Speaker 1: Can I, Peter Hell, are you here? Welcome to You
Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing yet?
Speaker 2: The movie podcast where I chat to a movie lover
Speaker 2: about a classic or beloved movie they haven't quite got
Speaker 2: around to watching until now. And today's guest comedian podcaster
Speaker 2: Josh Earl, You're gonna have to figure that out for yourself.
Speaker 3: I didn't get a harrang fut of that guy to
Speaker 3: govern Hurrah.
Speaker 4: I know it was you afraid of You broke my
Speaker 4: heart right now?
Speaker 5: You're seeing nothing here.
Speaker 2: Josh Earl is one of the most loved and respected
Speaker 2: comics on the Melbourne, An Australian comedy scene today. Abundantly talented, Yes,
Speaker 2: Josh is one of those comics who.
Speaker 5: Could have actually had a musical career.
Speaker 1: Josh is an ideas guy.
Speaker 2: His show, Josh Earl Versus The Australian Woman's Weekly Cakebook
Speaker 2: was one of those shows that there seems to endlessly
Speaker 2: tour and tour and tour. Josh has appeared on all
Speaker 2: the radio stations, done on the TV shows, and he
Speaker 2: was actually chosen for the coveted gig of replacing Adam
Speaker 2: Hills in the rebooted Spits and Specs back in twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: but arguably it's been a show of Josh's own creation
Speaker 2: that has seen him enjoying much acclaim. In more recent time,
Speaker 2: his podcast Don't You Know Who I Am? Is a
Speaker 2: cracking game show that has seen his fan base go
Speaker 2: through the roof. I have done the show many times,
Speaker 2: including live versions of the show and of his heaps
Speaker 2: of fun.
Speaker 1: Go and check it out.
Speaker 2: Josh Earl's modest, kind, funny, innovative, and I'm bloody stoked
Speaker 2: to be hanging with him today.
Speaker 5: My name is Josh Earl. My three favorite films are
Speaker 5: Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind, my book Magnolia, That's
Speaker 5: the first time You've been Rape and Jackass.
Speaker 1: I'm Great England and this is a firehouse.
Speaker 5: Rodeo, and I have never seen The Taking of Pelham
Speaker 5: or one two three.
Speaker 2: Long before Quentin Tarantino's Mister Pink and Co. Went on
Speaker 2: their bloody heist, there was another color coded gang of
Speaker 2: band that's taking down a train in Joseph sargus nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four classic The Taking of Pellam one two three
Speaker 2: water map ol Zachary Garba is a cop who thinks
Speaker 2: he's in for a pretty straightforward day just shows some
Speaker 2: Japanese visitors around the station, but all that changes with
Speaker 2: a call from an English gent claiming to have hijacked
Speaker 2: subway train, played by Robert Shaw. The Taking of Pellam
Speaker 2: one two three, which is rebooted in two thousand and
Speaker 2: nine with Denzel Washington and John Travolda, is a tense
Speaker 2: joy ride. If being hijacked by some sociopaths brings you joy,
Speaker 2: I guess, Joshua, do you look good in fake mustache
Speaker 2: as glasses in the tresh coat?
Speaker 5: Ah? I loved it. I would love to just rock
Speaker 5: around in a trench coat, some glasses, fake mustache, sneezing
Speaker 5: it off all the time.
Speaker 2: Lots of things to discussed about this film. It's a
Speaker 2: film that I had not seen. I was aware of it.
Speaker 1: And that.
Speaker 2: Is an Apple series. I'm oversure what one of these,
Speaker 2: but it is. Listening to our conversation, there is now
Speaker 2: two guests on you Ain't seen nothing yet? What movie
Speaker 2: were they talking about? James McAvoy was in it.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm not built as number one guest, though,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be very annoyed series coming in. She's
Speaker 5: built first.
Speaker 1: There's a first for everything, and then he's the first
Speaker 1: we will get to. We'll get their three favorite films soon.
Speaker 1: I think I was trying to tell us which one
Speaker 1: I heard James McAvoy before I realized what was going on.
Speaker 1: But why did you choose this one?
Speaker 5: I've been told so Alexi Tollioppolois, who's a friend of mine,
Speaker 5: who's a big film buff. He was saying his favorite
Speaker 5: actor is Walter Matthau, and he's said his favorite performance
Speaker 5: of his is the taking of Pelm one two three,
Speaker 5: And I'd never i'd heard of the I think I've
Speaker 5: seen parts of the remake with the Denzel Washington John
Speaker 5: Travolta when it was on TV once, but I didn't
Speaker 5: really watch it and said, all right, one day, I'll
Speaker 5: get to watching it. And so when you gave me
Speaker 5: this opportunity, I want, there's no better time. Let's let's
Speaker 5: let's watch this film. It's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was a bit the same way. I don't
Speaker 2: think i'd seen any of it. In fact, when I
Speaker 2: spoke with Derek about it last week, I was like,
Speaker 2: I think it might involve the train, and then when
Speaker 2: it was confirmed it wasn't the trainer of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know a little bit about.
Speaker 2: This, and I'm a big Walter Matthau fan, but probably
Speaker 2: more through the odd couples I hadn't, you know, really
Speaker 2: probably seen a lot of his cinema work.
Speaker 1: But what I knew as.
Speaker 5: The neighbor in Dennis the Menace. That was my first
Speaker 5: which is probably not one of his classic roles, but
Speaker 5: people know it.
Speaker 2: No that Dennis the Menace hasn't come up as anyone's
Speaker 2: three favorite films.
Speaker 1: But what what a what a face he has at
Speaker 1: hound Dog face is just gold.
Speaker 5: Oh, if you like old faces, this is the film
Speaker 5: for you. There's a lot of It was when actors
Speaker 5: could just be expressive. People didn't have any like movie
Speaker 5: star good looks. I know in the seventies they were
Speaker 5: like Robert Redford and all that. It was just, you know,
Speaker 5: amazingly good looking man. But this is just a film
Speaker 5: full of hard work and actors just like expressing their
Speaker 5: emotions and being cool. It's really cool.
Speaker 1: I completely agree.
Speaker 2: And I shouted them Melissaly Young about when Harry met Sally,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of saying, if they've made that,
Speaker 2: if they remade that like Billy Crystal or even the
Speaker 2: equivalent of Billy Crystal's not getting that role today.
Speaker 1: It's probably it is probably Ryan Gosling. So I think
Speaker 1: we should celebrate.
Speaker 2: We should celebrate where you know, faces in interesting faces
Speaker 2: get rewarded.
Speaker 1: And this is a film You're right if you like,
Speaker 1: if you like old dudes, this is a film for you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm not sure if saying yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to see more films if old white dudes is a
Speaker 1: popular thing at the moment. But I think I'm know
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Josh.
Speaker 5: Hey, they've had a rough work three years, now do reckon?
Speaker 1: Three years?
Speaker 5: Are tough?
Speaker 2: It that has dragged done a bit, hasn't it. You
Speaker 2: have chosen a couple of films that have been nominated
Speaker 2: before and one that hasn't. Let's start with the one
Speaker 2: that hasn't.
Speaker 1: Jackass. It hasn't been nominated, but what fun it is.
Speaker 5: I don't think I've laughed as much in a cinema
Speaker 5: as this. I remember watching it. I was still living
Speaker 5: in lon Ceston, so don't I can't remember when it
Speaker 5: came out, would have been like two thousand and one
Speaker 5: hour or something like that. I fell out of my
Speaker 5: seat in the cinema laughing. It was the pack cinema,
Speaker 5: and it was one of the dumb scenes where Steve
Speaker 5: O jumped into a ceiling fan that and I don't
Speaker 5: know if it was just the build up of everything
Speaker 5: being so funny that that moment just got me and
Speaker 5: I fell out of my seat laughing so much. And
Speaker 5: I remember it was a pack cinema, and that I
Speaker 5: watched the sequel in another cinema and I was the
Speaker 5: only person in that cinema. So it was a real,
Speaker 5: real yearning hag of Jackass.
Speaker 1: There is something about Jackass when I think of it,
Speaker 1: it feels like it should be watched with a group
Speaker 1: of friends. So being in a cinema watching it for yourself,
Speaker 1: it must have felt like a strange experience.
Speaker 5: It was, and I didn't enjoy Jackass two as much,
Speaker 5: but then i've watched it recently. No, No, it still
Speaker 5: holds up. This is one thing of those guys you
Speaker 5: think of all the like comedies, you think, oh, jack
Speaker 5: will probably be canceled. No, it's because it's just slapstick
Speaker 5: and it's just them making fun of each other and
Speaker 5: it's about that dumb male friendship. I think it still
Speaker 5: holds up. There are some scenes where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 5: going to Japan and being dumb in front of Japanese people.
