Speaker 1: How was your week? My week started off as a
Speaker 1: Kia Eving six GT, but ended with a Stonic.
Speaker 2: A Stoni. If you don't want to be racist.
Speaker 1: Thank you Paul Marrack Badle, thank you Badle. Stonnik amrack
Speaker 1: ah man man there. Let's just say there was a
Speaker 1: bit of a stuff up at the key of factory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they realized that you had turned up and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: we thought it was going to be forever long.
Speaker 1: We thought this was going to be Pavley give him
Speaker 1: a stonie anyway, wheeled out with a horse.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was just literally a man with a fishing rod
Speaker 1: to carrot.
Speaker 2: At the end. You know what, though, I actually quite
Speaker 2: like the Stonic.
Speaker 1: What do you like about it?
Speaker 3: It's it's reasonable, it's nice, there's there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 3: I don't think, mmm, what was wrong with it?
Speaker 1: It serves its purpose. When you think you're getting in
Speaker 1: a bloody zero to one hundred car from zero to
Speaker 1: one hundred and three point two seconds or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and you end up with the Stonitch, you get your
Speaker 1: grumpy pants on. But look, this car serves a purpose.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. It's it's great. If you're
Speaker 1: eighty six years old and need to go down and
Speaker 1: complain about why your meals and on wheels are late.
Speaker 1: But I don't know it's Look, I had the GT
Speaker 1: line as well. There's literally when you put your foot
Speaker 1: on the gas for the first half, there's literally nothing.
Speaker 1: There's literally there's nothing, there's no go.
Speaker 2: You are very hard to please. No, I'm not. Daniel
Speaker 2: loves that car. You've just ruined it for him.
Speaker 1: Daniel was made in the back of that car. What
Speaker 1: would his parents have listened to? Oh god, back in
Speaker 1: the day, it would have been Viralin check on from
Speaker 1: Viralin down. I think it's game. We create little.
Speaker 4: Me to care.
Speaker 2: Calllu.
Speaker 1: That's just how Daniel was created.
Speaker 2: So stupid.
Speaker 1: No wonder the internet hates me.
Speaker 2: Hey, we'll get onto that a little later.
Speaker 1: How is your week?
Speaker 3: It's very busy, so I know we're going to be
Speaker 3: talking more about this, I think next episode, but we're
Speaker 3: going through our use of the year at the moment.
Speaker 3: Australia's most comprehensive ute test. Hopefully we don't get sued
Speaker 3: for that claim even though it's true.
Speaker 2: But yes, Australia's most.
Speaker 3: Comprehensive ute test and we've been starting to roll out
Speaker 3: all of the content now, so in the next episode
Speaker 3: we'll run through who the winner is and why we've
Speaker 3: chosen the winner, and why it had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with how much money they spent.
Speaker 1: With us, says the man. Drive What do you what
Speaker 1: are you driving around at the moment? They're Pavlai.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually just getting around in my raptor because
Speaker 3: I don't know some of the other cars we've had
Speaker 3: in the office are a bit, you know, a bland.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I wonder if that's a little
Speaker 1: taste of the honey of the things to come.
Speaker 3: Oh, perhaps it is a little suckle on the nectar
Speaker 3: of the year of the year.
Speaker 1: Wow, By the way, how long have you been enrolled
Speaker 1: in tafe? Just looking in the background, if you're where
Speaker 1: you're currently situated, you've got your little lunch bag there?
Speaker 1: How sheet metal going? How are you going with that?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 3: Actually, so this is actually part of the busyness of
Speaker 3: my week.
Speaker 2: We've been moving office, so I'm in our new office
Speaker 2: at the moment.
Speaker 3: So it's quite an expanse clearly sponsored by IKEA.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are a few billies behind me, you know.
Speaker 2: The Tower of Billy. No, what was that?
Speaker 3: It's a type of ikea bookshelf. Isn't it the best
Speaker 3: selling bookshelf ever?
Speaker 2: Oh? The Billy, Yeah, the Billy.
Speaker 1: God our producer knows what that was, mainly because he
Speaker 1: lives in a one bedroom apartment with six people living
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: Billy.
Speaker 1: He's just showing me Billy. In my day, Billy was
Speaker 1: something with a gatorade bottle in a neighbors hose, a
Speaker 1: fucking bookshelf. How times have changed?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did want to say, do you know I'm
Speaker 1: going to say something completely wild? Last app I was
Speaker 1: saying that I'm not I've never really been a BMW guy.
Speaker 1: And the XM was wildly impressive to me. Right, I
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it everything about it.
Speaker 2: It was lux.
Speaker 1: So I've been thinking a lot about the whole range
Speaker 1: and they do have very much a different sort of
Speaker 1: design language now depending on the model, right, which I
Speaker 1: think is kind of far out. It's crazy. We saw
Speaker 1: the what was it, the M three and the M
Speaker 1: four with the big well instead of kidneys, they turned
Speaker 1: into Lung's teeth. Me and you sat in the IX
Speaker 1: that came around, and then there was the M two, Commodore, Commodore, comodeore.
Speaker 1: Come on, that car looked pretty sick. So everything start
Speaker 1: to look different. And then I just saw the BMW
Speaker 1: seven series, and I'm.
Speaker 2: All on the seven series.
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it. I
Speaker 1: think the whole thing, the whole the whole thing is
Speaker 1: just such a ballsy move and I'm just I'm really
Speaker 1: into it. And guess what, I think, I'm becoming a
Speaker 1: BMW guy.
