1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yor 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to She's on the Money podcast that 13 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: makes personal finance fun even on Fridays. It is our 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: favorite day of the week because we get the team 15 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: together and celebrate you ow incredible. She's on the Money community. 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: Today's just Greegie is going to be sharing her favorite 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: money wins from our community with you. Miss beck Sayed 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: is going to be sharing her broke tips and we're 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: going to be helping to answer a juicy money dilemma, 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: which this week is all about what to do when 21 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: you find out your colleague is doing the same job 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: as you, but is getting paid more to do it 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: and something that you slid into our DMS about this week, 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: we're talking about whether you should ask your partner to 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: stop going to the bank of Mum and Dad. 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Happy Hallowekend, Happy Halloweekend. 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: That's the theme. 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it is. 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 5: I've never heard that before. That's clever. 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: I feel like that's it. It's a big un mate. 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know what was the thing. It's my wedding anniversary. Yeah, 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: we can what secret. It's a great either way because 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: some people celebrated last weekend because this obviously Halloween this 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: week is in the middle of the week, so it's 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: take your pug. 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: Jess has just been like both, yeah, absolutely, I love that. 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: I love that. In not so spooky news, what is 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: my wedding anniversary this weekend? And I'm so excited about 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 4: that two years. But get this, you guys are gonna 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: be like, sorry, what the hotel that we got married at. 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: We were like so excited because we thought this is 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 4: going to be lame, but we could like go for 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 4: a stay ca on our anniversary and as our family grows, 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: like take take the kids and stuff. So we had 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: booked this stayk for a couple of nights at the 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: hotel that we got married at, and we were so 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: excited to take Carvey. And then they called us and 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: said they don't accept children at the hotel anymore. 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: Say, I haven't. 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what if anything happened, but they were like, yeah, 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 4: you can't bring your kid, and I'm like, my kid 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: is nearly eight months old. I will not just be 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 4: like leaving him at home. 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh we're not going. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: We're not going. We're just gonna hang out. It's fine. 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: But you know when you're just like, that's so strange. Rue. Also, 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: I want to know what happened that made you ban 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 4: kids in general. 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: You just know that someone's kid was like running up 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: the whole way, smearing shit on the walls or like 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: something extreme. Yeah, because if it wasn't like fair enough, 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: if it was a kid free hotel to begin with, 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: like an adults only remember I have my wedding there, 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: get the kids everywhere. 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: I'm really curious to know. 66 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: I just need to know the goss. Anyway. 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: Anyway, moving on, we have some new five star reviews. Guys, 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: who was just three cheek? Do you want to start 69 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: us off this week. Absolutely. 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: My one is from Kate Cute name, and she said, 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: I love this podcast so much. It has taught me 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: so much about money that I wish I knew years ago. 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: I love you so much better late than never. Highly 74 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: recommend you. 75 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: It is so sweet. I was in Spotlight yesterday and 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: I met one of ow She's on the Money community members, 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: and I looked like a bogan. I was wearing my 78 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: socks and my birken stocks together I call them burken socks, 79 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: and I was buying embroidery thread and did not look 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: my best and she was like, Hi, what are you embroidering? 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: I saw it on your and. 82 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: Making Santa sacks. Also, I really like you know how online. 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody else is as chronically online 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 4: as me, but I've seen a lot of girls buy 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: like jeans that have like little flower embroidery patches on 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: their like jean backs and pockets and stuff, and I 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: think it's so cute and they're so expensive, and I'm like, 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: can't be that hard? 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: Could you do it? 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: I could do it myself. And thread, like colored thread 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: is like a dollar fifty each, So I was like 92 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: this could be me. And also I have ADHD, so 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: that's my current hyperfixation. That's my hobby. I'll probably have 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: a new one in two weeks. Thank you great. 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: Well, before you get there, can you embroider me some jeans? 96 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: I would? Yeah, let me learn first. I mean I 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: have done embroidery before, but like, let me just blush 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: up on my skills and then you let me know 99 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: what you want and I'll. 100 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: Do it for you perfect, exactly exactly. 101 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: I want to know what's your five star review that 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 4: you're going to share this week? 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: Beck? 104 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 5: Okay, so this one comes from Brook. Brook says, I'm 105 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 5: absolutely loving this podcast. It's all I want to listen 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 5: to twenty four to seven. I appreciate the way Victoria 107 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: Devine explains complicated and confusing in brackets for someone with 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 5: no financial background subjects in a way that is simple 109 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: and easy to understand. Thank you so how nice is that? 110 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: I know? 111 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for this amazing resource. Fabulous she's 112 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 5: on the Money team. 113 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: I love that. 114 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: Also, there's like seven hundred plus episodes, so we can 115 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: be in your ears all the time. Also, I wouldn't 116 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: wish that upon anybody like that's fair. 117 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: If you want it, but maybe you don't want it. 118 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 4: Also, I mean, thank you for the five star review. 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. But there are a lot of 120 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: other good podcasts. My favorite one is Morbid. You should 121 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: like mix it up a little bit because only wanting 122 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: to listen to this girl. 123 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 5: She's only human. 124 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 4: True, it's true, It's true. I have one though. This 125 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: one's from Marie Kim. She says, love the empowering energy. 126 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm a long way from being a millennial. My thirty 127 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: something daughter put me on too, She's on the Money. 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: But I figure it's never too late to learn about 129 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: money and finance. It's so true, so right. Financial literacy 130 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: is so important for men, and no matter what age 131 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 4: you are or what your current knowledge level is, this 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: is a fantastic podcast. Lifelong learning is the key that 133 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: is so cool. Cur Hi, Everyone's welcome. I feel like 134 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: you guys might have noticed we have been moving away 135 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: from the Hello, We'll welcome to She's on the Money, 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: the podcast for millennials. Yeah, because I'm like, our community 137 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: is so diverse. Yeah, like, And over the last what 138 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: six months or so, we've been like the podcast that 139 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: makes personal finance fun. And I think that that's really like, 140 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: it's important to point that out as well, because we're 141 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: not just for millennials, like, we have so many younger 142 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: people and also so many older people, like we have 143 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: women in their seventies. And I think we had a 144 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: message what was it like a couple of months ago, 145 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: and they said, my grammar, who's eighty one, listened to 146 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: your podcast and thought it was really fun. No, I 147 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: was that cool? 148 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: Iconic? 149 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 4: Yeah? 150 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that. 151 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: It's probably an untapped retiree market we could get in retirement. 