1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, the WhatsApp footage chat that 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: didn't stay In Vegas, a Chinese restaurant has been forced 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: to apologize to a group of food bloggers and the 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: TikTok war over Easter baskets. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and we are 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: joining you on a Wednesday. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: Which feels a bit weird. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: The week has been thrown all out of whack because 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: of the East a long weekend. 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: But we had a great time. It might seem a bit. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: Unconventional, but on Easter Sunday we got all of our 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: in laws together from massive barbecue at a national park 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: and our parents and our parents our parents were that too. 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't just in laws, but it was such a 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: fun day. Like my partner and I were saying that 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: it just exemplified happiness, Like we were just saying, just 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: to see everyone getting along so well. Yeah, and your 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: sister in law brought along some of her friends from 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the UK and I was just looking at the barbecue 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: through their eyes and I just thought, how Australian does 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: this actually look like there were kangaro everywhere at the 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: National Park. The fact that we were putting our Easter 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: eggs for our annual hunt and they were just melting 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: because it was I think it was like thirty four 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: point five degrees. Yeah, it was the hottest easter on 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: record in like seventy three years or something. It's crazy 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: now because it has turned so wintery since it's ticked 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: over to April, but I'm actually loving the relief from 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: the whole weather. 31 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: It's so nice. 32 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: It took it out of me. It was the first 33 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: time where I felt really heavily pregnant. 34 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 35 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: We went on a little walk to a waterfall which 36 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: actually turned into be a damn and you couldn't come 37 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: with us. And I think that was because you've been 38 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: so good during your pregnancy. You've just been doing everything. 39 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: You've just been working. I kind of forget that you 40 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: are pregnant. Well, it was a four k walk in 41 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: thirty four degrees and I really wanted to go, but 42 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I've got to sit this one out. 43 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: We actually thought you guys had gone missing. We're like, oh, 44 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be the case UK tourists missing in the 45 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Land National Park. Yeah, I can just imagine the headlines 46 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: I write themselves. 47 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: Now. 48 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: How much chocolate did everyone eat over the long weekend? Oh, 49 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I have eaten so much, which I think I mentioned 50 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: on the subs episode wasn't great because I actually did 51 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the gluecoat tests today for my pregnancy and it didn't 52 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: stop me because on the sheet it's said to eat 53 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: your normal diet, and my normal diet at Easter time 54 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: would be a lot of Easter eggs. 55 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: I have to Outdale. 56 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: So on Friday, I was bragging about how organized I 57 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: was because I'd bought these speckled eggs that have gone 58 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: viral on TikTok and they've sold out everywhere. 59 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: I went to use them in a recipe and I found. 60 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: That he had eaten every single one of them. I 61 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: got a very upset call from you, being like, can 62 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: you fucking believe this? Because you were meant to be 63 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: bringing a chocolate cake to my house with said speckled 64 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: eggs on top. Well, Dale didn't even realize that speckled 65 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: eggs are an Easter thing. 66 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's literally a bunny on the front packet. 67 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: How could you not realize their actual eggs? 68 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't make I think he thought they. 69 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: Were em and m's I really comment on the publicity 70 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 5: of about players personal lives and relationships. 71 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: They say, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but 72 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: that is not the case for a group of Brisbane 73 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: lines players. Thanks to an iCloud mishap amy, this footy 74 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: trip is making headlines in the mainstream media and the 75 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: rumor mill is rife on TikTok. What is going on? Well, 76 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: it all started in October when the Brisbane Lions went 77 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: on their end of season trip to the US. So 78 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: while the team was away, they set up a WhatsApp 79 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: group to communicate, which is quite ironic because generally people 80 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: set up WhatsApp groups because it's encrypted and they think 81 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: that people can't gain access to it. In saying that, though, Sophie, 82 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: it is a common way that sports teams actually communicate 83 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: with each other. Because when I was working at the 84 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: thirty six is we only ever communicated with players on WhatsApp. 85 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in politics use this too, 86 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: because they think that there's less chance of their messages 87 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: being read. Well, that wasn't the case though, because unknowingly 88 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: one of the players accidentally linked his WhatsApp to his 89 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: iCloud account, which led to his partner accessing the group 90 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: chat back home. So the shit absolutely hit the fan 91 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: when the partner uncovered alleged incriminating photos and messages, and 92 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: as you would do, the partner then shared the content 93 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: with other players, wives and girlfriends. Now it's believed some 94 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: players ended up leaving the group trip early, and there 95 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: was even one relationship that ended because of these messes. 