Speaker 3: Oh, Janney Red comes straight out of the closet, just
Speaker 3: breaking through that door. Yeah, so I my TikTok fame
Speaker 3: came courtesy of the BMW seven series. I did a
Speaker 3: brief TikTok record that was a minute long and it
Speaker 3: got something like seven million viewerships. And basically, yeah, that
Speaker 3: was based on the screen in the second row, because
Speaker 3: it's like a thirty four inch display that folds down
Speaker 3: from the roof. And I'm interested from anyone that's listening
Speaker 3: to this, Do you think that is any reason ever
Speaker 3: to have a thirty four inch display in the second
Speaker 3: row of your car?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. This whole car seems to be
Speaker 1: set up for when I'm doing dealings with Beijing and
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to a meeting and maybe I
Speaker 1: want to look at myself on our new YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: Oh oh that's disturbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what else is disturbing?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Whacking off to yourself and Bloody the Car Expert YouTube
Speaker 1: in the back head Tesla, You're like, Tesla, engage.
Speaker 2: Subscribe and hit the bell icon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plug train new YouTube channel. Thanks for thanks for
Speaker 1: being so excited about that little endeavor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well first I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'd surprise you on that one. I'm putting
Speaker 1: work in this thing.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about right anyway?
Speaker 1: So yeah, BMW, I think I don't know what, like,
Speaker 1: what are your impressions of the seventh series? Like, what
Speaker 1: when you sort of look at this as a whole collective,
Speaker 1: it's I think.
Speaker 3: It's amazing, And I'll tell you why. I think it's amazing.
Speaker 3: I think that was saighties. Bens has dropped the ball.
Speaker 2: With the S class.
Speaker 3: The S Class just looks like a bigger, more expensive
Speaker 3: version of a C class. Yes, and I think the
Speaker 3: seven series has gone back to being about luxury, and
Speaker 3: when you sit inside it, they have it is just
Speaker 3: an array of luxury. They've really gone to town on
Speaker 3: making this thing look and feel expensive, and I just
Speaker 3: feel at the moment, when you're spending that kind of
Speaker 3: money on some of these cars that are out there,
Speaker 3: you're just not getting that feeling and that the seventh
Speaker 3: Series really takes it up that notch. Even some of
Speaker 3: the materials, like you have sort of cashmere, you know, seats.
Speaker 1: And the crystal sides as well, the crystal door lips,
Speaker 1: little screens inside.
Speaker 3: The doors as well. Like this is what the seventh
Speaker 3: Series used to be. The seventh Series used to be
Speaker 3: just the thing that blew you away. James Bond drove
Speaker 3: around in it was it a seven Series or a
Speaker 3: five series, but he drove around in that car that
Speaker 3: was controlled by a little sort of tablet like it is.
Speaker 2: It is cool stuff and they're going back to that again,
Speaker 2: which I love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I agree with everything you've said
Speaker 1: about the Mercedes, even argue that Audi's.
Speaker 2: Ouda's the same because the AA is the same sort
Speaker 2: of story.
Speaker 3: They've kind of put all of the tech that's in
Speaker 3: the AA in the rest of the cars, so it
Speaker 3: doesn't feel any different, whereas the seven series is just
Speaker 3: the seven Series. We're not going to be in a
Speaker 3: position where the three Series has a thirty four inch
Speaker 3: display that rolls out of the roof. It is just
Speaker 3: going to be the seven Series that always has that,
Speaker 3: which I think is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's completely evolved in the way in a beautiful
Speaker 1: dream like way, like it really is the car something
Speaker 1: someone would dream up.
Speaker 3: What will surprise you is the size of it, because
Speaker 3: what they heard from their customers was the customers wanted
Speaker 3: more of an suv, and obviously they didn't want to
Speaker 3: make it an X seven. But this new seven Series
Speaker 3: is a longer than the previous generation long wheelbase. It's
Speaker 3: taller than that as well, so when you see it
Speaker 3: in person, it actually looks like an suv but isn't
Speaker 3: quite an suv, but it has that feeling to it
Speaker 3: both inside and outside, so it is super sized.
Speaker 2: It is absolutely enormous.
Speaker 1: I'm a BMW gar whoa, oh hey, this is exciting.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this for a long time and
Speaker 1: it's finally confirmed. It's finally happening, and it feels properly real.
Speaker 1: Now is the Ford F one fifty. Not only is
Speaker 1: it coming, it's properly coming. The prices have been released.
Speaker 1: We know it's what Q three they'll start arriving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually really shocked by the price.
Speaker 3: I thought this was going to start about one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty grand upwards. It's starting at just under one
Speaker 3: hundred and seven grand before on roads. It'll arrive in
Speaker 3: Australia Q three, And it's interesting they're offering two different versions.
Speaker 3: They're doing a short wheel base and a long wheelbase,
Speaker 3: and the base will basically kick off with the XLT,
Speaker 3: which is kind of the shitkicker model, but the longer
Speaker 3: wheelbase is only a couple of grand more.
Speaker 2: It really isn't that expensive.
Speaker 3: So they will all be powered by three point five
Speaker 3: liter twin turbo charged V six petrol engines, so it
Speaker 3: makes almost the same amount of power and a little
Speaker 3: more talk than the Ranger ractor here in Australia and
Speaker 3: body as well, so it doesn't weigh all that much.
Speaker 3: I'm just a bit concerned. You see the pictures of
Speaker 3: the interior of the XLT, it kind of looks pretty cheap. O.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it, and I don't think it looks
Speaker 1: too bad. I mean, you've got to realize that that's
Speaker 1: sort of that sort of fit out is for people's
Speaker 1: cuck who just want to wipe stuff.
