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Speaker 1: How was your week? My week started off as a

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Speaker 1: Kia Eving six GT, but ended with a Stonic.

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Speaker 2: A Stoni. If you don't want to be racist.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Paul Marrack Badle, thank you Badle. Stonnik amrack

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Speaker 1: ah man man there. Let's just say there was a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they realized that you had turned up and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we thought it was going to be forever long.

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Speaker 1: We thought this was going to be Pavley give him

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Speaker 1: a stonie anyway, wheeled out with a horse.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was just literally a man with a fishing rod

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Speaker 2: At the end. You know what, though, I actually quite

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Speaker 2: like the Stonic.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about it?

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Speaker 3: It's it's reasonable, it's nice, there's there's nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, mmm, what was wrong with it?

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Speaker 1: It serves its purpose. When you think you're getting in

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Speaker 1: one hundred and three point two seconds or whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: and you end up with the Stonitch, you get your

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Speaker 1: grumpy pants on. But look, this car serves a purpose.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. It's it's great. If you're

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Speaker 1: eighty six years old and need to go down and

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Speaker 1: complain about why your meals and on wheels are late.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know it's Look, I had the GT

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Speaker 1: line as well. There's literally when you put your foot

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Speaker 1: There's literally there's nothing, there's no go.

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Speaker 2: You are very hard to please. No, I'm not. Daniel

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Speaker 1: Daniel was made in the back of that car. What

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Speaker 1: would his parents have listened to? Oh god, back in

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Speaker 1: the day, it would have been Viralin check on from

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Speaker 1: Viralin down. I think it's game. We create little.

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Speaker 4: Me to care.

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Speaker 2: Calllu.

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Speaker 1: That's just how Daniel was created.

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Speaker 2: So stupid.

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Speaker 1: No wonder the internet hates me.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we'll get onto that a little later.

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Speaker 1: How is your week?

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Speaker 3: It's very busy, so I know we're going to be

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Speaker 3: talking more about this, I think next episode, but we're

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Speaker 3: going through our use of the year at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Australia's most comprehensive ute test. Hopefully we don't get sued

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Speaker 3: for that claim even though it's true.

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Speaker 2: But yes, Australia's most.

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Speaker 3: Comprehensive ute test and we've been starting to roll out

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Speaker 3: all of the content now, so in the next episode

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Speaker 3: we'll run through who the winner is and why we've

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Speaker 3: chosen the winner, and why it had nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with how much money they spent.

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Speaker 1: With us, says the man. Drive What do you what

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Speaker 1: are you driving around at the moment? They're Pavlai.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually just getting around in my raptor because

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Speaker 3: I don't know some of the other cars we've had

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Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I wonder if that's a little

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Speaker 3: Oh, perhaps it is a little suckle on the nectar

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Speaker 3: of the year of the year.

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Speaker 1: Wow, By the way, how long have you been enrolled

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Speaker 1: in tafe? Just looking in the background, if you're where

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Speaker 1: How sheet metal going? How are you going with that?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: Actually, so this is actually part of the busyness of

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Speaker 3: my week.

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Speaker 2: We've been moving office, so I'm in our new office

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Speaker 3: So it's quite an expanse clearly sponsored by IKEA.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are a few billies behind me, you know.

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Speaker 2: The Tower of Billy. No, what was that?

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Speaker 3: It's a type of ikea bookshelf. Isn't it the best

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Speaker 3: selling bookshelf ever?

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Speaker 2: Oh? The Billy, Yeah, the Billy.

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Speaker 1: God our producer knows what that was, mainly because he

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Speaker 2: Billy.

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Speaker 1: He's just showing me Billy. In my day, Billy was

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did want to say, do you know I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that I'm not I've never really been a BMW guy.

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Speaker 1: And the XM was wildly impressive to me. Right, I

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Speaker 1: So I've been thinking a lot about the whole range

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Speaker 1: Come on, that car looked pretty sick. So everything start

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Speaker 1: to look different. And then I just saw the BMW

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Speaker 2: All on the seven series.

