1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalist Sophie 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and Amy Torber. Thank you guys for joining us again. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: We're actually recording this on Sunday nights, and it's been 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: quite an eventful weekend, hasn't it. So yes, there have 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: been a few interesting things going on. This will probably 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: shock a lot of my friends who are hopefully listick 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: to this, but after if you're listening, Owen, after sixteen 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: years of being vegetarian, I have been forced to start 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: eating meat this week and it has. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Been quite a wild ride. What was that like start? 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, because I obviously I've been vegetarian, but I've 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: been pescatarian for the last year and a half and 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: I know that was weird eating tuna and different fish. Well, 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing it is because I went to 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the doctor and I got a blood test and I 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: had the lowest B twelve and iron levels that ever 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: seen in someone. So I decided that I had to 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: do something pretty drastic about it. 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: I'd be feeling awful as well. 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing your boyfriend Brandon's quite happy about it, because 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: he for those who don't know, so his boyfriend is 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: a country boy, it's a very lovely guy called Brandon, 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and he is just your sort of typical meat and 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: three vegs. Yeah, we currently live together and all he 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: cooks up for dinner is steak, so he's been so 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: excited to try and get me. Well, I haven't tried 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: a steak yet, but I've tried chicken, and he nicely 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: cooked me some chicken the other week. But yeah, it's 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: been it's been very strange. Are you feeling better though? 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I actually am feeling so much better, so much better. 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: I also had a B twelve shot and that was 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: like feeling like a different person. So I'm all revived 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and up and about for this week. And how was 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: your weekend? You had a few interesting things happen. Yes, 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: it has been interesting, and it's going to be our 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: first topic for tonight. Actually it's all about Bucks and 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Hens parties. 38 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: So, as you might have guessed, my. 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Boyfriend Dale, he had a Bucks party on this weekend. 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: He drove up Friday night and they stayed over Saturday night. 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: It's one of his oldest friends and he had quite 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: a revelation for you on Friday night when you were saying, no, 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: this was Thursday night or Thursday night. 44 00:01:59,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Dale told me, oh, sort of just in passing that 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: there was going to be topless waitresses at the Bucks party. 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: And I was quite surprised. 48 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Because I don't know, I just didn't really think that 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: people did that anymore. Like I know that there would 50 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: be some, but this his group of friends is, you know, 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: a really lovely group of friends. 52 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: Not saying that people. 53 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Aren't lovely who do it, but I was really shocked 54 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: that that was something that they deem as being important 55 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: to have there. It seems like quite a dated concept 56 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. I don't know, it's something that I 57 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: feel like we've moved past doing. I mean a lot 58 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: of the guys that I'm friendly with now will go 59 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: on a wine tour or ma shirmishing. I feel like 60 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: it's something you're getting married to. You're making the biggest 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: commitment of your life. 62 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: What is the point? 63 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Well, the issue I was facing is Dale wasn't one 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: of the organizers, so there was I think there's about 65 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: twenty guys who went, and obviously the best men organized 66 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: this party and had the topless waitresses coming to it. 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: I thought, wait a sec, so there's gonna be a 68 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: bunch of guys at this secluded airbnb and just literally 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: naked girls while they're all drunk, and I thought that 70 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: didn't sit well with me. I actually thought, wait a sec, 71 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: that's even worse than a stripper, because a stripper just 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: strips and then leaves. They don't try and I'm assuming 73 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: don't really talk to the men and whatever. But from 74 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: what people have said, they're like, oh my god, no, 75 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: strippers are. 76 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: So much worse. But it turns out. 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: These waitresses weren't just waitresses, they were also strippers. So 78 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I did get a rather frantic call from you on Friday, 79 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: telling me and asking my opinion on whether or not 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: it was okay that you were mad about it. I 81 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it was frantic, but I just wanted to 82 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I felt weird about it, and I didn't know if 83 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: I was being oversensitive about it or whatever. But the 84 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: thing is, I completely trust Dale one hundred percent. It 85 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: wasn't that. It's more the concept of, like, I just 86 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: think it's I just think it's degrading to the women, 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: and I think, does it really have to be that way? 88 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: As you were saying, people are committing to you know, 89 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: this guy is committing to his fiance. Why is it 90 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: okay to celebrate with nude women? I think it's quite 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: funny because there'd never be any other situation where your 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: boyfriend's going away for a weekend and it would be 93 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: acceptable for them to have a bunch of nude women 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: rock up, you know, a friend's birthday. 