96 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: That would have been me if I had got my 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: hands and some incriminating evidence. Here you go like a 98 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: what is a carrier pigeon? Just it was the worst send, 99 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: sending out all of the details to everyone on me 100 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and girls when Rodrinior just prints everything and throws it 101 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: all that. 102 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that the said. 103 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: Girlfriend that uncovered all of these messages probably was a 104 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: little bit suspicious of what was going on the fact 105 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: that she managed to find the WhatsApp account that was 106 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: linked to the eye cloud like there is a bigger story. 107 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: There, Oh, definitely. 108 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what went down when these guys found 109 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: out that this WhatsApp group had been made public? Is 110 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: it's the worse when you do go looking for something like, y'ah, 111 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: just check it, just in case you're almost hoping to 112 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: be like, oh fuck, I feel bad for having me Look, 113 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: I want to know what was in it, because debate 114 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: is currently raging whether this story is in the public interest. 115 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I would say yes. 116 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: Well, it only. 117 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: Became public on Good Friday, and that's when AFO reporter 118 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: Sam McClure broke the news on three A w which 119 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: was then later picked up by The Herald Sun. 120 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what Sam said. 121 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: A few headaches since the trip to America late last 122 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: year between ten players at the fair, chunk of which 123 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: were Brisbane players, ended in Las Vegas, and certain information 124 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 3: got home to loved ones that didn't go down too well. 125 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: It's caused rift in some relationships. It's caused other relationships 126 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: to end between players and partners, and there's even suggestions 127 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: put to me today that it's caused some tough conversations 128 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: to be had between teammates as to what went on. 129 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Now, this story was deemed newsworthy by the journalists because 130 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Brisbane has lost the first three games of the season 131 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and there is speculation that this wattsapp incident has caused 132 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: a rift amongst the. 133 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: Playing group of course. 134 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're now saying, well, this has affected their 135 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: on field performance, so this is why the media are 136 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: reporting about it. It's interesting to think about how this 137 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: story already actually got out to the media in the 138 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: first place. Well, I've worked in sports media before, so 139 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: I would presume it was probably a leak from one 140 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: of the disgruntled girlfriends. I also think TikTok has a 141 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: big part to play in this because more recently we've 142 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: been saying not only AFL players, but also their partners 143 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: jumping on the platform, trying to build profiles for themselves, 144 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and it's in a completely different way than we're used to. 145 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Of Course, we've seen players girlfriends and wives becoming super 146 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: popular because of something that they may wear to a 147 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: club event like the Brownlow. However, this time around with TikTok, 148 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: they're sharing behind the scenes of their life all throughout 149 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: the season, so they're getting heaps of us. I think 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: there's a girlfriend on TikTok who has nearly five hundred 151 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: thousand followers just by sharing her life as an AFL 152 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: player's girlfriend. 153 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's that Demon's player. 154 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: He's always making his wife dinners. 155 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: I'm making dinner for my lawyer wife. 156 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you think about it, bet jadd Nadia Battel, 157 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: they have huge profiles. The profiles now eclipse their famous 158 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: AFL sporting husbands and ex husbands. However, there was a 159 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: time when people were like, I actually don't know what 160 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Nadia Bartel's voice sounds like. However, now the player's partners 161 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: are actually gaining traction because of their personalities and what 162 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: they put out there on TikTok. Well, surprisingly this story 163 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: didn't break on TikTok until the three awpiece. So the 164 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: journalist Sam McClure, he actually said it was senior club 165 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: officials that let him know the details about this group trip. 