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it. I

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Speaker 1: just such a ballsy move and I'm just I'm really

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Speaker 1: into it. And guess what, I think, I'm becoming a

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Speaker 3: Oh, Janney Red comes straight out of the closet, just

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Speaker 3: breaking through that door. Yeah, so I my TikTok fame

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Speaker 3: came courtesy of the BMW seven series. I did a

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Speaker 3: got something like seven million viewerships. And basically, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: it's like a thirty four inch display that folds down

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Speaker 3: from the roof. And I'm interested from anyone that's listening

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. This whole car seems to be

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Speaker 1: set up for when I'm doing dealings with Beijing and

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Speaker 1: I'm on my way to a meeting and maybe I

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Speaker 1: want to look at myself on our new YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh that's disturbing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what else is disturbing?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: Whacking off to yourself and Bloody the Car Expert YouTube

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Speaker 1: in the back head Tesla, You're like, Tesla, engage.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe and hit the bell icon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, plug train new YouTube channel. Thanks for thanks for

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Speaker 1: being so excited about that little endeavor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well first I've heard of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'd surprise you on that one. I'm putting

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about right anyway?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, BMW, I think I don't know what, like,

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, And I'll tell you why. I think it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I think that was saighties. Bens has dropped the ball.

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Speaker 2: With the S class.

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Speaker 3: The S Class just looks like a bigger, more expensive

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Speaker 3: when you sit inside it, they have it is just

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Speaker 3: an array of luxury. They've really gone to town on

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Speaker 3: you're just not getting that feeling and that the seventh

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Speaker 1: And the crystal sides as well, the crystal door lips,

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Speaker 3: The doors as well. Like this is what the seventh

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Speaker 3: just the thing that blew you away. James Bond drove

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Speaker 2: It is cool stuff and they're going back to that again,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I agree with everything you've said

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Speaker 2: Ouda's the same because the AA is the same sort

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Speaker 3: the seven Series. We're not going to be in a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's completely evolved in the way in a beautiful

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Speaker 3: What will surprise you is the size of it, because

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Speaker 2: It is absolutely enormous.

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Speaker 1: I'm a BMW gar whoa, oh hey, this is exciting.

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this for a long time and

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Speaker 1: Now is the Ford F one fifty. Not only is

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Speaker 1: We know it's what Q three they'll start arriving.

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Speaker 3: Australia Q three, And it's interesting they're offering two different versions.

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Speaker 3: They're doing a short wheel base and a long wheelbase,

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Speaker 2: It really isn't that expensive.

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Speaker 3: So they will all be powered by three point five

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Speaker 3: the interior of the XLT, it kind of looks pretty cheap. O.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind it, and I don't think it looks

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Speaker 1: sort of that sort of fit out is for people's

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Speaker 2: Down your Daniel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think that the screen's tiny.

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Speaker 2: It kind of looks a bit spartan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like we're paying through the roof

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Speaker 3: Look, the Polestar Too really is a bit of a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally like a Model three, but less practical

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Speaker 1: old school Porsche. Yeah, okay, it's got old school Porsche vibes. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: but the front just looks completely weird. It's almost like

445
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Speaker 1: they try.

446
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Speaker 3: Know if Marty can hear this, but you guys have

447
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Speaker 3: SPECSA is in New South Wales, right.

448
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Speaker 1: Go look at Okay, Okay, Mary, you know what Maria.

449
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: Maria produced can be the adjudicator, the adjudicator. If you

450
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 1: look at the back, look at the back of the

451
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Ionic six. I don't think we're looking at the same car. Seriously,

452
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about me and yeah, okay, now look at

453
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Speaker 1: trying try and get a rear a front like a rear.

454
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Speaker 2: Which does that look like?

455
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Speaker 3: Don't you think, Mary, Gordy when he comes into the office,

456
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Speaker 3: is he smoking anything that looks to be illegal substance?

457
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Speaker 5: Okay, look, I was there, I talk I checked it

458
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Speaker 5: out over the weekend and I'm telling you now give

459
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Speaker 5: me one sec the build the assembly, No, the assembly.

460
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Speaker 1: Just look at the back of it. I forget about

461
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Speaker 1: the lives. Look at the spoiler on the back and

462
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: how fat it is at the bottom. What do you

463
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Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you want to mail? Paul?