95 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that just reminded me. 96 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny because after Amy told me about 97 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: these topless waitresses, I did a bit of googling to 98 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: see if I could find out a bit more about 99 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: the services they offer. 100 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: What a good sister, I am a great sister. 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: And it shocked me because it was saying on the 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: website that, you know, they're encouraged to. 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Be flirty with the guys. I don't know. 104 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: That just annoyed me because, as you say, if you're 105 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: getting a topless waitress, and they are, they're purely deserved drinks. Okay, 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: not that I'd feel great about that, but at least 107 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: there's no conversation happening. There's no chance of these people 108 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 1: striking up conversations with your partner. Well, yeah, that's exactly 109 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: how I felt about it. And it's interesting because obviously 110 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: it's now Sunday night and the Bucks party has been. 111 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: I've heard the lowdown about the Bucks. 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Party, and it's quite interesting because Dale said that basically 113 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the waitresses being there, who I may add, turned into 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: triple ex waitresses, so that means they were also strippers. 115 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: But what happened was it actually caused a divide amongst 116 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: the men, so they were the ones that had well 117 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: they were obviously in committed relationships that decided to step 118 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: outside while all of this X rated business was going on, 119 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: and the waitresses called them all this is a very 120 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: doggish term, called them all faggots. 121 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: I was like, are you serious? I was like, who 122 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: are these women? I was saying to Dale. 123 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: It almost makes me feel sad if I if I 124 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: ever have a son that it seems very hard to 125 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: be a boy these days because you either have to 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: impress your friends or obviously if you've got a partner, 127 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to disrespect them. They're in this range 128 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: place where they're told that this is normal, and you 129 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: watch movies like Hangover and if you don't have a 130 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: wild Bucks night, then have you really had fun. I 131 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: actually spoke to some male friends about it because I 132 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: was interested to get their opinion on the topic, and 133 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: they were saying that because it's your last night of freedom, 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: you should be allowed to go out with a bang, 135 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: And I told I can understand where they're coming from. 136 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: But at the same time, doesn't it just open up 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: a Pandora's box like this? 138 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: Pardon the pun. 139 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's really interesting because I read this piece 140 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: recently by Emma Rowland from Mamma Mia, and it's entitled 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: my husband has booked a stripper through his mate's Bucks 142 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: party and I'm not okay, And I'll just read your 143 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: little excerpt from it because I thought this summed it up. 144 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: She wrote, I hate this whole situation, and I hate 145 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: what my inner response says about me. That I'm a 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: cure joy or insecure or controlling or petty. That just 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be a fair assessment. Why do I 148 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: have to be fine with it? Why is it an 149 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: expectation that just because another bloke is getting married, I 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: must not and smile when my husband calls a woman 151 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: over to a private address for some naked entertainment. 152 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: It may be. 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Tradition, albeit arguably a warp dated, tacky and sexist one, 154 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: but it doesn't make sense. On any other night this 155 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: would not be a sure honey situation, which is so true. 156 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: So someone just on a Saturday night invited nude girls, 157 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: you would dump their ass immediately. But it sounds like 158 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: we're just harping on about Bucks parties, But hens do 159 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: it too. That question has come up with a few 160 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: of my male friends. Well, what about the fact that 161 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: women can have topless waiters? One, I think it's completely 162 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: different because you can go down to a beach and 163 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: see a man with his top off. You can't go 164 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: down to a beach and see a woman with her 165 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: top off. The other thing as well, is I think 166 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: they do a beach the other thing as well as 167 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I think, not to sound sexist, but I think majority 168 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: of men and women are wired completely differently. A lot 169 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: of women, if a male stripper comes to a hen's party, 170 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: they will kind of be repulsed or think it's a 171 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: bit corny and embarrassing to get involved. But also I 172 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: have an issue as well with the fact that I 173 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: know these women are choosing to do this as a job, 174 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: but I still feel like it's a completely it's completely 175 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: disrespectful to the. 176 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: Women as well. 177 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: It is, and that's what I said today, or that's 178 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: why I said, I'm also sort of well, I'm opposed 179 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: to it because I think that it's completely degrading to 180 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: both men and women who are at these things, the waitresses, 181 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: because it's viewing them as sex objects and it's everyone's 182 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: sitting around sniggering about it. There is the argument that 183 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: some people feel empowered in these situations because it's their choice, 184 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: it's what they want to do. I think that's bullshit 185 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: because it's as in, obviously you earn a lot of 186 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: money to do it. So most of the women who 187 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: would be doing this and the X rated stuff would 188 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: be women who were doing it to make money, and 189 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: that's sad because they might be on the bones of 190 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: their ass and they might think, oh, no, this is 191 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: the only thing I can do to make money. They're 192 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: sure there would be some high class ones maybe who 193 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: feel empowered by it, but the sort of stuff that 194 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I heard they. 195 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: Were doing, I don't think was empowering. 