1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more Kids podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,468 Speaker 1: live on the Free I hard. 3 00:00:16,308 --> 00:00:19,869 Speaker 2: A could have been every under his will and Woody 4 00:00:19,948 --> 00:00:23,948 Speaker 2: Laura Henshaw's in the studio. She just stepped down as 5 00:00:23,948 --> 00:00:27,509 Speaker 2: the CEO of Kick and she's heavily pregnant. 6 00:00:27,589 --> 00:00:30,509 Speaker 3: Unrelated, They're unrelated. 7 00:00:30,989 --> 00:00:32,309 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful coincidence. 8 00:00:32,748 --> 00:00:34,309 Speaker 3: Is that right? That is exactly right? 9 00:00:34,388 --> 00:00:37,469 Speaker 1: Okay, just checking, So definitely not stepping down because you're pregnant, 10 00:00:37,629 --> 00:00:39,629 Speaker 1: and I think it's important to send the message out 11 00:00:39,668 --> 00:00:41,668 Speaker 1: that like, even if you are pregnant or having children, 12 00:00:41,748 --> 00:00:44,788 Speaker 1: you can absolutely stay in your role as CEO. 13 00:00:45,188 --> 00:00:46,709 Speaker 3: I do want to ask you, though, I Reckon, We. 14 00:00:46,668 --> 00:00:50,428 Speaker 1: Spoke to you a year and a half ago before 15 00:00:50,468 --> 00:00:52,749 Speaker 1: you were pregnant and you're doing the podcast as well, 16 00:00:52,748 --> 00:00:54,429 Speaker 1: of should I have kids? Not sure if you want 17 00:00:54,469 --> 00:00:57,828 Speaker 1: to have kids, and that idea of work did come up, 18 00:00:58,309 --> 00:01:00,268 Speaker 1: and you were kind of grappling with that idea of 19 00:01:00,389 --> 00:01:03,589 Speaker 1: I spend so much time at work and other things 20 00:01:03,629 --> 00:01:07,069 Speaker 1: like can I make the whole family thing work? How 21 00:01:07,069 --> 00:01:08,989 Speaker 1: are you feeling about the whole thing now as your 22 00:01:08,989 --> 00:01:10,469 Speaker 1: partner Dulton feeling about it? 23 00:01:11,029 --> 00:01:12,989 Speaker 4: Oh, it was actually a big part of it was 24 00:01:13,029 --> 00:01:15,589 Speaker 4: my identity because it works been a larger career, large 25 00:01:15,629 --> 00:01:17,309 Speaker 4: part of my identity that I didn't want to lose. 26 00:01:18,309 --> 00:01:21,109 Speaker 4: And so I think the further I've come on the 27 00:01:21,189 --> 00:01:24,589 Speaker 4: journey and the more people I have met, and especially 28 00:01:24,629 --> 00:01:26,789 Speaker 4: like women working in executive roles or you know, whatever 29 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:29,309 Speaker 4: the role does have to be executive, might be what 30 00:01:29,349 --> 00:01:31,709 Speaker 4: I have found is a lot of the women that 31 00:01:31,869 --> 00:01:35,149 Speaker 4: haven't maybe stayed home for a long long time and 32 00:01:35,189 --> 00:01:37,749 Speaker 4: gone back to work and careers still stayed a really 33 00:01:37,789 --> 00:01:40,149 Speaker 4: big part of their life. They just don't talk about 34 00:01:40,149 --> 00:01:43,828 Speaker 4: it on social media, so you just don't really hear 35 00:01:43,909 --> 00:01:46,268 Speaker 4: a lot about it, which means why I was scared 36 00:01:46,269 --> 00:01:48,909 Speaker 4: that that wouldn't be able to be me, but it 37 00:01:48,949 --> 00:01:50,869 Speaker 4: can be. So that's been really good to navigate. 