1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Monday, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: the thirtieth of October. 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: I'm Zara, I'm Billy tda's editor. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: Today we are bringing you a very special interview with 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Queensland Premier Anastasia Palache. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. I flew to Brisbane last week to 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: speak to the Premier of Queensland. The stats show that 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: Queensland is the worst state when it comes to youth 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: attention capacity. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: Well, it's an issue nationally, it's not just unique to Queensland. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: Do you accept that it's in terms of capacity at 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: US attention centers. It's more of an issue here. That's 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: what the stats show. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: You are correct, there are more people in our youth 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: detention centers. 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: But before we get the vara, what's making headlines this morning. 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the second stage 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: of the war has begun, detailing the expansion of an 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: Israeli ground invasion into Gaza. In the same speech, Netanyahu said, 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: We're going to save our country. According to the Gaza 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Health Ministry, seven six hundred and fifty Palestinians have now 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: been killed by Israeli forces since October seven, when Hamas 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: launched an attack on Israel. Over the weekend, phone and 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: internet communications went down across the whole of Gaza due 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: to air strikes. According to the Associated Press, these communication 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: channels have now been restored. 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: Former Chinese Premier Lee Ko Chiang has died age sixty eight, 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: after suffering a herd attack in Shanghai. Lee held the 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: role of Premier, the second highest ranking in China, from 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen until retiring earlier this year. He died on 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Friday after attempts to revive him failed. 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Friends actor Matthew Perry has died aged fifty four. According 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: to TMZ, Perry died from drowning. A statement from Warner Bros. 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: Television Group, which produced Friends, said the impact of his 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: comedic genius was felt around the world, and his legacy 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: will live on in the hearts of so many. 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: And in today's good news, the first World Health Organization 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: approved malaria vaccine has cut deaths among young children by 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: thirteen percent in the last four years. Malaria is a 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: life threatening disease bread to humans by some types of mosquitoes. 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: It's believed that death from malaria could continue to decline 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: as vaccines and made more widely available. Anastata palishe thank 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: you so much for joining the daily ours my pleasure. 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: I want to start really broad in your eyes, what 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: is the biggest issue facing young people in Queensland today? 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: I think the biggest issue facing young people is a 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: cost of living that's happening right across Queensland and across Australia. 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 4: So even buying groceries is expensive, cost of fuel, the 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: cost of rent, young people thinking about buying their own home. 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: These are having a big impact on people, especially young people. 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: I hear it from what I'm out and about talking 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: in the community, and also unsure about what the future holds, 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: what career should they go into, how are they going 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: to make ends meet? Can they travel? Is COVID coming 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: back again? So I think it's we're living in a 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: very different world. But hopefully in a few years time 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: everything will settle down. 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: Now, you are in support of the Voice referendum, but 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: Queensland had the highest proportion of no votes. Does that 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: suggest that you, as a leader are out of touch 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: with the opinions of the voters in your state. 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: I think so because it was a national referendum and 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: that no vote resonated across Australia. Referendums to be successful 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: usually need bipartisan support and that's been the history of referendums. 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Were you surprised by how high the proportion of NO 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: voters in Queensland specifically. 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: Were, Well, I think we saw that across the nation. 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: You know, in the Australian public have spoken and as leaders, 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: we have to accept that position. 76 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Now, your government has set out a path to establish 77 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: a treaty with First Nations people. The opposition did support it. 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: I think now in the wake of the referendum, the 79 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: thing that they won't support it. Are you still committed 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: to establishing a treaty? 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: Well, let me say that we passed through legislation and 82 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: it was done in a bipartisan manner. We are committed 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: to the legislation. But what I've said very clearly is 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: that the next stage is the truth telling stage. 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: I just want to be really clear though, so you 86 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: emphasize that there was bipartisan support. Now the opposition has 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: said that they don't support the. 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: Treats, we support our legislation, you're still committed to the 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: next stage. The next stage is the truth telling which 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: will be three to five years. Following that, there will 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 4: be treaties and that would require bipartisan support. 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: I just want to understand the bipartisan support because there 93 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: are a lot of policies that your government pursues without 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 3: having the support of the opposition. So why on this 95 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: issue are you insisting you need bipartisan support. 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: Well, we've seen very clearly that we need to make 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: sure that truth telling is told cross Queensland. 98 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: But with the treaty, why do you need opposition support? 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: Well, the opposition need to explain why they have walked 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: away from this. They need to sit down with the 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: meres and I've been talking to many of the meres 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: and explain why they did it. 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: But why do you need their support for the treaty 104 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: to work? 105 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think we've seen what's happened with the referendum 106 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: not having bipartisan support. 107 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: Now, in August, your government past amendments allowing children to 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: be capta in police watchhouses, even if it would not 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: be compatible with human rights. How do you justify overriding 110 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: young people's human rights? 111 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 4: Well, what we saw is unfortunately people were taking legal 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 4: action against us, which would have meant that some of 113 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: these young people who are serious repeat offenders could have 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: all been released into the community. Since then, I've actually 115 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: personally sat down with the Human Rights Commissioner and the 116 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: heads of the government agencies and what we are going 117 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: to do over the next six to nine months is 118 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: build a dedicated romand facility so there won't be any 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: need for young people to be held in watchhouses for 120 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: any lengthy period of time. 121 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: My understanding is that the initial amendment said that the 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: need to override human rights will expire in twenty twenty six, 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: but you just said it was nine months. 