1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Today's show is an Ask Me Anything episode where I 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: answer your awesome listener questions. So today I will be 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: sharing exactly how I use AI to boost my productivity 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: every single day, from supercharging research to streamlining my personal 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: life as well. I'm also going to be diving into 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: how I structure my week to stay focused and avoid 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: context switching. And I also talk about my current favorite 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: tech and software tools, and I'll also be giving an 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: update on my upcoming book, The Energy Game. Well, let's 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: get into it. 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to How I Work, a show about habits, rituals, 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: and strategies for optimizing your date. I'm your host, doctor 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Amantha Imber. 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: The first question comes from James and he asks how 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: are you using AI to improve your own productivity? And 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: that is a great question, James, because I use AI 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: every single day, multiple times a day, and have been 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: for the last few years. So one of the big 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: areas that it saves me so much time is in research, 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: and there are a few ways I use it. So firstly, 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: when I am doing research for say a new product 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: at Inventium. So a little while ago we were creating 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: a program around psychological safety and what my process is 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: for research is. Typically when it's academic research, I go 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: to consensus dot app. It is one of my favorite 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: AI tools out there, and it is basically eaten up 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: all the academic research that has been published, so millions 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: and millions of academic papers, and you can then ask 29 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: questions of the database and it will use AI to 30 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: give you a summary. It will give you a what 31 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: it's called consensus is if you ask it a yes 32 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: or no question, it will give you a consensus of 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: what the research says. Is it mostly yes, is it 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: mostly no? Is it mixed? And I find that very 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: very useful for sourcing articles that I never would have 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: come across and that certainly I have found it and 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: not picked up by doing deep research using tools like 38 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: perplexity and chat GPT, which I do also use, but yeah, 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I love consensus so much. I use deep research in chat, GPT, 40 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Gemini and perplexity quite often when I'm researching guests for 41 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: this very podcast. So most of the guests that I 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: have on are people that I am personally curious about 43 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: that I might have read their book, or used their 44 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: products or services, or I just love their thinking. So 45 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: even though I receive a lot of pictures from people 46 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to come on the show, probably about ten pitches per day. 47 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I would estimate generally the guests that I'm having on 48 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: and that you're listening to are ones that I have 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: hand selected, so I already know quite a bit about them, 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: but I'm supplementing that with dep research. Then I also 51 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: use these tools in my personal life. As an example, 52 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: about a month ago, I came down with a cold 53 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: and that really sucked because I'd been cold free, flu free, etc. 54 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: For the whole year, and I thought, oh my god, 55 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to have the first year of my life 56 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: where I do not get sick. And I was feeling 57 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: really smug about that, and then I got sick. So 58 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: what I did is I hopped on consensus and I 59 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: asked it what supplements reduced the severity and duration of 60 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: a cold? And it scanned through probably thousands millions of 61 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: different papers, and it presented me at a very neat table, 62 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: these are the supplements where there is mild and up 63 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: to moderate and up to strong evidence that they will 64 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: help reduce the severity and duration of the cold. And 65 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: then I asked for what doseiage did the studies say 66 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: that I need to take? And then I hopped onto Perplexity, 67 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: and I asked Perplexity to source me what are the 68 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: best reputable brands in these supplements that are available where 69 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: I live in Melbourne. And I had a little bit 70 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: of a shopping list that I was then able to 71 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: go out down my local shopping strip and get all 72 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the supplements and I was over the cold in five days, 73 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: which is better than the average which is seven days. Now, 74 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: another thing that I do probably the last thing I'll 75 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: talk about before I move on to the next question, 76 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: because very seriously, there's a lot that I could talk 77 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: about here. But I have very task specific GPTs, which 78 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: which is probably something that I do differently to the 79 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: average person or maybe someone that is more sort of well, 80 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: I guess less into the world of AI. They might 81 