38 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:52,309 Speaker 3: Do you think they don't do it? 39 00:01:52,309 --> 00:01:54,269 Speaker 1: Because and I otherwise thought it was very unfair of 40 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:57,429 Speaker 1: like when Abby Holmes is someone who works as a 41 00:01:57,429 --> 00:02:00,709 Speaker 1: commentator for the AFL and she returned to work after 42 00:02:00,709 --> 00:02:01,229 Speaker 1: having a baby. 43 00:02:01,229 --> 00:02:03,429 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what the time was, seven weeks 44 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:03,909 Speaker 4: I think. 45 00:02:03,829 --> 00:02:07,629 Speaker 1: Seven weeks after that's right, Yeah, there was and online 46 00:02:07,909 --> 00:02:09,669 Speaker 1: just like you shouldn't be at work, you should be 47 00:02:09,668 --> 00:02:10,589 Speaker 1: at home with the baby. 48 00:02:11,549 --> 00:02:13,629 Speaker 3: How did you like seeing that out there? How did 49 00:02:13,629 --> 00:02:14,269 Speaker 3: that make you feel? 50 00:02:14,508 --> 00:02:14,668 Speaker 2: Oh? 51 00:02:14,749 --> 00:02:16,469 Speaker 4: I get it's like, would you ever say that to 52 00:02:16,549 --> 00:02:19,509 Speaker 4: the dad if it's a heterosexual relationship, like you, we 53 00:02:19,549 --> 00:02:22,309 Speaker 4: wouldn't say that, right, And for Abby, she's doing the 54 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:25,429 Speaker 4: best thing for herself and if going back to work 55 00:02:25,509 --> 00:02:28,469 Speaker 4: means that she'll be a better parent, then it's her 56 00:02:29,029 --> 00:02:30,349 Speaker 4: decision of course. 57 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:30,829 Speaker 3: Yeah. 58 00:02:30,909 --> 00:02:32,989 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy how people project like that. I wonder 59 00:02:33,069 --> 00:02:34,429 Speaker 4: for some of them it's like they didn't have the 60 00:02:34,469 --> 00:02:37,029 Speaker 4: opportunity to do that so or maybe they didn't want to, 61 00:02:37,109 --> 00:02:39,709 Speaker 4: and so it's uncomfortable that she wants to. 62 00:02:40,189 --> 00:02:42,749 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you and if you and Dalton discussed her? 63 00:02:42,789 --> 00:02:44,669 Speaker 3: And what does Dalton do for work? Does he? 64 00:02:44,989 --> 00:02:47,269 Speaker 4: So he runs his own business, but he's actually also 65 00:02:47,349 --> 00:02:49,069 Speaker 4: just stepped down a CEO, So. 66 00:02:51,629 --> 00:02:54,509 Speaker 1: He did he make his decision before pregnancy as well? 67 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:56,029 Speaker 3: Or is his pregnant pregnancy related? 68 00:02:56,589 --> 00:02:58,829 Speaker 4: He probably was a part of it, but not the 69 00:02:58,829 --> 00:02:59,788 Speaker 4: main the main thing. 70 00:03:00,069 --> 00:03:03,269 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So out of the two of you, Like, 71 00:03:03,349 --> 00:03:06,029 Speaker 1: is there going to be like a if we have 72 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:09,508 Speaker 1: to label like a primary caregiver out of the two 73 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:10,869 Speaker 1: of you, or is it just going to be like 74 00:03:10,949 --> 00:03:12,429 Speaker 1: you're going to try and just like split it. 75 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:17,909 Speaker 4: We haven't been parents yet, so I'm very like love. 76 00:03:20,349 --> 00:03:29,029 Speaker 4: But then the road to hell is paid, both both equal. 