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Speaker 1: toil over a century of engineering excellence meets cutting edge
Speaker 1: nanoscale technology.
Speaker 2: So I know that we're a car podcast, but I'm
Speaker 2: just getting some breaking news right now. President Trump newly
Speaker 2: elected President Trump. So he's going through his department and
Speaker 2: he's put up the head of Innovation, which is Elon Mask,
Speaker 2: the chairman of Awesome, which now goes to send us
Speaker 2: a hulk Hogan, and also the CFO of our fuck
Speaker 2: it That'll do demo that goes to the guy who
Speaker 2: designed the keya tasmin.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a thing, isn't it. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk about that in a second.
Speaker 2: How have you been? Tanned? Man?
Speaker 3: Busy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, how tang you are?
Speaker 3: I was in Fiji.
Speaker 2: Well you just bulla Okay, calm down. Burnt Reynolds.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is, but yes, Burt.
Speaker 2: Reynolds, it's a pun on Burt Reynolds. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: I know you're a bit slow. You are, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: on silence.
Speaker 2: I think you've got some cognitive decline going on.
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Speaker 3: Very exciting. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the key to Tasman.
Speaker 3: Ask me if it looks better in person?
Speaker 2: Now? Okay, you were there, right, So you're at Tasmania.
Speaker 2: You're in. Did they launch this in Hobart?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because at the well, we stayed at the
Speaker 3: Tasman Hotel.
Speaker 2: We're all good launcher stuft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's in Tasmania and it's called the care Tasmin.
Speaker 2: So you see the bloody brilliant play on words. Let's
Speaker 2: fly everyone chuck them on the spirit of Tazzy. Paul
Speaker 2: got a bit lost, so Donna pointed to a map
Speaker 2: of Tazzy. You go through the bush and turn right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jesus, you ended up in the Hobart River.
Speaker 3: It was wet, it was deep.
Speaker 2: They had to send out some cave rescuers, some beacon
Speaker 2: Field and never was seen again. Sorry, this is gone
Speaker 2: to a good start anyway. So you're in Tazzy, Can
Speaker 2: I ask you one thing, Take me through the start
Speaker 2: of this launch, like, like, I want to know what happened?
Speaker 2: Did you sit down?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay. So there was a bit of confusion because
Speaker 3: it was it was simultaneously being launched in Jedda, which
Speaker 3: is in Saudi Arabia, and they basically had this live
Speaker 3: cross to Saudi Arabia and then they would do the
Speaker 3: unveiling in Australia at the same time. And the theme
Speaker 3: was that Australian music was playing in this venue. It
Speaker 3: was at the wharf across the road from the Tasman
Speaker 3: Hotel for the whole night except when they revealed the car,
Speaker 3: when they started playing Metallica enter Sandman and I'm like,
Speaker 3: great song, doesn't fit the theme of everything else.
Speaker 2: You're gonna say Saudi Arabian music.
Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, they started playing that, and then the
Speaker 3: silk silks came off the car.
Speaker 2: Okay, now this is the bit I'm interested in, right,
Speaker 2: So when the silks came off, ye, could you hear
Speaker 2: the gasps? Could you hear? Like, like, I just imagine
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, the Keia Tasman. Everyone's silent, and then
Speaker 2: you just hear the guy the bar making a cappuccino.
Speaker 3: It was it was like that scene out of total Recall,
Speaker 3: you know, we just got three boobs. It was like,
Speaker 3: that's something's od here. No, look, styling is entirely subjective.
Speaker 2: So it's what you tell me in the text message.
Speaker 3: Well yes, but like my wife married me, and I
Speaker 3: think that tells you enough, and someone will like the Tasmin.
Speaker 3: But my issue is more just the technical stuff, right,
Speaker 3: and if I look at the design where the head
Speaker 3: lights are.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's bizarre. They're like a goldfisher's eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're very outbuart and if you are doing
Speaker 3: a lot of off roading and you're driving through the
Speaker 3: bush and stuff and you hit those lights with trees
Speaker 3: and shit, you're going to basically break the lights. And
Speaker 3: those lights will be very expensive. So most brands will
Speaker 3: have in board lights so that you don't run the
Speaker 3: risk of doing that. The engine just seems like an
Speaker 3: odd choice. They've gone with what will be the lowest
Speaker 3: talk output in the segment, one of the lowest talk
Speaker 3: outputs in the segment.