464
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: This determines if you get another slice of pizza, So

465
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Speaker 1: think carefully. Okay, it's still deciding.

466
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Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, so I was good.

467
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Speaker 1: Well anyway, that's the beauty of design, isn't it, Pavlis.

468
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: It's subjective. I see a Porsche, you see an au Falcon.

469
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: Anyway says a lot about our personality it is.

470
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Speaker 2: It is expensive.

471
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Speaker 3: I'm just having a little sticky by seventy four grand

472
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: for the base and then eighty eight for the top

473
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Speaker 3: spec peak.

474
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I find's weird too? The base

475
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: is the one that will get you the furthest Yeah.

476
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Speaker 3: And I don't understand that, Like they add all this

477
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: extra weight for the dual motor set up, but then

478
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: it kills you, It kills your range.

479
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Speaker 1: The middle I don't have it in front of me,

480
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Speaker 1: but I from memory, I think the middle spec was

481
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Speaker 1: the one that was somewhat a similar price to the

482
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: three around about seven around about eighty something, but that

483
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: was including on roads. Once you get a Tesla on road,

484
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: it's similar sort of price, similar distance as well, similar range.

485
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I'll hand.

486
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Speaker 3: Yon day that their range is typically pretty on point.

487
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to be driving one soon, so we'll see

488
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: what it's like. But I just looking at the side

489
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: profile at the moment, the proportions look like there won't

490
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Speaker 3: be much headroom in the second row.

491
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Speaker 2: The boot's probably not going to be great. So yeah, yeah,

492
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Speaker 2: I just I just.

493
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Speaker 3: Wonder why they do this type of thing instead of

494
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Speaker 3: just going down the path of building SUVs, because that's

495
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Speaker 3: what everyone is buying at the moment.

496
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: They go for this super niche product. It just makes

497
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Speaker 2: no sense to me. That's my rant.

498
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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to Paul's Ted talk everybody. I'm

499
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Speaker 1: the same. That rear quarter window kind of looks like

500
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Speaker 1: bendy and pointy and it just makes me feel funny

501
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Speaker 1: and the tummy.

502
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Speaker 2: Um, it's that pizza that you're gorging on at the moment.

503
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Subway foot long that I enjoyed while charging.

504
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Speaker 2: MAV beautiful, beautiful segue.

505
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm taking the rest of the show off.

506
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: You'd be happy about that, Daniel, go fuck yourself.

507
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, fast food giants. Subway is building an ev

508
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: charging network.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah well, actually it's called the charging oasis.

510
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Speaker 2: Charging.

511
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Speaker 3: I'm not ever going to a charging oasis, no matter

512
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Speaker 3: how good it.

513
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Speaker 1: Is food involved.

514
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. A big old foot long meatball.

515
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Speaker 3: It is actually a really good idea, and I've seen

516
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 3: this in the UK before at some of those services

517
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Speaker 3: that are off the road where they'll be all based

518
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: around these food outlets, and it's actually a really good

519
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 3: idea because it means that you've got a place to

520
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Speaker 3: go to eat that you can charge your car at.

521
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: Typically a subway meal is like a twenty minute sort

522
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Speaker 3: of exercise.

523
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Speaker 2: Talk to.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen you have to show restraint before when

525
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: just necking a hole.

526
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Speaker 1: I can usually just lay it down on the table

527
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Speaker 1: and in through my nose, just like a plate of

528
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Speaker 1: k Marko.

529
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Speaker 2: Gay. I think this is I think.

530
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Speaker 3: This is the way to go because it really sort

531
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: of builds on that ethoss of you get your food

532
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: fast to charge your car fast away you go. So

533
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: because at the moment, the whole business model of a

534
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: servo doesn't really work because a servo is a place

535
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: you're in and out really quickly. Sticking a few charges

536
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: on the side there doesn't make sense because you haven't

537
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: got thirty minutes worth of stuff to do at a servo, you.

538
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

539
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: So I think that this concept is really going to

540
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Speaker 3: take off, and we're going to have to see.

541
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Speaker 2: A lot of servos diversifying.

542
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Speaker 3: Their business models to bring in a lot of these

543
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Speaker 3: fast food outlets to really make it worthwhile the trip.

