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Speaker 2: We're back now, which is good news.

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Speaker 1: Contract and do you know what will be in the

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Speaker 1: Who would have known.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we're going to be having a lot

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Speaker 3: of well, I'm going to be having a lot of

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Speaker 3: fun because we've changed the thing that we're recording with

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Speaker 3: today and I'm now in control of all the party,

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Speaker 1: I would have said, direct penis and not much job.

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Speaker 1: There's my quote puerile humor leaking into this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, We'll be running through our latest feedback closer

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Speaker 1: Paul's Just so you know, Paul's are totally in control

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Speaker 1: want to say, why are you Croatian dancing? Why are

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Speaker 3: Yes, so he can control a little bit of it.

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Speaker 3: And before we get started, I don't know if you noticed,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. We should have got a cut from that.

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Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is Honda is one of the

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Speaker 3: Come on, sorry, I just thought we did this on

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Speaker 2: No, it came close. Okay, he comes back for seconds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for those of you who haven't seen it, it

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Speaker 2: Bags off and he cuts see.

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Speaker 3: Any like, someone that does that is just an idiot,

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Speaker 3: Like if someone cuts you off in traffic. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: dot where we've got it down the bottom. They're embedded

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Speaker 1: People are mentally ill when you see that shit, People

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how do you explain that to your

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Speaker 3: I was tailgating someone and then I decided to ram

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Speaker 3: It's like, that is thousands of dollars worth of damage.

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Speaker 3: Knock that one out of the ballpark anyway, something fun

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Speaker 3: You can literally have parked on the side of the

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Speaker 1: It gives them them. Do you imagine didn't go into

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Speaker 3: But it's like the fact that they're allowed to do

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Speaker 2: I just don't think they're going to change anything, to

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Speaker 1: I love how they like they've put this in a

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Speaker 1: Do you know how much it costs to send someone

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Speaker 3: I just this is a very very very small handful

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Speaker 2: If they put this much effort into.

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Speaker 3: Just hiring more police officers to just be allocated to

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Speaker 2: Laws in parliament and waste all this time.

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Speaker 1: Also, what constitutes a whon? Is it someone breaking the

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Speaker 2: Anything like Victoria, it's at their discretion. So you could

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Speaker 3: The lights and it would be a hoon offence and

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Speaker 1: Did you get a little bit excited over the sneak

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Speaker 3: So if you don't know what we're talking about, images

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, look, I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 1: It needed to happen, like there's hindsight. It's a beautiful

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Speaker 1: It is an on one. I wonder if that'll actually

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Speaker 3: f I fifties in record numbers, the Lightning, they're selling

444
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: stacks of Hummer Evs, Rivians, and all of those vehicles

445
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: look significantly better and more useful in my opinion. So

446
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: I know some people like the design of it, but

447
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: I just think it'll just yeah, it's just not not great.

448
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: But I think by the time they get to the party,

449
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: I just I don't think it'll be that spectacular as

450
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: it once was. Like the shop values well and truly

451
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: worn off. I just can't see it happening. Ye should

452
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: we talk type R Yeah, let's do it now. I

453
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: want I want to bring to the table. Is this

454
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: the most? Is there too much over hype with this car? Personally?

455
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: I was never a type ARE guy. I was never

456
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: I was never a Honda guy in this sort of scene.

457
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I was. I never understood the red seats and the

458
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: whole look. I mean, the last generation looked like it

459
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: was built by a twelve year old kid with lego.

460
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I never really got it. Having said that, I was

461
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: never off the Japanese street car, saying I was always

462
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: a big fan of Subaru's. I had a two sixties

463
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: Z you know, I love it. But I could never

464
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: understand the.

465
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned that you had a whole bunch of sdis

466
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 3: when you were younger. Right, Oh, no, that was that

467
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 3: was not a car thing though, that was a that

468
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: was a different thing. Yep, thanks, I'll be here all week. No,

469
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: but I know what you mean.

470
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Honda had a very select type of audience for their cars.