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: That actually really surprises me because I used to deal 167 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of dramas when I was working in 168 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: sports media and it would be my job to brief everyone, 169 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, how to keep this story locked down? How 170 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: do we respond to it? And you would think in 171 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: a professional sporting club like the Brisbane Lions, that senior 172 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: staff members would not be leaking detrimental stories like this. 173 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't actually think that some of the Brisbane Lines 174 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: officials thought that this would ever make the news because 175 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the sports journalists, they're very much in 176 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: cahoots with the club. And if you think it, like 177 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: for example, Channel seven News reporters, seven owns the rights 178 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: to the football, so they never want to do anything 179 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: that brings the AFL into disrepute. And it's the same 180 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: with some of these sports journals that are connected with 181 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: the clubs. They don't want to not be given access 182 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: to players, they don't want to ruin their relationship with 183 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: the club. And so I think there were whispers going around, 184 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: but no one really had the nerve to actually say anything, 185 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: like people have known about this since October. Yeah, but 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: one of the sports journalists did pull the pin on it. 187 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: And I actually wrote my thesis about this type of 188 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: celebritization and tabletization of AFL media. And you're correct in 189 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: saying that some sports journals are in the pockets. 190 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Of AFL clubs. 191 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: However, it does get to a point where these stories 192 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: do need to be broken, and usually you will see 193 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: an entertainment journalists potentially breaking this story because it does 194 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: involve the personal lives of the players. That's what would 195 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: happen often when I was working in the media, if 196 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: there was a juicy story to break about the AFL 197 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: law about a certain sports sporting club. They would often 198 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: put the general news reporter on the story because they 199 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: don't want to sever the ties between these sports journal 200 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Now Brisbane's chief executive Greg Swan, he has been forced 201 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: to comment on the claims, and he has told reporters 202 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: he didn't know if the WhatsApp group chat had been 203 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: accidentally uploaded to the iCloud, but he shut down suggestions 204 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: that the trip was affecting the club's on field performance, 205 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: labeling the claims as bullshit. 206 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what he said. 207 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 5: As a football club, we were initially reluctant to speak 208 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: on this because a club, we don't really comment on 209 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: the publicity of our players personal lives and relationships. But 210 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: now I feel they need to speak on behalf of 211 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: the club and in support of our players when their 212 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 5: partners and families were brought into this following some poor, 213 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: insensitive and factually incorrect meat and reporting. 214 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that he's taking this moral high 215 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: ground and saying, oh, we don't comment on the players' 216 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: personal lives and their partners. Look at the NFL and 217 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: how they have used Taylor Swift and her connection to 218 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs to actually bolster the whole league. 219 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Look at how the Brownlow utilizes the women to portray 220 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: such a glamorous event. 221 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: It is bullshit. 222 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: It is a cop out. They clearly didn't want this 223 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: getting out to the media because it has affected their 224 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: player's ability. Yeah, and Brisbane, they were in the Grand 225 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: Final last year, so the fact that they have lost 226 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: three games on the trot, people are going to start 227 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: asking questions why are they performing so badly. The only 228 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: thing I don't like about this story is that a 229 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: lot of publications have been posting photos which have been 230 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: taken from some of the players' social media accounts on 231 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: the trip. 232 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: So they've been putting up. 233 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: Certain players photos and they have put this little disclaimer saying, oh, 234 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean these players were involved, you know, in. 235 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: The WhatsApp drama. 236 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: But I'd be pretty pissed off if I was the 237 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: partner of one of the players and his photo was 238 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: being plasted everywhere and then everyone was. 239 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: Questioning my relationship. 240 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: But surely it would be easy for journalists to work 241 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: out Okay, hang on, which of the players have split 242 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: with their partners? 243 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: I mean, people is in the photo? 244 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: People are saying who are split on TikTok, and we're 245 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: choosing not to name any of those people. 246 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: The media has. 247 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Chosen to leave names out of it, which I actually 248 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: think is really responsible reporting. Now, Kate, we spoke about 249 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: the relationship between sports journalists and sporting clubs and there 250 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: are fresh reports today that the Brisbane lines are considering 251 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: boycotting the Herald Sun and the radio station three AW 252 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: who broke the story. Does this surprise you? It doesn't 253 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: surprise me that an AFL club is doing this. It 254 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: would surprise me if it was a basketball club or 255 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: an Apple club who I've worked with before, because my 256 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: relationship with media when I was working at those clubs 257 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: is we need to suck up to everyone. We need 258 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: to make begging for Salis lives as easy as possible. 