544
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Speaker 1: You know what they could add there too, would be

545
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Speaker 1: a car wash. Imagine if like you could buger off

546
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Speaker 1: for a couple of hours, have food, cars charged, cars washed?

547
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: Can we go to wash your car? Let's charging? Oh water, electricity?

548
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Speaker 1: Don't I always thought it was normal. Mo'm always used

549
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: to chuck a toaster. And when I was in the bath,

550
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: she was crying, but she did mumble a few inaudible things,

551
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: something about my dad. I can't remember.

552
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: Should we talk a car review?

553
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: We should talk a car review.

554
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: Ye's let's go with something affordable. You know, I think

555
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: we always we always talk about expensive stuff, and I

556
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: think a lot of the complaints we get that we're

557
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: not really just covering affordable stuff.

558
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: So every day sort of the everyday man car. I agree,

559
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Speaker 1: that's it.

560
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: So what have you got?

561
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I've got a Porsche GT three RS, right, the Porsche

562
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: GT three RS. Listen. Before we do this, I just

563
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: want to quickly shout out to our good friends and

564
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Speaker 1: we're going to put their handle on this screen. To

565
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: Sydney Luxury Higher. They do basically exotic car high rentals,

566
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: so stuff like Lambeau's, Bentley's, Ferrari's Porsche GT three RS.

567
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: And you get to drive this too, by the way,

568
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: so this is something you can actually properly drive around

569
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Speaker 1: all day. You know, you can drive to your formal

570
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: You can drive past your ex girl friend's house and

571
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: pretend you're successful. You can you can drive to Pavlai's

572
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: house and throw some throw some what's up?

573
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: Did you do that in the stonic to look at me? No?

574
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Actually, do you know what?

575
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Speaker 2: I did?

576
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Do a bit of a test with a stonic outside's

577
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: girlfriend's house. I just wanted to test how long the

578
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: horn would last. Anyway, My point is, yeah, check him out.

579
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Speaker 1: Handles on the screen we'll put I don't know a

580
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: link in the description of this podcast, but good people,

581
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: thank you for lending us the car. We really enjoyed it,

582
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: probably a bit too much. This car nearly killed me

583
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: and our producer. I feel partly responsible for that. This

584
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: is a second hand car. Technically it's not a press car,

585
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: so it's you know, it's a twenty what was it

586
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen? Obviously not the new one, but I thought

587
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: car nearly killed me and our producer. I feel partly

588
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: responsible for that. This is a secondhand car. Technically it's

589
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: not a press car, so it's you know, it's a

590
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: twenty what was it twenty eighteen? Obviously not the new one,

591
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: but I thought I thought we would do this because

592
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: just to give a bit of an insight into what

593
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: it's like to own a supercar like this, I mean,

594
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: a five hundred thousand dollar car. And if you look at,

595
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: say roughly the newer one, it's it's quite funny how

596
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: how little the difference is on paper in a lot

597
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: of ways, like they just kind of tweak it, tweak

598
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: stuff just to make the figures look a little bit

599
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: better on paper. But yeah, look roughly around about five

600
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars four liter flat six, three hundred and

601
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: sixty seven killer, what's four sixty meters of talk This

602
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: is like zero to one hundred and three point three seconds.

603
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: But the funny part is the newer one is three

604
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Speaker 1: point two.

605
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: But that's the problem.

606
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: They can only extract so much out of a naturally

607
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: aspirated engine. And you know they always too, whenever a

608
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: new one of these roles around, they always talk about

609
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: what's going on beneath the skin, you know what I mean.

610
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: So it's always about the mechanical changes underneath that get

611
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 3: you just that tiny bit more you know, tiny bit

612
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: more acceleration, tiny bit more track handling. It really is

613
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: all about just that minute difference between the previous one

614
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: and the new one.

615
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: It's such a but it's funny because everything is a

616
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: lot more I'm trying to find the word. It's almost

617
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: like a lot more concentrated. I think when you jump

618
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: in a car like this, you instantly appreciate everything that

619
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Speaker 1: goes into this, from the engineering to the absolute detail.