Speaker 5: Probably you probably wouldn't do that today, but the majority
Speaker 5: of it, like ninety five percent would go, yeah, that
Speaker 5: that's still flies today. It's still funny. It's just people
Speaker 5: getting hit the nuts, which is always funny.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, it's not like you know,
Speaker 2: hitting people in the nuts or or doing stupid things
Speaker 2: online and on you know, on socials. It's not like
Speaker 2: that's a rare thing like it seems. It seems Jacks
Speaker 2: seems more zeitgeisty now than it probably did twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like they've probably like there's a whole thing
Speaker 5: of YouTube, which is their origin story is watching jack
Speaker 5: Us and going yeah, I could do that. Let's get
Speaker 5: on the roof and jump off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Prank's pre hashtag. Yeah, I love it. And
Speaker 1: Jody Knutsville.
Speaker 2: I remember hing coming out and doing Rogue Live a
Speaker 2: couple of times and come of remember thinking, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what to expect.
Speaker 1: Just turns out quite a lovely dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they all seem very I mean there's a
Speaker 5: few of them who I think bam Mageria has had
Speaker 5: a bit of substance abuse issues, and he's kicked off
Speaker 5: the fourth film because it's apparently coming out very soon.
Speaker 5: But the rest of them seem like pretty decent guys.
Speaker 5: I mean, I say that now someone's gonna send me
Speaker 5: a Twitter just so you know, if this person did this,
Speaker 5: I'm all right. Well, just judging on their on their
Speaker 5: interviews and stuff like that, they actually seem to really
Speaker 5: care for each other and that thing you don't see
Speaker 5: that in like a lot of male friendship groups in media,
Speaker 5: that they're you know, they really got each other's back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting pretty old soon now. So I imagine
Speaker 1: if there's a reboot of the Taking of pell of one, two, three,
Speaker 1: the Jackass boys would be right in the zone. So
Speaker 1: when when Jackass four comes out, how are you? How
Speaker 1: are you approach it? How you watch it?
Speaker 5: I have already made plans hopefully we can travel and
Speaker 5: I'm going up to watch it with Alexi Toleoppolos and
Speaker 5: Cameron James in the cinema. I'm flying to Sydney to
Speaker 5: watch it and then flying back that day. I like
Speaker 5: my wife has said, yeah, if you want to do that,
Speaker 5: that's fine. We could do that, and so I am
Speaker 5: gonna just o day trip and then come back.
Speaker 1: That is one of my favorite what are you going
Speaker 1: to do when we're out of Lockdown stories? I've heard?
Speaker 1: I wish you all the best of that.
Speaker 5: So fingers crossed, fingers cross, the numbers go down.
Speaker 1: Two magnificent films make up your trifecta.
Speaker 2: Magnolia has come up before, as was Mith Warhurst one
Speaker 2: of her favorite films. It is very high in mine
Speaker 2: in my favorite films of all time is a film
Speaker 2: for me I have watched a lot, which is which
Speaker 2: considering it's running time of over three hours is And
Speaker 2: it's also a film that literally like two nights ago,
Speaker 2: and I do it quite often if I if I
Speaker 2: go to bed and beach already a sleep, I would
Speaker 2: just like turn it on for half an hour at
Speaker 2: the time I put a love half an hour at
Speaker 2: any point in the film and this you know, watch
Speaker 2: it and eventually go to sleep. But I love it
Speaker 2: so much. Did you see it when it came out
Speaker 2: or you discovered it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, I saw it when I came out. So it
Speaker 5: was ninety nine and I was first year UNI doing
Speaker 5: a theater degree and around people who acting was everything
Speaker 5: Like I, you know, I enjoyed it, but there was
Speaker 5: guys in who's like the Oscars was their AFL Grand Final,
Speaker 5: and so my friend Corey was like obsessed with Paul
Speaker 5: Thomas Anderson and was like, You've got to watch this film.
Speaker 5: It's going to be amazing. And then I watched it.
Speaker 5: I was like, I reckon everyone's great in it, but
Speaker 5: I reckon four or five of the cast it's their
Speaker 5: greatest performance. I think Tom Cruise's performance in it is
Speaker 5: so great. And I'm not a big Tom Cruise fan,
Speaker 5: but I think he should play more roles where he
Speaker 5: is that kind of unhinged sociopath because he plays it
Speaker 5: so well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially since jumping on the couch will kind of
Speaker 5: change what they think of him anyway, So yeah, I
Speaker 5: can see him being a bit of a sociopath.
Speaker 1: Well, and we've spoken before.
Speaker 2: We did Top Gun with Tony Martin on the show,
Speaker 2: and we kind of spoke about how it was kind
Speaker 2: of like the birth Top Gun was the birth of
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise because he kind of discovered that that cockiness
Speaker 2: kind of he played with it in Risky Business and
Speaker 2: then in Top Gun it kind of explodes, and I
Speaker 2: think he found what really works for him, that confidence
Speaker 2: on it, and it probably took until Magnolia and maybe
Speaker 2: you know, even Tropic Thunder for him to kind of go,
Speaker 2: how else can this work for me? Like, what are
Speaker 2: some other leaders I can pull still being the brash
Speaker 2: and confident, you know, go get her? But how what
Speaker 2: are some other you know, levels of that? And I
Speaker 2: think absolutely right Magnolia. His performance in Magnolia is just
Speaker 2: I think still his best one. I mean that interview,
Speaker 2: that sit down interview he does, and that is just
Speaker 2: you know, people talk about, I mean things as good
Speaker 2: as de Niro and Pacino and heat kind of sit
Speaker 2: down Yeah, I love I love sit down talking scenes.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a lot of the reason why it's
Speaker 2: a date, you know, And and that.
Speaker 1: Is as good as anything.
Speaker 2: I mean Tom Cruise when he's not speaking, which is
Speaker 2: often to Tom Cruise like to speak a lot in
Speaker 2: these films. You know, he's dialogue heavy, but he's listening
Speaker 2: in that is and he's quite seething.
Speaker 1: Is phenomenal. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And Julian Moore as well, is also that her performances
Speaker 5: that film are just incredible as well. So it's yeah,
Speaker 5: and John c Right. So many of them are so
Speaker 5: great in that film, and it's one of those films
Speaker 5: where I watched it and go, oh, yeah, this is
Speaker 5: because I have this theory that acting, of all the arts,
Speaker 5: is probably the easiest to do, like film acting, because
Speaker 5: you get you don't have to write it, someone else
Speaker 5: will tell you how to stand, address you, and if
Speaker 5: you muck up, you get to go again. But this
Speaker 5: one is like, I know, hats off that these are
Speaker 5: actual great actors.
Speaker 1: I know, I've follow that chapter going.
Speaker 2: You know, acting is not as not as tough as
Speaker 2: they say, but basically, whenever I act, I'm playing a
Speaker 2: character not particularly far removed from myself. Like so when
Speaker 2: you see actors disappear into roles, you kind of go ah,
Speaker 2: that's actually yeah the watermark, and you know that's what
Speaker 2: real acting is, or or high quality acting, not kind
Speaker 2: of playing versions of yourself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because my thing was acting was on the runs
Speaker 5: of like arts, actors were the easiest, but directing and
Speaker 5: making a great film with bit the hardest because you've
Speaker 5: got so many outside like not many other arts do
Speaker 5: you have to rely on whether.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, well and and so many things have to
Speaker 6: come to pass to make for a film to work,
Speaker 6: like even to the point like from the from the
Speaker 6: script to the handing over.
Speaker 2: To a director, to the casting to the locations of
Speaker 2: finding the right locations too. Yeah, the budget that what
Speaker 2: you decide to drop, what you decide to you know
Speaker 2: is important, you know, do you need pick up you
Speaker 2: know pickups?
Speaker 5: And he recently is watching watching White Loatus, going would
Speaker 5: this be as great if the if the soundtrack wasn't
Speaker 5: as great like that like White Like I don't know
Speaker 5: if you've seen White Loaders. The soundtrack is what drove
Speaker 5: that for me. I was like, I just want to
Speaker 5: watch like this so I can hear the soundtrack. And
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if it didn't have that soundtrack, if it
Speaker 5: would just be like, oh, this is kind of an
Speaker 5: interesting story about some people on a holiday, okay, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And there's there's those moments in White Lotus
Speaker 1: where you get to you know, as the last act,
Speaker 1: and those it just it feels it doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: completely different than moments of Magnolia, to be honest, where
Speaker 1: you are just the music is driving.