471
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm surprised that that this car doesn't come

472
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: with like a flat cap and of vape. But I

473
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: drove it, and I love it. I fucking love it

474
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: and everything. The actual driving experience of this car made

475
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: me overlook everything I didn't like. That's how great it was,

476
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: everything from the red seats and the red carpets and

477
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: the wing at the back. In fact, this whole car,

478
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: I think it's toned down. Well, I think it looks

479
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: really good and I think it's the best looking one

480
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: that they've put out in years. But the yeah, let's talk.

481
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: About the stats, because well, just on the design before

482
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: we run into the stats. So I totally agree.

483
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: I thought the last one was a bit over the

484
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: top and it would exclude a lot of people who

485
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: didn't want something ricey and over the top. Whereas this

486
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: new one looks aggressive because it sits wide, it's got

487
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: a great stance, but it's not over the top. And

488
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: even if you wanted to show off a little bit,

489
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: people know what it is. But if you didn't want

490
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: anyone to really care that much, it also fits that

491
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: bill too, like it is it is quite impressive from

492
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: that regard.

493
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: Before the hype started flowing in, the reviews started coming

494
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: in from overseas and stuff. I thought. On paper, I

495
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: mean you look at say the zero to one hundred

496
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: time on this claimed I think is for five point

497
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: four seconds, two hundred and thirty five killer. What's four

498
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty meters of talk? Right, So you compare

499
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: that to the Golfer, which is similar figures zero to

500
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and four point eight. So even the bloody

501
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: I thirty and sedan, I mean that that had a

502
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: zero to one hundred times of like five point one.

503
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: It had a better time. But so on paper, I

504
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: was like, well, this is such a good case of numbers.

505
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: Don't sell cars.

506
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's the thing. Like the

507
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: Golfer on paper is technically a better vehicle. It's got

508
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: all will drive, it's.

509
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: Quicker in a straight line, all that sort of stuff,

510
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: but it is just so boring in comparison to a

511
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: type the type as manual only it is incredibly quick

512
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: point to point, It handles unbelievably well. You know, there

513
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: is very little to not like about it, and I

514
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: think that they've achieved a great thing with this car,

515
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: and it will be a collectors item down the track.

516
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: And actually if you even if you compare it to

517
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: the GR Corolla, like the GR Corolla, even being all

518
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: wheel drives, still isn't as tuned or as focused as

519
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: this is. This just feels on another level altogether, and

520
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: I think it has become the king of the hot hatches,

521
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: like it is quite sort of a huge achievement. And

522
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: actually just published that they got a record lap time

523
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: atnerburg Ring. There is an attatched to this, so they

524
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: basically dethroned the Reno McGahan trophy are that had the

525
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: previous record, and a look a bit complicated because they

526
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: changed the rules for how long the lap needs to

527
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: be for the record and this was under the new

528
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: rules and it looks a little bit strange there in

529
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: terms of the numbers, but it is a faster time.

530
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: But the controversy controversy, that's an Italian terming some of this.

531
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I add some source on that.

532
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 3: So the controversy is that apparently there is a claim

533
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: that the time has been cheated.

534
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: And the background to this is there's a bloke called.

535
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: Mesha Charudin who's basically a YouTuber who works during the

536
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 3: on season at the nurburg Ring. He's driven a lot

537
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: of cars around the Nourburgering. I've met him before, really

538
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: nice guy and knows his stuff. He's basically come out

539
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: and said that the car.

540
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: That was used for the official lap time wasn't a

541
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: stock car. And what he's done is he's.

542
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: Referenced two bits of footage, one from another publication's lap

543
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: time of that car and then one from an autobarn test.

544
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: What he's done is referenced two spots in fifth gear

545
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 3: when the car changing gears, and you can tell that

546
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: with the test car that was used at the Nurburgring,

547
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: it produces more boost and is traveling faster at the

548
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: same rpm that the other two cars are, which leads

549
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: him to believe that that car has either been tuned

550
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: or had some different type of fuel used that's given

551
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 3: at that extra performance. So Honda hasn't responded to this

552
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: yet at the time that we're recording this, but I'll

553
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: be interested to see what they say, because according to Honda,

554
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: the car was stock outside of optional tires that you

555
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: can get as part of a package with the car.

556
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: So, yeah, what do you reckon about this. Do you

557
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: think it was a controversy?

