1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It is Tuesday, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: the fourteenth of June. I hope those who had a 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: long weekend had a sensational one and no, there was 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people working over the weekend, so I 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: hope it was pleasant for those people as well. Zara. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Another big week of news ahead of us. Today on 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: the podcast, we're going to be bringing you up to 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: speed with the latest in gun control regulations from the US, 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: but first bring us some news from New South Wales. 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: To kick us off. 11 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Dominique Perrote used the long weekend 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: to bring up some old party plans that he had 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: when he was Treasurer, and that is to scrap stamp 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: duty over the weekend. He called it the worst tax 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: that any government can have and also said that stamp 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: duty is a massive impediment for people getting into the 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: housing market. He plans to advocate instead for an annual 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: broad based land tax, so that would be instead of 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: paying that stamp duty sum. 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: A new study by Amnesty International has found the Russian 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: forces have killed hundreds of civilians in the Ukraine city 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: of Kharkiv using indiscriminate shelling and cluster munitions. They're like 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: a group of bombs. According to the report, the bombardments 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: are indiscriminate attacks that constitute war crimes. 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: Moving over to New Zealand now and new data has 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: found that threats against New Zealand Prime Minister de Cindra 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Adern have almost tripled over the last three years. It's 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: understood that anti vaccine sentiment and opposition to new gun 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: laws that were brought in after the christ Church massacre 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: were behind the majority of the threats. 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: And today's good news, Australia's first Indigenous Supreme Court Judge 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Lincoln Crowley has been sworn in at a public ceremony 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: in Brisbane. Crowley said he was extremely proud and humbled Zara. 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, the Daily Os reported on legislation that 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: had passed in US Lower House around gun control. Now, 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: we had to be very careful with our wording on 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: this first slide to set expectations for readers. The front 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: slide of the piece read the un US Lower House 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: has voted for stronger gun laws, but it's expected to 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: be blocked by the Senate. I guess this was us 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: making clear from the outset that the iteration of the 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: bill that had passed the House of Reps wasn't going 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: to make it through to the Senate. So since that time, 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: we've gotten news from the US that it looks like 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: some gun control measures could pass. So let's start from 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: square one with this discussion with the Protecting Our Kids Act, Zara. 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: This is what passed the Lower House last week, and 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: it included for the US fairly major measures in the 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: context of gun control. 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really did. And that caveat that it was 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: big for the US is important to add because it's 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: not really big for anywhere else. But the Protecting Our 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Kids Act was introduced to US Congress, and that was 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: at a time where it was less than a week 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: after the shooting at rob Elementary School in Texas. Their 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: nineteen students and two teachers were killed. So this act 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: aimed to raise the age for buying a semi automatic 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: rifle to twenty one and to ban selling ammunition magazines 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: with a capacity greater than fifteen rounds. Beyond raising the age, 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: the Act also looked to establish new federal criminal offenses 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: for gun trafficking and a federal framework to regulate guns 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: without serial numbers, all very logical things here. Under the Act, 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: the shooters in Uvaldi and Buffalo, who were both eighteen 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: years old, wouldn't have been able to purchase the semi 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: automatic weapons that they both used in their respective attacks. Now, 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: the good news was that this legislation passed two hundred 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: and twenty three votes to two hundred and four votes. 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: All but two Democrats supported the legislation and on the 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: filip side, all but five Republicans opposed it. So it 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: was fairly split down partisan lines. 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: And so this means that the legislation goes to the 72 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Senate in order for it to become law. It's a 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: similar system to what we have here, that the law 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: travels from the House of Reps and the checks and 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: balances of the Senate gives it the tick. Now, given 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: that most Republicans opposed the bill in the lower House, 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I imagine that this is the same as well happened 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: in the Upper House. 