620
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you pay five hundred thousand dollars for this

621
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: is a spec This really is a special car. There's

622
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: a reason why people turn their heads as opposed to,

623
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Speaker 1: you know, an everyday consumable sports car. Whether was that

624
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Toyota you had? What was that? What did you drive? Again?

625
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Was this a Supra? All I remember is you? I

626
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: remember you had this sports car one point and I

627
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: just remember thinking, may as well just get a Suzuki

628
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Speaker 1: du t I.

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Speaker 2: Rukeystomic.

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Speaker 1: Look the looks of this insane. It's an absolute aggressive beast.

631
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Speaker 1: It's a hooligan of a car just to look at,

632
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: and it's such a head turner. Ours was the bright

633
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: orange one massive wing on the back then galore, just

634
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: an angry, just mean looking beast of a car. Like

635
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: it really had stance, do you know what I mean?

636
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like they are an incredible looking thing.

637
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: And then you know, you look at the next generation

638
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: of GT three RS and the GT two like they're

639
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: now at the point where it's all about error and

640
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: extracting every little bit you can out of it. And

641
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: the irony is you see most of these cars just

642
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: driving around the street, you know, with people like you

643
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: behind the wheel, and as a result of that, they

644
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: never actually at the track where you know they are

645
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: likely to experience, you know, every little bit that they

646
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: can out of these things.

647
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Speaker 2: They really are quite an incredible machine.

648
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I feel like the new ones. Isn't it funny Like

649
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: when we were kids and we had remote controlled cars

650
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: and you just look at it and go, wow, that

651
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: thing's wild. It's like now they've built those, it's just

652
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: like the look of them just looks like something like

653
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: a fucking Lego toy.

654
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: It's crazy, yeah, bloody unreal. And the cool thing as

655
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: well is they're actually kind of practical. If you drive

656
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: a Lamber or something like that, they're very hard to

657
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 3: park and just not very practical, whereas with a nine

658
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: to eleven you can get a front lifter. They've got

659
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: the ability to get cameras and all this sort of

660
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: stuff that actually makes it drivable and usable.

661
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: And not all that scary, which I think is a

662
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Speaker 2: big bonus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say that it's got like

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Speaker 1: the electronically raised axle up the front, so if you're

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Speaker 1: going over a speed hump or the driveway for instance,

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Speaker 1: at this radio state, at this podcast studio, Wow, we

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Speaker 1: needed that. But yeah, there are there are all sorts

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Speaker 1: of things. I think practicality, it is very fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty supposed to be a track car that you can daily.

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Speaker 1: Would I daily this car? Would you daily this car?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Some people do, and I can understand

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Speaker 2: the appeal, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things that you'd have to be

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Speaker 3: very brave and very happy to be comfortable with it

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Speaker 3: being damaged potentially as a daily It.

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Speaker 1: Just genuinely feels seventy percent track car. Yeap, it really does.

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Speaker 1: You do sit in a car like this and you

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Speaker 1: drive it, and you give it everything, and you explore

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Speaker 1: everything about it from you know, the chassis, and you

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Speaker 1: pull limits on it, and you just you really sort

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Speaker 1: of try to get to know this as much as

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Speaker 1: legally possible. And man, I think for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a long time, I really sat there, and I

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Speaker 1: really appreciated the refinement that goes into this and the

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Speaker 1: price tag it deserves. The engineering and it's almost in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways easy to drive one of these

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Speaker 1: cars fast than it is. I don't know, a Supra,

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Speaker 1: you're a bitch. It just it looks it just yah,

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Speaker 1: it just feels excellent. It's the sort of car that

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Speaker 1: you sit in and you go, I'm not ready for this,

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Speaker 1: but we're doing this, and it's go. It's just a

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Speaker 1: it's just such a beautiful car. I mean, I've always

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a massive Porsche fanboy, but when you

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Speaker 1: sit in a machine like this that's just so well

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Speaker 1: engineered in every single way.

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Speaker 2: That's that's probably what it is the most.

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Speaker 3: It just feels really well engineered and yeah, just really

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Speaker 3: nicely put together. Yeah, the new GT three RS has

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Speaker 3: this enormous wing like it is just the most stupid

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Speaker 3: looking thing, and I just love every bit of it.