Speaker 2: Down your Daniel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think that the screen's tiny.
Speaker 2: It kind of looks a bit spartan.
Speaker 3: But if you then step up to the midspec, which
Speaker 3: is called the Lariot, I love these American names.
Speaker 2: Lariot is one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Forty grand for the long wheel base, so it does
Speaker 3: step up in price pretty quickly, but that's about the
Speaker 3: same price you're paying for a Ram fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: And this is as nice, if not nicer.
Speaker 3: Actually, hey, one of the other videos I did that
Speaker 3: went viral on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Can you stop the way?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: The way you even say TikTok is like TikTok when
Speaker 1: I moved on from mass bass and to the Tiktoks.
Speaker 3: But the other video that I had that went viral
Speaker 3: there with several million views.
Speaker 2: Was the video of two features.
Speaker 3: The the fifty we had in the States, which was
Speaker 3: the fold down gear stick that creates.
Speaker 2: A work bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There was a second feature as well that folded down
Speaker 3: the two front seats to create a bed, so you
Speaker 3: could have literally a laid flat seat.
Speaker 2: It was bloody unreal soo features.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this car right now. This honestly reminds
Speaker 1: me of that guy who who's it reminds me of
Speaker 1: that guy who's got far too much money and spends
Speaker 1: it on fishing gear.
Speaker 2: Sounds like me.
Speaker 1: Just to full on, full sleeve shimano kind of job.
Speaker 1: Puts his six pack of puts his six pack of
Speaker 1: great northerns in there. This bloody ridiculous sonni is that
Speaker 1: no one wears apart from a speed dealer. We're going
Speaker 1: to bloody Boomey Gooey and we know a mile and fishing.
Speaker 1: I'm tar on the boat. I got the Bertram sponsored
Speaker 1: by Shamanna. Me and the bloke.
Speaker 2: Yep Ie so want one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of want what they bring.
Speaker 3: If they bring the Raptor here, I'm going to have
Speaker 3: to trade up to just something a bit more, you know, big.
Speaker 1: Anything to compensate. My My dad had one of these
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and yeah, and I still
Speaker 1: remember him driving it home for the first time. All black.
Speaker 1: Those really like the big Rams. And I had My
Speaker 1: first car was a was a Swift GT I and wow,
Speaker 1: it could actually fit in the back of that car, which.
Speaker 2: Not surprised me about your first car? Makes sense?
Speaker 1: Now what was your first car?
Speaker 2: Next question, let's all.
Speaker 1: Come on with car. Let's have a look at that.
Speaker 1: Pull it up.
Speaker 2: What was that? People?
Speaker 1: The people want to know? What was it?
Speaker 2: Well? This is there is a backstory to this. My
Speaker 2: first car was a Camry, but.
Speaker 1: So he gave me ship for a for a swift GT.
Speaker 3: I drive it because the day I turned eighteen, I
Speaker 3: got my first media evaluation vehicle and since then I've
Speaker 3: just been driving those.
Speaker 2: I've only ever had those. So enjoy that. There you go.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a fucking sandwich on the table, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You don't even know what that me neither. I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at the pizza that me and our producer and
Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking hell hungry, and we skip that much
Speaker 1: so overhearing about Paul's Camra. Let's just dig into the pizza, Martie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wow a Camri.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sensible is the word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just you haven't changed. I mean, if if those
Speaker 1: river slacks were a car camera, I'm surprised you didn't start.
Speaker 1: I didn't surprised you didn't end up as a cab driver.
Speaker 2: If Uber was around when I was, I probably would have.
Speaker 1: Been Now listen, you can carry this. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. If you can buy
Speaker 1: a Polster, you'd probably want to hold on to it
Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever. Isn't that right? Pavli?
Speaker 2: Yes, So we did an interesting story. I look at
Speaker 2: some of these car companies that have.
Speaker 3: Guaranteed future valued plans and we got onto the topic
Speaker 3: of evs because I have been closely watching the cost
Speaker 3: of Tesla's and what they're worth secondhand. When you think
Speaker 3: about EV's, batteries degrade over time, so they're going to
Speaker 3: be worth less and less as time goes on. So
Speaker 3: we did a little exercise where we took some of
Speaker 3: the evs that are from bigger brands and then we
Speaker 3: put them through the brand's own guaranteed future value calculators.
Speaker 3: So we did a Mazda MX thirty, We did a
Speaker 3: Mercedes Benz eq C I think it was, and then
Speaker 3: we did a pole Star three which has yet to
Speaker 3: be released that we haven't even seen spy photos of them,
Speaker 3: so who even knows what state they're at with actually
Speaker 3: making this car. But they announced the pricing a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and it's bloody expensive. It looks cheap,
Speaker 3: but it's definitely not cheap the second you start ticking
Speaker 3: a few option boxes for stuff that really should be standard,
Speaker 3: and keeping in mind is a car that's made in China,
Speaker 3: so it is pretty cheap to manufacture compared to some
Speaker 3: of these vehicles that are rolling out of Germany and Japan.
Speaker 2: We were blown away with how much money you lose
Speaker 2: on this thing.
Speaker 3: So when you took a couple of basic options, the
Speaker 3: new price on the road was one hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: two thousand dollars four hundred and seventy one over four years.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to ask you to guess how much
Speaker 3: do you think this was worth in four years time?