558
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, you can't claim something something. There's

559
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of prestige around something like this, around a

560
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: claim like this, and I don't think you can, certainly

561
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: if it's untrue. But there's got to be some sort

562
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: of regulations, like if they've tuned the car differently, or

563
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's a loophole with the fuel perhaps.

564
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: I just would find it weird that they've cheated this

565
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: system and then publicized it.

566
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

567
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: Well that's my thing as well, like why would you

568
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: go hard on publicizing.

569
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: It if you did cheat? So it just it makes

570
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: me wonder what's going on.

571
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: And I'm really keen to see what the outcome of

572
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: this is because I haven't paid enough attention to the

573
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: nuances here, but there certainly is a couple of sort

574
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: of question marks over this stuff.

575
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: And I don't know why they would need to cheat.

576
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: It is an incredibly accomplished car. You're really not achieving

577
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: anything by cheating.

578
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll be keen to see how it pans

579
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: out for them and what the response is.

580
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: And we will follow this up once we do. Hear

581
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: back from Honda and see what the outcome of it

582
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: all is just.

583
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Under seventy three grand. I know, there's starting money, isn't it. Yeah,

584
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It is a lot. And yeah, that

585
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: was kind of my thought. I was because I thought

586
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: to myself, seventy three grand. But they're advertising. I mean,

587
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: that's a two year wait if you get it for that,

588
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: or I could get it now for there's actually one,

589
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: a reasonable one that's on car sales at the moment

590
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: for about seventy six. Yeah, I mean if if you're

591
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: not prepared to wait, you can get one for just

592
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: a few grand more, which I thought was pretty good.

593
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: A lot of dealers which pissed me right off of

594
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: selling them from a round about seventy nine to early eighties.

595
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: I think, look stock as it is, it's an excellent car.

596
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: It'd been a while since i'd driven a stick shift,

597
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: and given this is one of the greatest I've ever driven,

598
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: I'd say it's especially in the last couple of years.

599
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's God, it's good, Like the throws are good,

600
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: the way it handles, it's so intuitive. It's just it

601
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: fucking made me feel so great. I have to say,

602
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: like you're going around a corner and the limited slip

603
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: diff just is so in tune with this whole car.

604
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: It's such an absolute joy. And whether it's numbers wise,

605
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: whether it's fast or not, I don't care anymore like

606
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: you don't care. It's just it's so well put together.

607
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: And I would buy this. I would want one hundred

608
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: percent buy this from someone. And this is someone who

609
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: never understood the car, never really got the red seats,

610
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: like the fuck on the outside looking and you look

611
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: at those red seeds because the back ones are black.

612
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: It looks like some boy racer kids just gone down

613
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: to the border and bought a couple of cheap Ricardos

614
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: on sale. But yeah, it's I mean that Alcantara steering wheel,

615
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: the way the seeds hug you in the driving position.

616
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Everything is just excellent in this car. Excellent and made

617
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: me overlook everything I didn't like I thought. I mean, look,

618
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I could nitpick, you could look at the tech on

619
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: it and go.

620
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: I think it needs more sound.

621
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the exhaust sound could do with an improvement.

622
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: Inside the cabinet's okay, but outside it just sounds a

623
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: bit muted.

624
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: And I found the same with the gr Corolla.

625
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: It just needed a bit more, but this is all

626
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: stuff that you can go and change, like you can

627
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: go get an exhaust fairly quickly.

628
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: What was your take on the tech in this, because look,

629
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I think the race tech in it aside good, but

630
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are doing that now.

631
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that special anymore. I mean the

632
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: logging system I think is really cool. There's a few

633
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: cars out there that are doing that well these days.

634
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: But I thought the tech in it was a little bit.

635
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: It was good, but it wasn't seventy three thousand dollars good.

636
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a better camera system on it.

637
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not. It's got no three to sixty camera.

638
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: It's not a quantum leap over a standard civic in

639
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: terms of the stuff that you're getting with it. But yeah, look,

640
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: I think it does what it says on the box

641
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: really well. I'd be more disappointed if it had all

642
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: the tech and just wasn't really all that fun to drive.