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Speaker 2: I just think that's cool.

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Speaker 1: If you pair it down, if you water it down,

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Speaker 1: even the whole nine nine two line like it, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing just looks stoic, like it just has a

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Speaker 1: beautiful presence. It's that it's that classic gentlemanly Porsche Vibe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly like it's yeah, I don't know, you can.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a car that should age poorly but doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Like it doesn't change all that much in terms of

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Speaker 3: its design, but it is still a really appealing looking car.

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Speaker 3: But but you know, really, just it is so much

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Speaker 3: fun to drive.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, the pros on this is everything. CON's more of

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Speaker 1: a track car. It's just it's violent. It'll, you know,

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Speaker 1: throw you around, it'll make you feel great. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a not a I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just could not daily this car, poor Marty. We

717
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Speaker 1: took it for a bit of a spin, and Marty

718
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Speaker 1: saw the face of God.

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Speaker 3: Legally legally is that the nickname for your okay, No,

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Speaker 3: it was actually a bit.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about my penis? Yeah, I call it.

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Speaker 1: I call that stomach. Really represents my personality. Zippy and economical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, undesirable, it doesn't take too much on fuel.

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Speaker 1: Whatever that means. Stop laughing.

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Speaker 3: I just thought i'd read through a little bit of

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Speaker 3: feedback that we got a couple of ratings that you

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Speaker 3: guys very generously left for us, so we can see

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Speaker 3: that people really enjoyed having.

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Speaker 2: Trevor on the show, which is great, Which is really good?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: What? I so that I read out a couple of

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Speaker 2: these couple of.

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Speaker 3: These ones great podcast from Alan denit extremely entertaining podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Alan for dropping that. And hey, if you

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Speaker 2: are listening, we.

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Speaker 3: Would really appreciate it if you could leave us a

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Speaker 3: five star rating on whichever platform you're listening to. This

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Speaker 3: tax ten seconds to do and leave us a fun

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Speaker 3: comment there as well, if you want to. But this

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Speaker 3: one really peaqued my interest. It was from Dave mel

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Speaker 3: but forty six. I don't know where Dave is from

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Speaker 3: or how old he would be, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's probably born in nineteen forty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh what makes you think that?

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Speaker 3: And where would he be from? Maybe Sydney or something

746
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Speaker 3: like that. But anyway, so Dave Melo wrote morons. That's

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Speaker 3: both of us good. At least he's being inclusive, complete

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Speaker 3: moronic podcast, full stop Newline. It's a shame to see

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Speaker 3: Paul has lowered himself to work with the other idiot

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Speaker 3: full stop.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I do love that he actually listened to an episode

753
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, what was what was he expecting

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Speaker 3: this was going to be It's literally marked as explicit

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Speaker 3: on every platform that it's on. So thanks for tuning in, Dave,

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00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: and sorry that you're not funny. Oh, actually you don't

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Speaker 3: find things funny, so maybe I don't know you care

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Speaker 3: to comment?

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Speaker 1: Dave's an interesting one because Dave, I can't I can't

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Speaker 1: pay Dave out. Like Paul Bastard, sitting there with a

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Speaker 1: bit of dribble on his deck, he doesn't have anything

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Speaker 1: to go home to his city. Chucks on the ab

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Speaker 1: say a little bit of.

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Speaker 2: UK Murder mysteries.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll watch, and when that's over he'll hop

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Speaker 1: into bed.

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Speaker 2: And I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, I just have a feeling this guy looks

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Speaker 1: a lot like Trevor anyway.

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Speaker 2: Anyhow.

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Speaker 1: Look, hey, I don't mind. I don't read you know me,

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Speaker 1: I don't read the comments. It's water off for ducks

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Speaker 1: back with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Care We do actually have quickly, we did get and look,

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Speaker 1: I apologize. We did get a stack of emails, a

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Speaker 1: stack of questions to the guy who was complaining about

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Speaker 1: his daughter's car getting fixed and parts. We've actually received

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Speaker 1: about three or four emails from people who have bought

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Speaker 1: brand new cars from different companies, generally Chinese companies who

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Speaker 1: have had problems with their cars and simply can't get parts.