Speaker 2: Is this the same engine they put in the Cyrene day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, palisade, right, but this way is more than both
Speaker 3: Sorrento Palisade and that type of thing. So I just
Speaker 3: think technically there's a few misses there in terms of
Speaker 3: the features though. The interior is fantastic. You know, it's
Speaker 3: got reclining seat. It's in the second rows. You can
Speaker 3: kick back and have a cuddle if you wants.
Speaker 2: Would you did you do that? Would you have a
Speaker 2: cuddle in the care tasma? On my own producer lives here,
Speaker 2: would you? Would you just yell out? Would you have
Speaker 2: a cuddle in the care tasma? You do what I
Speaker 2: do it? You take your nies off. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: You have to have them all to start with them?
Speaker 2: And does that? Yeah, well these days she doesn't, which
Speaker 2: is very handy whenever we lose her. It's just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what live is. Just follow the yellow
Speaker 2: drop road or.
Speaker 3: Anyway. So yeah, features great, It's got storage in the
Speaker 3: rear wheel, arch VKFC or your curry so you don't
Speaker 3: stick up the car.
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, look at those parts are good.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what do you think of the design?
Speaker 2: When I first saw it, I texted you, going, it
Speaker 2: looks like a tasmin like it looks in bread so
Speaker 2: and you went, well, the design is a bit challenging,
Speaker 2: to say the least. I'm like, okay, conservative Pabli, thank
Speaker 2: you for your opinion. We're on text message. I just
Speaker 2: don't think I like it at all. It's kind of
Speaker 2: weird because it was launched around the same time as
Speaker 2: the BYD Shark and I get ones A hybrid ones
Speaker 2: not that all that's a site design wise, I think
Speaker 2: that was a free point to BYD yep.
Speaker 3: And the bid looks like a clone of the Fine
Speaker 3: fifty Lightning.
Speaker 2: It looks like a clone of a lot of things. Yes,
Speaker 2: it looks like a clone of the Ranger, but that
Speaker 2: is a.
Speaker 3: Good point, right, So they had to do something different.
Speaker 3: It couldn't look just like everything else and everything else
Speaker 3: just kind of looks the same.
Speaker 2: Did they need to do something different?
Speaker 3: Well, you have to because you're you're launching a ute
Speaker 3: in a very competitive segment, and otherwise it's just going
Speaker 3: to look like everything else. It had to look different.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's too different, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for their first go for their debut.
Speaker 3: Well, it was funny. They actually had the designer and
Speaker 3: the interior designer on stage, thank god, And one of
Speaker 3: the first questions was is it too late to change
Speaker 3: the design? Ask that, Yeah, I can't remember who it was,
Speaker 3: but it was like, yes, it is opped in so yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think certain colors help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the black. I saw it in all black. It's
Speaker 2: like black, a black T shirt works on me fine,
Speaker 2: because it shades out my fat Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, hey hey, sure of course confidence subjective. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I just think that it's yeah, look, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Seven year warranty. Perhaps for fleets that don't really care
Speaker 3: what design looks like, they might go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you reckon? Do you like the look?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't have a mic on your just pretend
Speaker 2: you can come over here, just come over here, come
Speaker 2: over here.
Speaker 4: I didn't No, I didn't mind the I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4: I think it reminded me of a bit of the
Speaker 4: Ford Bronco. Oh yeah, okay, a little bit of that aspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had your eyes closed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see that at all. But talking about
Speaker 2: the same car, let's keep this mic on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's interesting where you look at, say, the placement
Speaker 2: of those headlights anything like a Toyota product, which is
Speaker 2: synonymous with being off road. Their headlights are right at
Speaker 2: the front. It's just it's a weird choice. And they're
Speaker 2: very thin as well. I think the interior looks good.
Speaker 2: I know I'm being hard on it. The interior does
Speaker 2: look good. I think they've done something great there. The
Speaker 2: thing is with their competitors, like I say, a Toyota,
Speaker 2: they've nailed it over the interior of a highlights absolutely right.
Speaker 2: But the outside it did soften on me, which is
Speaker 2: not unusual for me. As you know, it's pulverizing or polarizing, polarizing.
Speaker 2: What did I say pulverizing? I said that last time.
