and she goes, that's here 340 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: and then goes a bit for I would buy that 341 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: if I was yell to me to me. 342 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, this such just the Cardassians every. 343 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: Night of her life, like every night, like. 344 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: I don't really want you don't repeat, repeat, I just 345 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: love kJ I am that's I literally say. My goal 346 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: in life is to be Christian Anyway, anyway, comes to 347 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: Cabrea and meet your idols. 348 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: I love how Chris Jenner commented on the bag. Because 349 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: she's been a celebrity for years, she would know those 350 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: girls had gone in there to stalk her. 351 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. 352 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: You would be so aware as a celebrity that you'd 353 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: suddenly see the same random people popping up everywhere where 354 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: you were. I do like that she was nice to them, though, 355 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: because some celebrities would go the extreme and be really rude. 356 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: Do you think these sort of stories highlight the difference 357 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: between influencers and celebrities like it actually highlights I suppose 358 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: what nobody some influences. I mean someone like Cartia Milan. 359 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: She has such a big following, but she wouldn't even 360 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: be on Christianna's radar. I do love that she had 361 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: to reiterate though, that she doesn't usually fan girl people 362 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: or she's not usually starstruck. It's probably because she has 363 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: recently been dating that quite famous Chelsea Soil. Another random 364 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: celebrity encounter is Molly May and Beyonce. Now, Molly was 365 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: staying at a London hotel for her birthday that Tommy 366 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: organized and they went all out, so he organized. 367 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: This massive suite that was across two floors. 368 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: And Molly said, when they arrived, they noticed that there 369 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: was this absurd amount of security, so they thought, who 370 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: is staying next to us. The fact that they noticed 371 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: there was additional security is a big thing because back 372 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: when they were robbed, they ended up getting extra security 373 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: on board. So I assume they would travel probably with 374 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: quite a bit of security themselves, like, fuck, we booked 375 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: too many security guards this trip. 376 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 377 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: Now, Molly really didn't play it cool, so when she 378 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: found out that it was Beyonce staying there, she kept 379 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: loitering around the door, just hoping to run into her 380 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: and looking in the peep pole. Well yeah, so she 381 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: said that basically she was standing in the doorway and 382 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: she heard this commotion that they were leaving their hotel room, 383 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: and basically the security came out. 384 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: And told her get back into your room. 385 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: They don't want to see anyone, they don't want to 386 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: speak to anyone, please get inside. 387 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: So Molly's like, oh, that's. 388 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: Fine, and went back inside and Tommy said to her, 389 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: why are you embarrassing us here, and so she said 390 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: she couldn't help it. So she quickly looked through the 391 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: little peep pole and she's like, they were. 392 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: This close to me. I saw Beyonce, JYZ Blue Ivy. 393 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: I said, if I just opened the door, I could 394 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: have touched them. I wonder if they knew that it 395 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: was Molly and Tommy staying next him, Like, would they 396 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: have any idea by the law as a Love Island 397 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: couple that are staying next door. Can you imagine if 398 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: this was you and it was Taylor Swift, because I 399 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: would just walk out. 400 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I wouldn't care about the security. 401 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: I think Taylor is such a nice person that she'd 402 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I just do love the fact though, 403 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: that Molly is a celebrity herself and she would have 404 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: to deal with people reacting this way about her. But 405 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: even all that she knows about that, she still chooses 406 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: to act in that way. And that's why I love her. 407 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the people on the other side, like 408 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: the other sweet, They're like, oh my god, like Molly 409 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: May's staying here, that's like you, Sophie just trying to 410 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: loiter upside. 411 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give a fuck that it was beyond that. 412 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: I'd be like, Molly May. 413 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna address the elephant in the room. Sarah's Day 414 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: has opened up about her plans for her new holiday 415 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: house four months after buying land by the New South 416 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Wales Coast. So a number of influencer watchdog accounts have 417 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: speculated that the property is located in Woomboro in New 418 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: South Wales and that the land set the couple back 419 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: three point two million dollars. Now you're saying land, but 420 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: there is actually a house on this land. But apparently 421 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't up to scratch for Kurt and Sarah. I 422 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: think they described it as a dump or like a 423 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: garbage It was being advertised as land because I think 424 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: that the house was pretty terribly you know, they called 425 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: it garbage. 426 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, the house is garbage. 427 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Remember they said that their house that they're currently in 428 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: was shit as well, and it was just like needed 429 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: nothing done. Now, can I point out that this is 430 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: just speculation. It's not confirmed that the land costs three 431 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: point two million dollars, but it looks like it could be. 432 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: On the money. 433 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I remember back in March, Sarah copped a lot of 434 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: backlash because she promoted this as a life changing announcement. 435 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: It was so odd because normally when an influencer promotes 436 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: something as life changing, is usually like they're pregnant or 437 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: they're getting married or some sort of like big milestone. 438 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: But oh, we're so happy for you in this cost 439 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: of living crisis that you're buying a mansion of holiday house. 440 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: It was complete clickbait. 441 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: Now At the time, Sarah said that the holiday house 442 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: would be used for photo shoots, so she made it 443 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: sound like it would be part of her business house 444 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: of Grom's, and also that they would use it as 445 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: a holiday house. I feel like she's tracking on that 446 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: business side of things though in this recent aount. Yeah. So, 447 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: she said that she has been inundated with questions about 448 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: the property, so she wanted to explain what it will 449 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: actually be used for. 450 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: She said it will. 451 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Primarily be used as a family holiday house, and. 452 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: She explained that they're hoping to build it so that 453 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: there's enough. 454 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Room for all of her nieces and nephews to stay in, 455 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: so it sounds like it's going to be absolutely massive. 