643
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: I think it sort of meets that brief. It is

644
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: pretty firm, so obviously you know you're.

645
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: Expecting that, but when you go to that plus R mode,

646
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: it's like they just take the suspension out and the

647
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: wheels are directly connected to the body. It is so firm,

648
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: it's just the next level. Yeah, if you're going to

649
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: be on a track with it, it really is quite

650
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: a composed beast.

651
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a huge fan of it. And yeah,

652
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: had off to anyone that bought one and all has

653
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: an allocation for one and isn't getting ripped off by

654
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: a dealer.

655
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: You know, you do notice a difference between Like far

656
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: too often you look at a drive mode and from

657
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: sport to NAL drive plus R mode, you know whatever,

658
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: that that little jump is sometimes minimal and could be disappointing.

659
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: This is a proper jump in all modes from comfort

660
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Speaker 1: to sport to plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do notice the difference, and that's what I

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Speaker 3: love because it is very defined. There's no sort of

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Speaker 3: faffing about with it. So yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think.

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Speaker 3: It's really cool and yeah, excited to see what the

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Speaker 3: outcome is of this, this Neurburgreen lap record thing. Just

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Speaker 3: getting to the bottom of that. I think we'll be

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Speaker 3: good too. A bit of controversy, never heard anyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred of released what I think is a

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Speaker 1: new classic. I mean it's always been there, but it's

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Speaker 1: such a good jump. Yeah, we should rap, We should rap?

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Speaker 1: How do we wrap? Oh? Hey, do you want to

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Speaker 1: hear some great news? Yes, before we go into some

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Speaker 1: before we go into some lovely comments. We are I

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Speaker 1: think we've got some merch coming.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, actually, let's let's talk about that. We

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Speaker 3: had a guy, now I just want to make sure

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Speaker 3: I get their name right. Yeah, we had a guy

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Speaker 3: called Gus get in touch with us who is basically

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Speaker 3: a merch specialist.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Picasso.

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Speaker 3: And we won mentioned his company just because I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he wants us to mention it or not

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Speaker 3: just yet.

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Speaker 1: But because I think he's actually using company printers.

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Speaker 3: Well he owns the company, so I think it's okay.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, we will check first. But yeah, we could

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Speaker 3: have some merch coming, which is exciting. Yeah, I'm loving that.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know how like in Japan you can go

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Speaker 1: to a vending machine and you can get used under pads.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can get just Donna to wear a couple

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Speaker 1: of pairs came up brief.

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Speaker 2: A couple of bed sheets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just so come in game baverly hego Darlan exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we will have more on that soon.

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Speaker 1: When I'm feeling tip top and one hundred percent, I'll

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Speaker 1: open the old laptop and get it sorted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, excellent.

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Speaker 3: Well, before we do wrap, let's go through some feedback

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Speaker 3: since our last episode and two polar opposites. So I'll

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Speaker 3: start off with the slightly negative Nancy one.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: It's titled really question mark question mark question Mark and

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Speaker 3: it's come from Gone a Bit too Far question Mark

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Speaker 3: question Mark question Mark. They've got a sticky key there

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Speaker 3: they need to look at. They say, Paul, you have

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Speaker 3: a brand to protect and you're not doing yourself any favors.

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Speaker 3: The attempted humor is quite pathetic. Couldn't agree more with

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Speaker 3: third rate humor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just on that. I don't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: On the opposite end of the scale was.

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Speaker 3: A comment that was titled best car podcast ever Yeah

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Speaker 3: they know, yeah boy from Reneagle and Remaghal maybe and

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Speaker 3: the contents of that with a five star rating was

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Speaker 3: fun car show with real car enthusiast talk, not just

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Speaker 3: an cap ratings and fuel mileage like many other shows.

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Speaker 2: And we will not we will not mention.

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Speaker 3: The other shows that drive cars and come up with

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Speaker 3: that stuff, so we will not mention that or people

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Speaker 3: that sue people.

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Speaker 1: Very commercialized platform.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so thank you for those two bits of feedback.

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Speaker 3: Gone a bit too far and remagale.