259 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: Here's the package. Let me write the story for you. 260 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: But when it comes to the AFL, that's a whole 261 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: new kettle of fish, and they do have a lot 262 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: of power. I mean in saying that though AFL isn't 263 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the biggest sport in Queensland, so in that sense it 264 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: does surprise me because they're not a calling with They're 265 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: not a Carlton a lot of people don't really care 266 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: as much about the Brisbane lines, and also it creates 267 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: a vendetta with those publications and they're probably more likely 268 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: to report negatively on that club. Well, what Brisbane are 269 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,479 Speaker 1: doing is they're throwing their weight around and they're basically 270 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: issuing a warning to other media outlets that we're going 271 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: to boycott you if you print anything we don't like. 272 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: And I think this is really dangerous. I feel for 273 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Sambaclure because he's just doing his job and this could 274 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: ruin his career. Now he's basically being blacklisted by the 275 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: Brisbane Lions. Yeah, we're very interesting to see how this 276 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: plays out, particularly if Brisbane continue to lose, because I 277 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: don't think they're doing themselves any favors by doing this. 278 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: It just looks really petty and surely they should just 279 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: let this all blow over and just get on with things. 280 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Very child guy. So I like to listen to Beyonce, 281 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: probably my favorite artists. 282 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: In what can only be described as a crushing blow, 283 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Saffron Baker's ex Lewis Rezamit has officially been signed by 284 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: an NFL club, now only month or two into their 285 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: well winned relationship. Lewis jetted off to the US to 286 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: take part in an intense ten week training camp in 287 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: the hopes of getting signed by an NFL team. Now 288 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: you can't even write the script for this. Over the weekend, 289 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: Lewis has been signed by the Kansas City Chiefs, none 290 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: other than Taylor Swift's boyfriend's team. 291 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: God. 292 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: I saw this and my heart sunk because this guy 293 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: appears to have treated Saffron very badly. She mentioned on 294 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: her podcast this week that he gas lit her. It 295 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: appears that he allegedly cheated on her, and we were 296 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: hoping that karma was real, But unfortunately this guy has 297 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: been signed up to the Super Bowl winning team. Plus 298 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: he gets access to Taylor Swifts. So I would die. 299 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: Not only do you have to put up with the 300 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: knowledge that there's going to be even more women throwing 301 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: themselves at your ex because we all know how crazy 302 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: women go for NFL players, you have also missed your 303 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: opportunity of sitting in the box with Taylor Swift and 304 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: potentially becoming her best I mean, that is the worst 305 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: thing to come from all of it, exactly. And I 306 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: saw that he's gained about one hundred and fifty thousand 307 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: extra followers on Instagram. What's also fucked is that this 308 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: deal would have been huge for Saffron's career too, because 309 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: there's so much interest in NFL players partners, and it's 310 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: no secret that she's been wanting to crack the US 311 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: market and pursue an acting career. I just think that 312 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: this would have been huge for her to be seen 313 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: rubbing shoulders with celebrities, obviously like Taylor Swift, but even 314 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: just the other NFL players wives and Brittany Homes. Yeah, 315 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: you can see why she was potentially willing to accept 316 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: some of the negative behavior turn a blind eye to it. Unfortunately, 317 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: it seems like it just got all too much for 318 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: her though. Well, the UK press have been very happy 319 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: to rub salt in the wound for poor Saffron. They've 320 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: been running headlines like Saffron Baker won't be joining Miss 321 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Swift as an NFL wag after all, And I just 322 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: think like, when you're going through a breakup, all you 323 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: want to do is sit in the car, pump up 324 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: your breakup songs and get that healing process starting. But 325 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: can you imagine her playing Karma. She's got the line 326 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Karma is the guy on the Chiefs that would really 327 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: hit different. We do say that, Well, I mean yeah, 328 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: but I mean if you're listening to the live versions 329 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: from the concert. Well, what about his contract as well? 330 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: It's reportedly nine hundred thousand US dollars a year. This 331 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: is a huge pay rise for Lewis. He's earning approximately 332 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars more than he was earning when 333 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: he was playing rugby. It's also a three year contract 334 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: and he is just the thirty seventh player from the 335 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Global Talent Program to sign an NFL contract. Now, out 336 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: of those thirty seven players, only six have gone on 337 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: to actually be on an active roster because there have 338 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: been a lot of questions is he actually going to 339 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: be pulling on a jump. 340 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: Or is he going to be playing this season? 341 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: So at the moment, he will be competing in the 342 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: off season squad in the hopes of earning himself a 343 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: position on the fifty three man roster for this season. 