1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Calcuttin woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily ozz acknowledges 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: Straight island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily ODS. Bit of 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: a different voice in your is now in a minute, 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the thirty first of August. I am Billy, 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm the TDA editor and I'm standing in for Zara. 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: Today and I'm still Sam standing in for me. 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: All members of the new Parliament have now submitted their 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Declaration of interest form, meaning that for the first time 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: we have a sense of what some conflicts of interest 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: might be. In today's deep dive or we'll tell you 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: what you need to know about the declarations. But first Sam, 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: there was some massive news yesterday. 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: Former teacher Chris Dawson was found guilty of the nineteen 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: eighty two murder of his wife Lynette. The judgment was 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: handed down in the New South Wales Supreme Court yesterday, 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: and follows the twenty eighteen true crime podcast by The 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Australian that investigated the suspicious circumstances surrounding Lynett Dawson's death. 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Chris Dawson was charged with murder in twenty eighteen and 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: was extradded to Sidney from his Gold Coast home to 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: face trial. 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: The New South Wales and Victorian governments have committed to 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: establishing twenty five urgent care clinics each in a move 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: that hopes to ease the strain on nurses and doctors 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: across those states. New South Wales Premier Dominic Perete and 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: the Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews made the announcement in Melbourne yesterday, 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: with Andrews calling it a common sense investment. 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: Queensland Premier Anastasia Palichet has announced a seventy million dollar 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: investment to help employers diversify their workforce and upskill workers 34 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: to address an impending labor shortage in the state. During 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: the announcement, Palichet said that an extra two hundred and 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: eighty one thousand jobs will need to be filled in 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: Queensland by twenty twenty five, and that the new investment 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: would help fill this gap. 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: And today's good news Serena Williams has won the first 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: round match of what could be her final US Open campaign. 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: The forty year old athlete announced earlier this month that 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: she was evolving away from tennis, adding on Instagram that 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 2: she would relish these next few weeks. 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: Today we're talking about declaration of interests. Why don't we 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: start with what they are? 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So all members of Parliament they have to declare 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: their interests when they come into office, and it's where 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: members are asked to list anything that may conflict with 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: their public duty. The reason for this is that of 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: course members of Parliament vote on legislation and that can 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: have serious consequences for Australians, including financial losses and gains. So, 52 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: for example, if a minister is pushing for legislation that 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: impacts a company, but they're also a shareholder in that company, 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: that legislation could have real financial consequences for them personally. 55 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: So the declaration of registered interests is about guaranteeing transparency 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: so that if a minister is pushing for legislation that 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: could benefit them, the public is informed and can hold 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: them accountable to. 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: That you mentioned shares there what else do members of 60 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: parliament have to declare? 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: So as well as any shares that members have in 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: private or public companies, Parliamentarians also need to declare any 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: real estate that they own and any other investments or 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: liabilities that they hold. And this also includes gifts valued 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: over seven hundred and fifty dollars that are received in 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: an official capacity. And interestingly, it's not just themselves. They 67 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: also have to be declared for their partners and also 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: their dependent children. 69 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: So that means basically that if a child of a 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: politician got an eight hundred dollars PlayStation five, the hottest model, 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: it would have to be declared. Is that what? 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: No, that's not true. So because a gift like a 73 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: PlayStation would probably come from one of their parents or 74 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: Santa Claus, that doesn't need to be declared because that 75 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: hasn't been given to the child in an official capacity. 76 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 77 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Santa Claus is real right? Moving on, well, 78 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: why don't we move on to the leaders of the parties. 79 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: What did we learn in these disclosures about what Prime 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: Minister Anthony Alberanezi owns? 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: So the PM registered three properties, he registered two residentials, 82 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: so one in Sydney in Marrickville and one in Canberra. 