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Speaker 1: Everything's under warranty and they've they've had to wait six

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Speaker 1: months plus, which I believe it or not. I am

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Speaker 1: actually doing some homework on that one. I've spoken to

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Speaker 1: some legal experts. I've even spoken to this that's our

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Speaker 1: legal expert, which is Toadfish from Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I actually have been looking into that, and honestly, there

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Speaker 1: is some something I want to bring up on that

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Speaker 1: on the next episode. So please sit tight. You won't

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Speaker 1: have your parts by then anyway, so don't stress.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well yeah, if you're listening to these, please

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Speaker 3: do leave us rating and if you do want to

794
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: get in touch, contact that the Drivers Show dot Com

795
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Speaker 3: that I use the right email address.

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Speaker 1: Just quickly, quick question from the DMS. Hey, guys love

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00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: the podcast. We're in the market for a new car

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00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: looking at leasing. Do you think prices have used ice

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Speaker 1: cars will drop with the uptake of evs in the

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Speaker 1: next few years. Also, what would be your recommendations for

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Speaker 1: a new hybrid slash FEV under sixty k ish keep

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00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: it up, Ball as you go first price wise, maybe

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Speaker 1: the Artlander. I did have this hybrid, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit over sixty k that was fairly smooth.

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Speaker 1: It just you know, it's very similar to the normal

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Speaker 1: Santa Fe it's do you know what. I found it

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Speaker 1: kind of annoying because it's quite smooth up to about

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Speaker 1: sixty k's and then it's like this tiny little engine

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Speaker 1: fucking kicks in it. It's the loudest thing ever. So

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Speaker 1: I found that annoying, but the fit out is excellent.

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Speaker 1: I actually would say the X Trail.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh, the E Force one, yeah, I hate that name,

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00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: but yeah, the Hybrid one, yeah it's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay cool. So for me, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: slightly different.

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Speaker 3: So the reason I'm going with a different approach is

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Speaker 3: because of the word leasing. At the moment, the government

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Speaker 3: has incentives in place. If you are doing a novated

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Speaker 3: lease and you're buying an electric vehicle and I believe

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Speaker 3: a plugging hybrid vehicle, under the luxury car tax threshold,

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Speaker 3: you can actually claim one hundred percent FBT exemption. That

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Speaker 3: means you're going to be paying less tax to the government.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be paying less taxable income, you'll have

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Speaker 3: less taxable income as well.

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Speaker 2: So having that said, I would have.

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Speaker 3: A look at Oh my god, it's just shoving the

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Speaker 3: biggest piece of pizza in his mouth.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I would have a look at.

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Speaker 1: There you saying something important, a.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Outland of plug in hybrid, because that

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Speaker 3: meets that brief and it means that you're going to

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Speaker 3: save money. Keep in mind, though, if you are emailing

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Speaker 3: us from Victoria, that you also have to pay a

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Speaker 3: per kilometer tax on plug in hybrids, which is the

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Speaker 3: most idiotic thing in the world, because it's impossible to

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Speaker 3: actually to split the difference between when you're driving on

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Speaker 3: electric and when you're driving on internal combustion. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would have a look at Outlander plug in hybrid

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Speaker 3: if you are doing at least it's a big enough car,

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Speaker 3: really good to drive, and I think it'll take all

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Speaker 3: those boxes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for out of time, Jesus Christ. That was

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Speaker 1: very comprehensive. Thank you, Pavel. Yeah, I'm glad I answered

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Speaker 1: it with three different cars and then you just turned

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Speaker 1: to comment into a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Ah, yes, contacted the Driver show dot com dot

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Speaker 1: you please, I don't know what do they need to

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Speaker 1: now if you want to see my alcoholic looking face

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Speaker 1: and Paul doing a podcast as he's doing an assignment

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Speaker 1: for TAFE.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to jazz this little area up. Normally

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Speaker 3: I'm in the studio with you, but today I'm obviously working.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you need you need a quick little trip

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Speaker 1: down to Typo and get some fairy lights. He comes back.

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Speaker 1: He's got some like some sort of ceramic owl statue

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Speaker 1: and a live laugh love Figer poster. Oh well, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us, everybody,