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Speaker 1: This is a quick one from George by the way

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Speaker 1: in the DMS lads, thank you so much for the

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Speaker 1: great podcast. I've recently drove Brisbane to Sydney and back

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Speaker 1: and had you guys on the whole way out, he binged.

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Speaker 2: He would have swung my donors. I would have thought, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's in those neck of the woods perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. He wouldn't want to do any palichet

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Speaker 1: style burnouts. She'll get you perfect blend facts, humor and banta.

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Speaker 2: Keep it up.

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Speaker 1: A great job, Thanks.

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Speaker 3: George, Jim mate, thank you, and if you're one of

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Speaker 3: these people that wants to leave us a review, please

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00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: do so on the platform that you listen to. It

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Speaker 3: only takes a couple of minutes, but it is immensely

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Speaker 3: helpful for us. And also subscribe to the show because

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Speaker 3: that also helps us as well shuffle along in the ratings.

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Speaker 3: So we do appreciate you guys listening. We are working

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Speaker 3: on merch get in touch with us on our socials

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Speaker 3: as well. We're at the Drivers Show dot com. That

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Speaker 3: are you on Instagram or contact at the Drivers Show

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Speaker 3: dot com dot au on the email two.

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Speaker 1: S is in there. Somebody said as a meme, I

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Speaker 1: wish I could show you this, but it's it harps

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Speaker 1: back to the to the days of your Toyota Supra

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Speaker 1: who is thank you for coming in.

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Speaker 2: We will not be airing that. I do know that clip,

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Speaker 2: but it is quite funny.

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Speaker 1: Hey, one question about your super right. I was sitting

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Speaker 1: in one on the weekend. You turn around in that thing,

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Speaker 1: you literally have a blind spot like there is there's

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Speaker 1: just a wall of car next to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the best thing in the world to

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Speaker 3: see out of. Is that a pain in the ass, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: Apart from driving it getting out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, getting out of it, as as I progress in

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Speaker 3: age was tricky. So I'm glad I don't do that anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's now the opposite.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you got the high up sort of raptor

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Speaker 1: in the high up Model hy you're going to climb

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Speaker 1: into the raptor, swing the caboosin and the model Why

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Speaker 1: now has the update where it actually applicates your hemorrhoid

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Speaker 1: cream and it has the voice of Elil Musk going.

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Speaker 1: Is that Okay?

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Speaker 3: He's gone off the reservation, hasn't he? That rocket exploding

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Speaker 3: wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: He's learning experience, as he likes to call it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, just a very very expensive one.

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Speaker 1: What that rocket was for? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You kind of look at it and go, why why

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Speaker 1: did you do that? Why?

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Speaker 2: I think they're actually testing the launch pad from memory

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Speaker 2: to make sure it would stay alive because it was

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Speaker 2: so powerful. I think I actually genuinely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, anyone questioning Paul's background or a reputation of

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Speaker 1: being an engineer, I'm pretty sure he just tarnished his

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Speaker 1: own I had nothing to do with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you do follow SpaceX and a fan of

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Speaker 3: rockets and stuff, send us a d M or an

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Speaker 3: email and let us know how wrong I am.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it was something like launch pad related

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Speaker 2: rocket like rockets and stuff, quote Paul engineer.

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Speaker 3: So, yes, we're hoping to be in the studio again

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Speaker 3: together actual show.

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Speaker 2: That is all TV to the sea. Yeah, but in the.

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Speaker 1: We'll get that be positive. Well there and I won't

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Speaker 1: be going to your bloody officers with your friggin' ea.

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Speaker 2: I am going to get that sorted. Next time.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have sign writing and stuff on the

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Speaker 3: walls here, which I haven't asked permission for, but I

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Speaker 3: don't really care, so that should be great.

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Speaker 1: You own the freaking joint. You don't need to ask

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Speaker 1: for any permission. You don't need to ask for anything.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? You could put that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've already one of your walls has a big mural

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Speaker 1: of you wearing nothing but a pair of wife fronts.

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Speaker 1: Funny heart up, I can see.

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Speaker 2: Thank you everyone for tuning in.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully this wasn't absolutely terrible to listen to see you seen,

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Speaker 3: little Pavli