1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Now, I've many times said that parenting is the ultimate 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: self development course. This is about us becoming better versions 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: of ourselves. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: and Daddy. 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: This is doctor Justin Colson, the author of six books 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: about raising happy families. And I'm here with my wife Kylie, 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: co host, podcast partner and mum to our six daughters, 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: aged from twenty something. We're not allowed to say how 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: old she is anymore. She's said, no, I'm an adult. 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: You can't tell everybody all the way down to the 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: age of six. Yeah, And as always, every Friday, we 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: have this episode that we loosely call I'll do Better Tomorrow. 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: The idea is we want to understand what we've learned 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: from parenting this week and how we can make it 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: better next week. And you know this is not a 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: parenting thing, but I had a funny experience this week 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: that I just have to share with you because I 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: think this should be my I'd do better tomorrow. I 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: need to do better next week when it comes to 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: putting the bins out. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: Well, I did hear the bin truck drive past, and 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: all of a sudden were dashing out the door. 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: So I forgot to put the two bins out, and 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: the trucks sort of come around the corner, like, oh no, 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: I've grabbed the bins and we've got a long driveway. 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: We live on a battle ax block, right, so what 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: is it like two hundred meters to the end of 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: the driveway or something ridiculous like that. And there's a 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: steep hill and I've got these two bins that are 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: sort of telling you down that yeah, threatening to run 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: me over. I get to the bottom and I realized 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: that one bin has been done, but the other one hasn't. 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: But they do outside of the street first, and they 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: do the other side next, and they were doing the 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: other side, and so I'm like, oh no, So I 39 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: left the bin that I could leave behind, and then 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: I grabbed the other bin, and I was like he's gone, 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Like he was three hundred meters down the road, and 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: so I thought the only thing I can do is 43 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: chase him. So I'm wearing no shoes. The ground is 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: steaming hot because it's been another hot summer's day, and 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: I am just doing this sprint down the middle of 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: the road. Fortunately we live on a fairly quiet street. 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: Sprint down the middle of the road with the bin 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: dragging behind me. There is cycling in the bin, and 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: what a great what a great bin guy. He saw 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: me in the mirror. I made sure I was in 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: the middle of the road with his bin so that 52 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: if he checked his mirrors he'd see me. And he 53 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: actually reversed halfway back. But I'm sprinting down the street. 54 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: That's my I'll do better next week by remembering. It's 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: not even that I needed to remember, because you asked 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: me to do it and I said yes, But I 57 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: got so caught up in things real life. This is 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: this is the Happy Family's real life snapshot of d 59 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: I talk to Justin Goss. I've got blisters on my feet. 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: It was so uncomfortable. But at least we're going to 61 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: be able to fill our bin for the next two 62 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: weeks without it overflying everywhere. Hey, so, what's your I'll 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: do better tomorrow for this week? What parenting moment, pairing, insight, 64 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: a failure, challenge, or otherwise learning moment have you had 65 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: with our children, our munchkins this week? 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: Well, I have talked previously about a A Brown book 67 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: that I have been reading for the last two and 68 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: a bit years. 69 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm getting close. 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: I'm down to the last chapter but Daring Greatly, and 71 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: it has been such an insightful read for me. But 72 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: the other day I read something that just was actually 73 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: a really huge aha moment for me. But what was 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: most insightful about it was it actually highlighted how far 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: I've come as a parent. And so the quote was this, 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: she said, who we are and how we engage with 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: the world are much stronger predictors of how our children 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: will do than what we know about parenting. In terms 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: of teaching our children to dare greatly. In the never 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: enough culture, the question isn't so much are you parenting 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: the right way, as it is are you the adult 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: that you want your child to grow up to be? 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I just love that. I mean, I've talked about a 84 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: lot of times my perhaps not quite so eloquent. 85 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: She's very eloquent in her writing version of. 86 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: That parenting is not about the children, it's about the parents. 87 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: If it was about children, it would be called childrening. 88 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: And I've many times said that parenting is the ultimate 89 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: self development course. This is about us becoming better versions 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: of ourselves. But I love the way that you said that. 91 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: I love the way that she said that. I love 92 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: the way you read that. 93 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: Oh thank you. But what I loved about it was 94 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: as I read that, I was thinking about the times 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: when I'm proudest of my children and you know, thinking 96 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: about who I am and what they're doing that makes 97 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: me just, you know, have those moments where my heart's 98 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: singing and I'm just elated to see them developing. And 99 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 3: when I really was able to sit back and think 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: about that, for me, it's the times where they actually 101 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: do something the way I would have done it, when 102 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: they actually see, you know, that they've got the maturity 