Speaker 2: It's polarizing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing my main thing. I do this for
Speaker 2: a living. It's polarizing. It's definitely out there. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to find some good bits to Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I think they're gonna have a challenge with pricing
Speaker 3: because you don't want it to be cheap because then
Speaker 3: it will be competing with Chinese vehicles. Don't want to
Speaker 3: be expensive because it doesn't have an engine for that,
Speaker 3: So it's going to be sort of middle of the range.
Speaker 3: I suspect, so they'll have a strong warranty seven years,
Speaker 3: which will be helpful.
Speaker 2: The key are good with that sort of stuff, I
Speaker 2: will say, with honoring warranty, they're great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's to watch this space, yes, And I
Speaker 2: think the shock value of the design will soften definitely
Speaker 2: when this thing is on the road, when we start
Speaker 2: seeing more of these cars and.
Speaker 3: The acesseries and stuff. I think as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so so in the let's just say, if
Speaker 2: it was a battle between the BYD Shark and the
Speaker 2: Kia Tasman, who won the launch, Ah, well.
Speaker 3: Look up I bydvo by virtue of the fact that
Speaker 3: it's fifty eight grand or whenever plus on roads that
Speaker 3: is so cheap, so cheap, like it's I think it's
Speaker 3: even cheaper than that. Yeah, So I think that point
Speaker 3: of view that they've won that, and it's just got
Speaker 3: so many features and all that sort of stuff. So
Speaker 3: I think they've done well with that. But yeah, well
Speaker 3: we'll see. I've got to drive that care first to
Speaker 3: see what it's like.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, I can't wait to see you in
Speaker 2: that with the Cowboy hat week ladies in gener verizing. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know what we should talk the new Jug, the
Speaker 2: new jug logo. What do you think?
Speaker 3: So let me just run through some stats here for you.
Speaker 2: No, the stats no one wanted and no one asked for.
Speaker 2: I literally asked for an opinion.
Speaker 3: Numbers. Here we go, so get my calculator out. Not
Speaker 3: just kidding. If you go to the Jaguar Instagram page,
Speaker 3: they literally deleted all of Jaguar's previous posts. Yes, so
Speaker 3: everything is gone. And then when they did their relaunch,
Speaker 3: they launched with the video and I thought, oh, I
Speaker 3: think someone has hacked their account, because there's no no
Speaker 3: way a car company would ever do this. So if
Speaker 3: you look at their Instagram page, they launaunched this rebrand
Speaker 3: six days ago. Since then, they have lost a lot
Speaker 3: of followers. So they had seventeen million followers and they've
Speaker 3: lost a few thousand of them. On the Friday the fifteenth,
Speaker 3: a couple of days before they did this launched, they
Speaker 3: basically removed two hundred pieces of media, which was Jaguar's
Speaker 3: entire history on Instagram. Yeah, someone had to go through
Speaker 3: and just randomly do that.
Speaker 2: So they only have four posts currently and three of
Speaker 2: them I'm not sure what they are, and one of
Speaker 2: them is a group of people.
Speaker 3: So that group of people, which is one of those
Speaker 3: standard advertisements where they just find all the people they
Speaker 3: can to just jam into this thing to make a statement. Anyway,
Speaker 3: the statement they made was we no longer care about
Speaker 3: our history and here is the biggest pileot pooh. We
Speaker 3: could come up with seven million views fifty thousand comments.
Speaker 3: I mean, who thought that was a good idea. It
Speaker 3: is a horror show of a thing. Because to me,
Speaker 3: if I saw this, I would not know this as
Speaker 3: a car company. I would have thought they were advertising
Speaker 3: some fashion show that I don't want to go to,
Speaker 3: But this is a car company. They then followed it
Speaker 3: up in the days after with a picture of what
Speaker 3: looks like an air conditioner and then Jaguar logo that
Speaker 3: they've they've managed to ruin as well. It is confusing.
Speaker 2: That does look like one of those old old school
Speaker 2: art deco like F one racing posters. Do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? It's vibe yeah, or air conditioner from
Speaker 2: the seventies. Do you know the fonts? The actual font
Speaker 2: is pretty much identical to the font they use for
Speaker 2: Beats headphones. Oh really, it's pretty much exactly the same.