152 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Not much yet, but hopefully soon. We're working on it. 153 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 4: You know. Let's go on to the money wins from 154 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: our community this week, Jess, what are you bringing to 155 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: the table wearing a witch's hat? 156 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: Oh bridy. Firstly, this week I have went from Holly 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: who said, because if she's in the money's recommendation to 158 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: build an emergency fund. For the first time ever, I 159 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: was able to pay an unexpected three hundred dollars bill 160 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: that popped off with cash instead of putting it on 161 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: my credit card. 162 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: Is so cool and you're not just staying out of debt. 163 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: How good does it feel? 164 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Like? 165 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: Holy moly, I've got the cash for that, And that's 166 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: that's me changing my money story. Yeah, and seeing people. 167 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: We're getting around Holly on the thread, which was we 168 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: love to see it. Next, I've got a money win 169 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: from Lauren, who said I told my boss that I 170 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: was working on saving some money to buy some new furniture, 171 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: and she offered me an extra twelve hour shift to 172 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: pick up. 173 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: Oh thank you you that that's a photo of a 174 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: truck that was taila he had. 175 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: No break let. Next, I've got a money win from Katie, 176 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: who said she recommended our fabulous celebrant to two couples 177 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: who we know, who both ended up booking her for 178 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: their wedding. The celebrant ended up sending us a hundred 179 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: dollars restaurant vout chat. I so a thank you. That's 180 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: it's so sweet go out for dinner on us. 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: You're a new couple and probably spent all your money 182 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: on your wedding anyway. 183 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: I was just like, so thoughtful and sweet. Next, I've 184 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: got a money win from Sarah, who said she saved 185 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: ten grand off of their new shed build just by 186 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: getting an extra quote. She said she usually gets three, 187 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: but this time around, she just ended up getting four, 188 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: and the last one that came in was ten thousand 189 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 2: dollars cheaper than all others, more than you think. 190 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: See, I need to go get some driveway quotes there 191 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: you go, Yeah, because like ours came in and I 192 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: was like, absolutely not. And so right now I have 193 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: like a derelict front yard because we've started demolishing. And 194 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: then we realized that the quotes that came back, I 195 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: was like, I am not willing to pay that expended 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: absolutely not, yeah, but just exorbitant. Like I know that 197 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: putting in a new driveway, it's not going to be 198 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: a cheap yest. Yeah, but like, don't take the mickey, 199 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: you know, sure, I'm not going to play with you. 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 4: If you're not going to play nice chop around. 201 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, I suggest at least four at least for Sarah's recommendation. 202 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: So there you go, orribe what else have you got? 203 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: And lastly, this week, I've got a money in from 204 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: Maddie who said a brow salon that she's visited in 205 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: the past posted on the Instagram story because they had 206 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: a couple of free slots for a brow and lash 207 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: appointment if you were happy to be a content model 208 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: because they needed it for the Instagram tape. Pics at 209 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: any time. Absolutely so Maddie swooped in, snagged a booking 210 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: and saved herself one hundred and twenty bucks one hundred 211 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: and twenty dollars because I guess it was a free 212 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: She's going to retreat so expensive. Do you guys remember Beck, 213 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: You're probably going to be like, nah, never when like 214 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: a full set of nails was like thirty dollars crazy? 215 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Do you remember when you used to get them. 216 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: Like in like end of high school, like thirty bucks 217 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 4: and you get there these chunky aresacrylics terrible, you know 218 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: the ones, the really thick wide. 219 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, or they sound so. 220 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: Like they were thirty dollars. Yeah, they'd be like how 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 4: much now plasticky? Oh you're paying like seventy dollars at 222 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: least to get stuff nowadays black material. And I mean 223 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: we live in like what's central Melbourne, so like it 224 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: might be less out of Melbourne, but like it's I'm 225 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: not saying it's not worth it, like absolutely not, Like 226 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: still pay your nail text they deserve it. But at 227 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: the end of the day, like just remember when things 228 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: didn't feel as so, Yeah. 229 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: That's why I do my nails at home because. 230 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: I do my nails at home as well, and I 231 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: love it, but I do pay for my brows and lashes. 232 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: It's not something I'm willing to mess around with. We 233 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: all know i'd mess it around for real bad. Yeah, 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: come in with no eyebrows and you'd be like I 235 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: thought they were tattooed on. 236 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: Victoria and I did for this week. 237 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: I love that. 238 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Beck. 239 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: Have you got some little broke tips? If so, what 240 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: are they? 241 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: I do? 242 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: Actually, just really quickly. I almost had a money lost 243 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: this week, and I just I feel that it's important 244 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: to tell in case anyone else gets one of these. 245 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: So I got an email the other day and it 246 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 5: was like Rebecca sired and it had my date of birth, 247 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 5: and it was like, how do I know this? It 248 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: was very like it was scarey, but it was also 249 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 5: very like they're talking to me and they're like, we've 250 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 5: tapped your computer and we're going to share. 251 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 6: All of you. 252 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was excuse and like all. 253 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 5: This, all this time, you've been building your reputation. I 254 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: was like, I don't know what they're talking about, but 255 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: I was also like I'm scared about what they Also. 256 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: I have been trying to keep a clean little reputation. 257 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: I was like, I guess everyone knows, but I was like, 258 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: is there I don't know, And so you start questioning 259 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: yourself and then I was like, I was. 260 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: Like, we're nice people. Just send us two thousand dollars 261 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 5: and I was like, what is anyway? I d ended 262 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: up doing anything, obviously, because I was like, I guess 263 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 5: you know, I'm not too worried, and nothing happened, but 264 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 5: I guess it did. Someone out like, what are you 265 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 5: going to do? Say something bad about me? Have a 266 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 5: fun time? Yeah, you want to send photos of me 267 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 5: to everyone? Everyone has the ugliest photos of me that 268 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: I've ever seen. 269 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: I think you can say something to me that I 270 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: haven't said to myself. 271 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: Sit down email. 272 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: I think they assume that everyone has something they want 273 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: to hide, and they're just hoping that someone goes, oh, 274 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: like I've got photos or I've got screenshots, or I've 275 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: got something. 276 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 5: Or I don't want to get to share them? 277 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Share them? 278 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: Are they photos of me? 279 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: Pre baby? Yeah? Show people? 280 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 5: Yes, isn't me looking down on my phone with the 281 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 5: double chin? 282 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: Sure? 283 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: Send it welcome anyway. 284 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: In case anyone gets. 285 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: One of those, don't do anything about it, because no 286 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 5: I'm not real. 287 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: No, they're not. They're just hoping that you'll be your 288 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: paddic if you're something. 289 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: I do really enjoy the scam the scammer videos that 290 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: are going around at the moment. 291 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: I love I just I love it. 292 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: And when the guy pretends to be the little old 293 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: lady and he's like, oh, yes, I got the Apple 294 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: gift card and he's like, yes, read me the numbers. 295 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: And then he's like, yes, I've just put it in 296 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: and I bought something with it. That's so exciting, and 297 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: the scam is like, you're. 298 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Not meant to do. 299 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: It's just sweet revenge. 