103 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: enough to kind of see past, you know, their ten 104 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: year old self, and they actually see a way to 105 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: move forward that would be very similar to us I 106 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: would do, or they actually do it better. And when 107 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: I was thinking about that, it kind of occurred to 108 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: me that I actually am really happy with who I 109 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: am and how I do life. And there was a 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: time where I could have pulled myself to pieces, and 111 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: there are still so many areas in my life where 112 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: I want to be a better person. But if my 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: children turned out like me or you, I would be 114 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: really okay with that. And that was that was really 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: a really empowering moment for me. 116 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really personal thing to share, and I'm 117 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: grateful that you did. I'd be okay if our children 118 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: turned out like you too. I think you're pretty ace. 119 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Me not so much. I'm still a work in progress. 120 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: But I think we're all a work in progress. But 121 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: that's what that's the whole point of this. I think 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: we can sit there and we can tear ourselves apart, 123 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: or we can give ourselves a pattern on the back 124 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: and say, you know what, we're doing the best we can. 125 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well said. 126 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, if we can look, 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: if we're looking at ourselves and we see something that 128 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: we don't like, this is a wonderful opportunity for us 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: to start working on it. 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I have made no secret 161 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: this week of the fact that it's not been the 162 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: best week for me. I've had a couple of just 163 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: lousy weeks, which is really unusual because normally I'm just 164 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: bubbly and bouncy and beaming and on top of the world. 165 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: But a few things have happened that have just been 166 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more challenging than normal. Thank you, by 167 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: the way, We've had so many emails from people who 168 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: heard what I said or jumped onto Facebook and sent 169 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: really kind emails through to off support. I'm not doing 170 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: it for sympathy. I'm doing fine, but it's been so 171 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: kind of people to reach out. Something that really struck me, though, 172 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: was when I was having my particularly bad day, and 173 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: I only had one of them, but it was really, 174 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: really bad. Our children were so kind and gentle to 175 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: me and to one another that particular day, with the 176 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: exception of Emily, who was six year old. She had 177 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: her moments and she just did what she did. But 178 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: our ten year old, our thirteen year old, our seventeen 179 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: year old, and our eighteen year old, the four of 180 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: them who were all at home, they looked out for me. 181 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: They came in cove me hugs. They said, we know 182 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: you're not doing okay, do you need anything? Can I 183 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: get you a drink? I was like, I should be 184 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: miserable more often. This is actually pretty good. And I 185 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: just thought, isn't it great how children, all children, they've 186 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: got this inbuilt sense that they really do care, they 187 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: really do want to help. I know that it's not 188 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: just our kids that would do that. I think most parents' 189 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: kids if they knew that the parents were having a 190 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: genuinely bad time, and if those parents communicated it effectively 191 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: and said I'm really struggling to keep it together today 192 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: and I just need you to give me some space, 193 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: I think that those kids would go away to their rooms, 194 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: or go away to the living room or the backyard, 195 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: have a think about things, and then say I need 196 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: to help my dad or I need to help my mom. 197 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: I actually think that that story has more to do 198 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,239 Speaker 3: about your parenting than it does about our children. Specifically. 199 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: They have watched you do that very thing for them 200 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: and for me for years. 201 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: Well, they're awesome kids, And my insight is just that 202 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: our children, children generally have got tremendous capacity for kindness. 203 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: The challenge becomes making sure that they retain that capacity 204 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: and grow that capacity rather than frightening it out of 205 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: them and being cranky at them and all that kind 206 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: of thing. And that was a really big insight for 207 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: me this week. So I was grateful for that, and 208 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: that's my I'll do better tomorrow. It's probably less about 209 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: me and more about just how good it is to 210 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: have these fantastic kids. We've had some really really kind 211 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: feedback come through to the podcast and a couple of 212 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: five star reviews. Missus happy families. They're probably related more 213 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: to you than me, because everybody who loves you Bert. 214 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: Would you like to share these real quick? 215 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: So Jamma Mama said, feels like having friends over to chat. 216 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: What a blessing this podcast has been to me and 217 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: my family. 218 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, gave us a love heart and five stars. By 219 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: the way, before jemm and Mama said, what a blessing 220 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: the podcast is. 221 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: I'm a better mother and a more sane person. Thank you, doctor. 222 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: Justin Colson and Kylie awesome stuff, and an anonymous listener 223 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: has said, great space, five stars. I love this podcast, simple, 224 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: easy to follow direction in parenting. 225 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: Well, we love those five star reviews. Please keep them coming. 226 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: They help other people to find the podcast and find 227 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: joy in family life. Really appreciate Jamma Mama and our 228 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: anonymous reviewer giving us those two five star reviews. 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