456 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: She also said that she would like to design the 457 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: house so that it could be booked out for photo 458 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: shoots and weddings, and she said that the land is 459 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: so large that they think that they could have some 460 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: ceremonies there. So it just it puts into perspective how 461 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: large this property must be. 462 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 463 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: She also mentioned that they might possibly rent out as 464 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: an Airbnb. I wonder how that would go. I know 465 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: we've had other influences do airbnbs in Bali, But I 466 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: feel like if I were Sarah and this is, you know, 467 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: my family holiday home that I'm having all my nieces 468 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: and nephews stay at, I wouldn't want to open it 469 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: up to the general public. Yeah, particularly when she's had 470 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: issues surrounding her privacy before. It sounds like they have 471 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: a very high tech security team at home. They sort 472 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: of get up in arms if anyone invades their privacy rightly, 473 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: so so it is kind of confusing. I don't think 474 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: that she would want fans to be staying there, but 475 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: she did say in her video, who knows, maybe one 476 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: of you will stay at my holiday house. And I 477 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: think that's because she's trying to almost share it with everyone, 478 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: because she knows that it comes across as incredibly privileged 479 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: and unrelatable. Will the address is going to get out 480 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: pretty quickly if she is actually listing it as an airbnb, 481 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: and they might find that if they're down there for 482 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: a shoe, or they're promoting the fact they're on a 483 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: family holiday, they're going to get a lot of people 484 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: outside their house. 485 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: I do wonder how. 486 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: Sarah's followers felt because she was also outlining the fact 487 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: that she was meeting with her architect and also her designer. 488 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Now she is using the the same designer, Maddie who's 489 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: from Studio Albus. And whilst I think a lot of 490 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: people do follow her for aspirational content, it is just 491 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: so unrelatable at the moment. She started off by saying 492 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: she dressed up in an architect extra theme, like it 493 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: was justecially, like. 494 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: Black pants and black T shirt. 495 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: I saw some of the photos that she's sharing on 496 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: Pinterest of her mood board of this place, and it 497 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: looks like a Spanish feeler, Like it's insane, And it 498 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: wasn't even prefacing like, oh, this is a vibe. But 499 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's not going to look like this at all, 500 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: like she dad said, wants it to look like this. 501 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: It's going to cost a lot of money and I 502 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: think the thing that gets my nose out of joint 503 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: is that I don't think she approaches it in the 504 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: right way because a lot of influencers will say, oh, 505 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, big time influencers. 506 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: Will say without you, guys, I could never achieve this. 507 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: But I don't really think that there's much thanking of 508 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: her community. And the other thing that I found really 509 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: odd is all throughout it, she kept saying we won at. 510 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: The auction, we didn't expect to win. It's like you 511 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: didn't win. You paid a fun ton of money for 512 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: some expensive property. 513 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: It's not like a lot of I mean, you earned 514 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: the money, it's your own money. Kudos to you for earning. 515 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: It, but like, you didn't win it. 516 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: I've got a different point of view because Dale and 517 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I were looking for so long for our house, and 518 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: I felt like we won the auction, even though we 519 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: had to pay the bill. 520 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: It was like, oh my God, like, finally we've got one. 521 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: I can't think that's a bad headspace to be around property, though, 522 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: But I also think that she was almost phrasing it 523 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: as they won to sort of downplay the fact that 524 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: they spent a lot of money on it. More so 525 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: to say I mean some people might have thought, oh wow, 526 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: did they actually win a house? Like you know, there's 527 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: lots of these auctions, you know, these home lottery. We 528 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: heard someone say I won an auction. They won Mitch 529 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: Allrviel's home lottery. It's quite interesting because for years they 530 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: spoke about buying farmland, but now Sarah said that they've 531 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: had this epiphany that they're happier by the coast. Well, 532 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for before we 533 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: sign off, though, I just wanted to flag it is 534 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: Outspoken's fourth birthday today. 535 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: How crazy is that? 536 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: As if it's been four years. I can't believe four 537 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: years ago we dropped the first episode. Now I say we, 538 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: but I actually wasn't involved. 539 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: In that episode. You were a bit mi iak. 540 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: You didn't really jump on board the podcast probably until 541 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: six months in. It used to just be Amy and 542 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I on the cover. I know it mean, does this 543 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: mean so f and eye I can go out and 544 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: celebrate then and maybe in six months will take you 545 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: ho it's still involved, but I was working at the 546 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: thirty sixes and had no spare time. 547 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: It's really wild. 548 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: It's pretty wild because it's actually Amy and my six 549 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: year anniversary for our business, Hulu Media. So I think 550 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: this week we've got to go and treat ourselves to 551 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: a nice dinner out because I feel like a lot 552 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: of the time you let these nice milestones go by 553 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: without celebrating. We also need a special four balloon as well. 554 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: I feel like the listeners also need some kind of 555 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: reward because they've been having to listen to this for 556 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: four well maybe our partners as well. That's a bit harsh, 557 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: I think though, I wonder if anyone is still listening 558 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: from the start. We should put a thread up in 559 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: the Facebook group and ask when people started listening. Thank 560 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: you to the ogs that have been with us for 561 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: four years. 562 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: It's absolutely incredible. 563 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: About to Rodney, I feel like he is the biggest og. Yes, 564 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: our mother, Yes, thank you Rodney, I think you have 565 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: been there for all four years. And don't forget to 566 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: chune in on Wednesday because we will be dropping our 567 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: latest subscriber episode. If you do want to sign up, 568 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: all the details are in the show notes below, And 569 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: the best bit is if you have you've got an 570 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Android phone, you can actually listen on Patreon, so it's 571 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: available on Patreon and Apple now. This episode was recorded 572 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the 573 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present