77 00:03:29,309 --> 00:03:31,469 Speaker 4: That's kind of what we where. We want to aim 78 00:03:31,469 --> 00:03:33,829 Speaker 4: for and obviously it will ebb and flow like everything does. 79 00:03:33,869 --> 00:03:36,389 Speaker 4: But that's how we want it. We want to do it. 80 00:03:36,429 --> 00:03:39,789 Speaker 4: But he's very regimented and he wants to have a 81 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:43,589 Speaker 4: two hour schedule overnight. He made us write it down. 82 00:03:43,629 --> 00:03:47,269 Speaker 4: It's very nice. He's thinking about it from eight six 83 00:03:47,629 --> 00:03:53,909 Speaker 4: pm until the next day am and two hours. Every 84 00:03:53,949 --> 00:03:55,069 Speaker 4: two hours someone has to happen. 85 00:03:55,229 --> 00:03:56,509 Speaker 2: Child's waking up at ten am. 86 00:03:58,789 --> 00:04:01,069 Speaker 4: We haven't we haven't had children, he said, Laura, I'm 87 00:04:01,069 --> 00:04:03,749 Speaker 4: going to take eight pm until two am, but I'm 88 00:04:03,789 --> 00:04:05,949 Speaker 4: not going to go to sleep the whole time. Why 89 00:04:06,469 --> 00:04:08,189 Speaker 4: just in case maybe needs me. 90 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:14,389 Speaker 2: That is in first Wow, get sleep when you can. 91 00:04:15,069 --> 00:04:16,508 Speaker 3: I just love the idea. Off you were sitting up 92 00:04:16,549 --> 00:04:18,988 Speaker 3: being like, no, it's my ship. Just punching red bulls. 93 00:04:19,428 --> 00:04:19,669 Speaker 4: Wow. 94 00:04:20,389 --> 00:04:26,429 Speaker 2: Preparing late, oh wow, to be fair getting back in 95 00:04:26,509 --> 00:04:29,469 Speaker 2: his job sounds like you need something to feel his time. 96 00:04:29,549 --> 00:04:33,589 Speaker 1: I was listening to babies crying in preparation. Wow, Like 97 00:04:33,629 --> 00:04:37,309 Speaker 1: I caught a baby boot camp ridiculous. Wow, don't do that. 98 00:04:37,869 --> 00:04:38,988 Speaker 1: It's not the same as having. 99 00:04:38,869 --> 00:04:39,669 Speaker 3: A real baby crying. 100 00:04:41,109 --> 00:04:43,349 Speaker 2: So how so, when do you officially stop work or 101 00:04:43,389 --> 00:04:44,429 Speaker 2: have you officially stopped work? 102 00:04:44,669 --> 00:04:46,709 Speaker 4: I haven't yet. I've stepped out of the rule, but 103 00:04:46,749 --> 00:04:47,949 Speaker 4: I'm still working. 104 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:50,149 Speaker 2: Because you're aware that all of this could flip very quickly. 105 00:04:50,229 --> 00:04:51,789 Speaker 2: I was just thinking of a friend of mine who's 106 00:04:51,829 --> 00:04:54,269 Speaker 2: a high power, Like she's a partner at a personal 107 00:04:54,269 --> 00:04:58,309 Speaker 2: injury firm. She works incredibly hard, and she recently just 108 00:04:58,349 --> 00:05:00,509 Speaker 2: took her matt leave and I think the first week 109 00:05:00,589 --> 00:05:02,669 Speaker 2: she was she caught it with like a maide of 110 00:05:02,669 --> 00:05:05,389 Speaker 2: mine's dad for coffee, just to fill the time. 111 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,229 Speaker 3: Like she like she was proper. 