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: be using it a lot, but I think that this 82 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: is something that I find separates more experienced users with 83 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: more with people that have mostly been you know, dabbling 84 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: and perhaps getting substandard results. The kind of people that 85 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: come to our programs that invent him. So if that 86 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: is you, I will link to our latest round of 87 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: AI programs in the show notes. You might want to 88 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: come join us. But I have very task specific GPTs 89 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: so GPT so I use chat GPT and I build GPTs. 90 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: But if you're you know, in the Google ecosystem, these 91 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: are called gems. If you're in the Microsoft Co Pilots ecosystem, 92 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: therese are called agents, and Inclaude they're called a pro. 93 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: So I create very tak specific GPTs. So, for example, 94 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: I have a GPT that I have created that is 95 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: specifically for podcast episode title generation. That is how specific 96 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I get. I also have I was experimenting with Instagram 97 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: reels for a while and if you want to see those, 98 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: you can follow me on Instagram at Amantha. I is 99 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: how you find me And I don't know that was 100 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: an interesting experiment, but for that I did a whole 101 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: lot of research into what's best practice for reels on 102 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Instagram and you know, creating compelling cooks and all those 103 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: sorts of things. And I then created a specific script 104 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: creator for Instagram reels where I would talk through some 105 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: content and I would work with it to create a 106 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: short script. I also have for my newsletters, so you 107 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: might be a subscriber to one percent Better, where I 108 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: share tips weekly on how to live a better life 109 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: and work life and Again, there's a link to sign 110 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: up to that in the show notes. But I've got 111 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: a very specific GPT that I built to help me 112 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: edit content. So my workflow for that is that typically 113 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I will, you know, I'll come up with ideas for 114 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: the newsletter all the time. I've got a page in 115 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: notion where I capture those ideas, and then I will 116 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: generally talk out the idea or the story, and then 117 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: I'll work with that GPT to mold that into you know, 118 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: around five to seven hundred words that will work and 119 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, be in my specific tone of writing for 120 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: the newsletter. So there are a few examples of how 121 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I use AI. Okay, the next question is from Caroline. Caroline, Caroline, 122 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: my biggest performance challenge right now is keeping track of 123 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: all my work. My work work. What this currently looks 124 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: like is being very reactive and not getting to the 125 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: things I want to do or only getting to them 126 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: in a rash, less than idea way, in a very 127 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: firm deadline. So how do we keep track of all 128 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: the work and stop being so reactive? Okay? Why my 129 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: system is this? So I have a weekly ritual and 130 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: a daily ritual around thinking about what are my tasks 131 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: and what are my priorities. So most I don't know 132 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: this every week, but most weeks, and I'm much more 133 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: likely to do this when I'm feeling overwhelmed is I 134 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: will think about what are the big projects that I've 135 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: got on right now, and what are the most important 136 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: things that I need to finish this week. I then 137 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: typically time box them across the week, so basically book 138 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: a meeting with myself to do the task, and that 139 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: then makes sure that the task gets done. Inevitably, though 140 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: unpredictable things come up, and if I had something time 141 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: box like a meeting with myself diary, and something urgent 142 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: came up that I needed to deal with, then I 143 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: would simply move that meeting to the following day, and theoretically, 144 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: by the end of the week, I have then completed 145 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: all those tasks because they were meetings. And what is 146 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: quite handy about having a company inventium that is a 147 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: four day week company, is that I don't work Fridays. 