Speaker 2: I mean, Magnolia has almost whole songs you know that
Speaker 2: play throughout or score that lasts, you know, like twenty
Speaker 2: minutes or so. That run through it is it is stagnant,
Speaker 2: but it just and you just cut from like almost
Speaker 2: not even cut. Sometimes sometimes you actually became removed to it,
Speaker 2: from table to table to see characters, you know, catching
Speaker 2: up with where characters are, what the family's doing. White Loads,
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it, is fantastic. One of my
Speaker 2: favorite performances in Magnolia is I think her name is
Speaker 2: Malaura Waters, but she's the daughter of Jimmy Gator in
Speaker 2: in Magnolia.
Speaker 5: And who's the quiz show host.
Speaker 1: The quiz show host, yes, and who's dying of cancer,
Speaker 1: and he has been accused of abuse as well. And
Speaker 1: the Malora Waters is just so phenomenal.
Speaker 2: And she she's also you know, John c Riley's trying
Speaker 2: to take around on the date and they do, but
Speaker 2: it's complicated. And I think that last shot where she
Speaker 2: just gives that little smile at the end, that whole scene,
Speaker 2: I mean, talk about choices you make in an edit.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just phenomenal that they you know, poor
Speaker 2: Thomas Anderson went there with that, I think, and I
Speaker 2: mean there were so many big choices in Magnolia.
Speaker 1: I mean the frogs for a start is just like,
Speaker 1: what the.
Speaker 5: Fuck well I did. The first time I watched that,
Speaker 5: I walked out. I was eighteen, walked out guard that
Speaker 5: was so random that that happened. And then I rewatched
Speaker 5: it and went, oh, no, they set it up at
Speaker 5: the start with random stuff can happen with the whole
Speaker 5: which I didn't realize until I watch it recently that
Speaker 5: it's Patton Oswald who's the diver who gets stuck up
Speaker 5: the tree in that very opening scene. Yes, yeah I did.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize. I watched it like a few weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and I watched it two nights ago as well, just
Speaker 5: because I was going, oh, this is like you. I
Speaker 5: put it on quite often and went, oh, like Pat
Speaker 5: Molswelt did this film? Oh cool, because I knew Paula
Speaker 5: Tompkins had done work with it, so I knew Paul
Speaker 5: Thomas Anderson was around that La Lago scene kind of
Speaker 5: hiring comics. But yeah, I didn't. I didn't realize that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I only it was the diver.
Speaker 2: I only realized that, to be honest, when I interviewed
Speaker 2: Patton Oswell for Ratatoui, he came out and I interviewed
Speaker 2: him for Ratatouey and just looking through, you know, doing
Speaker 2: my research and looking through what he had done outside
Speaker 2: of obviously stand up, and I thought about Magnolia and
Speaker 2: went back and watched it at that time, and there
Speaker 2: is right at the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is such a great film.
Speaker 2: I love it and I can't wait for somebody to
Speaker 2: know on that one day so we can do a
Speaker 2: whole whole hour on eternal.
Speaker 1: Sunshine of the Spotless Might again is a cracking film.
Speaker 2: Andy Kaufman, sorry, Charlie Kaufman, and obviously Jim Carrey and
Speaker 2: Kate Winslet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched this. This was one of the first
Speaker 5: dates me and my wife went on, which isn't a
Speaker 5: great date film because it's just all about breaking up
Speaker 5: in your exits and both of us just come out
Speaker 5: of relationships and it was like, oh, walked out and go, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I might need to go and think for
Speaker 5: a while. This good night, like wasn't the romantic date
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be, but we both
Speaker 5: loved it. And it's Kate Winslet as well. It's just
Speaker 5: one of those amazing she's so good in everything. She's
Speaker 5: just like one of those people who I'm like, if
Speaker 5: she's in it, I'll pretty much watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Kate Winslet a lot of people we can
Speaker 2: forget how good she is, and I think she reminded
Speaker 2: us recently with the Mayor of East Town of just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: how good she is.
Speaker 1: And you're right. The Eternal Sunshine the Spotlet's mine is
Speaker 1: one of her absolute best.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I remember even going to see the Holiday that she's
Speaker 5: in with like Jack Black and not made for me,
Speaker 5: but I think she's good in it. I think Jack
Speaker 5: Black's good in that as well. Capen Diaz and Jude
Speaker 5: law Ones. I was like, all right, just enough of those,
Speaker 5: just get back to these guys.
Speaker 1: And Jim Carrey. You know, it was Jim Carrey his
Speaker 1: first dramatic role.
Speaker 2: That was probably The Truman Show from memory, but this
Speaker 2: was a different kind of like The Truman Show was
Speaker 2: a beautiful stepping off point that Jim Carrey to going
Speaker 2: to go more dramatic. But there's still very It's still
Speaker 2: had a lot of Jim Carrey physicality. I feel like
Speaker 2: for most part, for most of Eternal Sunshine on the
Speaker 2: Spotless Mind that physicality is taken away from Jim Carrey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that few scenes where he's like he's under
Speaker 5: the table, he's been a kid where you can see
Speaker 5: that comedic kind of stuff shine, But the rest of
Speaker 5: it is very gray and blue tones throughout the entire film.
Speaker 5: All those guys who started off doing like very famous
Speaker 5: film clips for bands, and you see those elements kind
Speaker 5: of come into their film.
Speaker 1: And the cracking carst Mark Ruffalo, what's his name from,
Speaker 1: Lord of the Lord of the Rings. Elijah would Elijah
Speaker 1: would the apologies Elijah. If you're listening, check out all
Speaker 1: three of those films if you haven't seen them. They
Speaker 1: are cracking when you're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 1: And we were back with Joshua, I want to know
Speaker 1: what he thought of the Taking of Palum one two three.
Speaker 2: All right, josh moment of truth, but take your palam
Speaker 2: one two three. I do thank you for nominating. I
Speaker 2: hadn't seen it, so looking forward to chatting about it.
Speaker 2: What did you think.
Speaker 5: I really liked it. I thought it was really it
Speaker 5: was that that seventies kind of style where the story
Speaker 5: is the key. I think sometimes with these kind of
Speaker 5: you know, if you like the remake. I don't know
Speaker 5: if you've seen it, but huge helicopter shots going over
Speaker 5: New York. They're zooming down on Denzel Washington, who's trying
Speaker 5: to catch John Travolda. In this one, it's almost like
Speaker 5: it's a play. It's set in three rooms pretty much,
Speaker 5: is that where it's all set. And I really really
Speaker 5: liked that kind of filmmaking where it's like, now we're
Speaker 5: going to just focus on the story. And I think
Speaker 5: even though I was saying, you know, a bunch of
Speaker 5: old dudes in this film, they're all very cool as well.
Speaker 5: Though there's this kind of New York swagger they've got
Speaker 5: going on, especially Walter Mathou and you mentioned at the
Speaker 5: top where he's he starts off just doing a tour
Speaker 5: of the place where he works for some Japanese tourist
Speaker 5: guy train guys that they work in transport, and even
Speaker 5: in that he's cracking jokes, being very cool, got the swagger,
Speaker 5: thinks they can't understand him, and then at the end
Speaker 5: he realizes, oh no, they can understand every word of that,
Speaker 5: because you've been calling them dummies, like all right, come
Speaker 5: on your dummies.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't lose.
Speaker 2: He never loses his cool, does he He's pretty even tempered.
Speaker 2: I did find myself as I was watching it, knowing
Speaker 2: there was a reboot with Denzel Washington John Travolta like
Speaker 2: imagining where they went went off and did things differently.
Speaker 2: Like one of them was like, I imagine they got big
Speaker 2: sweeping shots of New York. I imagine probably they get
Speaker 2: out of the subway and there's probably a car chase,
Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, because there's there's actually very little
Speaker 2: action in this film, Like there's the cop trying to
Speaker 2: get the money to the train and it flips because
Speaker 2: about a poorly timed ice cream cart comes comes across,
Speaker 2: which how oblivious was that guy.
Speaker 5: Greensleeves is playing too loud.
Speaker 1: And and like the train kind of going once there,
Speaker 1: once there, off the train and kind of spiral and
Speaker 1: kind of going too far.
Speaker 2: I think they did that really well. That kind of
Speaker 2: reminded me of the French Connection. The way they shot that.