124 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: Well, whenever it's completed sometime next year and then we'll 125 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 4: be able to repeal that. 126 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: So how confident are you that it will be repealed 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: next year? Then? 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: Very confident. 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: The starts show that Queensland is the worst state when 130 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: it comes to ut attention capacity such a problem in Queensland. 131 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: Well, it's an issue nationally. It's not just unique to Queensland, except. 132 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: That it's in terms of capacity at youth attention centers. 133 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: It's more of an issue here. That's what the stats show. 134 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: You are correct. 135 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: There are more people in our youth detention centers. That's 136 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: why we're establishing therapeutic centers. Our best evidence shows us 137 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: if you have smaller centers, we can get access to 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: mental health, to reskilling and training, access to first nations 139 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: elders where applicable. That will help stop the rates of reoffending. 140 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: The solution of building more youth detention centers addresses the 141 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: out of the issue, but it doesn't address the cause. 142 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: What is your government doing to address the cause of 143 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: youth crime. 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, we have got quite a few early intervention and 145 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: prevention programs that are now starting to work. We've got 146 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: some work happening in the Education department about getting kids 147 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: back into school. But some kids can't do mainstream schools. 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: We've got to have wrap around services. We've got a 149 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: great program in townsw at the moment. It's called Stronger 150 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: Communities and what that means is all of the agencies 151 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: are coming together and they're working with the families. They're 152 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: working with the families of the young people who are 153 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: troubled and putting services around them and helping to stop 154 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: that reoffending rate. So you know, these services and early 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: intervention prevention programs take time. 156 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: I want to move to. Housing is a big issue 157 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: in Queensland, as it is for the rest of the country. 158 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: What is your plan to make housing more affordable again. 159 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: Housing is a national issue and there's issues of supply. 160 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: The issue Queensland has is one hundred and forty thousand 161 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: people moved here last year. We have a really strong 162 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: economy here and Queensland is a very attractive place for 163 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: people to live, but one hundred and forty thousand people 164 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: moving here is putting a whole lot of pressure on 165 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: our housing stock. So what we've done is we've identified 166 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: where the new areas are so there's more housing happening there. 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: We've put in new roads, for example in Caloundra and 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: the road was put in ten years ahead of schedule, 169 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: which means now we can open up another housing development area. 170 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: The Deputy Premiere has released an Southeast Queensland Regional Plan 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 4: making sure that the mayors know these are the population 172 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: projections and you need to look at now how you 173 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: are going to meet the requirements needed for the future 174 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: population pressures. 175 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: Now, Queensland has a target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 176 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: by thirty percent below two thousand and five levels, and 177 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: that's below the target set by the federal government as 178 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: well as many other state governments. Might not be more ambitious. 179 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: Well, can I start with our energy and jobs plan? 180 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: So we have launched the most comprehensive energy and jobs 181 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: plan in the nation. We're looking at seventy percent renewable 182 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: energy by twenty thirty two. It's ambitious. We're at twenty 183 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: six percent and we are absolutely changing the landscape of 184 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: Queensland and how we get our power. This is a 185 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 4: massive transformation now in relation to emissions reduction targets. Our 186 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: government will have a lot more to say about that 187 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: in the new year. We're just getting in some more 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: modeling and I'm looking forward to being able to deliver 189 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: some more good news in that space. 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: So are you saying that the target will change. 191 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: Yes. 192 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: Now, you are the last remaining state leader in Australia 193 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: from the pandemic era. You led the state through COVID, 194 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: which other leaders have said took a massive toll on them. 195 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: Are you exhausted, No, I'm not exhausted. COVID was something 196 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: I think it's crossed once in a lifetime. It was 197 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: a very testing time and a time in my life 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: that I will never forget. But I am energized every 199 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 4: day by the people in our state. 200 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: You just had a holiday and you were criticized for 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: it in the media. Does that take its toll when 202 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: you feel like you can't even take a holiday without 203 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: being criticized. 204 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: Well, they don't do it to me, so I'll let 205 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: your listeners think about that. 206 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: There have been a number of state leaders who have 207 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: departed their roles midterm. That was Daniel Andrews, Mark McGowan 208 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: even just into ajourn in New Zealand. Is it an 209 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: option for you that you take labor to the next election. 210 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: Let's say you win and then you leave midterm. 211 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm absolutely commitsed. 212 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Well, you are the Minister for Olympics, so does that 213 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: mean that we can expect to see you in the 214 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: position in twenty thirty two. 215 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: Let's not go there. 216 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: And a stage of paliche. Thank you so much for 217 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: joining the Daily ours. 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: Thank you, it's my pleasure. 219 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: Thanks very much for listening to this episode of The 220 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: Daily oas I think it's a real privilege for us 221 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: to be able to interview the decision makers and the 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: powermakers in this country, and it's all thanks to you 223 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: that we are in a position to do so. If 224 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: you have enjoyed this episode, we would love if you 225 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: could leave us a review if you're listening on Apple Podcast, 226 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: have a great day and we'll be back again tomorrow.