344 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are saying that it's stacked 345 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: against him. It's not likely he will actually make it. 346 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: As a chie it's been very good for his profile 347 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: as well. It's so awkward because Saffron is currently holidaying 348 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: in the US. I wonder when this all got organized, 349 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: because suddenly she's like, oh, yeah, I'm off to LA 350 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: with my brother's girlfriend. 351 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 352 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Well, it was believed that she was supposed to meet 353 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: up with Lewis because his ten week training camp was 354 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: coming to an end, so it would be absolutely crushing, 355 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: and fans are speculating that she is trying to catch 356 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: his attention and entice him to meet up with her 357 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: while she's over there, because she posted the location of 358 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: the hotel that she's staying at. I noticed that I 359 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: didn't think that would be very safe, but I thought 360 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: maybe there was a reason for her. Yeah. Some people 361 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: thought maybe she had to deal with the hotel, but 362 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: it is quite odd. She has also been miming to 363 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: break up songs with lines like I just want to rewind. 364 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in a long time. You got 365 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: me feeling so lonely. Hate the way I love you, 366 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: but you are so sweet. I wish that you were 367 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: laying in the same sheets, but lately you've been acting 368 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: like you hate me. Baby, come home. But that's interesting 369 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: because on her latest podcast, she was kind of giving 370 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the impression that she was living her best life and 371 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: she's happy without him. Yeah, but reading between the lines, 372 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: it was very put on because it's clear that she 373 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: was probably forced by Spotify to acknowledge her breakup, and 374 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: she knows that not only is Lewis probably going to 375 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: listen to it, but her haters as well. So you're 376 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: hardly going to go on and be like, oh, I 377 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: just wanted back. Been crying my fucking eyes. 378 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: Well. 379 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Also, it was recorded before she went to the US, 380 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: and you know, a week is a very long time 381 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: he may have reached out to We don't know what 382 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: is going on behind the scenes. She's also been sharing 383 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: videos of her getting around in a football style top, 384 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: which I just found a bit like the PEPSI don't 385 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: do it to yourself. It's so funny because before she 386 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: jetted off to the US, she actually had a run 387 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: in with her neighbor over a box of chocolates. And 388 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: I just cringed so hard at this because I feel 389 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: like it's something I would do. So to put it 390 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: into context, she is one of the UK's biggest influencers 391 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: and she would be absolutely inundated with PR packages, So 392 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: she ended up opening what she presumed was a PR 393 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: package that had been delivered to her house, and she 394 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: said that she doesn't really look at who sent it 395 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: because she just assumes it's a PR package because she 396 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: gets so many. Anyway, it ended up being a couple 397 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: of these really fancy boxes of chocolates, and she started 398 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: eating them straight away, as you would if you're going 399 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: through a breakup, and she ended up littering a whole 400 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: bunch of the chocolate wrappers in the window, like you 401 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: could see it from the outside of her house. And 402 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, she hears this banging on 403 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: the door, and she puts two and two together and 404 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: realizes that it wasn't her package at all. It was 405 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: actually the guy down the streets package. Oh, let's throw 406 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: to what she said. 407 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: I'm not joking. I've actually been hiding in my bedroom 408 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 4: for the last fifty minutes. It's even funny, like, ib 409 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: I actually did a really bad thing. Get sent these chocolates, 410 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 4: and they're like the fanciest chocolates I've ever seen in 411 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: my life. So bear in mind, these are my favorite. 412 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: I need you. I haven't had this since I was 413 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: a little child, and yes I did enjoy them, but 414 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: what I did was I opened them. 415 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: I left all of the rappers. 416 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: On the side. I must have had at least ten 417 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: of these chocolates. As I was eating them. I then 418 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: thought to myself, this is really weird, Like why have 419 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: they not said like Brandy isn't even though we brand 420 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: these chocolates are as I'm as, I'm literally like shoving 421 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: them down my throat. Anyways, and then realized, oh my god, 422 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: this was me meant me. 423 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: I love the fact that she was hiding in her bedroom, 424 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: like instead of actually going down and dealing with the neighbor, 425 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: she ran upstairs to film a TikTok video. But we've 426 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: all been there, not making a TikTok video, but I've 427 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: hidden from people knocking at the door. Yeah, even when 428 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: you know that your car's out in the front and 429 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: it's so obviously like what are they going to do? 430 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: They can't get in. 431 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because