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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Oh we love this woman. Our next guest is a

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Speaker 2: tour de force in the literary world. Her razor, sharp

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Speaker 2: wit and candid humor have touched hearts through her best

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Speaker 2: selling novels such as Puberty Blues, Husband Replacement Therapy. She's

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Speaker 2: got a new book out called The Revenge Club. Kathy

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Speaker 2: led High she.

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Speaker 1: Is Hello, favorite woman, and Hello, Jonesy, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Kathy? I am well.

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Speaker 2: I love the notion of this book, which is well,

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Speaker 2: I don't love why the notion of whites ride. You

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Speaker 2: know what it's about. But as women get older, we

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Speaker 2: become invisible. And it's ain't that the truth?

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Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? I mean, how old are you, Jonesy?

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Speaker 1: Are you kind of your silver Fox territory?

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Speaker 3: I'm fifty six in April.

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Speaker 1: Third, So you get to be silver Fox where we

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Speaker 1: get to be an old bag, a hag, a crone,

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Speaker 1: an old I mean a man of You're a goddess

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Speaker 1: at all times, obviously.

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Speaker 2: But the language is quite different, isn't it. The language

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Speaker 2: between us is quite different.

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Speaker 1: And also we get told what we can wear, what

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Speaker 1: we can't wear. I've never heard a man's missus Mutton

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Speaker 1: dressers ram ever, right, So this in this novel, four

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Speaker 1: women former Revenge Club to take revenge on the men

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Speaker 1: who shack them for the crime of hitting middle age.

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Speaker 1: It's like a cross between The First Wives Club and

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Speaker 1: Nine to five with a bit of missusdoubt fire or

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Speaker 1: missed out fire thrown in. I say no more, but

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Speaker 1: it was great fun to write. It was very cathartic.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I bet, and we've all seen this. I read

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Speaker 2: a study that said that they mocked up a bank

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Speaker 2: robbery and people had to say what they had seen

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Speaker 2: and who'd been where the middle age or the sort

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Speaker 2: of the woman in her fifties, no one tracked where

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Speaker 2: she wash. You can live a life of crime and

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Speaker 2: no one would know. You're completely invisible.

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Speaker 1: Well all that listen, Well we agree they give us

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Speaker 1: a cloak of invisibility. The question is are we going

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Speaker 1: to use it for good or for evil? Because even

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Speaker 1: am I five, and they're saying now they want to

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Speaker 1: recruit older women because nobody sees us. I know, but

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Speaker 1: I think you know it's ridiculous because post menopause is

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Speaker 1: the best time of a woman's life, you know, because

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Speaker 1: no period cramps, you know, no pregnancy fish. You've got

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Speaker 1: all that tampon money to spend. So I want to

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Speaker 1: say to women, go forth and be fabulous and have

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Speaker 1: a great second act and kind of put yourself first

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Speaker 1: for the first time in your life. Liberating, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's also sexy. I mean people keep sending me, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're sixty. I go, no, I'm in my sexies. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all my girlfriends are swinging off a shandli with a

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Speaker 1: toy boy between their teeth. You know, they haven't gone

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Speaker 1: all beige and strange, and so you know, why can't

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Speaker 1: we celebrate that? So that's what this book does. It's

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Speaker 1: also a celebration of female friendship because I mean, Amanda,

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Speaker 1: I adore you. You know that. Yeah, And don't you

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Speaker 1: think whether when we're with our female friends, we are

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Speaker 1: each other's human wonderbras, uplifting, supportive, making each other look

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Speaker 1: bigger and better. And I just if I have any

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Speaker 1: gift at all the writer, it's writing down on putting

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Speaker 1: down on paper the way women speak when there's no

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Speaker 1: men around, because it's so funny and it's so fabulous.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I just try and capture in this book.

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Speaker 3: Particularly, I didn't realize this. I didn't know you were

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Speaker 3: a camper, an outdoors type, and I was watching you

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Speaker 3: on Instagram and you had a snake and a kangaroo

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Speaker 3: in shot at the camp like the new Coat of Arms.

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Speaker 1: I know we'll trouser snakes. What I really know a

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Speaker 1: lot about that, not the kind of creepy Crawley ones.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I love being back in Australia where

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Speaker 1: we live in the best country, the lod Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: You know, in Britain, I've been halfy in Britain, where

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Speaker 1: they think optimism is some kind of eye disease. But

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Speaker 1: out here, the energy and the pizzazz and the fun

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Speaker 1: and the frivolity and the just the positivity about life

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Speaker 1: is just so joyous. So it's beautiful to be home,

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Speaker 1: especially with all my Aussie great girlfriends, because I think

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Speaker 1: Australian women the world's best kept secret, Funny, feisty, fiercely loyal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are so lucky to have these

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Speaker 1: brilliant women around. You know, we are spoiled.

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Speaker 3: I love you spoil They're great.

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Speaker 2: I could eat four a day.

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Speaker 3: Everyone should own one.

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Speaker 1: Slap him.

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Speaker 3: That's a joke. Given Kathy, It's always great to talk

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Speaker 3: to you. The Revenge Club is out today in all

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Speaker 3: good bookstores near you. Kathy Let thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys. Lots of love by.

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Speaker 2: Amanda, see you soon. Absolutely bye bye