300 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you're a scammer, you deserve it. Every 301 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: awful thing that's. 302 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: Coming up right back to broke tips back. 303 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, so this first one comes from a friend 304 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: of mine and who says, if you save this all 305 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: Halloween theme just by the way, yea, if you. 306 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: Say Halloween theme, our money wins. I did look that 307 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: cut a money lot or a Neil money lost school kids. 308 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 5: We're doing that all day. Okay. So my friend says 309 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 5: that if you know, at the end of Easter, like 310 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: everything's super cheap, like all the eggs and stuff like 311 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: that if you save, you save all those and you 312 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 5: put those really cheap. You can also like boxing day 313 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 5: things like that, any kind of day where chocolate is 314 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 5: crazy cheap. The next day or day off or whatever, 315 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: just bulk by and kids don't mind. If the chocolate's 316 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 5: got a little bit of that fat bloom on it, 317 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: they're gonna eat it. They don't mind. 318 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: I did. 319 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't eat it as a kid, So be careful 320 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 4: because I think that Jess would be the same. You 321 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: know where they get the little white that is. Yeah, 322 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 4: seeing the chocolate coming out, it's usually like just like cocoa. 323 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Butter, like it's actually sounding. 324 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: It's quicker about it, like that's in chocolate, Like it's 325 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 4: good for you. It's not bad. It just like starts 326 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: to separate over time because I. 327 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: Just thought the chocolate was going bad. I've never really 328 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: given it that much. 329 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: No, so you were like over and out. You can 330 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 4: cout it still though, because it will remelt into your ingredients. 331 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: I buy the like mini eggs, but then I regret 332 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: the mini eggs when I decide to use that chocolate 333 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: for a recipe and I have to hand unral eggs 334 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: and put them in a bowl until like you get 335 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: two hundred grams or something, and I'm like, why did 336 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: I do this? 337 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 338 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: Why is they're not a TikTok hack yet for quickly 339 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: undoing all of them? Because sometimes, like you're, I am 340 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: raving this. Sometimes I'm insatiable, especially with these little eggs. 341 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: I like that it slows me down. Yeah, that's fairy, 342 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: like I need to be. I need to be held 343 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: back from the chocolates, and so individually wrapped things help 344 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: because you best believe if I buy a whole block 345 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: of chocolate. 346 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: She's gone, gone, She's gone. 347 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: Like I opened it. It's one serving, one package goals 348 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: one serving. 349 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: No, I agree with that. I agree with that. This 350 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: ex one comes from alex. This one is silly and 351 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: really funny and just like maybe no one will use it. 352 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: If you put a an empty bowl of just an 353 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 5: empty bottle out and you put like a little sign 354 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: saying just take one, then it will look like if 355 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: you've been pillaged already and you don't have to do anything. 356 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: Treated get but you don't want your house to beg 357 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 358 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, people still egg houses. 359 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure they would. Surely someone cut it off on 360 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: the and they honked it as really loud at like 361 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: driving home the other day, and my boyfriend was like, 362 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: on Halloween, we're going to find if we can. We're not, 363 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: We're not, but he. 364 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, I mean I don't want to waste eggs, 365 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: but can we keep eggs in our cars and just 366 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: egg people who cut us offween? 367 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so fine. 368 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: I think treat hard to treat ha ha. 369 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: It's not even a treat. 370 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: It is such an annoying prank though, isn't it. 371 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: I remember our house way back when I was probably 373 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: like eight or nine got egged. I don't know if 374 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: it was on Halloween Halloween or not, maybe animals, but 375 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: like our household got egged, and my mom was off 376 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: it because it was summer. Oh yeah, yeah. She was 377 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: not happy even gross, And I was like, ew did 378 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: they cook? 379 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: Like they just they didn't cook. 380 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: They just went hard like they like they like had 381 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: kind of dried onto the walls and stuff, and we 382 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: had like a brick house. 383 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: It was kind of like, yeah, the brick. 384 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just remember mum being like a fair enough Yeah, 385 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: I agree with her. I would be pretty pretty. 386 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: I see yous preferably. 387 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: But also I don't understand the like I understand the 388 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: concept of trick or treating right, really cute, but like 389 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: now I'm a mum. I'm like, am I gonna tell 390 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: Harvey about strange danger? Yeah? Twenty four to seven, like 391 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty four days of the year. I'm like, 392 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: stranger's gotta be careful of them one day of the year. 393 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, so to do is go and knock on 394 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 4: strangers doors while you're dressed up and take whatever candy 395 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: they give you and be grateful for it. 396 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 397 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: True with little kids. 398 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: So I feel like, wait, I don't know how this works, 399 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 4: but my son will not be doing trick or treating 400 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: by himself. 401 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: I mean I have to do. Yes, I. 402 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: Have a job for you. You live in a really 403 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 4: nice estate. I'm going to drop my kid over to 404 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 4: you on Halloween and be like, looks like a you problem. 405 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: It's really good. Our state's quite good because they do 406 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: a map every year. So if you if you're going 407 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: to have candy, so so people who don't want to 408 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: participate don't get knocked on their door all night. So 409 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: if you're going to have stuff for kids, you put 410 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: your name and your address goes on a map, and 411 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: so then they have a map of the estate where 412 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: to go. And usually they'll say, oh, like if you're like, 413 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: if you want that, it's kind of cute and. 414 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: That feels right, That feels a lot safer, and like, 415 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: genuinely you living in a state makes me feel a 416 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: lot safe. It's very community. I live on a main road. 417 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Like, not feeling great about that. 418 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: Perfect utopia. 419 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: Does it's basically gated. 420 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: Broke tip back, Okay, my one is I went through 421 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: and I compared all the prices of like lollies and 422 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 5: stuff like that. So just like a generic one, I'm 423 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 5: going to use the freddo the twelve pack of frettos 424 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 5: for any for example, so in Coals and woolwords six dollars, 425 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 5: reject Shop and Alga five dollars. NQR roughly like two dollars. 426 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: Obviously QR is iconic, but also who cares if it's 427 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 4: running out soon? 428 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. 429 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 5: NQR is so good. I'm assuming there'd be something at. 430 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: Cheap about heaps of them. 431 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 5: There would be some equivalents for other states, but just 432 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 5: have a little look. See I'm not sure if there's 433 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 5: an QR everywhere, but I'm sure you'll find something equivalent, 434 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 5: but yeah, so I recommend all your Holloween shopping go 435 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: to NQR. And even if they're like lollies no one's 436 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 5: ever heard of before, some kids love just like stuff 437 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 5: just their mind, just chuck it in there. 438 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: I feel like lollipops are really good too, because they're 439 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: often come in packs of like fifty sheep wrap and 440 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: they individually wrapped as well. So I feel like stuff 441 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: like that is good. 442 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 4: I haven't done anything. I feel bad, but I'm going 443 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: to get egged good. But I feel like even going 444 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 4: to Kmart and getting the party packs, you know how 445 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: they come in like individually wrapped candy, bracelets and stuff. 