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: And he also registered one investment property in his declaration 84 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: and he didn't list any shareholding, so the Prime Minister 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: has no shares according to his registration. But he did 86 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: list the following gifts. So he included tickets to a 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: Jimmy Barnes concert gifted by Jimmy Barnes himself. I'm impressed 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: that those are worth more than seven hundred and fifty dollars. 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, he's clearly not a working class man. 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: Vinyl records and van t shirts from New Zealand Prime 91 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: Minister Jacinda Adern and a bamboo bicycle from the President 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: of Indonesia. 93 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: And let's go across the aisle. Now, what does Peter 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: Dutton have in the bottom draw? 95 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: So Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, he disclosed two properties, one 96 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: residential investment property and also a farm. And he also 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: registered a domestic flight in June, paid for by Hancock Prospecting, 98 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: which is a mining company owned by business magnate Gina 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: ryan Hart. He also declared a tractor valued over seven 100 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars and he also declared a membership of 101 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: the Quantas Chairman's Lounge. 102 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: Billy, I wanted to read you some headlines we saw 103 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: yesterday in relation to the Member for North Sydney, Kylie Tink, 104 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: shareholder activism TILL MP Kylie Tink defends fossil fuels and 105 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: one publication also said climate independent MP defends fossil fuel shares. 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: Talk me through this. 107 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: So Kylie Tink is one of the TIL independents. She 108 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: is the Member for North Sydney, and she declared shares 109 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: in two oil companies. Now, don't get me wrong, I 110 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: want to point this out that lots of parliamentarians invest 111 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: in oil and fossil fuels. But the reason that she 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: received so much backlash over this is that she campaigned 113 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: on emissions reduction and climate action at their most recent election, 114 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: and she obviously won that election now being the Member 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: for North Sydney. So, as you pointed out there, Sam, 116 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: there were a few headlines around about this which prompted 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: a response from Tink herself, and she defended her decision, 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: saying that she only purchased small shareholdings in these companies, 119 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: and she also said that she did so to act 120 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: as a shareholder activist. 121 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: It's interesting to me that there are other politicians who 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: are also invested in fossil fuels. Who are they? 123 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you in just a moment. First message from 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: our sponsor, Okay, we are back. You asked me Sam 125 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: who else had invested in fossil fuels? And again, like 126 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 2: I said before, there are lots of parliamentarians who invest 127 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: like Rowan Ramsey and Tony Zapia. And two other notable 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: names is Barnaby Joyce and David Liddelproud who both list 129 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: shares held by their dependent children in BHP. But one 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: that I think is interesting is Bridget Archer. So she 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: is a Liberal member from Tasmania and she's declared shares 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: in mining and iron ore companies. And the reason that 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: this is interesting and has drawn some attention is because 134 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: she has previously spoken in support of greater climate action 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: and recently even crossed the floor to vote with the 136 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: Labor government on their twenty thirty emissions target bill. When 137 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: TDA reached out to Archer's office, they said that she 138 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: purchased the shares many years ago and that they are 139 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: worth less than a few hundred dollars. 140 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: This might be a bit of a weird take, but 141 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: the thing that really jumps out to me when you're 142 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: talking through all of these issues, Billy, is just how 143 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 3: lucky we are to be inside a system that has 144 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: these sort of leavers, so that we kind of know, 145 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: I mean, presuming that everyone's being on us here, that 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: we know what our politicians' other interests might be. I mean, 147 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: I can think of dozens of countries around the world 148 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: where that kind of thing would just never happen. And 149 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool that we can actually 150 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: see that Anthony Alberezi was given a gift of two 151 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: tickets to a Jimmy Barnes concert, because then if he 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: passed a law that was in favor of Jimmy Barnes, 153 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: we'd understand the link between the two. 154 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: We don't know if it was two tickets, could have 155 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: been an entire. 156 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Row for all week. Must have been above seven hundred 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: and yes, exactly, so there were some good seats. Thanks 158 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: so much for joining us on the Daily OS. If 159 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 3: you learn something from today's episode, don't forget to hit subscribe. 160 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Zara will be back in the chair tomorrow morning. Until then, 161 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: have a sensational hump day.