196 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Well, it was quite interesting because at the last PR 197 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: firm I worked for the boss. Actually, as well as 198 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: owning the PR firm, he also owned a popular strip 199 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: club in Adelaide. 200 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I won't say which one it is, we shanna know there. No, 201 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: she had to know it. 202 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Was not at this strip club, but anyway, every year, 203 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: all of the boss's venues would get together for a 204 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: Christmas party, and instead of being able to sit with 205 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the girls at the PR firm that I worked with, 206 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: we were all chosen. We were all asked to select 207 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: a ball from a bucket randomly, and whatever color came 208 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: up that would be the table. 209 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Wou'd be sitting at. 210 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: And it turned out that I randomly was put on 211 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: a table that consisted of the rest of the women 212 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: were actually strippers. And I was a bit nervous about 213 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: this situation because I didn't want to act as if 214 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I was somehow looking down at them and looking down. 215 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: At their job. 216 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to be really open minded. So, 217 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, I started conversation up with some of the women, 218 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: and it did open my eyes to the fat that 219 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: these women have numerous jobs, and some of them were mums, 220 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: some of them had partners, and they are really working 221 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: hard to make a living for themselves. And a lot 222 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: of them were saying that it's actually not even about 223 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: the nudity or the stripping for a lot of men, 224 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: it's about the fact that some of these men are 225 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: so lonely that they don't actually they've never had a 226 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: relationship with women. So a lot of the high rollers 227 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: who had come in and put down all this money 228 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: were actually just wanting the women to sit and talk 229 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: to them. 230 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually found that quite sad. 231 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: It is sad, and I think we need to point 232 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: out though, there's a huge difference between strippers who are 233 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: at performing at venues and strippers and waitresses who go 234 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: to private events, because there's lots of rules in place 235 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: at strip clubs that you know, the men analogy, this, 236 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: men analogy that. But when you get these X rated 237 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: waitresses who they find on gum Tree or I don't 238 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: even know where they found these vesicular women, that's when 239 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: things happen that wouldn't be allowed in a strip club. 240 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: Do you know what's so scary? Sorry, it sounds like 241 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: I've got all these bloody stripper stories. When I was 242 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: in Sydney, I believe it was when you were over 243 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: for the Cadet ship, Baby and I tagged along for 244 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the trip. Anyway, I decided to go down to Pitt 245 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Street mall and have a bit of a shop, and 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: this man approached me, this kind of older looking man, 247 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: and he stopped me on the street and asked me 248 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: if I'd ever done any modeling before, and I just 249 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: laughed and I just was you know when you kind 250 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: of like, where's the candid camera? 251 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: And I just said no. 252 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: And then he asked me if I was over eighteen, 253 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: and at the time I was twenty seven. Anyway, the 254 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: conversation got even weirder because he asked me if I'd 255 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: be interested in doing any sort of Ralph is that 256 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: the magazine Ralph or Zoom? And I was like what, 257 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: And I just said, oh, no, that's not at. 258 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: This it look like ah was he old? 259 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: He was just kind of old and skinny, like he 260 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: maybe fifties, so it's not that old anyway. And then 261 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: he hands me his card and I just wanted to 262 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: get away from this man, so I took the card 263 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: and just walked away. Anyway, I was intrigued, so I 264 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: looked it up later that night and it turned out 265 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: that it was for a high class escort agency in Sydney, 266 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: and I was just one embarrassed that I had been approached, 267 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: but to actually really scared that these people are just 268 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: in shopping centers on the hunt for women. They think 269 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: that will get involved in this sort of thing. And 270 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose maybe some women in some bizarre 271 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: world to be flattered by this and maybe go and 272 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: do it and be But they were selling it for 273 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: something that wasn't as well. They were selling it as modeling, 274 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: but actually it's escorting. So that's what's disturbing. So you 275 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: do have to have a bit of sympathy for some 276 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: of the women who do find themselves in these situations, 277 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: because it's not all black and white every time. It 278 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: does raise an interesting question, would you let your boyfriend 279 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: have a stripper at his Bucks party or topless waitresses? 