Speaker 2: I imagine they just probably hooked hooked the camera like
Speaker 2: and this is you know, back in the days where
Speaker 2: special effects were limited, so they probably just hooked their
Speaker 2: camera in the front of the train cart and and
Speaker 2: you know, drove it and maybe with a bit of
Speaker 2: shaking going on, but outside of that, there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of action.
Speaker 1: But this it holds really well. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think there's also a lot of a lot of
Speaker 5: humor in it as well. It's not playing for last,
Speaker 5: but it's actually just funny how they're especially the Walter
Speaker 5: Mathow and Jerry Stiller who's in.
Speaker 1: It, who.
Speaker 5: Although I do every time I see him in anything
Speaker 5: other than Seinfeld, I'm expecting him to say surrended in
Speaker 5: an hour or something like that, just you know, because
Speaker 5: stands his dad. But it is so great. So they're
Speaker 5: like they find out that the train has been hijacked,
Speaker 5: and they're kind of making jokes about how they get
Speaker 5: how are they going to get away with this? Like
Speaker 5: like Walter Mathow's character, Lieutenant Garber is his name, and yeah,
Speaker 5: and Jerry Stiller's chacter a one the I think Walter
Speaker 5: Mathow says they're gonna make everyone in New York close
Speaker 5: the rise for one hundred seconds.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the lines I loved was when the guy
Speaker 2: who was like quite pissed off, like it was I
Speaker 2: saw this as a big inconvenience, you know, Like and
Speaker 2: basically it's kind of running the kind of the transport
Speaker 2: side of it and was pissed off that this is
Speaker 2: all happening. So he was going to go and basically
Speaker 2: kick him off the train, like there are a bunch
Speaker 2: of like ye brats who were just like these cheeky
Speaker 2: neighborhood kids.
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'll take care of them.
Speaker 2: And he yells out as he runs towards the train,
Speaker 2: why don't you hijack an airplane like everybody else? And
Speaker 2: then I think it's it's Hector Alonso who replies, because
Speaker 2: we're afraid of flying.
Speaker 1: But there are there.
Speaker 2: Are like if you if you love old style New
Speaker 2: York accents, that kind of more and more we probably
Speaker 2: it sounds like parody.
Speaker 1: Now this is also a film for you. Some of
Speaker 1: the New York.
Speaker 2: Isms in this, particularly you know in the at the
Speaker 2: Headquarters is just on yeah.
Speaker 5: And like you mentioned in the thing as well. So
Speaker 5: Quentin Tampantina obviously took parts of this for Reservoir Dogs,
Speaker 5: which is the colors of the of the villains. They
Speaker 5: all go in code. So we've got mister Blue and
Speaker 5: mister Green, mister Gray and mister Brown, who I didn't
Speaker 5: realize this is paper Earl Hindman, who was Wilson in
Speaker 5: Home Improvement. He's the neighbor next door.
Speaker 1: Wow, I recognize because we can see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well kind of he's got them start in front
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 1: That I did not know that. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that the driver of the train, the who Let's go Doyle,
Speaker 1: I think his name is is Matthew Broderick's dad. Oh
Speaker 1: is it? Yes? We was.
Speaker 2: He appeared recently on well on this podcast, but many
Speaker 2: years ago in Dog Day arter Noon and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: we spoke about that recently with the Scott Duley and
Speaker 2: so yeah. In fact, in dog Day Afternoon he took
Speaker 2: he took his son Matthew to set uh to meet
Speaker 2: al Pacino and I think they worked together, not yeah,
Speaker 2: a few years after that, so uh yeah, it's Hector.
Speaker 2: Hector Alonso is mister Gray. I think his color is
Speaker 2: and he's a pretty woman, the concierge, a pretty woman.
Speaker 5: Maybe his you know, he was in Chicago Hope as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was great in Chicago Hope and like you know,
Speaker 2: you know him when you see him, but you might
Speaker 2: not recognize him, you know, until maybe he takes off
Speaker 2: his wig.
Speaker 1: But there were like what did you they made a
Speaker 1: lot of.
Speaker 2: We're so used to tropes now in movies, and I
Speaker 2: thought they and I'm not sure about doing it deliberately
Speaker 2: or they just didn't, you know, it was never in
Speaker 2: their thinking. But I thought that was setting us up
Speaker 2: to believe certain things were going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just didn't happen.
Speaker 5: So the mister Gray character is the loose cannon they
Speaker 5: even say he was. He got kicked out of the
Speaker 5: mafia for being too unpredictable, and he like, is that
Speaker 5: thing of like because you have the anti heroes, which
Speaker 5: is kind of popular trope now, but I'm not sure
Speaker 5: it was it in the seventies.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I have to go and do more research into those films.
Speaker 5: But that thing is like, there are certain of the
Speaker 5: bad guys who you do actually feel sorry for, you
Speaker 5: do want them to get away with it. And then
Speaker 5: you've got mister Gray who is an asshole the entire time.
Speaker 5: So when they first get they all get on a
Speaker 5: different carriage each he like, ogle's a young woman, then
Speaker 5: brushes past her on the way just to establish this
Speaker 5: guy's no good, don't this is not someone you're going
Speaker 5: to be barracking for. And then there's mister Green, who
Speaker 5: is the he's an older guy who was a train driver,
Speaker 5: says he got like set up for drugs and got
Speaker 5: sacked and so he was the ones in there. Hopefully
Speaker 5: he he makes it out. Hopefully he does okay in
Speaker 5: this he gets away. The other thing I laughed at
Speaker 5: lights is they're asking for a million dollars and they are,
Speaker 5: and the Mayor's like New York City doesn't have a
Speaker 5: million dollars, which is insane to think about, Like a
Speaker 5: city of New York in nine seventy four did not
Speaker 5: have a million dollars at its disposal.
Speaker 1: I believe in two thousand and nine the ransom was
Speaker 1: it might have been one hundred million. Is it a
Speaker 1: hundred million or or ten million? But they certainly adjusted
Speaker 1: for inflation in here in the sequel, I did like,
Speaker 1: I do you want to play? Actually have seen the show?
Speaker 1: Uh so we can listen to some of those New York,
Speaker 1: New York accents.
Speaker 2: And this is a scene back at the headquarters between
Speaker 2: Garba and again one of the one of his and
Speaker 2: these are these are characters that always need to appear
Speaker 2: in these in these kind of movies, and it's a
Speaker 2: character that basically is just there to create attension for
Speaker 2: the protagonists, you know, to create like a something for
Speaker 2: him to, you know, to work off. And they're always
Speaker 2: the one that makes almost no sense, you know, the
Speaker 2: one that kind of is like going, why why do we.
Speaker 1: Need to bother about this? You know, let's just blow up.
Speaker 2: Let's just blow up the tray like it's just you
Speaker 2: know what, this makes no sense. But for some reason
Speaker 2: in movies you do need them.
Speaker 1: So let's listen to some great New York accents. In
Speaker 1: one of the scenes from the Taking of Talent one
Speaker 1: two three.
Speaker 5: Hey come, I wait down.
Speaker 1: Hey Frank, you're I shake it? What are you want
Speaker 1: from me? I got mornament me from all over the line.
Speaker 3: I'm telling the shat apt to get off the end
Speaker 3: each from all lines jump from here.
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd see today we're talking to murderers.
Speaker 1: The priority over running around.
Speaker 3: No, But when you're Frank, my only priority is saving
Speaker 3: the lives of these passes.
Speaker 1: Screwed up goddamn passion.
Speaker 3: What the hell they expected that allows you thirty five
Speaker 3: cents of live forever?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, beautiful?
Speaker 5: Do you read me?
Speaker 1: Tell them?
Speaker 3: One too was running things like when there were guns
Speaker 3: and take gas and blast them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're not running things.
Speaker 5: So why don't you start doing your own?
Speaker 1: I can let the police do theirs. Man like that
Speaker 1: literly living cop on the train, What the hell's he
Speaker 1: gonna talk to? You don't even know if it is
Speaker 1: a heat do you read me? Tell them one two three?
Speaker 1: What the hell today? Probably goddamn parson, Just tell them
Speaker 1: one two three? Any news to report? What's that about news?
Speaker 1: You gonna say again about news? I said, have you
Speaker 1: any news to report?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, nothing yet? Yeah, so it's sneezing.
Speaker 2: They said, really, well, and we'll get to we'll get
Speaker 2: to simply get to that sea.
Speaker 1: But I mean that, I mean, what's the line. What
Speaker 1: are the expect for thirty five cents to live forever?
Speaker 1: So the idea that by buying a train ticket you
Speaker 1: you should.
