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Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear More Kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen

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Speaker 1: live on the Free Hard. So you've been pretty clear

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Speaker 1: with your with your dislike, probably hate, it's not too

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Speaker 1: strong of a word, your.

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Speaker 2: Hate of Taylor Swift's new album.

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Speaker 1: It's not hate, well, it's it's what's strong dislike, very

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Speaker 1: very strong dislike. And I don't think you can be

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Speaker 1: doing that if you haven't actually listened to the album.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this love for show Girl.

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Speaker 3: Bouquet.

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Speaker 4: You do, thank you for the lovely thank you for

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Speaker 4: the lovely bouquet. You're sweeter than a peach. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if Leonard Cohen was alive, he'd be like, I'm into it.

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Speaker 4: I had written that, and.

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Speaker 1: I think you're You're well within your right to make

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Speaker 1: these kind of comments, but only if you listen to

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Speaker 1: the whole album, because quite frankly will I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: on air at the moment yesterday we had people calling

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Speaker 1: up trying to convince you that Taylor's wedding is going

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Speaker 1: to be and I mean make.

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Speaker 2: You are very very brutal.

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Speaker 3: You're one of the probably few that are not like.

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Speaker 5: She just didn't get there, did she. Let's go to

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Speaker 5: Amy make Taylor stwist wedding interesting for me?

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Speaker 3: Amy, what do you mean it's Taylor Swift? It's a

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Speaker 3: queen of come.

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Speaker 1: And that's gone and just what do you mean it's

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift? Okay, so we've actually got Amy back on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 4: Amy, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Guys?

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Sorry I was a bit savage on the fader there.

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Speaker 5: That was just you know, part of the bit, but.

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Speaker 6: I do I'll give you this time.

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Speaker 4: You didn't I didn't get your bit out. I'm sorry

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Speaker 4: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, moving on, I think we're going to break bread

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Speaker 2: right now. Amy.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Will needs to listen to the album,

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Speaker 1: you know, just one listen, sit through the entire thing

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Speaker 1: to then make appropriate comments.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think what you need to do is you're

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Speaker 6: saying about how it doesn't speak to our everyday lives

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Speaker 6: and things that we can't relate to. But I think

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Speaker 6: that you need to look past the actual melody of

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Speaker 6: the song. You need to look past the actual of

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Speaker 6: it and read the actual lyrics as if it's the

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Speaker 6: story from beginning to end. So Taylor's in this new

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Speaker 6: album is literally writing a story. So she's going through

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Speaker 6: through fate of a felure, she's talking about your heart

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Speaker 6: being saved from the same fate of a feeliure, and

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Speaker 6: in oprah light she's talking about you can't rely on

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Speaker 6: other people's happiness. You have to make your own.

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Speaker 1: And for a great message, you can do that you can't.

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Speaker 2: Again. I think they were great points, and I as

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Speaker 2: show you once just off what Amy was saying that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea.

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Speaker 4: That was awesome. No, sorry, let's go back to Amy

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Speaker 4: very quickly. Sorry, Ames are there?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? Ames? Sorry? Sorry?

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Speaker 4: Amy? I heard you. I heard you.

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Speaker 1: I think, Amy, do you think you should whilst looking

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Speaker 1: at the lyrics, I think if you read.

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Speaker 5: I'll read the lyrics, I'll read the list the story

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Speaker 5: will Amy. I do think it's interesting though. The first

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Speaker 5: thing you said was don't listen to the melody like

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Speaker 5: it's a record.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. You listen to them, it's it's music.

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Speaker 6: I think that you're focusing purely on the rhythm of

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Speaker 6: it though you're saying that it might all be catchy

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Speaker 6: to you, but it's catchy to a lot of other people.

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Speaker 6: If you're looking at it more from a story point

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Speaker 6: of view, you might find that.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So on a whole as a piece of art.

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Speaker 5: You think that the music transcends the boiled chicken and rice,

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Speaker 5: that it sounds like when you first hear one.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, all right, you go, okay to

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Speaker 4: a movie?

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Speaker 2: Will how good's that's got? Lauren?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 2: Lauren like that?

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Speaker 4: There is such a cop out. It's like her literally going, look,

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Speaker 4: I know it's ship, but if you listen to the

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Speaker 4: whole thing in Gone Dext do you know what I mean? Lauren?

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with what amy're saying?

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Speaker 1: Is maybe the I'm not very good with music, but

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Speaker 1: is the melody is a bit off in this new album.

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Speaker 2: You've listened to it a number of times.

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Speaker 3: I have listened to it a number of times. You've

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Speaker 3: just got to listen to it in the car, full volume,

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Speaker 3: ideally at a red light while dancing. That's my biggest

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Speaker 3: piece of it light for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great advice. That's great advice.

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Speaker 4: You're having a bit of fun. You're having a bit

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Speaker 4: of fun.