Speaker 2: If you look at the A.
Speaker 3: But are they do they miss like misuse capitals and
Speaker 3: lowercase in beats headphones as well.
Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the beats.
Speaker 3: Because here it's capital J small A, capital G small,
Speaker 3: U small A small r's. Oh yeah, it's like literally
Speaker 3: the exact same.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, So they're copying headphones. Maybe they're just not going
Speaker 3: to do cars. Maybe that's their thing.
Speaker 2: Well, this is this is a confusing point because they've
Speaker 2: launched this too horror without showing one single car. So
Speaker 2: if I look at this subjectively, I think this has
Speaker 2: how many views? So seven million views, seven million views.
Speaker 3: Fifty thousand comments, but fifty thousand comments. They have been
Speaker 3: deleting comments as well, which is just a rookie fail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they should just definitely leave that. One
Speaker 2: would say this is excellent.
Speaker 3: Yeah from a reach and hey, Jaguar's rebranding point of view,
Speaker 3: it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: This could be one of the greatest pr advertising stunts
Speaker 2: of all time because you think about it, a conservative
Speaker 2: old brand. When was the last time somebody talked like,
Speaker 2: when did the motor industry talk this much about Jag
Speaker 2: And when was the last time they got seven million
Speaker 2: views and fifty two thousand comments or.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. So never never, So all you need
Speaker 3: to do is just get a bunch of strange looking
Speaker 3: people into a room and film them walking around.
Speaker 2: I think the people behind this, whether I think it's
Speaker 2: great or not, I think the people behind this are
Speaker 2: far more smarter than we are in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: Let me just ask you one point, right, My feeling
Speaker 2: is they know a lot of things that we don't
Speaker 2: in terms of they're like, you know what, the old
Speaker 2: conservatives who we know doing this podcast are very opinionated
Speaker 2: and loud. So the old conservatives who are their core
Speaker 2: audience and who have always bought Jags, they haven't bought
Speaker 2: a Jag in years, and there's not really much interest
Speaker 2: in Jag twenty twenty four. So now I feel like
Speaker 2: maybe they're just throwing out that leather bound rule book
Speaker 2: that the oldies have and they're now aiming for a fresh,
Speaker 2: cashed up crowd. I think they're just throwing everything out
Speaker 2: because young people now they've got more cash than ever before,
Speaker 2: and they're willing to like the new money people. They
Speaker 2: want to show it off.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's go with that theory, right, So they've
Speaker 3: gone all electric, that's their thing. These cars will cost
Speaker 3: probably from at least one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: At the moment, nobody is buying an electric car worth
Speaker 3: over one hundred grand. So automatically they're failing just by
Speaker 3: making only cars that no one's buying.
Speaker 2: But you're assuming that they're going to sell electric cars.
Speaker 3: Nowty thousand dollars. They are. No, They've said they're only
Speaker 3: doing electric. Yeah, their branding position will be premium. There's
Speaker 3: no way they're going to go, oh, we're going to
Speaker 3: do thirty nine nine ninety electric cars right.
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 3: And the reason I reckon they weren't expecting this reaction
Speaker 3: is because they're equally woke. CEO came out and said
Speaker 3: in an internal memo, their team, dear JLR team, Our
Speaker 3: new Jaguar brand has been introduced to the world this week.
Speaker 3: The work of the team has been guided and inspired
Speaker 3: by the timeless quote of Jaguar's founder, Sir William Lyons
Speaker 3: a copy of nothing. I think if he had seen
Speaker 3: any of this, he'd probably anyway it goes on. I'm
Speaker 3: also reminded of another quote from Sir William The car
Speaker 3: is the closest thing we will ever create to something
Speaker 3: that is alive. This humanistic, organic connection to everything that
Speaker 3: carries the Jaguar brand has never been more evident. Blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, and then goes down to say, in this context,
Speaker 3: the visceral response to the reimagining of the Jaguar brand
Speaker 3: is understandable, inspiring even. He then says, but for all
Speaker 3: the joy and excitement, there has been an undercurrent of
Speaker 3: unacceptable behavior this week. While I welcome all constructive debate
Speaker 3: and critique of our polarizing plans, I have to stand
Speaker 3: in front of the colleagues who have singled, who have
Speaker 3: been singled out for their individuality. It goes on with
Speaker 3: more apologetic stuff. But that to me, if you're then
Speaker 3: deleting comments you don't like, well that's not him. Well
Speaker 3: he's instructing someone to do that. Someone would have gone, hey,
Speaker 3: should we delete these comments that are open and honest
Speaker 3: about what people actually think.