Speaker 5: Die, You risk your life every time you go on
Speaker 5: the New York subway. That we also just love the
Speaker 5: shut up written sha double dap, like no one says
Speaker 5: shut up anymore.
Speaker 2: Walter Matthay was born in New York, but it feels
Speaker 2: like he's trying to do a Boston accent. I'm not
Speaker 2: knowledgeable enough in the accents and the vagaries of them,
Speaker 2: but the particulars of them or so. But it does
Speaker 2: sound like he's putting on an accent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just lily livid and shut up. You don't
Speaker 5: hear like not since Joe Dolshi have we heard shut up?
Speaker 2: And one of the things I think they do is
Speaker 2: that is this idea there's a cop on the train,
Speaker 2: and the idea that they don't know if it's male
Speaker 2: or female.
Speaker 1: It's for me. It's seemed that he's setting up perhaps
Speaker 1: that the cop was female. Yeah. And then what I
Speaker 1: thought I guess was going to happen was the the
Speaker 1: bank the robbers were going to discover that there was
Speaker 1: a rat amongst them.
Speaker 5: It was funny the passengers on the on the train.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you watched the trailer the credits
Speaker 5: for it, they're all very stereoty. It was like the hippie,
Speaker 5: the prostitute, the like the mother, the old drunk, and
Speaker 5: it's like when they're just going but they don't really
Speaker 5: make it. It's just eighteen people. Like it's not like
Speaker 5: it's like they go, oh, the hippie is going to
Speaker 5: try and say peace, and the Jewish old Jewish guy
Speaker 5: is going to try and get in the way. It's
Speaker 5: just they're just eighteen passengers.
Speaker 1: They're warm props, you know. And like the African American
Speaker 1: guy with a bit of sass, like he's probably you know,
Speaker 1: the one you remember the most.
Speaker 2: I did love the woman who sleeps through it, you
Speaker 2: know it, Yes, as a joke. Yeah, yeah, there's the
Speaker 2: old guy, there's the what we'd call now sex work.
Speaker 2: And I at one point, did you kind of I
Speaker 2: guess work out who the cop may be? That's who
Speaker 2: I started thinking, might it might have been?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was a sex worker or the
Speaker 5: African American guy that my two. I thought, yeah, that
Speaker 5: that's who's going to be. Yeah, and just because he
Speaker 5: hasn't they both have a few lines. That's that's all
Speaker 5: I thought. Yeah, it's like when you see a famous
Speaker 5: actor in a small scene, you go, they're definitely coming back.
Speaker 5: They didn't just sign on for this. It's like in
Speaker 5: Mayor of Eastown, guy Pierce's character, I'm like, he's definitely
Speaker 5: he's he's there's something more to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that was ranging maryvis. I thought it
Speaker 2: was I guess a red herring where in this it
Speaker 2: feels like it feels like almost a bit of a cheet.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's.
Speaker 2: An old saying that if you see a gun in
Speaker 2: act one, it needs to go off, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: by in act three. And so if they're planning this idea,
Speaker 2: if this idea of there's been there's a gun on
Speaker 2: board that we see that we're told, you know, there
Speaker 2: is a cop then and we do see it play out.
Speaker 2: But I feel like by really hiding the existence of
Speaker 2: that guy, I feel like that's one thing I feel.
Speaker 1: Could be better. Like they could have.
Speaker 2: Even if they decided they weren't going to make the
Speaker 2: passengers you know, we weren't going to see from passengers perspective.
Speaker 2: It was going to be pretty much told from their
Speaker 2: watermath owns and the mister Gray's and the perspective. But
Speaker 2: I think you could have given us something more to
Speaker 2: work on than just have a character who have barely
Speaker 2: spotted be the cop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean the other there was another scene
Speaker 5: in it where so they have all these police snipers
Speaker 5: in the like, so the trainings stopped for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and there's one police officer who's down there, and then
Speaker 5: all these snipers come down, so they don't know that
Speaker 5: they're there. And there's another thing where they just start
Speaker 5: firing at one point and you don't know as if
Speaker 5: you don't know who it was, and there's no repercussions
Speaker 5: of that sniper, Like you don't have the police yelling
Speaker 5: at them, going what did you do that for? It
Speaker 5: just happens. Someone gets shot on the train and it
Speaker 5: just yeah, it's not really talked about again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you got that the black officer who's
Speaker 1: like on the on the side there, and and like
Speaker 1: when they take the money down, they shine a light
Speaker 1: and torch into their his face and you kind of think, well,
Speaker 1: that's probably a bad move. Yeah, like he should be
Speaker 1: not not you know, spotlighting people. But yeah, like there
Speaker 1: are things like and then what happens to him in
Speaker 1: the end, and even the mayor the mayor which is
Speaker 1: I think it will be a great character, and it's
Speaker 1: set up like where it's like, really, you know, they're
Speaker 1: playing a little bit of the politics. There's there's a
Speaker 1: line which also takes us back the dog day afternoon
Speaker 1: where they he said we don't want another Attica situation,
Speaker 1: which is a famous prison right that happened. We've spoken
Speaker 1: a bit on this podcast Josh about seventies films not
Speaker 1: being afraid to name check.
Speaker 2: And timestamp themselves to you know, events in their recent history.
Speaker 2: So Attica was a prison, right, and then that that
Speaker 2: would have been a year or two before this film
Speaker 2: was made. And they say, we don't want another Attica.
Speaker 2: So when they're negotiating with the mayor, who's he set
Speaker 2: up as a weasel, and we can see that his
Speaker 2: wife's kind of the I guess the backbone off top
Speaker 2: about the entire city. But there is a good negotiation.
Speaker 2: And let's say, have listened to the negotiations with the mayor.
Speaker 3: Alright out, you've heard from the three wise men.
Speaker 1: Now what do you say?
Speaker 3: What are they going to say, Warren?
Speaker 5: They oh, everybody, the press, the man on the street,
Speaker 5: you mean, the voters.
Speaker 3: You know what they're gonna say. The Times is gonna
Speaker 3: support you, The News is gonna knock you, the Postal
Speaker 3: take both sides at the same time, the ritual support you. Likewise,
Speaker 3: the blacks and the Puerto Ricans won't give a shit.
Speaker 3: So come on now, quit storm.
Speaker 5: You stop bullying everybody, you Warren, this is supposed to
Speaker 5: be a democracy.
Speaker 3: Why is that, for Christ's sake, we're trying to run
Speaker 3: a city, not a goddamn democracy.
Speaker 5: Ow quit farting around.
Speaker 1: We've got to pay Jesse. Jesse, what do you say?
Speaker 4: I know, a million dollars sounds like a lot of money,
Speaker 4: but just think what you're gonna get in return?
Speaker 1: What eighteen to two votes?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 5: All right? Warren Warren arranged for the payoffs.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, he's such a ways of a character.
Speaker 2: When he's in bad earlier and he's got a cold
Speaker 2: or a flu and his deputy mayor comes in, he
Speaker 2: like throws a used tissue.
Speaker 5: See that whole scene is it's almost just like a sketch,
Speaker 5: Like it's just it's not not really, it's like a
Speaker 5: comedy sketch. It's got all the beats of a comedy sketch.
Speaker 5: And then the punchline at the end with his wife
Speaker 5: saying it's eighteen guaranteed votes and that's and there's another scene.
Speaker 5: I won't give that away, but there's an another scene
Speaker 5: which is also I think, just an another sketch. It
Speaker 5: doesn't really it's you could just watch that on its
Speaker 5: own and that's your movie or that's your that's your scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's a great line.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's there was a portion of
Speaker 2: that scene there, I think if it's the scene or
Speaker 2: another scene, but there's a great line where because he's
Speaker 2: so afraid of being booed, that's his big.
Speaker 1: Fear and and and all.
Speaker 2: Being shot and they said the guy his deputy mayor
Speaker 2: says that they have no reason to shoot you, and
Speaker 2: he says, why do you think they're from out of town?
Speaker 1: But with all this, so it's kind of set up.
Speaker 2: I liked kind of following this and because it was funny,
Speaker 2: but also it's the idea of like seeing how they
Speaker 2: kind of respond, like and there's a whole thing that
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 1: Negotiate with terrorists, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do ponder that, but I was kind of
Speaker 2: thinking in by hand, in fact, they wrote it down.
Speaker 1: They can't pay the ransom.