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Speaker 3: Absolute you only only want to pick is that you've

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Speaker 3: essentially said that once he becomes successful, you're not allowed

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Speaker 3: to be good at anything anymore.

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Speaker 5: That's very, very hard. What I would say, Lauren is

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Speaker 5: very very very hard to do. It's it's the it's

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Speaker 5: in music. They say it's the classic second album curse.

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Speaker 5: It's really hard for artists once they find success to

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Speaker 5: make something of substance after they've found the success, because

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Speaker 5: naturally the fame goes to their head and they lose

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Speaker 5: touch with who and what they are and what they're

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Speaker 5: actually writing about, and they end up just trying to

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Speaker 5: write something they think the public will like. Now, I

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Speaker 5: think Taylor, you know, let's face it, she's made some

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Speaker 5: good records in there.

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Speaker 4: Story Read was a great record, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, reputation, and we can go through them.

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Speaker 4: Could we can go through all of them? We really could.

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Speaker 4: We just could, and you know, maybe we will once

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Speaker 4: the show finishes. Lauren. But but but.

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Speaker 3: I think it's not that serious.

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Speaker 4: The point it's not. It's not a bop though. I

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Speaker 4: feel like I beat you on both sides there.

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Speaker 5: So first of all, she's detached, but then if you

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Speaker 5: listen to it, it's not a pop.

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Speaker 4: We can all agree it's not a pop. If anything, all.

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Speaker 5: I will give it is what Amy said before, which

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Speaker 5: is that, like you know, each song is ship, but

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Speaker 5: if you listen to it on the whole maybe there's

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Speaker 5: a story which I'm happy to do.

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Speaker 3: Item to listen to open light on repeat three times.

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Speaker 3: I promise you it'll get in your ears and you'll

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Speaker 3: love it and you will be calling you back saying

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Speaker 3: it's a bob Lauren.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything he has to wear or anything during

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Speaker 1: the listening?

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Speaker 3: Look? I think if you've got a you've got a

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Speaker 3: sequin on that's going to help.

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Speaker 2: Something that's doing a chemmy, you can sort that. And

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Speaker 2: do you know it's some comfortable shoes shoes sequence? Do

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Speaker 2: you think?

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Speaker 4: I do love you, Lauran, thanks for I love your passion, Lauren.

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Speaker 5: I mean that if anything that is what I you know,

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Speaker 5: is infectious about this is the fact that people do. Look,

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Speaker 5: it's great to see people loving caring so much about music.

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Speaker 4: Is swift, is piling in here.

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Speaker 5: To have there to have their say about their queen

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Speaker 5: and praise.

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Speaker 3: Give it a go before you before you poopa. You

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Speaker 3: got to give it an actual proper go.

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Speaker 4: Well did you have a listening party, Lauren? How did

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Speaker 4: you do it?

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Speaker 3: Look? I was in New Zealand and I made my

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Speaker 3: friends that went over there for the weekend, made my

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Speaker 3: friends go to the movie launch with me, so that

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Speaker 3: I didn't mess out because it was only across a

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Speaker 3: couple of days. So that's how dedicated I am. As

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Speaker 3: even traveling internationally, I made room to go to the

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Speaker 3: movie Help You.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about the fact that she might

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Speaker 4: have been slightly.

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Speaker 5: Stained by the fact that she's just a money making machine?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Oh, look to be fair, I went to the ear

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Speaker 3: a Staur and it wasn't actually for me. I loved

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Speaker 3: her music. She can do no wrong, but I think

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Speaker 3: of outgrown her as a performer. I don't lean into

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Speaker 3: you know, when she stands here for three minutes and

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Speaker 3: or at the fact that everyone's cleffing. I'm like, you

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Speaker 3: do it every night, So I guess, yeah.

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Speaker 4: How much of a mega maniac do you have to

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Speaker 4: be to stand in there and get that much?

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Speaker 3: Still love the music, and that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: By Lauren, I love it. You're a purist. I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the honesty.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you join us same time tomorrow Lauren

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Speaker 1: on the show, Will's gonna listen to the album I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say tomorrow tomorrow in a dark room and then

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Speaker 1: you join us tomorrow Lauren, and we can get Will's thoughts.

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Speaker 5: I don't make this any more statistic than it will

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Speaker 5: need to be. I will struggle to come back on air.

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Speaker 5: I'm warning you.

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Speaker 2: I just want you to take block out your other

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Speaker 2: senses and enjoy what I'll.

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Speaker 5: Lauren, I'll give it a crack tomorrow. Full review Taylor

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Speaker 5: Swift album Can I Go?

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Speaker 4: Track by track? Bar bye bar? Can I pay samples

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Speaker 4: back to you? What? Like in my review?

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Speaker 2: They're not doing the whole show with your review. I

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Speaker 2: was just expecting a sentence or something tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: It might just be the poo emoji.

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Speaker 2: Ah