446 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: If I was a kid, that's what I want. Yeah, 447 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: on a candy watch something fun. 448 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all the Halloween candy goes on sale 449 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: the day after Halloween, Like he's yes, and you say. 450 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 5: That stopped you? 451 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: What do you got your eye on to purchase this season? 452 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: Just you know the trolley like they do the oh yeah, 453 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: they have like a Halloween like mixed pack, And I 454 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: like them because they're individually wrapped and they're good to 455 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: just like keep in your purse for an afternoon gummy web. 456 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: That's very dope, that's very justic. 457 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: I feel like, in the most non offense, if we 458 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: ever just belongs in Utah, like in the nicest way possible, 459 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: like super wholesome, always has good hair, like wants to 460 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: drink a lot of diet. Coke also wants to celebrate 461 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: all of the holidays with a theme and has like 462 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: a mega mansion that she like dresses up. Yeah, Bubbie 463 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: dreamhouse vipes. Oh, I wish I had a porch to decorate. 464 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: It'd be so porch. See. 465 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 7: She even talks about, No, I'm so happy you guys 466 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 7: supported me this year and finally dressed up for the show. 467 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 7: I'm just wearing a tiara, but we forgot if you 468 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 7: were better organized, Beck, what would you have dressed up as? 469 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: I was meant to be? Ellen Degeneroes. 470 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: I really like that. 471 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: I really like that. 472 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: Sad. 473 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 5: I know I'll try and do it sometime this week. 474 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like her, all right? 475 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: And Jess, what were you going to dress up as? 476 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: Had we actually said yeah, of course we're in we 477 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: definitely were prepared. 478 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: I would have done the classic Britney Spears baby one 479 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: more time because I feel like it's simple enough of 480 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: an outfit that I wouldn't feel crazy walking into the building. 481 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm KHATI the fluffy little you know tabs. 482 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, So I would have recycled my Barbie 483 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 4: fairy Topia costume. 484 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: Does need another excuse to get out, it does? 485 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 4: I would have recycled that. I think it's got a 486 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 4: two to a little like sparkly top. I've got fairy wings, 487 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: there's a tr like. It's just a lot. Unfortunately I 488 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: got rid of the blonde wig, so would have had 489 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: to buy another one. But you know, you get what 490 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: you get. But I bought all of the jewelry for 491 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: that too, like the Barbie fairy Topia necklace, the Barbie 492 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 4: fairy Topia like bracelet. I also had the fairy Oki 493 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: karaoke wings that yes, of course if you'd like to 494 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: borrow them, no worries. They actually it's like a backpack 495 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 4: that you put on and it's plastic fairy wings. 496 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: Did you see them? You would have? You were on 497 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: my birthday picturing? 498 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, like everyone had had a few beveraginos except 499 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: for me because I had found out the day before 500 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: thirtieth birthday that we had that I was pregnant, so 501 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 4: I was drinking fake champagne all night, duping you guys. 502 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: And yeah, it has like an attached wand which is 503 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: actually the microphone and pre like the backpack the middle 504 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: of the fairy wings speaker. 505 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, why did I know that? 506 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: That's cool? 507 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 4: What do you mean you did know that? I was 508 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: dancing and singing all night? This is before morning sickness 509 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: took hold. Right, of course, it was fantastic. Let's go 510 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: to a really quick break on the flip side. We're 511 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: going to talk about what to do when you find 512 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 4: out that your colleague is doing the same job as 513 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: you but getting paid way more, and something that you 514 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 4: lead into our dms about we're chatting about whether you 515 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: should ask your partner to stop going to the bank 516 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: of Mom and dad. Don't go anywhere, guys. 517 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's 518 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: money dilemma. 519 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just 520 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: can't solve. He's on the Money Team is here to help. 521 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: Every week we tackle your dilemmas, both big and small, 522 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: to answer your most burning money, career and life questions. 523 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: To get involved, simply head to our website and leave 524 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: us a short voice recording and you might just find 525 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: yourself on the show. Now, let's take a listen to 526 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: this week's money dilemma. 527 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 8: Hi, she's on the money. Love love, love your work. 528 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 8: I have a question here and would really like your advice. 529 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 8: Our company hire a temporary support staff from our head 530 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 8: office from Europe. After a few months, she decided want 531 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 8: to stay in Australia, so the company sponsor her for 532 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 8: our work visa to work in Australia. So she works 533 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 8: in a very similar role as what I do, like 534 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 8: a project coordinator, project administrators sort of role, do not 535 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 8: really need special skills at all. Lately, I find out 536 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 8: that she's actually getting pay more than double of what 537 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 8: I'm getting paid at the moment, and her work low 538 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 8: is probably only sixty percent of what I'm doing. I 539 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 8: feel really frustrated about this. I want to know, is 540 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 8: this even lego in so many different level Should I 541 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 8: confront my boss about the big pay gap difference or 542 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 8: should I be looking for another job? Thank you? In 543 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 8: that month? 544 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god. When she said, oh, she's. 545 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 4: Being paid more, I was like, oh, I don't know. 546 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've all been there. 547 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: But also like I don't know the context, like, you know, 548 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 4: has she come from overseas with a lot more experience? 549 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: Like yeah, And I'm not trying to justify it because 550 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: that sucks, but I'm assuming life. Like then she gave 551 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 4: us the context and I was like, sorry, girl, what double? 552 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 4: And she's doing less work? 553 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 5: That is so criminal? I think it is criminal. 554 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah it is, but it isn't like 555 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 4: it depends on like their award rates. It depends on 556 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: like the legalities of the industry. 557 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: Is it acceptable? 558 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: No? And that's what we're going to talk about, right, Yes, 559 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: So I want to know what would you guys do, 560 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 4: Beck if you came to work and found out new 561 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 4: person at work was being paid double what you're doing 562 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: less work? 563 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: Okay, what would you do? 564 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: This actually happened recently, but not with me, with someone 565 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 5: someone then you name them Sharon, named them Sharon, yep, 566 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: and then the other person was named Kim for example. 567 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 4: Okay. Great. 568 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: First of all, I just want to say I'm so 569 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: glad that pacey gritsy is no longer a thing anyway. 570 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: But to also just caveat that, you need to be 571 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 4: really careful because while it was abolished, if it is 572 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: still in your employment contract. While not legal, your workplace 573 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 4: might have some type of ramifications for talking about it. 574 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: If you signed a contract that has that in it, 575 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 4: it would be Yeah, that pre dates when pace Chrissy 576 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: was not allowed to be included in your contracts. So 577 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: now I want to talk about pay, and I really 578 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: want to be completely transparent about it, like you guys 579 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: know me well enough by now, But I also don't 580 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 4: want you to get any trouble. Yeah, so I want 581 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: to make sure that you're protected, so know that. But 582 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: also maybe next you know, salary review or like job reviewed, 583 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: be like you need to remove that. Yeah anyway, sorry 584 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: back to you, bet, because I didn't want anyone to 585 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 4: be like, oh, yeah, we can just talk about it. 586 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 5: Sure, that's great. Sorry great, No, no, no, no, but 587 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 5: basically sh Sharon Sharon told Kim that Kim, well, actually, 588 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 5: Kim asked Sharon how much everyone was getting paid because 589 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: they're doing all the exactly literally exact same role. Yeah, 590 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 5: it's the exactly role, the exact same title. And Sharon 591 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: told Kim this, how much we get paid? Kim realized 592 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: she's getting paid twelve k less wow for no absolutely 593 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 5: no reason. Anyway, when the boss has found out that 594 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: Kim knew. Blah blah blah. They went to Sharon. They 595 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: were like, you shouldn't be They're trying to intimidate share it, 596 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 5: to intimidate that disgusting, despicable. I hate it. 597 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: In if yeh y yes about it, I'll give you 598 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: a boss a call and be like, hey, so beg. 599 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: I just was wondering, were you doing this or now? 600 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, And luckily Sharon stuck up for herself and she 601 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 5: was like, basically, I just think that if you don't 602 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 5: have in your contract you are allowed to be talking 603 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 5: about it, then you can shout it from the rooftops. 