Speaker 2: It's one of the things we kind of know in
Speaker 2: movies now, like yeah, and probably movies made since nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four. You just don't pay the ransom, like you
Speaker 2: might pretend to pay the ransom, but they kind of
Speaker 2: just pay the ransom with that a real plan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think where the thing was, how are they
Speaker 5: going to escape, and so they thought they'd get I
Speaker 5: guess they're thinking we'll get the money back when we
Speaker 5: catch them, because they've got to come out of the
Speaker 5: subway somehow. Yes, yeah, And so that's and that's the
Speaker 5: thing where Walter Matho's character is like, no, these guys
Speaker 5: have thought of everything, and so he's trying to like
Speaker 5: be one sep ahead of them, going all right this,
Speaker 5: and that's when he realizes because they're off to the
Speaker 5: end of the line to catch them, and he's like, no,
Speaker 5: this doesn't make any sense, and so he he goes
Speaker 5: back on his own, which also makes no sense. Well,
Speaker 5: just one cop on his own. Yeah, I'll just go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I got to say the the officer, who's uh,
Speaker 2: the commissioner, Let's just call him the commissioner. He's a
Speaker 2: black man, and he's he's like he's trying to play
Speaker 2: a white man because he says he agrees to turn
Speaker 2: it around, and he goes turn this car around and
Speaker 2: burn rubber delivery of it.
Speaker 1: He made be the young.
Speaker 2: Cooler black man I've ever seen on screen. But even
Speaker 2: even that, like I really I.
Speaker 1: Really enjoyed this film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I forgive it all for that, you know,
Speaker 2: any kind of perceived shortcomings. And maybe we are so
Speaker 2: indoctrinated with tropes now that the things we think should happen,
Speaker 2: and then when they don't happen, we're like, well hang on.
Speaker 2: But walderon math how like, usually there'll be something that
Speaker 2: he thinks of that has been laced earlier in the
Speaker 2: movie that he realizes, I hang on, they're not going
Speaker 2: to the end of the line. It just but and
Speaker 2: we're supposed to as an audience, we're supposed to see
Speaker 2: that moment. We don't get that moment. Walder Matt how
Speaker 2: just kind of says, hang on, these guys are smart.
Speaker 2: They're not getting off the track. Turn his car around
Speaker 2: like yeah, and.
Speaker 5: He knows exactly the spot they got off as well,
Speaker 5: Which is.
Speaker 1: The things I do really well.
Speaker 2: I think for about half an hour in or so,
Speaker 2: there's always they do a good job of the building
Speaker 2: the momentum, you know, the planning, the idea there's a
Speaker 2: cop on the train, so you're asking yourself questions, okay,
Speaker 2: where is the cop?
Speaker 1: And then the idea of like how will they escape?
Speaker 2: This is It is quite fascinating and potentially it's also
Speaker 2: like I guess we see what their planning was, and
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not a bad plan. The idea
Speaker 2: of the death handle is brought up, which is the
Speaker 2: idea that you need you do need somebody driving the train.
Speaker 2: But they were not exactly sure what they've done, but
Speaker 2: we accept, Okay, they this guy's drives has driven trains.
Speaker 1: I guess he knows, you know, putting a crowbar in
Speaker 1: there or something, or.
Speaker 5: Weld something there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they so they get out and the officer
Speaker 2: comes up.
Speaker 1: But I was really surprised at how quickly they were
Speaker 1: all taken down. Like the idea, I was sure they're
Speaker 1: going to get the street level and there's going to
Speaker 1: be a chase through the streets, at least for one
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 5: There was just only only one escapes. I don't want
Speaker 5: to give it away.
Speaker 1: But well, yeah, you haven't seen it. Spoilers because if
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it, certainly stop now and somebody will
Speaker 1: do move on to the podcast first and then they
Speaker 1: do watch it. But maybe from this point they've given
Speaker 1: you enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the fact that only so mister Green gets away,
Speaker 5: who's the oldest of them, is kind of you know,
Speaker 5: he's the one I wanted to get away as well.
Speaker 5: The rest are kind of like you know that they
Speaker 5: are villains, but the fact that so they turn on
Speaker 5: each other because one doesn't want to give his gun
Speaker 5: away even though it's it's huge. You can't walk through
Speaker 5: the streets with like a massive automatic weapon, like, but no,
Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. And then yeah, so
Speaker 5: then then they've got more cash to split, so they
Speaker 5: kill him and they split the cash. And then when
Speaker 5: the undercover cop is gets a clear shot and then
Speaker 5: he gets killed straight away as well, like he gets shot,
Speaker 5: and that's when Walter Matthew's character comes in and it
Speaker 5: does all happen very quick. All in this it's like
Speaker 5: we didn't we don't get the locations, we don't have
Speaker 5: any the budget for that, so we have it all
Speaker 5: said in this one area and then all the actions
Speaker 5: happening there, and then it's almost that could have been
Speaker 5: the end of the movie as well, like so mister
Speaker 5: Green gets away with it and Walter Mathew catches the
Speaker 5: ring letter in mister Blue played by Robert Shaw, and
Speaker 5: so but then there is the five minute coder of
Speaker 5: all right, we've still got to find out our missing guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have you have mister Robert Shaw, who listeners.
Speaker 2: If you listen to the Jaws episode, we spke quite
Speaker 2: a bit about Robert Shaw with silly Piccola gives one
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: Great monologues in Jaws, and he's he's in a really
Speaker 1: good form here.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is before all the villains became Eastern
Speaker 2: European in American cinema cinema.
Speaker 1: So he's about to shoot, you know, execute the hippie,
Speaker 1: the policeman.
Speaker 2: Mathow comes in and then, like I must say, I
Speaker 2: was quite shocked as much as I was like, well,
Speaker 2: this is not what I was expecting, because usually it
Speaker 2: is the main villain is the one you kill last,
Speaker 2: you know, yes, yeah, yeah, John Rickman dies at the
Speaker 2: end of die Hard. You know, all the other ones
Speaker 2: get taken before him. And so that's what I was expecting,
Speaker 2: because I've been you know, I've grown up on movies
Speaker 2: and all the tropes.
Speaker 1: And and then it's a great line about like, do
Speaker 1: you know do they his executions still the electric chair?
Speaker 1: And in New York he says no, and he said
Speaker 1: it's a pity, and he basically let you.
Speaker 2: Keeps himself on the train line and I must say,
Speaker 2: I think I think I've had a camera on my
Speaker 2: mouth was a gape.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that third rail, which they kind of talk
Speaker 5: about it in the film as well. I said, because
Speaker 5: they get a lot of the passengers of the train
Speaker 5: off and they said, don't touch that third rail. They said,
Speaker 5: it's another of those Chekhov gun moments, So don't touch
Speaker 5: that third rail because you know, now we don't have
Speaker 5: that on the you can tread on the tracks now,
Speaker 5: and so, yeah, it is. It was a great and
Speaker 5: I was also very shocked that he did it. I thought, oh, no,
Speaker 5: he's gonna he's a smart guy, he's gonna get away
Speaker 5: with it. But no, he's just like, noah, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: take myself out so you can't.
Speaker 1: And then so one of the things they've set up earlier,
Speaker 1: which again is like he said, the Chekhov's gun is
Speaker 1: the the sneezy and yeah, and you know, to begin with,
Speaker 1: you think is it an actor's choice, you know, But
Speaker 1: then it's so it's so prevalent that you kind of go, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is going to mean something. Every time he sneezes.
Speaker 1: What I'm at, how garbage? Says gazuntite.
Speaker 5: Yes, because the first one, I thought, Oh, that's just
Speaker 5: a funny thing. He's just so cool in a situation
Speaker 5: like this, He's so calm, he's just gonna say type.
Speaker 5: Then I think he does it like three times in
Speaker 5: the negotiations over the phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's really it's really good. So they
Speaker 2: rack up, they rock up to the to his apartment,
Speaker 2: you know, and.
Speaker 1: And by this stage, you know it's going to play
Speaker 1: a part like I was expecting, maybe in the tunnel,
Speaker 1: like they might be looking for him in the dark,
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe he hasn't got a gun, so
Speaker 1: he's unarmed. So what I was there and he he
Speaker 1: can't find him. He's saying come out, and then he sneezes,
Speaker 1: and that kind of gives him away. They didn't go
Speaker 1: to that angle, and I'm glad they He's basically doing
Speaker 1: a demi more indecent proposal yet there and and they
Speaker 1: come knocking Jerry Stiller and and there's some questioning.
Speaker 2: There was a nice touch of the you know, one
Speaker 2: of the bundles of cash being near the bedside table. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty tense. He puts the he's put
Speaker 2: all the stash in the oven, which is a nice move, and.