280 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: I have to say no, I wouldn't be happy about it. 281 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: My boyfriend, Brandon, he doesn't drink as it is, which 282 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: is something I'm so happy about. He just wouldn't want 283 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: to disrespect me in that way. He wouldn't want me 284 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: to have a stripper at my party. And you know, 285 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel comfortable if he had one of his. 286 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: It's not because I don't trust him. I trust him 287 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, but I just don't think it's a 288 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: way to enjoy your last night of freedom. Why don't 289 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: you actually have a great connection with your friends. Why 290 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: don't you actually be celebrating the fact that you've met 291 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: someone so special in your life instead of having some 292 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: random woman get a tits. 293 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: Out in front of you. 294 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: I actually read an article from this year that said 295 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: that millennials are steering away from having strippers at Bucks 296 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: and Hen's Night, and they quoted this groom as saying 297 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: that he just wanted to spend time with his friends. 298 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: And when you're in a strip club, you're not really 299 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: talking to people, so it's more about spending time quality 300 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: of time with boys. 301 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 302 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: And when you're talking about Dale's situation, where because some 303 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: guys felt uncomfortable at the situation and then was this 304 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: segregation in the group, you know, no one wants to 305 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: be made to feel uncomfortable at these events. Yeah, And 306 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: I mean he did say he had a great time 307 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: when it was just the boys bonding with each other 308 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: and having a fun weekend. And I don't see why 309 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: it can't just be left at that. And we'd love 310 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: to know what you guys think about the topic. We've 311 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: added a poll to our Facebook page, so if you 312 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: want to find us at Outspoken Underscore, The Underscored Podcast 313 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear your opinion. We'll also be having 314 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: a poll on our Instagram account and our Insta story, 315 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: so check us out also on Instagram at Outspoken Underscore 316 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: the Underscore podcast. 317 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: So Twitter has. 318 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: Been sent into meltdown with news Miley Cyrus and our 319 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: very own Liam Hensworth have called it quits after just 320 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: six months of marriage. The couple, who met ten years 321 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: ago on the set of Last Song, released a statement 322 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: saying they are parting ways to focus on themselves and 323 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: their careers. Just hours after the news broke, Miley was 324 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: spotted in Italy sharing a kiss with Brody Jenner's ex wife, 325 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Caitlin Carter Sophie, Why have people been so invested in 326 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: this relationship? I think people are invested because we feel 327 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: like we've been through so much together in this relationship. 328 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: They've had a pretty tumultuous relationship that were initially engaged 329 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: in June twenty twelve, called it off in September twenty thirteen, 330 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and then rumors started happening in twenty sixteen that the 331 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 1: engagement was back on, which made so many fans excited. 332 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Then in December last year, they shouted Instagram revealing that 333 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: they had a very low key ceremony in Nashville, and 334 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: people were just so excited that they finally made it work. 335 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: But I think something particularly Australians also love is the 336 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: fact that we've been able to kind of claim Miley 337 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: as one of our own. 338 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: Now you know, she. 339 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Actually got a Veggiemite tattoo done in her arm. She's 340 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: been hat charming, hanging out a lot in Sydney. So 341 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I feel like we are all very invested in this 342 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: relationship and are upset that it's now over. It's about 343 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: that I don't really care. Wells supposed it depends whether 344 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: you like Miley or not. The only thing that upset 345 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: me about them being together was I feel like her 346 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: music wasn't as good when they got back together. 347 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Shouldn't we be happy that Liam Hemsworth is back. 348 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: On the market And I was pretty excited to hear 349 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: that Brodie Jenner was back on the market as well. 350 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: If our boyfriends are listing, you don't act you really care. 351 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: We're just trying to sound cool. And they released a 352 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: pretty interesting statement about their breakup, and the line that 353 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I found most interesting was they said they still remained 354 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: dedicated to parents, to all of their animals they share 355 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: while lovingly taking this time apart. So for those who 356 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: don't know, they actually have thirteen pets between them. Oh god, 357 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: And that's what broke my heart a little bit as well, 358 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: the fact that they know they had this relationship ten years, 359 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: they've got, you know, these beautiful. 360 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: Pets to do. Care about the animals? 361 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I do. 362 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: I do care about the animals. 