Speaker 3: Keeping in mind, the new price is one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty two grand.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we start new at one sixty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've driven it around for four years sixty
Speaker 3: thousand k's, which is fifteen thousand k's a year.
Speaker 2: Pretty sort of basic stuff. How much do you reckon?
Speaker 3: Polestar says their Polestar three is worth after four years.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say between I'm going to say between
Speaker 1: sixty seventy five, I'd probably say do you know what
Speaker 1: I'd more say? Seventy five thousand.
Speaker 3: Okay, how does fifty nine thousand dollars sound? So you're
Speaker 3: losing one hundred and three thousand dollars over four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is it is? That's like over fifty percent?
Speaker 1: That's like sixty percent, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is insane. So yeah, we're really blown
Speaker 3: away by that. And to put that into context of
Speaker 3: per kilometer, it's a dollar seventy per kilometer that this
Speaker 3: thing is depreciating. So you're paying per kilometer to charge
Speaker 3: at per kilometer to service it, and then you're depreciating
Speaker 3: the vehicle constantly every single kilomity you drive, and it
Speaker 3: must get to a point where you're like, oh, I
Speaker 3: don't really want to drive it because it's just depreciating
Speaker 3: so much. And how does that compare? So MX thirty,
Speaker 3: which is the master thing that they've sold barely any
Speaker 3: of that's seventy grand on the road, that is worth
Speaker 3: after four years twenty nine grand. But as a depreciation
Speaker 3: per kilometer, it's sixty six cents, So it's depreciating far
Speaker 3: less than the dollar seventy that you're losing on your
Speaker 3: Polster s No saydes Benz a dollar twenty per kilometer
Speaker 3: in terms of depreciation. So yeah, it is remarkable, and
Speaker 3: I think it is worth just keeping in mind if
Speaker 3: you are going to buy an EV and you are
Speaker 3: going to finance it, really have a look at resale
Speaker 3: values because that I think is really important at the
Speaker 3: moment for an EV, especially compared to any other car
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like we're paying through the roof
Speaker 1: for evs generally, Like still you kind of I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have expected prices to go
Speaker 1: down a little bit. I know the Tesla has dropped
Speaker 1: their price somewhat, but yeah, I expected everything to be
Speaker 1: a lot more cheaper the.
Speaker 4: Polster and this isn't coming out till next year, So
Speaker 4: we're saying that in twelve months time, this is still
Speaker 4: going to feel like it's worth one hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: grand when you're buying it.
Speaker 2: And I just don't get that.
Speaker 3: If we're meant to be talking about EV's becoming cheaper,
Speaker 3: this thing is still twelve months away.
Speaker 2: So you have twelve months.
Speaker 3: Worth of battery development and all these advances, and you're
Speaker 3: still going to hit us with one hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: EV I think it.
Speaker 3: Blows me away even more with Polestar is that the
Speaker 3: only other car they sell at the moment is the Polestar.
Speaker 1: Too, which isn't selling great by the way.
Speaker 2: Really, it's not selling great, but it's also not that expensive.
Speaker 3: So you're telling me that if I want an SUV
Speaker 3: version of a Polestar, I have to spend an extra.
Speaker 2: Hundred thousand dollars. These people are crazy.
Speaker 1: What do you make it? The Polster Too? By the way,
Speaker 1: I remember we reviewed it, didn't we.
Speaker 2: Well, you tried to, but you remember, no one will
Speaker 2: get back to you.
Speaker 1: I know they had that sad and they got back
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Oh you go no.
Speaker 3: Look, the Polestar Too really is a bit of a
Speaker 3: failed effort in terms of advancing their EV brand because
Speaker 3: the car itself is fine, it's okay, but it's incredibly
Speaker 3: cramped inside, Like in the second row, I have to
Speaker 3: tilt my head to the left to actually fit in there,
Speaker 3: this enormous drive line hump. Because it shares a platform
Speaker 3: with an internal combustion car.
Speaker 2: It just feels like a very low effort attempt.
Speaker 3: And to think that they don't have a replacement for
Speaker 3: that coming anytime soon is totally beyond me.
Speaker 1: You weren't actually tilting your head to get in the
Speaker 1: car and Trevor in the backseat, and it was payback
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. I don't know I found there.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that Pulster two looks wise, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine. I think the inside is fine. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is just fine. It's you kind of look at
Speaker 1: it and you go, who would buy this thing? Because
Speaker 1: it's somewhat boring. You sort of think, oh, look at
Speaker 1: the flare. It's got like yellow seat belts and very
Speaker 1: like very sort of gray. It looks like furniture from
Speaker 1: an airport travel lounge. Like honestly, I thought, who would
Speaker 1: buy this? And then I realized it's someone who's really
Speaker 1: into scandy furniture.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, And look, I'm sure there is a market
Speaker 3: for that. But you just look at some of the
Speaker 3: materials like the cloth, and yeah, I don't know, it
Speaker 3: just feels like.
Speaker 2: It's not going to date very well. So like it.
Speaker 1: It just feels so corporate in there. It almost feels
Speaker 1: like a fleet car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally like a Model three, but less practical
Speaker 3: like a Model three is very basic and spartan, in
Speaker 3: so whereas a Pollstar is just the same but just
Speaker 3: not as good in terms of anything that it does.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of don't understand the point in it, do.