she said he could clearly 432 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: see the chocolates from outside, just spec they have in 433 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: between us. 434 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: When they got caught out by the neighbor's like, how 435 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: to fucking coming here? 436 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: I got to see you. The best bit is she 437 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: couldn't work out what brand of chocolates they were, so 438 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: she had to put a call out on TikTok, and 439 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: then she ended up having to order these chocolates from Amazon, 440 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: and then has filled the box of chocolates back up 441 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: and she went to drop them off at the guy's house. Well, 442 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering whether this was some 443 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: sort of elaborate pr stunt for the brand of chocolates, 444 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: because this video attracted one point too million views and 445 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: one hundred and three thousand likes, and she confirmed that no, 446 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: this isn't an ad at all. It's just an unfortunate 447 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: event that has happened, and she had to prove it 448 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: by showing that her neighbor had sent her all of 449 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: these voice messages asking for the chocolate. 450 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: I love that. 451 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: I love that she also wanted to share the CCTV 452 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: vision of him, because apparently he was quite irate at 453 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: the door over. From his point of view, he probably 454 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: doesn't know who Safron Barker is and he's just thought, 455 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: this neighbor has just taken my chocolates, and they seem 456 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: to be. 457 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: In quite a tight knit community. 458 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: I think that he knows exactly who she is, and 459 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: he's probably like this fucking girl who's been gifted everything. 460 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: It's eating my chocolates. Imagine seeing her TikTok whilst he's 461 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: like banking on the door. I may always wonder that, like, 462 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: do the people who the TikTok is about actually end 463 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: up seeing what? I mean? The thing is it's Easter time. 464 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Perhaps he ordered these special chocolates because people were saying, well, 465 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: how does she not know the brand of them? They 466 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: were in a tin box without any sort of label. 467 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: It only had the flavor of them. So it's clear 468 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: that he wanted these as a present for Easter. But 469 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I can see why people thought that this was an 470 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: ad because it's a really clever way to promote the chocolates. 471 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean I wanted one after seeing it. Yeah, they 472 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: were very specific as well. I'm pretty sure it was 473 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: like peppermint swells, like all the whole bottle. Well, if 474 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: you want to find them, the brand is Bentley and Ackerman. 475 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: Before we get into the next topic, we want to 476 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: point out that we will be talking about the magic 477 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: of the Easter bunny, So if you have little ears around, 478 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: it might be best to pop your headphones in. 479 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: Hey'all, happy Easter today. I'm going to be doing a 480 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: little Easter basket hole. So let's get into it. 481 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: A war has broken out on TikTok over Easter baskets. 482 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: A group of influencer mums sparked the debate after showing 483 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: off their extravagant Easter baskets they created for their children. Now, 484 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: I didn't even know the Easter baskets were a thing. 485 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: We never received them as children. 486 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: Well. 487 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: I remember some wealthy friends growing up they would give 488 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: their kids money for clothes instead of Easter eggs. And 489 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: I do also remember Brandon telling me that one of 490 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: his friends, instead of having an Easter egg hunt, they 491 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: would have a money hunt. Yeah, but that's a little 492 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: bit different because I feel like Easter is turning into 493 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Christmas because instead of a Santa Sack, people have a 494 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: basket that they've got to fill with all of these 495 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: impressive gifts. 496 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 497 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: But is this just all for social media so people 498 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: can brag about what a great mom and dad they 499 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: are for giving their kids all this stuff. Oh, there's 500 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: definitely a big element there to it, and I think 501 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: people are trying to outdo each other because of social media. 502 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: I also think it's quite an American thing because we 503 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: did learn I think it was last Easter or a 504 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: couple of Easters ago that instead of putting out chocolate eggs, 505 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: Americans actually buy those plastic eggs and fill them with stuff. 506 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: So it might be chocolate and lollies or even little 507 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: like money or treat So what are actually in these baskets? Well, 508 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: there's a full spectrums. So one US fashion blogger has 509 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: really annoyed a lot of parents out there. Her name 510 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: is Britney Xavier and she shocked her followers when she 511 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: shared that she spent five hundred and sixty nine dollars 512 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: on her seventeen year old daughter's Easter basket, so it 513 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: was packed with really expensive beauty products. There was also 514 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: a bikini that was over one hundred dollars in there. Now, 515 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: another US content creator called Miranda Harness has also shared 516 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: her teen daughter's Easter basket, which included two Stanley cups, 517 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: a notepad, skincare, and new clothes including Lulu Lemon active wear, 518 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: and a bunch of twenty dollar notes. Can you imagine 519 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: the comparison going on at schools, because imagine if your 520 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: parents have just given you a humble egg and then 521 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: you're hearing all of these spoilt brats have received you know, 522 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: because the Stanley Cup is like the biggest thing for 523 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: a teenager to get these. 