363 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to be well looked after the 364 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: amount of money they have between them. It also sounded 365 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: like they were kind of open to getting back together 366 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: at some point. Well to me, I actually haven't seen 367 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: that much. I heard about their wedding and they seem 368 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: very much in love. Have there been any signs that 369 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: they've been on the rocks? Like any celebrity couple, They've 370 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: obviously been a lot of rumors around the place. I 371 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: think the thing that threw a lot of people off 372 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: was in June, they celebrated their tenure anniversary, and Miley 373 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: did so by hitting back at critics on Twitter, and 374 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: she shared a post where people were questioning whether their 375 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: relationship was fact or fiction, and she said, good to 376 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: see everyone is as dumb as they were in twenty nineteen. 377 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: Happy ten year anniversary Might Love. Last month, they were 378 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: also in the spotlight for saying that they didn't want 379 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: to bring children into the world because they're very environmentally focused, 380 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: and they said they will only think about having children 381 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: once there are enough fish in the water. 382 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have thirteen animals. 383 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it was a big shock to 384 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: a lot of fans who have been following them for 385 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: ten years. It is sad, I suppose, because it does 386 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: seem like Liam really calmed Miley down, because the only 387 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: time when Miley was huge that was during her I 388 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: suppose much talked about breakup when she released Wrecking Ball. 389 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: That's when she perceivably went off the rails, cut a 390 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: hair off, was flying around on giant hot. 391 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: Dogs and whatnot. 392 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think that Miley has never shied away 393 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: from that side of herself. I mean, in a recent 394 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: interview with l magazine, she did say that she didn't 395 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: you her marriage to Leenne was traditional, and she described 396 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: their union as confusing, complex and modern. And then she 397 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: also pointed out the fact that she is in this 398 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: heterosexual relationship, but she's still very much sexually attracted to women, 399 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: So that would be something that is difficult to deal 400 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: with in a relationship. So, despite Miley being quite open 401 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: about her sexuality, it has shocked fans today to find 402 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: out that there were paparazzi shots of Miley Cyrus out 403 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: with Brodie Jenna's ex wife kissing in Italy. Basically, can 404 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: you tell us more about them? So, yeah, the two 405 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: have been on what the media is saying is a 406 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: girl's trip, and she's been. Miley's been very eagerly documenting 407 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: the trip. She put up a video of her twerking, 408 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, wearing little bikinis, not looking very sad at 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: all or emotional about the situation. And fans were first 410 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: alerted because there was a photo of her without her 411 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: wedding ring on. But then, of course these photos have 412 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: now surfaced of Miley and Caitlin sunbaking together, laughing, massaging 413 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: each other, sharing a kiss. And it's pretty interesting because 414 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Caitlyn has only broken up with Brodie Jennet. They announced 415 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: their separation a week ago. Well, I'm assuming that these 416 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: sort of Hollywood separations would be sort of months in 417 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: the planning and then announced probably months after they've actually split. 418 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: Miley and Caitlyn probably have a lot in common at 419 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: the moment because they were both their marriages both only 420 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: lasted a year, and it's actually come out that their 421 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: marriage wasn't actually legal. 422 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: Oh really, it wasn't recognized in America. 423 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: So I mean, maybe that's made the divorce process or 424 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: separation process a little bit easier. What got me thinking 425 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: was the release of these photos. So we've just found 426 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: out today that that Miley and Liam have split, but 427 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: then photos of Caitlyn and Miley kissing surface today. It 428 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: made me think, was that a stage paparazzi shop. Well 429 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: what confused me was I actually saw the photos of 430 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: them kissing before I heard about the split, So I 431 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: was shocked when I saw them. It made me think 432 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: that maybe they had to put out this statement about 433 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: their separation because they knew. 434 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: The photos were coming out. 435 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: That's a good point possibly, but yeah, it'd be interesting 436 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: to know the exact timing of the announcement and the 437 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: release of the photos because I saw them. 438 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: You know, I saw the photos first. 439 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, I saw Facebook go crazy, I just saw the 440 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: breakup stuff, and then I saw the photos and I 441 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, that explains it. In looking at 442 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: both of the way these couples have put out their 443 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: statements about their relationship breakdowns. It is interesting because they're 444 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: always filled with statements like we will continue our loving relationship. 445 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: For instance, in Brodi and Caitlin's statement, they said they 446 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: love and respect one another and know that this is 447 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: the best decision for their relationship moving forward. 448 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry they don't have a relationship anymore. 