148 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: I try to take the gift of the fifth as 149 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: we call it, an inventium on Fridays. But if I 150 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: have tasks that have just you know, they've just kept 151 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: getting pushed and pushed. Friday mornings are a really great 152 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: time to just do an hour or two of deep work, 153 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: and then I would typically take the rest of the 154 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: day off my inventium work. I also a little hack 155 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: that I found that's very useful is typically I separate 156 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: the tasks that I have to do into deep work tasks, 157 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: tasks that require focusing and concentration and shallow work tasks 158 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that might be call such and such about you know 159 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: something small shallow work. And what I do is I 160 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: keep my deep work tasks in notion, which is kind 161 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: of I guess, like my my storage system for all 162 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: my notes and anything I'm working on. It's got all 163 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: the projects that I'm currently working on, and just like 164 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: it's like my digital filing system, I guess for things 165 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: that you know are not like a word document or 166 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: a PowerPoint document. But I use Apple Reminders for my 167 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: shallow work. And why I've developed that workflow and this 168 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: wasn't actually a deliberate thing, It's kind of emerged this 169 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: way because I used to keep Man, I've experimented with 170 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: so many to do lists. But anyway, why I find 171 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: that useful is that I am an iPhone user and 172 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: I will often think of tasks that I have to 173 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: do when I'm on the go, and I will ask 174 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Siri to oh, no, I've just at devated Siri anyway. 175 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: I will ask Siri to capture that as a reminder, 176 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: and I will give it a time and a date 177 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: as to when I need to be reminded of that. 178 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: And it's really it's never deep work tasks that come 179 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: to mind when you're on the go. It's always shallow 180 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: work tasks. And so my reminder's list in Siri is 181 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: brilliant because I can capture things. I can get things 182 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: out of my head, which is great so that I 183 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: don't lose tasks or forget them. And I think get 184 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: reminded at a time that works for me. So that 185 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: is my system from Philliper. My biggest performance challenge is 186 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: context switching. I currently have three roles within my one 187 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: corporate job. My day is a juggle around the multiple 188 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: hours of meetings and deadlines for each role, and I'm 189 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: struggling to give quality time to each It's tapping my 190 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: energy and motivation and I find myself wasting time jumping 191 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: from one thing to the next. How can I structure 192 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: my day to give quality focus to each role and 193 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: minimize context switching. Great question, Philipart, Well, my advice, and 194 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the clients that we work 195 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: with at Inventium, you've just described many of them, and 196 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: it's really easy, I think when you've got complete autonomy 197 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: over your work life, as I feel like I've got 198 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of autonomy as a business owner, to have 199 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: this idealistic view of where you know, we can all 200 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: just have three hours of deep work every morning, but 201 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I know that it doesn't work like that in the 202 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: real world. So my advice is to just start small. 203 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Try to protect just one hour per day and have 204 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: that be deep work, important work, things where you're not 205 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: just being reactive. And what I recommend doing is the 206 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: night before or the you know, the late afternoon before, 207 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: whenever you clock off, is to ask yourself, what is 208 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: the most important thing that I can get done tomorrow 209 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: that will get me closer to my goals and whatever. 210 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: The answer to that is time, Bob in your diary. 211 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: Eighty percent of people have their best thinking power, best 212 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: thinking quality in the morning, So maybe do it in 213 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: the morning. Book a meeting with yourself to do the thing, 214 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: and also try not to be unrealistic in what you 215 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: aim to achieve. One of my little hacks for time 216 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: boxing is that I always overestimate how long something will 217 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: take to achieve, so that almost always I'll get it done, 218 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: you know, quicker than I've timeboxed in my diary, and 219 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: that makes me feel like I am winning. So that 220 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: also in terms of context switching, I mean, digital distractions 221 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: are really big problem. So I feel like it's very 222 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: cliche to say, but try website and app blocking software. 223 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Freedom Dot two I think is still the most popular 224 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: one out there. I love Forest on the mobile. Forest 225 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: is a great mobile app where you set the timer 226 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: for how long you want to beocused for, ie, not 227 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: check your phone, and it grows a digital tree for say, 228 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, sixty minutes or however long you set. But 229 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: if you check your phone during that time, the tree dies. 230 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: And I know it is just a digital tree, but 231 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: it feels quite devastating to kill any kind of a tree. 232 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: I also experimented for a little while with a mobile 233 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: app called one sec. So one is in the number 234 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: sec as in second, And what it does is it 235 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of it runs in conjunction, like it links to 236 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: different apps that you are finding problematic in terms of 237 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: ones that are hijacking your attention. So let's take Instagram 238 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: as an example. You can set an automation in your 239 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: phone to when you go to open up Instagram. What 240 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: happens is one sec opens instead and it says, Okay, 241 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: just take a deep breath and are you really sure 242 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: that you need to check Instagram? And it basically just 243 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: gets you being more mindful about those automatic behaviors. But 244 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many of us do with the 245 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: digital distractions in our life. We will be back soon 246 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: and after the break I will be talking about some 247 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: of my current favorite tech and software tools that I 248 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: am absolutely obsessed with right now. Okay, the next question 249 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: is from Nick and it's around psychological safety. And if 250 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: you listened to my interview with Elan Lee, co founder 251 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: co creator of Exploding Kittens, he talked about what was 252 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: essentially psychological safety that he'd built up in his team. 253 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm paraphrasing Nick here, where he 254 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: as a leader talked about how he role models having 255 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: his ideas rejected and being totally okay with that. Highly 256 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: recommend going and listening to that interview with el Amley. 257 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I'll link to that in the show notes. But it's 258 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: a really great example of how he has created very 259 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: high psych safety with his team because they feel comfortable 260 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: sharing ideas and having those ideas being rejected, failing, and 261 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: just quickly moving on to the next idea. So Nick asks, 262 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: as someone working in an organization that's about to implement 263 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: the new Victorians psych safety regulations, I'm interested in how 264 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: we talk about psych safety, create it, and foster it, 265 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: and how we promote resilience in the workforce so that 266 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: not everything becomes the situation of individuals feeling psychologically unsafe. 267 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: So it's a great question. It's such a big question. 268 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I could and should probably do an episode 269 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: on psych safety. One thing I would recommend is to 270 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: go back to an episode I did on how I 271 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: work recently with one of my teammates, Ali Sully and 272 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Ali I've worked with Ali for a few years now, 273 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and we UNPAW twenty twenty four, where I would say 274 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: psych safety at invent Him was very mixed. We'd gone 275 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: from having very high psych safety to having a year 276 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: where some people felt it and other people didn't. And 277 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: I have then spent twenty twenty five and certainly the 278 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: latter part of twenty twenty four working really hard to 279 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: build that up and you know, building real trust with people. 280 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: And in that interview that I did with Ali, where 281 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: she shared her experience and some of the things that 282 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: I had done as a leader to help create that 283 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: trust and build that trust, is we had a we 284 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: had a moment in It was August twenty twenty four, 285 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: and I hadn't had a lot to do with Ali. 286 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: I stepped back into the CEO role at Invent Him 287 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: this year. I was out of it for a lot 288 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: of last year, and then I'd been out of it 289 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: five years prior, so I hadn't had a great deal 290 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: to do with Ali, like as the leader. And what 291 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: happened is she is accredited in a really excellent well 292 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: being survey and we were thinking about, oh, do we 293 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: bring this in to Invent Him. And so she asked 294 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: me if I wanted to be a guinea pig do 295 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the survey and she would debrief me on the results, 296 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's about work and your personal life, and 297 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, there are like a lot of personal questions 298 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: in the survey and in the debrief I remember I 299 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: remember thinking, look, I've got a choice here. I mean 300 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: I at the time was I Allie's manager. I might 301 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: have been, I might not have been, actually, but I 302 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: was still, you know, the founder of the business. And 303 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I could trade carefully, I could you know, 304 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: hide I guess some of what I've been going through, 305 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: which was extreme burnout, or I could just be really upfront. 