604 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 5: Because there are people out there who have maybe been 605 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: loyal to a company for so long, absolutely not in 606 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 5: so many different situations and things like that, and they're 607 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 5: getting paid less than everyone else. They don't know about it. 608 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 5: Everyone needs no pay secrecy. 609 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: I don't like it, but hate secrecy only benefits the 610 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: employer exactly, It doesn't benefit anybody. 611 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 5: I completely agree. But to answer our listener's question, should 612 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 5: you confront or look for your job? I say both. 613 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 5: You should definitely you should definitely be confronting and definitely bex. 614 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: Start a riot angry. 615 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: We're not having it. How would you go about that? 616 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 5: Though, I'll be like, well, actually maybe you would find 617 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: a job VERSU secure job. And then when they're like, hey, 618 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 5: oh you're leaving. 619 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: Why you're leaving? 620 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 5: Like, because you guys are so sneaky, everyone knows. 621 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: And I'm going to put this on glass door. I 622 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: was going to say, I just gonna say, put it 623 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: on glass door, put it somewhere like, jess, what would 624 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: you do? The one thing I will say is that 625 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: with the workload thing, I think sometimes you can look 626 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: at a coworker and it's easier, Oh, they seem like 627 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: they do nothing. But unless you're. 628 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: Everyone looks at me that way, they're not wrong. But 629 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 4: everybody does look at me that way. Yes, but unless 630 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: you're like sitting like cyber do you know what I mean? Like, 631 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: I think that it's easy to go, oh, it seems 632 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: like they're doing half my workload, but you don't necessarily know, 633 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: So I don't know that I hard to quantify completely, 634 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: So I don't know that I would build that into 635 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: my argument because I think that sometimes jobs that seem 636 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: like they're not taxing actually have like an overwhlming amount 637 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: of just like tedious things or whatever that you might 638 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: not know that they're dealing with. So I wouldn't build 639 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: that into your argument just because it might be easy 640 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: for them to refute that and say, oh, actually they're 641 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: doing X, Y L, and you go, oh crap, Like 642 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: now I don't stand on completely, but if you're doing 643 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: similar roles, the pay should absolutely be similar. There's really 644 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: no good reason, as you said, outside of maybe historical 645 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: experience or seniority. But even then you kind of go, 646 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: if we're doing the same thing, like, how much does 647 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: that really factor in? I think that I would it 648 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: depends how much you like your job. Really like, if 649 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: you like your job, if you like what you're doing, 650 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: you like your colleagues, then it is worth I think 651 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 4: having the conversation before looking elsewhere and saying, hey, like, 652 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: I've been made aware of this disparity, can you please 653 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: do it to me why that exists? I think giving 654 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: them an opportunity to say, you know, this person maybe 655 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: is managing some of the team back in Europe remotely, 656 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: or this person has ten years more experience than you, 657 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be. And if there's nothing, 658 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: if there's no good reason, which it feels like maybe 659 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: there's a good chance that's the case. You're going to 660 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: catch them out and they're going to be like, ah, 661 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: they are, and you're gonna be like, gotcha, and then 662 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 4: you can kind of, I think, launch into the negotiation 663 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: and be like, this is really unreasonable. If you can't 664 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: give me a reason as to why you're being paid more, 665 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: I don't see any reason that you should not be 666 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: matching ching salary to this. See what they say, hopefully, Oh, 667 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: we're so sorry. You're totally right, We'll sort that out. 668 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: If they don't, that's when I would personally start looking 669 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: front the job, especially if it's like for like like 670 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 4: I get so frustrated. I also feel like I don't 671 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 4: like being super confrontational in these situations because it doesn't 672 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: help you. Like marching into your boss's office and being like, 673 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: what are you doing? Is not a great idea. I 674 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: would actually step back for a hot second, and I'd 675 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: be like, Okay, how long have I been with this organization? 676 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: Let's go back to basics. Let's look at my employment contract. 677 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: Am I fulfilling everything in that contract? Fantastic? What am 678 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: I doing above and beyond that? Because we all know 679 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: if we've been with a company for a couple of years. 680 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: We might be adding a few things here and there, 681 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: or like we might have lost a few responsibilities and 682 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: had them replaced with something else. We want to understand 683 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: whether the job title you have today is still reflective 684 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: of the role that you perform, because it is a 685 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: lot more persuasive to have an argument that's not only 686 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 4: should I get paid more, but also I have been 687 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: thinking I need a role title upgrade and a salary upgrade. 688 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: What are we talking about. I would, then, from my perspective, 689 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: schedule a meeting with your manager and say, hey, I'd 690 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: really like to schedule a meeting to discuss my salary. 691 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: Give them enough notice and say I would love to 692 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: sit down with you at lunchtime on Friday, or a 693 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: two pm on Friday. Actually, definitely a two pm on Friday, 694 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 4: because we don't need to do salary negotiations in our 695 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: lunch break. That is a work conversation. So we're going 696 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: to have our Friday conversation, and then the day before 697 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: or the morning of, you're going to send a really 698 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: nice email to your manager, and that email is going 699 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: to outline everything that you want to talk to them 700 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: about in a really clear, concise way, and you're going 701 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: to deliver it in the nicest possible way, so you're 702 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: going to say, Hi, Beck I just wanted to send 703 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: you an email ahead of our meeting because, as you know, 704 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: I would like to discuss my pay, but I want 705 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: to make sure before this meeting to make sure it's. 706 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: As productive as possible. 707 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: We're on the same page. I would like to let 708 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: you know that I have done some research, so we're 709 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: going to do external research as well. I've looked at 710 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 4: the Hayes Salary Guide. 