449 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: Well, they can't really say, oh, we've had a massive 450 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: row and we've someone's cheated and we hate each other's guts. 451 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: You can't really put that in a statement. 452 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: But how does it help anyone else out there who's 453 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: broken up with someone and thinks, oh, well, I not 454 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: in this amicable split. 455 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: Maybe there's something wrong with it. I don't think people. 456 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Actually believe it's amicable. They can read between the lines. 457 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: But how is it amicable split when they're off now 458 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: with other people as well straight away? 459 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: Isn't that a bit of a fuck you? 460 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, as I said, who knows when they actually split 461 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: as opposed to when it's made official. In Caitlyn Carter's defense, 462 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: Brody has also been spotted out and about in town 463 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: surrounded by girls, so I don't think he's completely innocent 464 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: in yeah, they probably split ages ago. And what I'm 465 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: wondering is this going to be on The New Hills. No, 466 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: well it actually I've done a little It actually has 467 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: been mentioned on the Hills. A lot of fans weren't 468 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: shocked because The Hills the Hills portrayed their relationship to 469 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: be crumbling, so a lot of people were already seeing 470 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: this split happening before it did actually occur. Well, what 471 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: I want to know is does this mean Miley Cyrus 472 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: is going to be. 473 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: On The Hills? 474 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Well, probably not, because Brodie's the main character on there. 475 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: I think Caitlyn's probably lost her spot. Damn. And now 476 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: move on to our favorite headlines of the week, will 477 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: of course start with a batchy one. So this is 478 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: about bachelor Matt Agnew. It's from the Daily Mail and 479 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: it reads I put on a few kilos the Bachelor 480 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: Matt angu reveals his weight struggles and amits he often 481 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: skips meals to keep in shape. That's an interesting one 482 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: because there has been a lot of talk about what 483 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: Matt looked like before and I'm assuming he has had 484 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a Batchy makeover, which is understand 485 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: he's got his abs and whatnot, but it's kind of 486 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: funny because I find it intriguing because this is sort 487 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: of the way that the media talk about women, and 488 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: now they're turning it onto men, which is great. I 489 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: love equality. But did you find it odd that they 490 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: were talking about his weight? There have been so many 491 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: articles about his appearance. There was another article next to 492 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: it from a ten insider who was a makeup artist, 493 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: denying that he'd had any plastic surgery done and. 494 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: Kind of breaking down to have had done. It's absolutely ridiculous. 495 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: He's got glasses on in one picture and no glasses 496 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: in the other. That's the only plastic that there is, 497 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: the glasses. 498 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 499 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: Well, Matt did talk about how he did try and 500 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: get in shape for the filming, so he was doing 501 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: a bit of intermitute fasting. He was actually only eating 502 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: in a window of four to six hours, so it 503 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: did seem like a pretty big extreme make of it. Yeah, 504 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: so he says that he he only eight for four 505 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: to six hours a day. I said he was eating 506 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: his daily meals in four to six hour window, so 507 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: that is pretty crazy. And he was also running three 508 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: times a week and lifting weights four times a week, 509 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: so he probably was strict instructions from bachelor projuices, so 510 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: batchy girls don't expect his body to look like that 511 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: after the show, I'm assuming. Well, he did say that 512 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: he put on a lot of weight when he was 513 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: at UNI studying his astrophysicist course. I'm not sure what 514 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: that is, but makes me like it more. Moving on 515 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: to the next headline, Kylie Jenner celebrates twenty second birthday 516 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: wearing diamond necklace on Italian yacht and that was from Yahoosa. 517 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: Isn't surprising that's how. 518 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner would celebrate her birthday in diamonds and on 519 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: a yacht in Italy. Well, I loved that so much 520 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: as going down in Italy at the moment. First the 521 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Miley Sarah stuff, then the Kardashian clan is there geez? 522 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: When I was in Italy, I didn't see any of 523 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: the Kardashians anyone. Maybe I was staying at the wrong place. 524 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: They're probably waiting till all the tourists get out of there. Yeah, 525 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: it's not a surprise that the billionaire mogul was celebrating 526 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: her birthday in style. She was spotted off the coast 527 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: of Capri on a three hundred foot ship reported to 528 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: cost one point two million dollars per week to rent, 529 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: probably a cheap one for her. I've actually shocked that 530 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: she's twenty two. I know she's had a baby, but 531 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: I just I think she was probably at the height 532 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: of her fame when she was sixteen, and there was 533 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: all the controversy over her dating Tiger and the lip fillers. 