Speaker 1: You know what? Speaking of the Model three, I was
Speaker 1: going to do a comparison between that and what went
Speaker 1: on sale as we record this yesterday, was the Ionic six. Right,
Speaker 1: it's the kind of like their car to go up
Speaker 1: against the Model three. Did you see the pricing for this,
Speaker 1: because I was really surprised that I thought the pricing
Speaker 1: for the model for the Ionic six was kind of exy.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not only xy, but it is a very
Speaker 2: odd looking car.
Speaker 3: It looks the back looks like an au Falcon, and
Speaker 3: I know that at the time it really it really
Speaker 3: just set a trend.
Speaker 2: But twenty years on it I think.
Speaker 1: The back looks like that sort of that double lip
Speaker 1: at the back. I think that looks more like an
Speaker 1: old school Porsche. Yeah, okay, it's got old school Porsche vibes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the front just looks completely weird. It's almost like
Speaker 1: they try.
Speaker 3: Know if Marty can hear this, but you guys have
Speaker 3: SPECSA is in New South Wales, right.
Speaker 1: Go look at Okay, Okay, Mary, you know what Maria.
Speaker 1: Maria produced can be the adjudicator, the adjudicator. If you
Speaker 1: look at the back, look at the back of the
Speaker 1: Ionic six. I don't think we're looking at the same car. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about me and yeah, okay, now look at
Speaker 1: trying try and get a rear a front like a rear.
Speaker 2: Which does that look like?
Speaker 3: Don't you think, Mary, Gordy when he comes into the office,
Speaker 3: is he smoking anything that looks to be illegal substance?
Speaker 5: Okay, look, I was there, I talk I checked it
Speaker 5: out over the weekend and I'm telling you now give
Speaker 5: me one sec the build the assembly, No, the assembly.
Speaker 1: Just look at the back of it. I forget about
Speaker 1: the lives. Look at the spoiler on the back and
Speaker 1: how fat it is at the bottom. What do you
Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you want to mail? Paul?
Speaker 1: This determines if you get another slice of pizza, So
Speaker 1: think carefully. Okay, it's still deciding.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, so I was good.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, that's the beauty of design, isn't it, Pavlis.
Speaker 1: It's subjective. I see a Porsche, you see an au Falcon.
Speaker 1: Anyway says a lot about our personality it is.
Speaker 2: It is expensive.
Speaker 3: I'm just having a little sticky by seventy four grand
Speaker 3: for the base and then eighty eight for the top
Speaker 3: spec peak.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I find's weird too? The base
Speaker 1: is the one that will get you the furthest Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't understand that, Like they add all this
Speaker 3: extra weight for the dual motor set up, but then
Speaker 3: it kills you, It kills your range.
Speaker 1: The middle I don't have it in front of me,
Speaker 1: but I from memory, I think the middle spec was
Speaker 1: the one that was somewhat a similar price to the
Speaker 1: three around about seven around about eighty something, but that
Speaker 1: was including on roads. Once you get a Tesla on road,
Speaker 1: it's similar sort of price, similar distance as well, similar range.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I'll hand.
Speaker 3: Yon day that their range is typically pretty on point.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be driving one soon, so we'll see
Speaker 3: what it's like. But I just looking at the side
Speaker 3: profile at the moment, the proportions look like there won't
Speaker 3: be much headroom in the second row.
Speaker 2: The boot's probably not going to be great. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I just.
Speaker 3: Wonder why they do this type of thing instead of
Speaker 3: just going down the path of building SUVs, because that's
Speaker 3: what everyone is buying at the moment.
Speaker 2: They go for this super niche product. It just makes
Speaker 2: no sense to me. That's my rant.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to Paul's Ted talk everybody. I'm
Speaker 1: the same. That rear quarter window kind of looks like
Speaker 1: bendy and pointy and it just makes me feel funny
Speaker 1: and the tummy.
Speaker 2: Um, it's that pizza that you're gorging on at the moment.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Subway foot long that I enjoyed while charging.
Speaker 2: MAV beautiful, beautiful segue.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm taking the rest of the show off.
Speaker 1: You'd be happy about that, Daniel, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3: So yeah, fast food giants. Subway is building an ev
Speaker 3: charging network.
Speaker 1: Yeah well, actually it's called the charging oasis.
Speaker 2: Charging.
Speaker 3: I'm not ever going to a charging oasis, no matter
Speaker 3: how good it.
Speaker 1: Is food involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. A big old foot long meatball.
Speaker 3: It is actually a really good idea, and I've seen
Speaker 3: this in the UK before at some of those services
Speaker 3: that are off the road where they'll be all based
Speaker 3: around these food outlets, and it's actually a really good
Speaker 3: idea because it means that you've got a place to
Speaker 3: go to eat that you can charge your car at.
Speaker 3: Typically a subway meal is like a twenty minute sort
Speaker 3: of exercise.
Speaker 2: Talk to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen you have to show restraint before when
Speaker 3: just necking a hole.
Speaker 1: I can usually just lay it down on the table
Speaker 1: and in through my nose, just like a plate of
Speaker 1: k Marko.
Speaker 2: Gay. I think this is I think.
Speaker 3: This is the way to go because it really sort
Speaker 3: of builds on that ethoss of you get your food
Speaker 3: fast to charge your car fast away you go. So
Speaker 3: because at the moment, the whole business model of a
Speaker 3: servo doesn't really work because a servo is a place
Speaker 3: you're in and out really quickly. Sticking a few charges
Speaker 3: on the side there doesn't make sense because you haven't
Speaker 3: got thirty minutes worth of stuff to do at a servo, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I think that this concept is really going to
Speaker 3: take off, and we're going to have to see.
Speaker 2: A lot of servos diversifying.