711 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: I've looked at Glassdoor, I've looked at. 712 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: What seeks remuneration for similar roles are and the role 713 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: that I'm currently doing, it sits at X. Obviously, don't 714 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: use that statistic if it's not going to work for you. 715 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 4: But like I've done some reviews, and in a perfect world, 716 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: that review will say that you're being underpaid. So you 717 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: put that on the table and say so, I would 718 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: really like to discuss my salary in light of this. 719 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: I also would like to discuss the discrepancy between my 720 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: role and another impartployee's role, and I want to have 721 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: a discussion around pay parity in the organization. What does 722 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 4: that look, Like, how can that be remediated? Because right 723 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 4: now I don't feel very engaged. I don't feel like 724 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: I'm being valued, and obviously we all want a really 725 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: nice outcome. Look forward to the conversation because that gets 726 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 4: all your information out before having to go and like 727 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: we're just girls at the end of the day, like 728 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: sitting down and being like, I need to advocate for myself. Like, 729 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. If you can do that, that 730 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: is absolutely fantastic. But you're also giving your boss some 731 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 4: time because often in these situations where there's levels of management, 732 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: it's not your manager who makes that decision. So like 733 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: in my organization, great Jess might come to me about salary, 734 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: I do. 735 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: Call the shots. 736 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: That's the right decision, But like Jess sending an email 737 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: because you know Beck might be her manager, because Beck 738 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 4: then has to go to Meat to advocate for that. 739 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: I'm giving you all of the tools and resources you 740 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: need to advocate for me on my behalf. Does that 741 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 4: make sense? So like if your manager maybe goes, oh yeah, 742 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 4: I just wants to pay increase, what are we going 743 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: to do? Like at least I have put all of 744 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: the information on a page and Beck could forward that 745 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: to my manager and be like, she's got a really 746 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: good point, like this isn't actually acceptable and outlining all 747 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: of that, and at the same time I would be 748 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: looking for another role. I think these conversations are really 749 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: constructive and help us grow, but I also think that 750 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 4: it sounds like they don't value you in the way 751 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: that you deserve to be valued. And just because you've 752 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 4: quote uncovered this and it might be remediated, doesn't mean 753 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 4: that they are going to continue to value you. I 754 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: would find an organization that backs the hell out of you, yes, 755 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: but have this conversation make them pay you more and 756 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 4: than the week after they've done that, leave. 757 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 5: Completely agree sweet sweet revenge, which. 758 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: All that maybe undage. I feel lucky. 759 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 5: Yes, Kim was back paid in my story. 760 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely absolutely back pays another thing to negotiate. So 761 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: I just think it's it's wildly unfair and I hate 762 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: that these things happen, and I'm really sorry, Like I'm 763 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: really sorry that you have to advocate for yourself when 764 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: your management team should be looking at the overall remuneration structures. 765 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: I know that over time things get a little bit off, 766 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: but it's their job to ensure pay parody for lack 767 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 4: for like roles. 768 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally agree. Insane and if you want to 769 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: leave us a money dilemma. By the way, we've had 770 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: a few people dming us recently, being like, hey, go 771 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: to our website, She's the money to talk to you, and 772 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: then there's a podcast page. Go to that and you 773 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: can literally drop your voice notes straight there. 774 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can record on your phone, you can record 775 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 4: on your desktop. It's a ten out of ten idea. 776 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: You can also leave love notes there, so you can 777 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 4: just leave us little voice memos, which some people do 778 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 4: when we find really fun. 779 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 780 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 4: Would you guys like to get to the DM that 781 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: we got this week? 782 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 783 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 4: Oh I've been waiting for this one because I feel 784 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 4: like we've got thoughts, you know. So this week where 785 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: we received a DM, they said, hey, she's on the money. 786 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: I have a money dilemma. I grew up very poor, 787 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: coming from government housing where money was scarce, and I 788 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 4: never asked for money as a kid or even now, 789 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 4: because I know money is a struggle. My partner grew 790 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 4: up wealthy and got what he asked for whenever he wanted. 791 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 4: Is it fair for me to ask him to stop 792 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 4: asking his parents for financial help. I feel he doesn't 793 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: value money and doesn't understand how to work and save 794 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 4: for the things he wants. He continuously goes straight for 795 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: the bank of his parents when he wants something. It 796 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 4: is never for needs. I can't tell if it is 797 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 4: a red flag or if my jealousy is just showing 798 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 4: up through him. I like that you're thinking about you know, 799 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 4: am I just envious about this situation? We are fair, 800 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 4: it's not. It's not you being envious. I think in 801 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 4: this situation, wanting people to value money, especially if you're 802 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 4: in a relationship together and you're building a life together, 803 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 4: think is a very big shared value set validating you there. No, 804 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 4: it's not envy. Yeah, like I'm a little bit jealous 805 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 4: if someone was just going to give me free money, 806 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 4: I get it. 807 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: But this is a bit deeper than that. 808 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. It really does sound like me and 809 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 5: my best friend lives so week because we do grow 810 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 5: up completely differently. She came from a very wealthy family 811 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 5: and they did work very hard for their wealth, and 812 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 5: I grew up not so well off. But we're both 813 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 5: like exactly the same, and so I think living with her, 814 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 5: we lived in there for a few years, and there 815 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: were definitely moments where I was like, oh, it's it 816 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 5: kind of like hurts a little bit in my belly 817 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 5: to see that she might be given opportunities that I 818 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 5: might not. 819 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 4: That would have been challenging with such a close friend. 820 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 5: It is, but it's also like I also tend to 821 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 5: remind myself that, like we we are exactly the same. 822 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 5: But I'm very very grateful for my upbringing. I'm very 823 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 5: very grateful for everything that led me here, and if 824 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 5: even one tiny thing changed, and I wouldn't be exactly 825 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 5: why I am today, And I quite like exactly. I 826 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 5: love that you know what I mean much back and 827 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 5: so and but it is still it's nice to have, 828 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 5: like a little bit I know that if something went wrong, 829 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 5: Hopefully it's the same for a listener, if something really 830 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 5: really went wrong, you do kind of have access to that. Hopefully. 831 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 5: I can imagine that if you're in that situation, it's 832 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 5: nice to know it's there. But I do understand the 833 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 5: feeling of being like, wow, like I've got to work 834 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 5: for this and you can kind of just ask for 835 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 5: it and you kind of get it. 836 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: That does suck. 837 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 5: But honestly, if you're trying to teach you know, financial 838 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 5: resilience and things like that. I can I can understand 839 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 5: why you maybe want to get your partner to not 840 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,479 Speaker 5: do that as much. 841 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 6: But I think it's okay that like really bad, Like, 842 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 6: I think it's fine, but it isn't a valuable thing 843 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 6: to learn, like the resilience and independence financially and stuff 844 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 6: like that. 845 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think that either of them is wrong. Like, 846 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 2: I understand that it's very frustrating if you and your 847 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: partner have different perspectives on money and handling that, and 848 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 2: if you're e'en like you're obviously both by products the 849 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: environments that you grew up in. And I can see 850 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: how for someone who's had to work really hard for everything, 851 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: seeing someone just be handed something would be frustrating. And 852 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: you I can understand being like, well, you're not going 853 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 2: to learn because you're just being bailed out every time. 854 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: But that being said, like, I don't think I think 855 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: I've said this before, I don't necessarily think it's reasonable 856 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: to expect your partner to change fundamental things about themselves 857 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: and fundamental