534 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: So it's kind of odd that now it's like she's 535 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: twenty two. 536 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, she's not grown up now. 537 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well. She also shared some interesting gifts that she 538 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: received now Travis Scott. Her baby daddy gave her a 539 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: diamond necklace in the shape of the Kylie Cosmetics logo. 540 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty impressive. 541 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: H a bit taggy, But can you imagine if you 542 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: were just her, if you were an everyday friend of hers, 543 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: having to get her a birthday gift, like could you 544 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: just give her a glasshouse. 545 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: Candle or that? Do you think so frowned upon? 546 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: She's also been sharing a lot of the lavish decorations 547 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: on the ship, and there was a huge cut out 548 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: twenty two mat out of sunflowers. They would you know 549 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: how all the Kardashians, they must have someone who was 550 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: making a shitload from balloons from here. The whole hallway 551 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: was filled with yellow and white balloons. It was and 552 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: she's got all of her favorite people there. It was 553 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: interesting though Chloe is not there, which was Yeah, I'm 554 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: not quite but Chloe does prioritize her family life, I 555 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: think a little bit over these celebrations, and she may 556 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: have maybe she didn't want to take her baby to Italy. 557 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because Scott Disick and his girlfriend Sophia 558 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Richier there, probably because Sofia Richie's around the same agent. 559 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: Probably they probably cannot. 560 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I just say though, anytime I see a 561 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Kardashian celebration, I mean, I'm one of these people who 562 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: I love looking on Boxing Day their Christmas Day celebration 563 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: because it's just so epic and the Easter is amazing. 564 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: But I feel like each celebration have to keep topping 565 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: and topic. What is it going to be when Kylie 566 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: turns forty? Yeah, it's absolutely crazy talking about presence. It 567 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of people got it right, like 568 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Travis Scott, but Caitlyn Jennet didn't seem to get it right. Now, 569 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what she actually gave Kylie as a gift. 570 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: But you know the Kardashians are very big on posting 571 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: elaborate messages on Instagram. Yeah, well, Caitlyn accidentally posted a 572 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: photo of Kendall instead of Kylie. It was a photo 573 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: of Caitlin holding who he thought was Kylie but was 574 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: actually Kendall and she was about three in the photos. 575 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 2: It was a pretty eye could pick it. 576 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Jeez, that's a bit orkies, say, am I just something 577 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: her dad would do? Yeah? Moving on to the next 578 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: headline is about former bachelorette sar Sam Frost. Now this 579 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: was a pretty sad one. It was reshared on Mamma 580 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: Mia but originally written for a publication called Believe Online, 581 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: and the headline reads, Sam Frost, I was in a 582 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: psychologically abusive relationship for eighteen months. 583 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 584 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: So Sam has written this open letter about how she 585 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: thought she was madly in love, thought she finally found 586 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: her soulmate until she started seeing a psychologist who told 587 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: her what she was experiencing was not normal and there 588 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: was something very wrong in this relationship. 589 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 590 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: I read that article and I thought it was very 591 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: brave of Sam to share that because I think it 592 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: will help a lot of women out there who might 593 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: be a bit blind to what relationship they're in. So 594 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: if you want to tell us some of the things 595 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: Sam had to say so on a regular basis, Sam 596 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: said that her partner would say, you're lucky to be 597 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: with me. No one else would put up with you. 598 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: He'd ask her why he think why she thinks that 599 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: every guy she's ever been with is broken up with her. 600 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: Sam sadly also struggled with has Sam also struggled with depression, 601 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: and he would kind of use this as her weak spot. 602 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Can I just say what guy would be with her? 603 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: She was on the bat, she was the bachelorette, she. 604 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: Had about forty guys. Again, all these men fir what 605 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: a dick? Who said that? 606 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: She also said she changed the way she looked. She 607 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: got skinnier, would wear a push up bra, dyed her 608 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: hair backblonde so she could look like the other girls 609 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: that her partner was following and messaging on Instagram. 610 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: Sounds like a great guy. 611 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think she brought up a very 612 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: important topic because toxic relationships are extremely common, but they're 613 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: so rarely talked about. So it was great that you know, 614 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: some young, young girls are being able to read this 615 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: and maybe relate to some of these things and realize. 616 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: It's not okay. 617 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she has been very big about this. I 618 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: think actually you said she wrote it for a website 619 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: called Believe. I believe that that website is actually her 620 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: own organization. 621 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: Because she's very Oh that makes sense. 622 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's talked a lot about her depression and 623 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: recently her boyfriend, her new boyfriend who. 624 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: Sounds so lovely. He wrote a letter. 625 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: I think it was another open letter to Sam, and 626 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: it was basically talking about what it's like to date 627 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: somebody with depression and the struggles that you go through. 