Speaker 5: Jerry Stiller wants to light his cigarette because I'll just
Speaker 5: go to the stovetop. But then he gets freaking let
Speaker 5: me do it. The oven's tricky. So I like, I
Speaker 5: like Walter Matthore walking in and the place is it's
Speaker 5: a shithole he has and he goes, Oh, I like
Speaker 5: what you've done with the place.
Speaker 1: It literally, it literally is the size of you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost the size of a modern kitchen in
Speaker 1: a way like it's it's the whole place. Yes.
Speaker 2: So then so then they're gonna, you know, there's a
Speaker 2: good questions that they're satisfied enough, they say they might
Speaker 2: come back again.
Speaker 1: They c the door just as he's about to close
Speaker 1: the door, and you can see it coming. Yes, he sneezes.
Speaker 1: What matth Aw says, kazuntite, And then the door opens
Speaker 1: and that beautiful old man white face.
Speaker 2: Is there, that hound dog face that we spoke of
Speaker 2: earlier is there with a how would you describe that
Speaker 2: look that he gives.
Speaker 5: Josh, it's a real sitcom moment. It's real like you expect.
Speaker 5: It is where you expect the theme of the Odd
Speaker 5: Couple to play the credits roll. It was produced by
Speaker 5: James Burrows. That kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 5: For a film that was like, it's all so cool
Speaker 5: and like the music, the score is so great and
Speaker 5: it really drives it. That scene, even though I really
Speaker 5: like it, I like that's how they end it. It's
Speaker 5: a real kind of he's a wink to the camera
Speaker 5: kind of we've got him, Like yeah, and that's how
Speaker 5: it ends.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: I kind of was laughing. It almost had, you know,
Speaker 2: my hands in the air when he we saw that
Speaker 2: face and then when it cut the black it was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: they went there. They actually ended it on that shot.
Speaker 2: That is incredible. We've spoken a lot on this podcast
Speaker 2: about the movies in the seventies they get in late
Speaker 2: and they get out early, and this, yeah, this may
Speaker 2: top all of them as far as getting out early.
Speaker 1: Like with that said, with that said, there's not actually
Speaker 1: much more. Like they have rounded everybody up. It does.
Speaker 1: It makes enough sense. I'm not sure what else you
Speaker 1: need to know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't need to see the money go back
Speaker 5: to the bank, the mayor have a wave on the
Speaker 5: steps of Parbor House and get his kudos, and you
Speaker 5: don't need any of that. You just go, all right,
Speaker 5: Walter Matho's the hero here, he's got his win.
Speaker 1: That's great, Yeah, it is. It is so good. One
Speaker 1: other thing I would just want to mention. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the mayor, and I forgot to mention it earlier. Again,
Speaker 1: one of these things that they set up what you expect,
Speaker 1: like after that scene that we heard, you basically don't
Speaker 1: see the mayor again, Like you don't see him make
Speaker 1: any speech or you get on the blowhorn. The only
Speaker 1: thing you do is he it's actually quite nicely done.
Speaker 1: Is he here booing? Yeah? And then one of the.
Speaker 2: Cops say is, oh he comes to he comes to mayor,
Speaker 2: which is it's it's quite funny. But I'm surprised again
Speaker 2: that they just went They said, they put a lot
Speaker 2: of energies setting the mayor up, and then they there's
Speaker 2: no there's no payoff at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's one of those things. Also,
Speaker 5: like we say that influenced Tarantino as well, but also
Speaker 5: apparently influenced the New York Subway because they for many
Speaker 5: years didn't have a train going from Pelham at one
Speaker 5: two three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard I heard that. Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 5: Funny that people are like, oh no, we don't. It's
Speaker 5: like that thing of like flights not having seat number thirteen,
Speaker 5: even though if you're sitting fourteen you can count and go,
Speaker 5: this is absolutely thirteen. It's the same. Yeah, superstitious kind
Speaker 5: of thing. Yeah, it's got gonna matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we watched that. This is the final
Speaker 2: episode of this series of you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2: We were back with a fourth series.
Speaker 1: But it was a good one. I'm glad. I love
Speaker 1: but equally watching a favorite film of mine.
Speaker 2: I watched Breakfast Club last week with Damian Power and
Speaker 2: that was great to revisit that, and do you know,
Speaker 2: to introduce a new film for somebody, But also I
Speaker 2: do love and I haven't seen the film and I
Speaker 2: get to watch it, and I really enjoyed watching The
Speaker 2: Taking of palam one two three.
Speaker 1: So do you do you understand that it's a classic.
Speaker 1: You're happy for it to be labeled a classic?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's rated a one hundred percent on
Speaker 5: Rotten Tomatoes. I'd say, yeah, it's a it's a classic film.
Speaker 5: It's real. It of its era, New York of its era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have spoken about it a bit where yeah,
Speaker 2: things that it's great to see a film and kind
Speaker 2: of go oh and resual dogs we've mentioned is the
Speaker 2: obvious example, but it is good to see ah that
Speaker 2: is where that's where those tropes came from and where
Speaker 2: they began. And there's it's been quite a lot of
Speaker 2: times in this podcast where it has not necessarily with
Speaker 2: this movie, but there's been movies where people have come
Speaker 2: on and gone, oh, now I understand all those Simpsons
Speaker 2: episodes and all those Simpsons references Citizen Kane.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yes, now I get it. Now I get it.
Speaker 1: But mate, thank you so much. I know this movie.
Speaker 2: This podcast comes with homework. I'm really glad you did it.
Speaker 2: I mentioned it at the start. Let's mention it again
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Speaker 1: Fantastic Josh, thanks so much mate.
Speaker 2: Well there it is the final episode of You Ain't
Speaker 2: Seen Nothing Yet for season four. We will attempt not
Speaker 2: to be off air for too long. In a way,
Speaker 2: I would like to just keep rolling, because I know
Speaker 2: a lot of the country is in lockdown as we
Speaker 2: record this, but I do like to get ahead with
Speaker 2: the episodes otherwise it gets a little bit stressful. So
Speaker 2: we're going to record some, get ahead of ourselves in
Speaker 2: a production point of view, not in an ego point
Speaker 2: of view, and then we'll roll them out as quickly
Speaker 2: as we can.
Speaker 1: What we might do though, is actually maybe just put
Speaker 1: out re release. I know you can find him any time,
Speaker 1: but still maybe this re release some of our favorite episodes,
Speaker 1: just to nudge you in their direction. That might be
Speaker 1: a nice idea. Really loved to hang that with Josh.
Speaker 1: He is a funny guy, smart guy. It's a lovely bloke.
Speaker 2: And yeah, really really glad he nominated The Taking of
Speaker 2: Palm one two three for that.
Speaker 1: WALTI mathow Space. I just can't. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: the best. It's the greatest. Derek, have you seen this one?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: And I'd never heard of it. And I just about
Speaker 4: watched the new one when you rang and I said,
Speaker 4: I found it on one of the streaming things, and
Speaker 4: you suggested another one, and I went to that one.
Speaker 4: I thought, maybe it'll be better resolution, and I found
Speaker 4: the old one. I was like, oh, of course.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think to ensure that you're watching
Speaker 1: the right one. Yes, I'm not sure if we'll probably
Speaker 1: cover the the reboot, the two thousand and nine reboot
Speaker 1: starring Washington and Travolta, but I.
Speaker 4: Tried watching that as well. Afterwards, I thought, I'm going
Speaker 4: to try the Daily Double, and yeah, I just fell
Speaker 4: asleep in.
Speaker 1: The right day, on the right right frame of mind.
Speaker 1: I might I might give it a go. I do
Speaker 1: I do hear that Gibalta plays it over the top
Speaker 1: as opposed to Robert Shaw's you know, you know, calm
Speaker 1: English gentleman. Gervrolda goes you know a well a little
Speaker 1: bit with his character Walter Mathow.
Speaker 4: As soon as he appeared, it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's Steve Guttenberg with a Richard Nixon mask. I couldn't
Speaker 4: get that out of my head. And my wife walked
Speaker 4: in and she goes, I didn't know he was that tall.
Speaker 4: And then later on in the film when he appears
Speaker 4: and the cop goes, I didn't expect you to be
Speaker 4: that tall. And I'm starting to think maybe Walter Mathow
Speaker 4: copped that affair. People assumed he was little.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, yeah, well I think I do believe he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was quite tall. I'm not sure he was
Speaker 2: with the odd couple with Jack Lemon. You know, I've
Speaker 2: seen you a couple obviously over the years, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if Jack Lemon was small.