Speaker 2: I don't think the head of the comedy is going
Speaker 2: delete the comment. That would be fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But if he's now coming out and apologizing for
Speaker 3: doing that, then I think he would absolutely know about it.
Speaker 3: So my concern is that if you're going to go
Speaker 3: out there and do this sort of stuff, except the flack,
Speaker 3: and the flack has been massive. I think this is
Speaker 3: backfired hugely for them. That the pr is great, but
Speaker 3: it's now just going to negatively affect what they do
Speaker 3: moving forward. You're going to have to change your strategy.
Speaker 3: You can't just keep going with this.
Speaker 2: You've got to evolve.
Speaker 3: And just the fact that they go through and then
Speaker 3: delete all the stuff they don't like that just annoys me.
Speaker 3: If you're going to go bold and do all that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff, great, but just stick to it and
Speaker 3: then just wait and.
Speaker 2: See what happens they want to start again, They're going
Speaker 2: to get flak, They're going to get the conservatives beating
Speaker 2: their chest.
Speaker 3: Can I also say as well, I actually feel sorry
Speaker 3: for a lot of the people that work at Jaguar
Speaker 3: because the designers, the engineers, everyone outside of the marketing.
Speaker 2: Team, advertisers advertizing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has nothing to do with all this nonsense.
Speaker 3: They're there to do their job and I think that
Speaker 3: any negativity towards them is unfounded and not required. But
Speaker 3: if you're copying negativity over how stupid your ad campaign
Speaker 3: is cop it on the chin and either don't do
Speaker 3: it again or stick with it and leave the comments
Speaker 3: and then if people buy your card, great. If that home,
Speaker 3: you lose your job. You go sell fashion, couches and
Speaker 3: stuff whatever you want to go sell couches.
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Speaker 2: for the jag Sorry there's the door. Thank you so
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Speaker 2: Hey, quick drives this week I quickly jumped into and
Speaker 2: I know you've spent a lot of time in the
Speaker 2: new Prato Quickly, what do we think.
Speaker 3: I'm just about to have a proper drive. I have
Speaker 3: sat in it, and I like the look of it,
Speaker 3: and I think from a packaging point of view, it
Speaker 3: looks cool. But let's see, let's see after I drive it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the underpower it might not be.
Speaker 3: You never know, Yeah, really, you ever know?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't know. I've got some concerns. I
Speaker 2: think the design looks great.
Speaker 3: I'm so on a scale of one to jag you
Speaker 3: or how can so.
Speaker 2: Different different scale, I would say, I'm not even on
Speaker 2: the ape scale.
Speaker 3: I guess it doesn't have pronouns.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's got no pronouns. It's not gender liquid
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's fantastic. No, I think that. I think
Speaker 2: they've I mean, we've seen and sat on this design
Speaker 2: for a long time. It looks great, it's accessible, and
Speaker 2: I think it's going to appeal to anyone from a
Speaker 2: young cashed up trade to an older conservative cashed up
Speaker 2: cashed up you'll have to be yeah, well that's where
Speaker 2: I was going to going with the criticism. But the yeah,
Speaker 2: I think the old school conservatives is like, my bloody
Speaker 2: dad's looking at this now. I did have a look
Speaker 2: in the boot of it. It has a horror shot
Speaker 2: so where they used to have the tire at the back.
Speaker 2: I actually think it's a great move to remove that.
Speaker 2: It looks makes the car look so much better. But
Speaker 2: what they've done is they put it under the car.
Speaker 2: That's kind of risen the boot. I don't know what
Speaker 2: about fifteen centimeters. Yeah, that's a bit Oh, how's it going?
Speaker 2: The price?
Speaker 3: Geez, that's like twenty grand more.
Speaker 2: It's expensive, and you're pretty much like for a decent
Speaker 2: spec you're looking at around about one hundred thousand on
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 3: Well, it is very fluid with a three hundred series
Speaker 3: in terms of price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they share the same platform too, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, we'll go into all detail on the
Speaker 3: next show.