628 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: And it sounds to me as if she's met her. 629 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: It sounds to me that she's finally met someone lovely 630 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: and who's caring for her. So it is really great 631 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: to hear that Sam's in a healthy relationship now. Our 632 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: last headline is about Love Island star Molly May. Even 633 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: though this series is over, the Love Island stars are 634 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: still attracting a lot of attention. The headline was from 635 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail and it reads Love Island star Molly 636 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: May's young fans are charged more than double the amount 637 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: adults pay for a meet and greet as she takes 638 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: private jet between public appearances. 639 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: What is all this hate on Molly May? 640 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: I really liked Molly May, but it seems a media 641 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: have just gone after her, which I find quite disturbing 642 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: as well, following the two suicides that have happened after 643 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: the show. The China Love Island have been sort of 644 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: open about that they're trying to be more caring towards 645 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: the contestants, but it seems Amedia and fans are just 646 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: going after Molly May, and I honestly don't get it. 647 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't get it either. She's a twenty year old 648 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: girl who's actually genuinely found love on the show. I 649 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: think some people might not like her because she seems 650 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: so put together and she speaks very well, and she 651 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: had this following before she went on the show, But 652 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's what majority of them were there for. 653 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved her on Love Island. 654 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: I was shocked when I saw people were bagging her, 655 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: and I wondered if I had anything to do with 656 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: the fact that she's with Tommy, because I know Tommy 657 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: would be a fan favorite for girls. So is it 658 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: that some younger women are lashing out at her? Because 659 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: they really like Tommy. 660 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: Is that what? 661 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: This is? 662 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: Like an immature kind of thing, Like I'm. 663 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Not sure, but I mean I thought the article was 664 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: quite ridiculous because they said that, so they've you know, 665 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: emphasized the fact that she's flown in I'm a private 666 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: jet to Ireland to meet kids at an under eighteen disco. 667 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: So how much do you think she's charging to meet 668 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: these kids? 669 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: But is it she's charging them or she's just an 670 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: appearance fee for a disco that's been organized for these kids. 671 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 672 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: The Daily Mail didn't specify, but it is being charged 673 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: charged to each child? 674 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh, fifteen dollars? 675 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know they're charging eighteen pounds. 676 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: I didn't think that was that obscene. Oh how much 677 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: does it cost to normally see her there? 678 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: So apparently she was appearing Saturday night to adults at 679 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: a nightclub and they were charging five to seven pounds 680 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: to meet her. That's a bit different if you're just 681 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: meeting her. Obviously, that's entry to this disco, and maybe 682 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: is it going to is it going to a charity 683 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: or anything? 684 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 685 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: But what the Daily Mail seemed to have an issue 686 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: with was eighteen pounds was a starting point, so there 687 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: was also another package where you could pay more to 688 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: get selfies with her. Well, I think that's the disco's fault, 689 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: not Molly May's. At the end of the day, what 690 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: are the other Love Island stars charging? 691 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Do you know what I mean? 692 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: If you want to pay eighteen pounds to see Molly 693 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: mate paid? If you don't, don't. 694 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: If this is like an adult walk see what kids 695 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: are watching Love Islands? But that's so inappropriate. It is 696 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: quite In England it is seen as a family show. 697 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: I think that's why it's been tamed. 698 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: Down a lot. She is it really because when I 699 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: was in England it wasn't on at like seven o'clock. 700 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I think pretty sure it was on eight thirty. And 701 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: you think, I mean, how were young are these kids 702 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: at the disco? Well they were under eighteen, so I 703 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: suppose it could be teenagers. But as we were talking 704 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: about before, Olie May has copped a lot of flak. 705 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I watched the reunion episode last night and surprisingly Anton, 706 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: who I love as well, has been really awful to her. 707 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: He's actually gone and unfollowed her from Instagram. 708 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: Anyone who listens to. 709 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: The podcast will know that Sophie cannot stand anybody on 710 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: it just don't stand for that. 711 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: That is a crime in her books. 712 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I just think it's a real dick move. His excuse 713 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: was I didn't follow her. My management followed her originally 714 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: when I was in the Villa, and I choose to 715 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: unfollow her because we didn't talk much in the Villain. Yeah, 716 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: I was surprised because I liked Anton too, and I 717 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: just thought that was a dick move. Thank you so 718 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: much for joining us. 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