306 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: And I just thought, you know, stuff it. I will 307 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: just be really upfront because I'm going to get more 308 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: out of the process and as someone you know, stepping 309 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: into the role to debrief me on these results, then 310 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that's really appropriate for me 311 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: to just come as I am and be very very 312 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: honest and very open and quite vulnerable as well. And 313 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: Allie said that was a real turning point for her 314 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: in kind of really seeing me as a human and 315 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: building trust. And look in that interview that we did, 316 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: there are a whole lot of moments about how how 317 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: trust was cultivated. But I do think about that, and 318 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm really glad that I made that choice, 319 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, maybe there's something in that 320 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: for people that are wondering, you know, how how vulnerable 321 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: authentic Although I hate the word authentic, how vulnerable to 322 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: be now I think, I hope I feel like that 323 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of answers some of the question. Nick. Sorry if 324 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: that was a SELB standard answer, but anyway, I think 325 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, trust is absolutely the you know, 326 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: a precursor to psych safety. Okay, let's move on to 327 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: something else. What are your favorite tech tools right now? 328 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: This comes from anonymous. Okay, let me go through a 329 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: few that I am absolutely loving. I did mention consensus 330 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: at the start. I do love consensus. It's one of 331 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: my favorite AI tools for doing research. Okay, Next, I 332 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: absolutely love a tool called whisper flow, and that is 333 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: spelled wispr flow. And again I'll link to all these 334 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: in the show notes. So what whisper flow is is 335 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: it is technology where you set up a shortcut on 336 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: your keyboard and for me, it's the function key. And 337 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: so when I hit the function key, I can simply 338 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: talk and I can be in any software application. I 339 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: can be in word, I can be writing a comment 340 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, I can be in a powerful presentation, I 341 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: can be in my inbox and I simply press the 342 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: function key and I start to walking and then as 343 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: soon as I let it go, it basically does an 344 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: almost perfect transcription. Although it does use American spelling as 345 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: to what I have just said, it puts in appropriate punctuation. 346 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: It is incredibly accurate, and it is incredibly quick as well. 347 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: There is very minimal lag time between me speaking and 348 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: the words appearing on the screen. Now why I love 349 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: this two reasons. Firstly, we can all talk faster than 350 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: we can type, and so I find this really efficient. 351 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: And I also like it because, say, with my inbox, 352 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: I will sometimes use AIS to write the first draft 353 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: of an email, but more often than not, I find 354 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: it's quicker if I just talk it out, and so 355 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: I will typically in my inbox when I'm trying to 356 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: get through emails quickly is I will use whisper flow 357 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: all the time to respond to emails super quick. Why 358 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: I also like it is when I was in the 359 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: depths of book writing, I was at my computer a lot, 360 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: and I kept getting like really sort of tight neck 361 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: and shoulders, a lot of neck and shoulder pain and 362 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: like from all the typing and mousework I was doing. 363 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: And I find that doing less typing is doing wonders 364 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: for my neck and shoulders. So there we go, whisper Flow. 365 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: I also am a huge fan of Granola. It is 366 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: my favorite tool for capturing meetings. So it is different 367 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: to tools like Fireflies and Otter and Fathom and all 368 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: the inbuilt ones like you know, Zoom's got its own 369 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think zoom iq or something like that 370 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: for the less of a Zoom user. These days, Teams 371 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: has obviously got a way to record it in Teams 372 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: premium for Teams meetings. But Granola is really well, it 373 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: doesn't actually create a recording, a voice or audio recording, 374 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: or sorry, an audio or video recording of meetings. But 375 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: instead what it does is it creates a near perfect 376 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: transcription just going on in the background, so it's very unobtrusive. 377 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: But what's really cool is I also like to take 378 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: notes during meetings, like that is important. It helps me 379 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: understand what I'm hearing. It helps me note down the 380 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: really important things because you don't get that from a transcript. 381 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: And so what Granola then does is while I'm taking notes, 382 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: it's transcribing the whole meeting in the background, and at 383 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: the end of the meeting it then pulls that together. 384 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: So it pulls the transcription and my notes together to 385 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: create a summary, and then I can ask questions of 386 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: that summary. And I love it because it means I 387 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: don't have to focus on typing out everything. But also 388 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: there's not this obtrusive AI bot that's joined the meeting, 389 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's just very off putting when 390 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: you know when that joins meetings, Like, I'm fine with it, 391 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: but it's also it's just like weird sometimes. I think, Okay, 392 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: a couple of other things that I will call out. 393 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: I for podcast listening, I cannot rate snipped highly enough. 