112 00:05:08,349 --> 00:05:10,709 Speaker 2: And I know how busy you are, so you know 113 00:05:10,829 --> 00:05:14,949 Speaker 2: there will be probably a gestation period there mind the 114 00:05:14,949 --> 00:05:19,309 Speaker 2: pun off when you begin this change of your life, 115 00:05:19,629 --> 00:05:23,709 Speaker 2: that's all you've known. Yeah, it'll be like wow. And then, 116 00:05:23,789 --> 00:05:25,869 Speaker 2: because I mean it's funny, we're asking all these questions, 117 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:28,789 Speaker 2: you won't like, you won't know exactly, you won't know. 118 00:05:28,869 --> 00:05:30,629 Speaker 2: And then you hear these stories of other people who 119 00:05:30,829 --> 00:05:32,509 Speaker 2: are career people, their whole lives, they have a child, 120 00:05:32,509 --> 00:05:33,949 Speaker 2: they throw the whole thing out the window and they're like, 121 00:05:33,988 --> 00:05:35,308 Speaker 2: why would I ever do anything to do with that 122 00:05:35,349 --> 00:05:37,149 Speaker 2: ever again? And then you know you got to Abby, 123 00:05:37,469 --> 00:05:40,429 Speaker 2: who knows it's all so different from everyone's No way 124 00:05:40,429 --> 00:05:43,229 Speaker 2: you can do it. Yeah, I'm certainly not a two 125 00:05:43,229 --> 00:05:44,628 Speaker 2: hour by two hours nightly. 126 00:05:46,749 --> 00:05:52,069 Speaker 4: For two hours, I was like, I've got forty five 127 00:05:52,109 --> 00:05:53,909 Speaker 4: minutes to go and to wake up for them. 128 00:05:54,749 --> 00:05:58,428 Speaker 3: I really hope Dad's awake, My dad, you're still there, 129 00:05:58,429 --> 00:06:01,669 Speaker 3: still in my shift? Hey, I before before we let 130 00:06:01,709 --> 00:06:01,989 Speaker 3: you go? 131 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:05,549 Speaker 2: Apparently am I right in saying that someone very famous 132 00:06:05,549 --> 00:06:07,069 Speaker 2: slid into your DMS recently? 133 00:06:08,229 --> 00:06:09,589 Speaker 4: Is that right? Ten years ago? 134 00:06:09,709 --> 00:06:10,229 Speaker 3: I don't know. 135 00:06:10,509 --> 00:06:13,029 Speaker 2: This is analys has fed this to me and she's 136 00:06:13,069 --> 00:06:16,709 Speaker 2: typing furiously now who is that's hot mail. 137 00:06:16,549 --> 00:06:18,469 Speaker 3: From ten years ago? Who is analyst? 138 00:06:18,509 --> 00:06:21,669 Speaker 2: Who is an analyst? And she said it on the kickpod? 139 00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:24,428 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so this was You know, you can. 140 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:25,269 Speaker 2: Just buzzy and analytes. 141 00:06:25,309 --> 00:06:27,709 Speaker 3: You don't have to type, go on buzzy and mate, 142 00:06:28,069 --> 00:06:29,909 Speaker 3: set it on the kickpod. Bora, there we go. 143 00:06:30,389 --> 00:06:34,268 Speaker 4: Okay, so I don't have ten years ago famous people 144 00:06:34,269 --> 00:06:35,589 Speaker 4: sliding in, so there's only been. 145 00:06:35,549 --> 00:06:37,149 Speaker 3: One a ten years pretty good though? 146 00:06:37,429 --> 00:06:40,869 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I reckon actually maybe it was. She was 147 00:06:40,949 --> 00:06:41,749 Speaker 4: quite a long time ago. 148 00:06:42,389 --> 00:06:43,269 Speaker 3: Freshened it up a little bit. 149 00:06:45,829 --> 00:06:51,429 Speaker 4: Deal David Beckham for what reason? Well, we worked together. 150 00:06:51,709 --> 00:06:52,829 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. 151 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:55,709 Speaker 3: Yes, and then she worked together, Yes, would work together. 152 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:58,789 Speaker 4: We both are ambassadors for I don't know if he 153 00:06:58,869 --> 00:07:01,389 Speaker 4: still is, but for AIA, which is an insurance company. 