Speaker 3: Their business models to bring in a lot of these
Speaker 3: fast food outlets to really make it worthwhile the trip.
Speaker 1: You know what they could add there too, would be
Speaker 1: a car wash. Imagine if like you could buger off
Speaker 1: for a couple of hours, have food, cars charged, cars washed?
Speaker 3: Can we go to wash your car? Let's charging? Oh water, electricity?
Speaker 1: Don't I always thought it was normal. Mo'm always used
Speaker 1: to chuck a toaster. And when I was in the bath,
Speaker 1: she was crying, but she did mumble a few inaudible things,
Speaker 1: something about my dad. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Should we talk a car review?
Speaker 1: We should talk a car review.
Speaker 3: Ye's let's go with something affordable. You know, I think
Speaker 3: we always we always talk about expensive stuff, and I
Speaker 3: think a lot of the complaints we get that we're
Speaker 3: not really just covering affordable stuff.
Speaker 1: So every day sort of the everyday man car. I agree,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: So what have you got?
Speaker 1: I've got a Porsche GT three RS, right, the Porsche
Speaker 1: GT three RS. Listen. Before we do this, I just
Speaker 1: want to quickly shout out to our good friends and
Speaker 1: we're going to put their handle on this screen. To
Speaker 1: Sydney Luxury Higher. They do basically exotic car high rentals,
Speaker 1: so stuff like Lambeau's, Bentley's, Ferrari's Porsche GT three RS.
Speaker 1: And you get to drive this too, by the way,
Speaker 1: so this is something you can actually properly drive around
Speaker 1: all day. You know, you can drive to your formal
Speaker 1: You can drive past your ex girl friend's house and
Speaker 1: pretend you're successful. You can you can drive to Pavlai's
Speaker 1: house and throw some throw some what's up?
Speaker 2: Did you do that in the stonic to look at me? No?
Speaker 1: Actually, do you know what?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: Do a bit of a test with a stonic outside's
Speaker 1: girlfriend's house. I just wanted to test how long the
Speaker 1: horn would last. Anyway, My point is, yeah, check him out.
Speaker 1: Handles on the screen we'll put I don't know a
Speaker 1: link in the description of this podcast, but good people,
Speaker 1: thank you for lending us the car. We really enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: probably a bit too much. This car nearly killed me
Speaker 1: and our producer. I feel partly responsible for that. This
Speaker 1: is a second hand car. Technically it's not a press car,
Speaker 1: so it's you know, it's a twenty what was it
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen? Obviously not the new one, but I thought
Speaker 1: car nearly killed me and our producer. I feel partly
Speaker 1: responsible for that. This is a secondhand car. Technically it's
Speaker 1: not a press car, so it's you know, it's a
Speaker 1: twenty what was it twenty eighteen? Obviously not the new one,
Speaker 1: but I thought I thought we would do this because
Speaker 1: just to give a bit of an insight into what
Speaker 1: it's like to own a supercar like this, I mean,
Speaker 1: a five hundred thousand dollar car. And if you look at,
Speaker 1: say roughly the newer one, it's it's quite funny how
Speaker 1: how little the difference is on paper in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, like they just kind of tweak it, tweak
Speaker 1: stuff just to make the figures look a little bit
Speaker 1: better on paper. But yeah, look roughly around about five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars four liter flat six, three hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty seven killer, what's four sixty meters of talk This
Speaker 1: is like zero to one hundred and three point three seconds.
Speaker 1: But the funny part is the newer one is three
Speaker 1: point two.
Speaker 2: But that's the problem.
Speaker 3: They can only extract so much out of a naturally
Speaker 3: aspirated engine. And you know they always too, whenever a
Speaker 3: new one of these roles around, they always talk about
Speaker 3: what's going on beneath the skin, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's always about the mechanical changes underneath that get
Speaker 3: you just that tiny bit more you know, tiny bit
Speaker 3: more acceleration, tiny bit more track handling. It really is
Speaker 3: all about just that minute difference between the previous one
Speaker 3: and the new one.
Speaker 1: It's such a but it's funny because everything is a
Speaker 1: lot more I'm trying to find the word. It's almost
Speaker 1: like a lot more concentrated. I think when you jump
Speaker 1: in a car like this, you instantly appreciate everything that
Speaker 1: goes into this, from the engineering to the absolute detail.
Speaker 1: I mean, you pay five hundred thousand dollars for this
Speaker 1: is a spec This really is a special car. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why people turn their heads as opposed to,
Speaker 1: you know, an everyday consumable sports car. Whether was that
Speaker 1: Toyota you had? What was that? What did you drive? Again?
Speaker 1: Was this a Supra? All I remember is you? I
Speaker 1: remember you had this sports car one point and I
Speaker 1: just remember thinking, may as well just get a Suzuki
Speaker 1: du t I.
Speaker 2: Rukeystomic.
Speaker 1: Look the looks of this insane. It's an absolute aggressive beast.
Speaker 1: It's a hooligan of a car just to look at,
Speaker 1: and it's such a head turner. Ours was the bright
Speaker 1: orange one massive wing on the back then galore, just
Speaker 1: an angry, just mean looking beast of a car. Like
Speaker 1: it really had stance, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like they are an incredible looking thing.
Speaker 3: And then you know, you look at the next generation
Speaker 3: of GT three RS and the GT two like they're
Speaker 3: now at the point where it's all about error and
Speaker 3: extracting every little bit you can out of it. And
Speaker 3: the irony is you see most of these cars just
Speaker 3: driving around the street, you know, with people like you
Speaker 3: behind the wheel, and as a result of that, they
Speaker 3: never actually at the track where you know they are
Speaker 3: likely to experience, you know, every little bit that they
Speaker 3: can out of these things.