things about their upbringing. I think that it's 858 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 2: absolutely worthy of a conversation and saying, hey, like, I 859 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: feel like you're not respecting the goals as much as 860 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: I am because you're not prioritizing them. You're spending on 861 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: other things and then hoping that your family will bail 862 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: them out. I think that that's a very valid conversation 863 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: to have, But you also need to recognize that the 864 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: case might just be that you have different value sets 865 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: and different experiences with money, and that they may be 866 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: too different for you to be able to operate together 867 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: because ultimately, like you're hopefully assuming you want to follow 868 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 2: a traditional you know, trajectory, going to be your partner 869 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: for the rest of your life, and it may be 870 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: that that's not something that they can or want to 871 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: change about themselves. And on the flip side, I feel like, 872 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: if their parents are in a wealthy enough position that 873 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 2: they can help them out financially, don't we all really 874 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: want to build generational wealth so that we can look 875 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 2: after our future generations. Where I was going to go 876 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 2: with it, like if I worked really hard and I'm 877 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 2: a multimillionaire. From my mouth to God's lips, you know, 878 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: this is why. 879 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 4: She's just been trying to kiss up. 880 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 2: You want to make out with him? He hasn't been 881 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 2: listening to me, you know, Like if I found myself 882 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: in the position where I was wealthy, of course I 883 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: would want to support my children and give them every 884 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: opportunity and whatever. So I can't really fault your partner 885 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: or their family for being in that position. I think 886 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: what we really have to do is reflect on is 887 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: this going to be something that's going to bother you 888 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: long term? Because you may not be able to reconcile 889 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 2: the difference, do you know what I mean? I think 890 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: that you're both in the right and honestly, like I 891 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: grew up in a less prosperous household, and like I 892 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: would be the same, Like I would be pissed off 893 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 2: that if someone was not putting in the hard yard 894 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: then I felt like I was, like, I fully get that, 895 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: but I also think that you can't necessarily expect that 896 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 2: to change, Like I don't know that. I think that 897 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: that's a reasonable level of expectation. Does that make exact 898 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: I think I'm contradicting. No, I totally get it. I 899 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: think looking at it from the flip side, we all 900 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: want the best for our kids, right, Like and if 901 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: his parents, I don't know, I look at myself, right, 902 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 2: Like gift giving is a love language of mine, Like 903 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: I love it. I bring gifts for the team, I 904 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 2: bring gifts for my friends, like you best believe, Like 905 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 2: my baby he needs something and I have the ability 906 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: to get it for him. Not only do I want to, 907 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: but it gives me a deep sense of validation to 908 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: go I did that, Like, yeah, I got that, Like 909 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I feel as though maybe 910 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 2: his parents have like look at it, right, Like, let's 911 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 2: take your situation, Jesse. 912 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 4: You said I didn't grow up in a prosperous environment. 913 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 4: If you then had kids and you were super prosperous, 914 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 4: you often find that the parents who grew up with 915 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 4: not much then want to give their kids absolutely everything, 916 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 4: and they're probably getting a lot of validation from it. 917 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: So he might have just grown up with this situation 918 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 4: of being like, oh I really want this, and mom 919 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 4: and dad being like, girl, oh boy, whatever, you can 920 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 4: have it. Like all he has to do is message 921 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 4: his parents and he's got it. Like that's fantastic. But 922 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 4: we also I get the NB side of it, like 923 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 4: if that exists, but I think it's also fair to 924 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 4: go we're not on the same page. Financially, and that's 925 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 4: where we need to zoom out. If that's part of 926 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 4: his money story, fine, let's sweep that to the side 927 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 4: for a minute. What are we working to wards together? 928 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 4: Are you saying that your partner right now just spends 929 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 4: his money really frivolously and then just asks his parents 930 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 4: for heaps of stuff and doesn't have a heap of savings, 931 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 4: but you have a heap of savings and you're trying 932 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 4: to save for a house and he says he's in, 933 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 4: but he's not really in because he's spending all his 934 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 4: money and seems to have the bank of Mum and 935 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 4: Dad backing up his spending behavior. Is that what you're saying, 936 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 4: or are you saying he's saving, he's investing, and you 937 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 4: know we're working towards this really secure financial future together. 938 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 4: I'm compromising a lot. I'm not getting all these things 939 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 4: that I want. He's saving all his money and just 940 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 4: texts his mum when he wants a new PlayStation, right, Like, 941 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 4: so he's not having to dip into savings and have 942 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: that level of compromise that you've got. Yeah, does that 943 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 4: make sense? So like that would annoy me too and 944 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 4: be like he's so unfair, Like I'm compromising, and you know, 945 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I'm not buying the 946 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 4: makeup and the shoes and the clothes that I want 947 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 4: because I'm trying to save for this house and he's 948 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 4: doing the same thing and saving. But then he's just 949 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 4: asking his mum for the stuff. Yeah, Like, oh, okay, 950 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 4: you need to have a conversation about this. And this 951 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 4: is about not only under standing each other's money stories, 952 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 4: but your shared values and what you're working towards together 953 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 4: and what that's going to look like. So is it 954 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 4: bad that he's using the bank of Mum and Dad. 955 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 4: I don't think so. And the reason I don't think 956 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 4: so is you never deeply know somebody else's money story. 957 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 4: And also, who are you to judge? Like, if you 958 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 4: could do that too, I'm sure you would. I live 959 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 4: in a world where I didn't grow up super rich. 960 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 4: My parents couldn't give me all of those things either. 961 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 4: I love everything that they did, but we weren't super wealthy. 962 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 4: On the flip side, I'm now starting to make more 963 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 4: money than I ever have before, and I'm trying to 964 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 4: balance this, Like I don't want my kid to be spoilt, 965 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 4: but I also want to make sure that he has 966 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 4: all of the things that I think he needs and deserves. 967 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 4: And so I am thinking, what do I do do 968 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 4: I invest for his future when he gets to eighteen? 969 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 4: Would I want him having access to money? The answer 970 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 4: actually between and Steve and I is no, we want 971 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: him to be older than that. But I know that 972 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 4: the world is a really tough place to live right now, 973 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 4: and I would like to be contributing towards a first 974 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 4: home deposit for him in the future. And I want 975 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 4: to do that for my other kids, And like, how 976 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 4: do I establish that so by the time, you know, 977 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 4: my son gets to the age where he's buying property. 