394 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: S n ip, apostrophe d I think with there an 395 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: apostrophe maybe not. Anyway, Snipped is awesome for listening to 396 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: podcasts that are educational like this one. And what you 397 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: can do I used to find often with podcasts is 398 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I would hear something and I would I would have 399 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: a silly little work throw where I workflow, where I 400 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: would pause the podcast, I would tell Siri to remind 401 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: me about something, or I would you know, manually search 402 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: for something, or I would create a voice note for 403 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: myself or something like that, and then I'd get back 404 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: into the podcast. Very annoying, sub optimal listening experience. But 405 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: with snipped, you can literally create snips of key parts 406 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: of the podcast that you want to capture, and then 407 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: it will write in a little AI summary. There are 408 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: more features to snipped than what I'm describing, but that's 409 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: the one that I use all the time, and I 410 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: love it. It has become like the only app that I 411 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: used to listen to podcasts in I reckon. That's that's 412 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: probably enough tools I could go on. I'll save some 413 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: more for the next Ask me anything. Okay, final question 414 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: for the day is when is your new book coming out? 415 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: And this comes from Claire. Thank you so much Claire 416 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: for asking. So my new book, which I think I 417 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: have occasionally mentioned on this podcast, is coming out in 418 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: July next year, July twenty twenty six, and it is 419 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: called The Energy Game. Interestingly, with my last two books, 420 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: The Health Habit and time Wise, the title that I 421 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: had put forward to Penguin, my publishers ended up getting changed, 422 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: so that turned into time Wise in the Health Habit, 423 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: and they were quite hard titles to land on. But interestingly, 424 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: the Energy Game was the like that was the title 425 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: that I came up with when I initially put together 426 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: the book proposal for Penguin, and it has remained that way, 427 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: which is kind of cool and has never really happened 428 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: to me before, so the book. So I submitted the 429 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: manuscript at the end of October, which was massive. It 430 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: was like such a massive, all consuming project this year 431 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: and it felt good to submit it. Then what happens 432 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: at Penguin, and I think most major publishers, is that 433 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: there's two rounds of edits. So there's a structural edit 434 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: where my main editor, the wonderful Ash, will read the 435 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: manuscript and you know, if things are not flowing or 436 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: looking out of place, or there's major rewrites, then that 437 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: then comes back to me to do a lot of 438 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: work there. Quite thankfully and surprisingly, my last two books, 439 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Health Habit and now The Energy Game have not edited 440 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: a structural edit, which I feel quite smug about. Anyway. 441 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: The second edit is more of a copy edit. So 442 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: this is the fine details of the manuscript. It's like 443 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: did I use the same word twice in a paragraph? 444 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: Like just real, real details like that. And Clive has 445 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: been my copy editor for Time Wise, the Health Habit 446 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: and now The Energy Game. Clive is just like such 447 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: a genius. I love working with him. And so in 448 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: a week I will, I think, be getting around of 449 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: edits to start working on from from Clive and Ash 450 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: to get done during December then anyway, so how it 451 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: works with the book, so it'll launch in July. Pre 452 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: Orders for books these days typically go live three months 453 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: prior to launch. So what does that mean June, May, April, 454 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: maybe April. I might be letting you know that it's 455 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: available for pre order and the cover design is about 456 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: to be briefed in which I'm very excited about. So 457 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: that is it for this Ask Me Anything now. If 458 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: you would like me to answer your question next time, 459 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: because I'm doing these Ask Me Anything episodes about every 460 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: three or four months, I will put a link because 461 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: what I really love is people sending in little voice messages. 462 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: So I will put a link for you to send 463 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: in a question that might be on your mind. You 464 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: can record yourself talking it, or if you want, if 465 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: you prefer, like everyone has preferred for today's episode, is 466 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: to simply drop me an email. My email is in 467 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: the show notes. I hope this has been valuable and 468 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: I will see you next time. If you like today's show, 469 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: make sure you hit follow on your podcast app to 470 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: be alerted when new episodes drop. 471 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: How I Work was recorded on the traditional land of 472 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: the warrangery people part of the Cooler Nation. A big 473 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: thank you to Martin Im for doing the sound mix.