1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gam Nation. How do you feel? And 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't like doing this? 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: When you go to a grocery a member is that 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: what it's called of a grocery store? And when you 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: go rewards and they say what's your phone number? 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't like it? 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 3: And they do it. So your phone number. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Is why don't they just ask you for the last 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: few digits of your phone number. We'll have a listen to. 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: This is what happened to someone who was at Dan Murphy's. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: She went into Dan Murphy's in Adelaide to buy something 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: for her boyfriend and she was asked for details, a 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: membership details, so she recited a phone number, etc. Hours later, 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: she got a text from an unknown number that said 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: do you think that you are immune? 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: It sounds a bit threatening to her because. 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: It wasn't just a high from an unknown number, so 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: she did some sleuthing. She blocked the number, but she 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: did some sluice, some sluicing, and she discovered who the 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: person was. She called the number and to find out 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: how he'd gotten her details and confessed he'd been standing 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: behind her in line at Dan Murphy's and had memorized 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: her phone number when she'd read it out to the employee. 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: Dan Murphy's themselves, when asked about this, had said, we 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: try and handle person information with care for the most 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: secure experience. We recommend customers download the dan Murphy app 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: more data mining, save their membership card and their digital 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: wallet and scan that when they make a purchase. 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: But you get asked your phone number time now. 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: I find I've always been like this, Like recently when 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: I bought my wife a little in espress her coffee machine, 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: and what you're addressing? What your details? I said, Hey, 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: give me your computer, an old type serial killer behind me. 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Why do you have to give all your details to 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: buy a pair of chutes, to buy anything? 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: Why? 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: I remember Harley walking out of a shop because he 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: wanted just to buy jumper and they needed to they 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: wanted to know his address. He said, why do you 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: need to know this? And she said, I'm sorry, I 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: need this information on your phone number. For the said 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: you don't. Your boss says you do, but you don't. 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: Because the way the computer terminals now at the cash point, 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: there's all these steps that they have to go, and 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: the people don't have the wherewithal to click past that anymore. 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: So I know I have to do this, but look 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: how dangerous it can be. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: But why don't those organizations say these will give me 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: the last four digits of your phone number. Why does 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: your whole phone number need to be read out loud? 51 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Sure, put on. 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: A toilet wall, but that's different. Here's my last four 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: numbers of my phone number. Try and call me 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: Eight six seven, five three