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's entirely right. And it's important here to 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: understand the composition of the Senate. We've spoken about it 81 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: before on this podcast, and we spoke about it in 82 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: the context of why it has stopped President Barden from 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 2: taking sweeping action on things like gun control. The short 84 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: story here is that in order for the Democrats to 85 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: pass legislation, they need at least ten Republicans to vote 86 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: with them, and that's in order to overcome the threat 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: of a filibuster. A filibuster is not something we have 88 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: in Australia, but it basically just allows a politician to 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: endlessly talk in order to obstruct the passage of a 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: piece of legislation. Now, with that context, let's talk about 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: Monday morning, Australian time, when it was announced that a 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: bipartisan group of senators had agreed on a framework that 93 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: would regulate firearms with enough Republican support to advance in 94 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: the narrowly divided Senate. So this bipartisan, which means that 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: both sides were involved in creating it. That bipartisan agreement 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: had enough support, according to the people that were in 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: the group, to actually pass through the Senate and get 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: those ten Republicans on side. The group said in a 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: statement today, we are announcing a common sense, bipartisan proposal 100 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: to protect America's children, keep our school safe, and reduce 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: the threat of violence across our country. 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: And so, does this mean that that group has agreed 103 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: to the Protecting Our Kids Act? Is the agreement that 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: is in front of these bipartisan group of senators. Now 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: the same one as the bill that we started this 106 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: podcast talking about. 107 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: It looks very different, so it's not the same at all. 108 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: At a high level, the pan includes three major elements. 109 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: It includes support for red flag laws, so that keeps 110 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: guns away from potentially dangerous people and basically just allows 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: courts to issue in order that authorizes police to confiscate 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: guns from people that they say would be displaying concerning behavior. 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: So there's that red flag law that is number one. 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Then number two. It also introduces tougher criminal background checks 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: for buyers under the age of twenty one. Now you'll 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: remember when we were talking about this at the beginning, 117 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Democrats wanted to raise the age from eighteen to twenty one. 118 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 2: That is not the case in this agreement, but it does, 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: as I just said, include tougher background checks for those 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: younger people. There's also a crackdown on people buying firearms 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: for others who wouldn't pass a background check. I didn't 122 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: know this was a thing. It's called straw purchasing, and 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: the idea is that this behavior would be cracked down 124 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: on and would be a focus in the United States. 125 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that this falls well short of what 126 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats were hoping to achieve in terms of stricter 127 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: gun control. 128 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: It definitely does, but the plan has been praised by 129 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: President Biden as a quote step in the right direction. 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: It shows a willingness by Republicans to at least take 131 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: some action, even if it doesn't go as far as 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: Democrats would like. But it is important to say here 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: that it's far from a done deal. From here, the 134 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: bill will actually have to be written, and getting the 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: wording right will be really important. As we've said a 136 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: number of times throughout this podcast, the key here is 137 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: that Democrats need to keep all of those Republicans on 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: side to make sure they can get the ten to 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: vote with them. There will be a lot of pressure 140 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: both from internally in the Republican Party externally from lobbyists 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: like the NRA trying to sway the outcome of this 142 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: bipartisan work. So it is far from a done deal, 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: but both sides will be keen to get it done 144 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 2: in some form, no doubt. 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: We will have to wait and see to see if 146 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: these modest changes actually do see the light of day, 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: But I think it's clear now that something needs to 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: be done in the US. I read a stat yesterday 149 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: from the Gun Violence Archive that said there has been 150 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: a mass shooting in the US every day this month 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: except one every single day. 152 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 2: It is shocking and it's no doubt something American voters 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: cared deeply about. And it'll be very interesting to see 154 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: what happens during the mid terms later this year in 155 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: November and whether or not gun control becomes an electoral issue. 156 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: It comes up time and time again in the news 157 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: side and then never seems to really stick electorally. So 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people, especially on the progressive side of politics, 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: are asking people to only vote for those the will 160 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: enact stronger gun control measures, but whether or not that 161 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: actually happens remains to be seen. 162 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Somehow, we find ourselves in mid June, so the November 163 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: midterms are not too far away. That's all we've got 164 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: time for today on the Daily OS. If you want 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: to follow the news throughout the day, check us out 166 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: on Instagram. 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