524 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: She got two. 525 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 526 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: Now, on a local front, a lot of people have 527 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: been talking about Australian instagramer Hannah Pillarti's surprise for her children. 528 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: So the Easter Bunny visited her house and set up 529 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: a very special picnic. It was this big table that 530 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: was presented in a very esthetically pleasing way. I think 531 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the food was actually fake props, like 532 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: soft toy hot cross buns, and then it was also 533 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: full of like edible treats. And then the Easter Bunny 534 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: had left these massive baskets, more cutashi in style than anything, 535 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: full of presents and an Easter egg hunt. Now, as 536 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: you said, so feel sorry for the kids that see 537 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: this online and then they're just getting the humble Cabri eggs. 538 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: It seems like this year is the most extravagant Easter 539 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: celebrations I've seen in a long time, which kind of 540 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: conflicts with the fact that we're going through a cost 541 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: of living crisis at the moment. Well, I saw Steph 542 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: kles Smith and her husband were at it again because 543 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: they were sharing how they were putting out the Easter 544 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Bunnies footprints, and I thought all the crap they got 545 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: for putting out Santa's footprints, You think that they wouldn't 546 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: have put that up on a roll. They knew it 547 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: was good for engagement and views. Maybe yeah, we never 548 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: had these flower bunny poor prints before. I was a 549 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: little bit jealous. But I think they need to sell 550 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: a better footprint stencil because I don't really look like 551 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: a rabbit's foot I was thinking about that the other day, 552 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: and when I was little and believed in the Easter Bunny, 553 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: I never actually thought it was a genuine bunny. 554 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: I always just imagine someone in like a mascot suit. 555 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so, but the thing is, it doesn't look 556 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: like a genuine bunnies poor prince. We used to do 557 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: the poor prints for the kids at school when we 558 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: were in year seven. We had to set up the 559 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: poor prints take. 560 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: Some magic await. 561 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: Actually that's true, but we never had it at home. Actually, 562 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: our primary school is under fire because a pastor at 563 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: the school, and it wasn't religious school, actually told kids 564 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: at the Easter Bunny isn't real. Well recently, yeah, like 565 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: last week. 566 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: Now. 567 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton also got in on the action. When it 568 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: came to the bunny footprints, so she filmed her and 569 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: her husband Ben setting up their kids Easter egg hunt. 570 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: The best bit was they were chewing bits of carrot 571 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: and spitting it out. I've never I know, we usually 572 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: put carrots out for the reindeer, but it makes more 573 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: sense for the rabbit. Here's some good tips for you 574 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: next year, k Well, Molly May and Tommy Fury they 575 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: had another idea, Kate, that you might want to take 576 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: on board. So they had a personalized letter from the 577 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Easter Bunny to their daughter Bambi, which is very cute. 578 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: The thing is, I think. 579 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: Their parents could get away with over indulging back when 580 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: we were kids, because there was, like say, for Christmas, 581 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: there was a big break before you returned, and by 582 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: the time you got back to school, people weren't really 583 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: talking about Christmas presents and what Santa Claus had done 584 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: for them. However, Easter it's four days, so people will 585 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: remember and they're sharing it on. 586 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: So for me, yeah, okay. 587 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: I was speaking to some of your friends at your 588 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: baby show the other week and they were saying how 589 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: amazing the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus is for just 590 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: getting their kids to do stuff. They're like like, may, yeah, 591 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: we just use Santa all the time. Like, you know, 592 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: I got one of my friends to call up my 593 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: child and tell them off, Like I feel like it's 594 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: a real, real tool for parents. But they've got all 595 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: the apps now as well, so you can really play. 596 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: On it like that. 597 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: I can see why kids would behave if they're getting 598 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: all of these extravagant kids as well. I mean, if 599 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I had Lululemon tights on the line, I might behave 600 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: better as an adult. So you've come to the lobster? 601 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: No, right, right, I see, but the tornados, Yes, I'm sorry, 602 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 603 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: A court dispute involving three food bloggers, a Chinese restaurant, 604 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: and a lobster is back in the headlines. 