Speaker 2: They really are quite an incredible machine.
Speaker 1: I feel like the new ones. Isn't it funny Like
Speaker 1: when we were kids and we had remote controlled cars
Speaker 1: and you just look at it and go, wow, that
Speaker 1: thing's wild. It's like now they've built those, it's just
Speaker 1: like the look of them just looks like something like
Speaker 1: a fucking Lego toy.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, yeah, bloody unreal. And the cool thing as
Speaker 3: well is they're actually kind of practical. If you drive
Speaker 3: a Lamber or something like that, they're very hard to
Speaker 3: park and just not very practical, whereas with a nine
Speaker 3: to eleven you can get a front lifter. They've got
Speaker 3: the ability to get cameras and all this sort of
Speaker 3: stuff that actually makes it drivable and usable.
Speaker 2: And not all that scary, which I think is a
Speaker 2: big bonus.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say that it's got like
Speaker 1: the electronically raised axle up the front, so if you're
Speaker 1: going over a speed hump or the driveway for instance,
Speaker 1: at this radio state, at this podcast studio, Wow, we
Speaker 1: needed that. But yeah, there are there are all sorts
Speaker 1: of things. I think practicality, it is very fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty supposed to be a track car that you can daily.
Speaker 1: Would I daily this car? Would you daily this car?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Some people do, and I can understand
Speaker 2: the appeal, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things that you'd have to be
Speaker 3: very brave and very happy to be comfortable with it
Speaker 3: being damaged potentially as a daily It.
Speaker 1: Just genuinely feels seventy percent track car. Yeap, it really does.
Speaker 1: You do sit in a car like this and you
Speaker 1: drive it, and you give it everything, and you explore
Speaker 1: everything about it from you know, the chassis, and you
Speaker 1: pull limits on it, and you just you really sort
Speaker 1: of try to get to know this as much as
Speaker 1: legally possible. And man, I think for the first time
Speaker 1: in a long time, I really sat there, and I
Speaker 1: really appreciated the refinement that goes into this and the
Speaker 1: price tag it deserves. The engineering and it's almost in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways easy to drive one of these
Speaker 1: cars fast than it is. I don't know, a Supra,
Speaker 1: you're a bitch. It just it looks it just yah,
Speaker 1: it just feels excellent. It's the sort of car that
Speaker 1: you sit in and you go, I'm not ready for this,
Speaker 1: but we're doing this, and it's go. It's just a
Speaker 1: it's just such a beautiful car. I mean, I've always
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a massive Porsche fanboy, but when you
Speaker 1: sit in a machine like this that's just so well
Speaker 1: engineered in every single way.
Speaker 2: That's that's probably what it is the most.
Speaker 3: It just feels really well engineered and yeah, just really
Speaker 3: nicely put together. Yeah, the new GT three RS has
Speaker 3: this enormous wing like it is just the most stupid
Speaker 3: looking thing, and I just love every bit of it.
Speaker 2: I just think that's cool.
Speaker 1: If you pair it down, if you water it down,
Speaker 1: even the whole nine nine two line like it, the
Speaker 1: whole thing just looks stoic, like it just has a
Speaker 1: beautiful presence. It's that it's that classic gentlemanly Porsche Vibe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly like it's yeah, I don't know, you can.
Speaker 3: It's it's a car that should age poorly but doesn't.
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't change all that much in terms of
Speaker 3: its design, but it is still a really appealing looking car.
Speaker 3: But but you know, really, just it is so much
Speaker 3: fun to drive.
Speaker 1: Definitely, the pros on this is everything. CON's more of
Speaker 1: a track car. It's just it's violent. It'll, you know,
Speaker 1: throw you around, it'll make you feel great. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a not a I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just could not daily this car, poor Marty. We
Speaker 1: took it for a bit of a spin, and Marty
Speaker 1: saw the face of God.
Speaker 3: Legally legally is that the nickname for your okay, No,
Speaker 3: it was actually a bit.
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about my penis? Yeah, I call it.
Speaker 1: I call that stomach. Really represents my personality. Zippy and economical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, undesirable, it doesn't take too much on fuel.
Speaker 1: Whatever that means. Stop laughing.
Speaker 3: I just thought i'd read through a little bit of
Speaker 3: feedback that we got a couple of ratings that you
Speaker 3: guys very generously left for us, so we can see
Speaker 3: that people really enjoyed having.
Speaker 2: Trevor on the show, which is great, Which is really good?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: What? I so that I read out a couple of
Speaker 2: these couple of.
Speaker 3: These ones great podcast from Alan denit extremely entertaining podcasts.
Speaker 2: Thank you Alan for dropping that. And hey, if you
Speaker 2: are listening, we.
Speaker 3: Would really appreciate it if you could leave us a
Speaker 3: five star rating on whichever platform you're listening to. This
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Speaker 3: comment there as well, if you want to. But this
Speaker 3: one really peaqued my interest. It was from Dave mel
Speaker 3: but forty six. I don't know where Dave is from
Speaker 3: or how old he would be, but.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's probably born in nineteen forty six.
Speaker 2: Oh what makes you think that?