Speaker 1: That was part of the pairing or not. I know
Speaker 1: what a Mathau was.
Speaker 2: I think the messy one and Jack Lemon was the clean,
Speaker 2: cleaner one. But anyway, yes, I really, I really enjoyed
Speaker 2: checking that out, of course, Derek. For those who don't know,
Speaker 2: he is the man behind Castaways Studios dot com dot au.
Speaker 2: If you're looking to get a podcast up off the ground,
Speaker 2: he is the man to speak to Castaways Studios dot
Speaker 2: com dot au. When we are recording a lot of
Speaker 2: these recent episodes, not in the lovely studios off Castways
Speaker 2: studios in Collingwood in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: We are doing these remotely. So I think they've been
Speaker 1: sounding pretty good. I got to say, but you know,
Speaker 1: not as pristine an experience as you get in the
Speaker 1: studios a Castaway. So thanks another great season, Derek.
Speaker 4: It's been awesome. For the after party, I was thinking
Speaker 4: of maybe staying at home with the kids.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna putter around the house.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, maybe bake some bread.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been a fun season. I feel
Speaker 2: like though the season three have you Ain't seen nothing yet?
Speaker 2: Feels like there's three kind of kinds of movies I
Speaker 2: think we've done. I think we've done a lot of Kubrick,
Speaker 2: a lot of John Hughes, and a lot of nineteen
Speaker 2: seventies New York films.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of New York going on and so
Speaker 4: it's got to.
Speaker 1: Be a good film. Oh, they are great.
Speaker 2: We did a taxi driver they after do it and
Speaker 2: taking a pal on one two three, John Hughes, we
Speaker 2: did well playing Strange at Automobiles. I think win Science
Speaker 2: was early on in this. In this one with Claire
Speaker 2: Hooper and then the Breakfast Club last week. We've done
Speaker 2: it pretty in pink. Previously with Husy and Kubrick. We
Speaker 2: had almost almost three or four episodes in a row
Speaker 2: where it was Lisa mckiern doing full Metal Jacket, and
Speaker 2: we had the Shining with Tommy Dassilo, and then two
Speaker 2: thousand and one with Tony Armstrong. Really in fact, in fact,
Speaker 2: Stephen Gates nominated Dr Strange Glove and I said, mate,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you can't do it with this a bit
Speaker 2: of a Kubrick overload going on at the moment, So
Speaker 2: choose another one, and thankfully he did with the Parasite
Speaker 2: with him so great, A really fun season. Looking forward
Speaker 2: to a fourth season. Some of the names of people
Speaker 2: who will be have been chatting to Kate Lambrook.
Speaker 1: He's very keen to come on.
Speaker 2: Charlie Pickering, Ryan Shelton, a whole bunch of mates, I'm
Speaker 2: also really keen to have some comics that you may
Speaker 2: be less familiar with, you know, And to be honest,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of in contact with some comics that I
Speaker 2: don't even necessarily hang out with a whole bunch. So
Speaker 2: there'll be some episodes and I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 2: this where I'm also kind of getting to know my guests.
Speaker 2: You know, it's great to be that I can just
Speaker 2: bring up a friend and get them to come on,
Speaker 2: but I kind of want to brant it all out
Speaker 2: and the community out and then.
Speaker 1: Introduce you to some new voices. So I look forward
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: Now you can get in touch with us at yasny
Speaker 2: podcast at gmail dot com and let us know what
Speaker 2: you think of the show, any movies you would like
Speaker 2: us to cover, any guests that you would like us
Speaker 2: to approach.
Speaker 1: I do the way we do it is I approach
Speaker 1: your guests.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they know exactly the movie, they know they haven't
Speaker 2: seen it they've always wanted to see. Other times, I
Speaker 2: provided him a list of thoughts starters, and there's a
Speaker 2: there's been a hundred movies on that list, and they
Speaker 2: pick a couple and then we work out which one.
Speaker 1: So it's easy to pick a guest than.
Speaker 2: It is the big A movie, because you know, you've
Speaker 2: got to find the guests who can do the podcast,
Speaker 2: and then which movies they haven't actually seen. I'm very
Speaker 2: strict on Sometimes people say I've seen half of that film,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, you need to have seen none
Speaker 2: of it. It needs to be a clean experience. So yeah,
Speaker 2: were already looking forward to having more people and seeing
Speaker 2: more movies. Derek, how else can people get in touch
Speaker 2: with us or help out the podcast?
Speaker 4: Well, apart from the email, which is yasny Podcast at
Speaker 4: gmail dot com, look the iTunes rating and wherever you are,
Speaker 4: whatever platform you're on, a rating, a five star rating
Speaker 4: and a review really really helps the secret algorithms, but
Speaker 4: also helps us know what you like and what films
Speaker 4: you're interested in, and what works and what doesn't. So
Speaker 4: that's really good. I've got a couple here that I
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind reading out. That's all right?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, bringing on so recent rating from Just Another Mother.
Speaker 4: It took me a while to work that name out.
Speaker 4: They said, absolutely love listening to this while I'm driving, walking,
Speaker 4: or working from home. I have liked Pete for a
Speaker 4: long time, but did not realize how much he knows
Speaker 4: about movies.
Speaker 1: Ah, thank you.
Speaker 4: I love hearing him talk to guests about movies I
Speaker 4: have seen and getting a new perspective on them, and
Speaker 4: hearing about movies I'm yet to watch, but we'll definitely
Speaker 4: watch now thoroughly recommend. Thanks Just Another Mother, Thank you,
Speaker 4: Just Another Mother.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we loved in the podcast, and I'm glad,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a real thrill to know that you've
Speaker 2: been you've played a small part in helping people find,
Speaker 2: you know, new movies aparticlarly. Yeah, classic movies, and it's
Speaker 2: one of the things I've really enjoyed, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Josh, I've really I really enjoy revisiting
Speaker 2: movies I've seen, you know, another love and talking to
Speaker 2: someone who's just watched it for the first time as
Speaker 2: they process, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's what this podcast is. It's not necessarily Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is obviously largely review elements to it and critique,
Speaker 1: I guess, but it really is about somebody who's just
Speaker 1: watched a film and are still processing it, to be honest,
Speaker 1: because they've watched it that morning or the night before
Speaker 1: but yeah, I really, I really do enjoy finding films
Speaker 1: myself that I haven't seen, so more of that hopefully
Speaker 1: in season four, maybe one more Derek.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one's from DS North Kit. They say
Speaker 4: such a welcome relief in Lockdown. Thank you to all
Speaker 4: the team that make an effort to bring us all
Speaker 4: on a journey each week we can get about real
Speaker 4: life and live in a movie discussion for a short time.
Speaker 4: Great discussions, love the quirky facts.
Speaker 1: Just thank you going your DS Northcote. I assume you
Speaker 1: might live in Northcolte.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and you thank the team involved,
Speaker 2: and the team really is Derek and myself, and credit
Speaker 2: to you, Derek.
Speaker 1: You have done a great job putting this podcast together.
Speaker 2: So many of my guests, obviously I'm largely comedians, you know,
Speaker 2: ninety percent of them walk out asking for Derek's card,
Speaker 2: and I know some even recently been in touch about
Speaker 2: recording and setting up their podcasts with you. So thanks
Speaker 2: again mate. It's been a great season. More of it
Speaker 2: coming through. We will try not to be off life
Speaker 2: or two long. But like I said, there are sixty
Speaker 2: one films and episodes you can watch and we might Yeah,
Speaker 2: just you know, put out retrospectively some of our favorite
Speaker 2: episodes in the interim you can enjoy it, maybe some
Speaker 2: that you haven't caught. Yeah, and I know as we
Speaker 2: wrap it up, I know where in lockdown as we
Speaker 2: record this it is. It's tough for everyone, no doubt,
Speaker 2: and hopefully you know, movies and this podcast have given
Speaker 2: some small a small bit of solace and escapism. But
Speaker 2: just reach out to your friends and loved ones. There
Speaker 2: is you know, some optimism. Hashtag get facks and let's
Speaker 2: all hopefully when we're out of this, would love to
Speaker 2: do some live shows. Meet some of you face to
Speaker 2: face would be great. So that's something to look forward
Speaker 2: to and I can't wait to meet you all on
Speaker 2: the other side. So thank you until next time. Bye
Speaker 2: for now, and so we leave all Pete
Speaker 1: Save fan soul, and to our friends of the radio audience,
Speaker 1: we've been a pleasant good name.