605 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: That's pretty sponsifre now. 606 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: Listeners will remember we have been following this court case 607 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: for quite a while now, and to refresh your memories. 608 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: On Christmas date twenty twenty, food blogger Jennifer Doe, her 609 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: partner and sisters Julie and Belinda Newan went to They're 610 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: at a Chinese restaurant called Silver Pearl Now. They ordered 611 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: a bottle of red wine and a live lobster. They 612 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: then went on to claim that the lobster was off 613 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: and refused to pay, only leaving money for the bottle 614 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: of red wine. Now this is where things really kicked off. 615 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: So on the restaurant's official Instagram account, the owners posted 616 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: a picture of the women with the words fraudulent diners 617 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: over the top. They also alleged that the women faked 618 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: having food poisoning to get out of paying the bill, 619 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: called them by their names, and also slammed their actions 620 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: as dishonest, entitled, and classless. Now this actually resulted in 621 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the food bloggers suing the restaurant for defamation. Belinda claimed 622 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: to the media that following the incident, she received aggressive 623 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: and threatening messages and also lost her job. Now, somehow 624 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: this dispute made its way to the federal court. It's 625 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: really surprising because usually they try and deter you from 626 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: taking it this far because defamation cases are extremely time consuming. 627 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: They're also very expensive. So obviously the women had their 628 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: hearts set on clearing their. 629 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: Names yea, and no one was backing down. It seems like. 630 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 631 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Well, even the judge on the case was quite surprised. 632 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: He said that the matter could be better dealt with 633 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: in a lower court by the way of mediation, and 634 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: he said that he would be astonished if the food 635 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: bloggers received any substantial amount of damages if they were 636 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: successful in their case. Now, in an interesting turn of events, 637 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: on Friday, the owners posted a lengthy apology to their 638 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: Instagram account, and they also reached out to media outlet Pedestrians, 639 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: saying that the case had been dismissed with no damages 640 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: awarded to Jennifer Doe and her relatives. So in this apology, 641 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: the restaurant denied any suggestion that their seafood wasn't fresh, 642 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: but said, we now acknowledged that none of them ate 643 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: any of the lobster, and it was only Jennifer's partner 644 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: who did. 645 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: We acknowledged that they paid for the wine. 646 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: We are aware the post gained significant traction and caused Jennifer, 647 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: Belinda and Julie hurt and embarrassment. It was never our 648 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: intention for the matter to escalate to the extent it did, 649 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and we are empathetic to them for any harm our 650 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: post may have caused. Now, the apology finished by saying, 651 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: following the dismissal of the case brought against Silver Pearl, 652 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: in federal court proceedings, Silver Pearl extended an apology to 653 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Jennifer Doe and her daughters. This apology, disseminated through official 654 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: social media channels, reflects Silver Pearl's commitment to empathy and 655 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: understanding without any admission. 656 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: Of wrongdoing or liability. 657 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: So reading between the lines, it appears that they have 658 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: come to an agreement where the restaurant has to make 659 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: an official apology and the case will be thrown. Now 660 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: it's clear that they've just run out of money because 661 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: this was supposed to be heard in October of this year. 662 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Can you imagine how much the lawyers would have been 663 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: squeezing them for every penalty. It's such a shame that 664 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: this wasn't the result of mediation and it actually got 665 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: to the federal court, because, as you said, they have 666 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: wasted so much money on this, they've also wasted a. 667 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: Lot of court time. 668 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Like I understand that defamation is a terrible thing to 669 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: have to deal with, and maybe these women felt within 670 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: their right to do so and that their careers had 671 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: been negatively affected. But if anything, I think that it's 672 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: just made the story even bigger. Surely a good lawyer 673 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: would have told them to stop at this point though. 674 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: But to be honest, when I saw this apology, I 675 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: just thought, oh shit, well, actually these food bloggers didn't 676 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: do anything wrong. Yeah, but then when you actually read 677 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: the apology, it kind of paints a different picture. And also, 678 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sure after spending thousands and thousands of 679 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: dollars on this legal case, they're going to be like, oh, 680 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: well we say apologized, like you know, you can tell 681 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: that the apology was forced, and it's well, both camps 682 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: kind of have come out of it looking pretty bad. Yeah. Well, 683 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: I think we're going to wrap things up there. Thank 684 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: you for listening to another episode of Outspoken. 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