Speaker 3: And where would he be from? Maybe Sydney or something
Speaker 3: like that. But anyway, so Dave Melo wrote morons. That's
Speaker 3: both of us good. At least he's being inclusive, complete
Speaker 3: moronic podcast, full stop Newline. It's a shame to see
Speaker 3: Paul has lowered himself to work with the other idiot
Speaker 3: full stop.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: I do love that he actually listened to an episode
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, what was what was he expecting
Speaker 3: this was going to be It's literally marked as explicit
Speaker 3: on every platform that it's on. So thanks for tuning in, Dave,
Speaker 3: and sorry that you're not funny. Oh, actually you don't
Speaker 3: find things funny, so maybe I don't know you care
Speaker 3: to comment?
Speaker 1: Dave's an interesting one because Dave, I can't I can't
Speaker 1: pay Dave out. Like Paul Bastard, sitting there with a
Speaker 1: bit of dribble on his deck, he doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: to go home to his city. Chucks on the ab
Speaker 1: say a little bit of.
Speaker 2: UK Murder mysteries.
Speaker 1: That's what I'll watch, and when that's over he'll hop
Speaker 1: into bed.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I just have a feeling this guy looks
Speaker 1: a lot like Trevor anyway.
Speaker 2: Anyhow.
Speaker 1: Look, hey, I don't mind. I don't read you know me,
Speaker 1: I don't read the comments. It's water off for ducks
Speaker 1: back with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Care We do actually have quickly, we did get and look,
Speaker 1: I apologize. We did get a stack of emails, a
Speaker 1: stack of questions to the guy who was complaining about
Speaker 1: his daughter's car getting fixed and parts. We've actually received
Speaker 1: about three or four emails from people who have bought
Speaker 1: brand new cars from different companies, generally Chinese companies who
Speaker 1: have had problems with their cars and simply can't get parts.
Speaker 1: Everything's under warranty and they've they've had to wait six
Speaker 1: months plus, which I believe it or not. I am
Speaker 1: actually doing some homework on that one. I've spoken to
Speaker 1: some legal experts. I've even spoken to this that's our
Speaker 1: legal expert, which is Toadfish from Neighbors.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I actually have been looking into that, and honestly, there
Speaker 1: is some something I want to bring up on that
Speaker 1: on the next episode. So please sit tight. You won't
Speaker 1: have your parts by then anyway, so don't stress.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well yeah, if you're listening to these, please
Speaker 3: do leave us rating and if you do want to
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Speaker 1: Just quickly, quick question from the DMS. Hey, guys love
Speaker 1: the podcast. We're in the market for a new car
Speaker 1: looking at leasing. Do you think prices have used ice
Speaker 1: cars will drop with the uptake of evs in the
Speaker 1: next few years. Also, what would be your recommendations for
Speaker 1: a new hybrid slash FEV under sixty k ish keep
Speaker 1: it up, Ball as you go first price wise, maybe
Speaker 1: the Artlander. I did have this hybrid, but I think
Speaker 1: that's a little bit over sixty k that was fairly smooth.
Speaker 1: It just you know, it's very similar to the normal
Speaker 1: Santa Fe it's do you know what. I found it
Speaker 1: kind of annoying because it's quite smooth up to about
Speaker 1: sixty k's and then it's like this tiny little engine
Speaker 1: fucking kicks in it. It's the loudest thing ever. So
Speaker 1: I found that annoying, but the fit out is excellent.
Speaker 1: I actually would say the X Trail.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh, the E Force one, yeah, I hate that name,
Speaker 3: but yeah, the Hybrid one, yeah it's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay cool. So for me, it's going to be
Speaker 2: slightly different.
Speaker 3: So the reason I'm going with a different approach is
Speaker 3: because of the word leasing. At the moment, the government
Speaker 3: has incentives in place. If you are doing a novated
Speaker 3: lease and you're buying an electric vehicle and I believe
Speaker 3: a plugging hybrid vehicle, under the luxury car tax threshold,
Speaker 3: you can actually claim one hundred percent FBT exemption. That
Speaker 3: means you're going to be paying less tax to the government.
Speaker 3: You're going to be paying less taxable income, you'll have
Speaker 3: less taxable income as well.
Speaker 2: So having that said, I would have.
Speaker 3: A look at Oh my god, it's just shoving the
Speaker 3: biggest piece of pizza in his mouth.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I would have a look at.
Speaker 1: There you saying something important, a.
Speaker 3: Look at the Outland of plug in hybrid, because that
Speaker 3: meets that brief and it means that you're going to
Speaker 3: save money. Keep in mind, though, if you are emailing
Speaker 3: us from Victoria, that you also have to pay a
Speaker 3: per kilometer tax on plug in hybrids, which is the
Speaker 3: most idiotic thing in the world, because it's impossible to
Speaker 3: actually to split the difference between when you're driving on
Speaker 3: electric and when you're driving on internal combustion. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I would have a look at Outlander plug in hybrid
Speaker 3: if you are doing at least it's a big enough car,
Speaker 3: really good to drive, and I think it'll take all
Speaker 3: those boxes.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for out of time, Jesus Christ. That was
Speaker 1: very comprehensive. Thank you, Pavel. Yeah, I'm glad I answered
Speaker 1: it with three different cars and then you just turned
Speaker 1: to comment into a conversation.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Ah, yes, contacted the Driver show dot com dot
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to jazz this little area up. Normally
Speaker 3: I'm in the studio with you, but today I'm obviously working.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you need you need a quick little trip
Speaker 1: down to Typo and get some fairy lights. He comes back.
Speaker 1: He's got some like some sort of ceramic owl statue
Speaker 1: and a live laugh love Figer poster. Oh well, thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us, everybody,