154 00:07:01,669 --> 00:07:07,188 Speaker 2: Really, yes, an ambassador for insurance company. Better people being inmbassadors, 155 00:07:07,189 --> 00:07:10,229 Speaker 2: but you know, charity and stuff. But you can be 156 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:14,869 Speaker 2: an ambassador for like yui, what do you mean is 157 00:07:14,909 --> 00:07:15,269 Speaker 2: that right? 158 00:07:15,789 --> 00:07:16,949 Speaker 3: I have an ambassador for Amy? 159 00:07:19,269 --> 00:07:22,909 Speaker 1: David was a global Oh sorry sorry, yeah, And so 160 00:07:22,989 --> 00:07:24,789 Speaker 1: he DMS you and says he just. 161 00:07:24,709 --> 00:07:26,589 Speaker 4: Said, like, lovely to meet you. He's really lovely. 162 00:07:27,109 --> 00:07:31,469 Speaker 2: That's nice, yeah, beautiful, Yeah, yes, how did you How 163 00:07:31,469 --> 00:07:32,189 Speaker 2: did you like? 164 00:07:32,269 --> 00:07:33,269 Speaker 3: How did you bat that off? 165 00:07:33,269 --> 00:07:33,389 Speaker 4: Like? 166 00:07:33,429 --> 00:07:34,669 Speaker 3: Are you or did you like? 167 00:07:34,709 --> 00:07:36,429 Speaker 2: What did you engage? What sort of chat to engage 168 00:07:36,469 --> 00:07:38,509 Speaker 2: in there with? David Beckham's lovely. 169 00:07:38,269 --> 00:07:40,309 Speaker 4: To meet you too? And then we were catching up. 170 00:07:40,389 --> 00:07:42,429 Speaker 4: We had another event tomorrow, so I said to see 171 00:07:42,429 --> 00:07:43,029 Speaker 4: you tomorrow. 172 00:07:43,749 --> 00:07:45,909 Speaker 3: Yeah, And how was he? How was he in person? David? 173 00:07:46,229 --> 00:07:48,269 Speaker 3: Was it weird because you d M the night before? 174 00:07:48,749 --> 00:07:48,829 Speaker 1: No? 175 00:07:48,949 --> 00:07:52,149 Speaker 3: Not in that way? He DM you but it wasn't 176 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:55,469 Speaker 3: that type of d All dms are like that your mind. 177 00:07:55,629 --> 00:07:57,389 Speaker 2: I haven't been on social media for a long time, 178 00:07:57,429 --> 00:08:00,589 Speaker 2: but in my in my game, if David beckhams sliding. 179 00:08:00,349 --> 00:08:04,909 Speaker 4: Into your d ms, he's a professional, is unbelievable. 180 00:08:05,069 --> 00:08:07,709 Speaker 3: You see him take a free kicks like your dms 181 00:08:07,709 --> 00:08:09,269 Speaker 3: were audible. 182 00:08:09,389 --> 00:08:11,109 Speaker 2: So there's no chat the next day, were you like, 183 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:14,909 Speaker 2: thanks for thanks for messaging me because your private messaged 184 00:08:14,949 --> 00:08:15,589 Speaker 2: me last night. 185 00:08:15,669 --> 00:08:18,309 Speaker 4: By the way, David, he's very busy and he has 186 00:08:18,349 --> 00:08:22,829 Speaker 4: like ten escorts around him. Escorts, yeah, like people just supporting. 187 00:08:22,829 --> 00:08:25,269 Speaker 3: I don't know, he's got like an entourage something. He's 188 00:08:25,269 --> 00:08:27,349 Speaker 3: just hanging out with sex workers. And you definitely know 189 00:08:27,349 --> 00:08:27,669 Speaker 3: what the D. 190 00:08:30,109 --> 00:08:30,149 Speaker 4: Is. 191 00:08:30,189 --> 00:08:30,789 Speaker 2: The word. 192 00:08:32,588 --> 00:08:34,189 Speaker 3: Let's get you out of here. 193 00:08:34,509 --> 00:08:37,349 Speaker 2: Don't mention it. It's not baby brain, it's not guys. 194 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:40,549 Speaker 2: She's fine, Laura. It's great to see you. Good luck 195 00:08:40,549 --> 00:08:42,549 Speaker 2: with the bird, Thank peace for coming in. 196 00:08:42,708 --> 00:08:43,268 Speaker 3: We'll see you soon. 197 00:08:43,429 --> 00:08:44,269 Speaker 2: It's really what you waite