978 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 4: I love that we could help, but I know that 979 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 4: that's not what his You know, lots of his friends 980 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 4: might be experiencing, or his partner might be experiencing. That 981 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that it's the wrong thing for us to do. 982 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: And as his parent, if my son then had a 983 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: partner that said you need to stop that, I'd be like, oh, 984 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 4: I worked really hard to be able to give him this. 985 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 4: I worked really hard, and that was like my mission 986 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 4: and my driving force, And now you're telling me that 987 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 4: I can't give my son the things that I want 988 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 4: to give him. Does that make sense? And like, it 989 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. Like, just because I'm saying 990 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 4: that it can still happen doesn't mean it's not frustrating, 991 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 4: Like from the outside, Like you can be annoyed and beck, 992 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: you can look at your friend and be like, that's 993 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 4: so annoying. But then I think you know, if you 994 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 4: sat down with your friend's parents and said, like, oh, 995 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 4: why do you just give her stuff, they'd probably be like, 996 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 4: We're so proud to be able to do that, Like 997 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 4: it's so cool. 998 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 2: We worked so hard. 999 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 4: Like they might tell you stories about how they grew up, 1000 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 4: and you know, maybe they've lost some businesses along the 1001 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 4: way and then they did a new business and something 1002 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 4: finally worked, and like everyone has this narrative and their 1003 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 4: story that you don't know about. So I don't think 1004 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 4: it's fair to judge it. But I also think it's 1005 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 4: fair to have a conversation and say to your partner, 1006 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 4: I'm feeling really uncomfortable about this, yeah, and that's fair. 1007 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 4: Telling him to stop is a different conversation than going, hey, 1008 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: i'm noticing that you're doing this a lot. Can we 1009 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 4: talk about it? Like I feel real weird about it. Yeah, 1010 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 4: Like have you always done this? 1011 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1012 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 4: Like what does this mean? 1013 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: Like how do you value money? What are you going 1014 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 2: to do if your parents maybe aren't around one day? Yeah, 1015 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: And because they can understand the fear that poor money 1016 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: habits now might meet in the future when there's not 1017 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: someone there to support you. You you could go, oh God, 1018 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 2: what's going to happen if. 1019 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 4: What's your plan for the future, Like your parents are 1020 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 4: doing this for you, how are you planning on setting 1021 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 4: up the same structure so that you can do that 1022 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 4: for your kids? 1023 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1024 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 4: Like is that the plan? 1025 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. 1026 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of money stories conversation, but 1027 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 4: shared values and beliefs conversations that need to happen before 1028 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 4: you go, hey, I don't like that you go to 1029 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 4: the bank of mom and dad. 1030 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 5: Sure, sometimes what you need is just validation, just someone 1031 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 5: to be like, hey, I know I do this, and 1032 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 5: I know that you could never and you don't have 1033 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 5: access to that, but and I see that nothing's going 1034 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 5: to change. But I see that, and that's like that's 1035 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 5: enough sometimes to be like thanks, I'm going to keep 1036 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 5: on keep an ony. 1037 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1038 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 4: But like also a rising tide lift soulships. So like, 1039 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 4: if I'm doing well, hopefully the people around me are 1040 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 4: then learning and benefiting from the fact that I'm doing 1041 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 4: well and we can all rise together, Like I don't 1042 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 4: want to rise if nobody else is ill, and what 1043 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 4: everybody else say? We obviously asked a few questions, and 1044 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: we said, is it a red flag for you if 1045 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 4: your partner relies on their family for their wants? And 1046 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 4: seventy four percent of you said, yep, feels like a dependency, 1047 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 4: and twenty six percent of you said nope. Family help 1048 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 4: is fine if it's available. Fair. Fair. We also asked, 1049 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 4: would you ask your partner to stop relying on their parents? 1050 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 4: Sixty percent of you said definitely, because it builds character, 1051 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 4: and forty percent of you said nope. Their finances their choices. 1052 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 2: I think once you start working towards shared goals, it's 1053 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 2: definitely more valid because their finances are impacting your finances. 1054 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah that I agree with that, Yeah, one hundred percent. 1055 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 4: And like that's the conversation at hand, Like how does 1056 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 4: this play into an US situation? Like you're not asking 1057 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 4: his parents to buy you stuff, but you're just going, well, 1058 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 4: what does this mean? Long term, sure, like, how is 1059 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 4: this impacting our financial goals? We also said, come on, 1060 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 4: give us your two cents where you want to know. 1061 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on this. One person said, parents 1062 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 4: love language. Maybe gift giving, which is quite funny, That's 1063 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 4: what I said, maybe the one thing of the few 1064 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 4: things they feel they can do now their kids are adults. 1065 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 4: Someone else said focus on your own mindset rather than 1066 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 4: your partners. Another person said, my concern would be that 1067 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 4: he has not matured and is irresponsible with money, not 1068 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 4: a grown man trait that I want. I think that's good, 1069 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 4: but also have we asked him? Yeah, right, Like I 1070 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 4: get that you feel that might be irresponsible. And I'm 1071 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: not even trying to defend him. I'm just trying to 1072 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 4: see it from the flip side. But you might see 1073 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 4: that as irresponsible, and he might go, oh, we've only 1074 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 4: been together for like a year. I haven't really told you. 1075 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 4: But I invest and I save everything. A mum and 1076 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 4: dad know that I work really hard in the background, 1077 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 4: and they're like real proud of that. So like, if 1078 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 4: I want something, they don't want me spending my investments, 1079 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 4: so they just buy it. Yeah, And you'd be like, oh, 1080 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 4: that's a different story, and I'm not saying it makes 1081 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 4: it right or wrong. It doesn't. That would also annoy me. 1082 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh, I'm so frustrated, Like I wish 1083 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 4: I had that, but yeah, it's just there's lots of 1084 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:53,959 Speaker 4: different things floating around. 1085 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1086 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 4: Someone said, girl, that's called intergenerational wealth. 1087 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1088 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 4: Someone else said, in this economy, all the help you 1089 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 4: can get, honestly fair, Like, if your partner was getting 1090 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 4: gifted stuff, you'd be like, yep, slate, no worries. 1091 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 2: If someone had the ability to do that for me, like, 1092 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: I'd be back pass right please. 1093 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 4: Someone else said, I feel like you could just have 1094 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 4: an open conversation about it with them. Then it's true, 1095 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 4: more conversations about money more often, please. Yeah. Someone else said, 1096 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 4: I'd feel the same as you, but it also doesn't 1097 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 4: affect you. 1098 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: So maybe your values just done aligne. It's a hard conversation, 1099 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 2: but it's one that you have to have. 1100 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 4: And then somebody else said, I would suggest having a 1101 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 4: chat with a therapist because you might have developed a 1102 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 4: scarcity relationship with money. 1103 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: Wow, it's very cerebral but true. Yeah, that's true. 1104 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 4: It's true. I feel like that's probably a good place 1105 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 4: to leave it. I feel like always talking about it. 1106 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 4: I mean you could even talk to like a girlfriend 1107 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 4: about it, or just having chats about money in general 1108 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 4: is really good. Like really, we all come out of 1109 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 4: it feeling fresher, like you were saying before, even just 1110 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 4: someone being like, oh, I'm doing this, but like I 1111 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 4: acknowledge that, Like Becky, you're not in that position right now, 1112 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 4: You're oh, thanks, Like at least I feel like sometimes 1113 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 4: when we talk about money, there's an underlying tone of like, 1114 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 4: I think everyone should X y Z, Like, oh, I'm 1115 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 4: buying my first home. You're like, I'm not in a 1116 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 4: position to buy my first home. Does the person I'm 1117 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 4: talking to think that I should be doing that because 1118 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 4: like I haven't saved for that, Like what do I do? 1119 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 4: And I think that, Yes, sometimes just acknowledging that everyone 1120 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 4: is in the same position can be really constructive. 1121 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. You wouldn't believe it. Sometimes 1122 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 5: the answer is communication. 1123 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 4: Well I didn't see that. That's crazy. That is a 1124 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 4: perfect place to leave it. Thank you for joining us 1125 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 4: for our not that spooky episode of Friday's She's on 1126 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 4: the Money. 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