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Speaker 3: It smells like my salon. It smells like hair gel
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Speaker 2: Plus, I've also got the Alfa Romeo Stelvia quadrifolia. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interesting, and you've spelt it here at Stelvia. Isn't that
Speaker 3: like a sweetener?
Speaker 2: No, that's my Greek maid? You doing? What are you going?
Speaker 2: Shut up? Stellavia iron the curtains. That car is only
Speaker 2: great after you hit a hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's getting on and I think they've they've also.
Speaker 2: It's expensive too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've kind of just not really bothered with it anymore,
Speaker 3: which is a bit interesting.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't think that crowd can afford it,
Speaker 2: Like it's a bloody expensive car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not expensive if you go in and actually haggle,
Speaker 3: because I don't think they're selling any of them, so
Speaker 3: they'll do a price on them.
Speaker 2: But this particular one doesn't have the sunroof, which I
Speaker 2: was disappointed for for the price. I'm like, I like
Speaker 2: a sunroof. It's just the problem is it's a it's
Speaker 2: an engaging car, it's direct, it feels great on the road.
Speaker 2: It does. It's just got a few little irks, which
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I wish they nailed it.
Speaker 3: Just entertainment's a bit shit.
Speaker 2: Yes it's I mean it's still plugged in, but even
Speaker 2: that's not working on me at the moment. So, like
Speaker 2: I won't say for all of them, but my particular
Speaker 2: press car, though infertainment's not working on it, I would
Speaker 2: have liked to have seen a sunroof. It makes this
Speaker 2: weird kind of I know the breaks are probably decent
Speaker 2: on it, but it's it makes this weird kind of
Speaker 2: almost like a shuddering at a takeoff, like anything, what's that?
Speaker 3: Did you run over anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stelvio, she stealthy is still under the car. So anyway,
Speaker 2: look it's I think it's an it's just got it's
Speaker 2: a it's a beautiful castill. It looks stunning, but it's
Speaker 2: just got a few It's like a bit of corn
Speaker 2: that gets stuck in my teeth. That just why did
Speaker 2: it have to do that? But otherwise it's it's a
Speaker 2: beautiful car. Once you're sort of add on the highway,
Speaker 2: it's it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look I think it looks stunning like that,
Speaker 3: even the sad and the yeah cook Julia, that looks
Speaker 3: great as well.
Speaker 2: I think they've done little sister, Yeah, she she does
Speaker 2: in my gardening. She goes, all right, hey, have you
Speaker 2: jumped in anything interesting lately?
Speaker 3: Been doing? Yeah? I had a quick drive with the B
Speaker 3: y D Shark. We'll have a proper drive soon, but
Speaker 3: pretty impressed on a first touch basis.
Speaker 2: Was it weird getting into a big bruty use and
Speaker 2: hearing silence?
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It is quite a weird experience. The
Speaker 3: interior is super high tech, ye, yeah, so it's it's
Speaker 3: about the few weird things though, like and it's got
Speaker 3: vehicle to loads you can power stuff at your campsite,
Speaker 3: but for it to work, you've got to have the
Speaker 3: car on. So if you're like a sleep in your
Speaker 3: tent running something at your campsite, someone could just hop
Speaker 3: in your car and just take it off your hands
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: That could, I mean, that could hopefully be a software up.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's just a few just demonstration. They didn't quite
Speaker 3: really quite get what they were doing. But I think
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff is software related, so hopefully
Speaker 3: it's easy to fix. We're going to do some towing
Speaker 3: and stuff with it as well. That interesting how that goes.
Speaker 3: But yeah, first touch, it's not bad.
Speaker 2: Does it feel really big because it's it is a
Speaker 2: big car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels heavy. It's like two point seven tons
Speaker 3: or something, so it's a big old thing. So yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know how some cars are huge, but they are just
Speaker 2: really easy to drive, like like Chevyes for instance. The
Speaker 2: Silverado is like the easiest big car I've ever driven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got lots of cameras and stuff, so it
Speaker 3: makes it easy to park. But yeah, TBC, Okay, looking
Speaker 3: forward to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, MG, cyberst supercar material, supercar material? Is it? Is it? Though?
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question because it's one I posed just
Speaker 2: before we started. Was when I went into the I
Speaker 2: picked this up from a dealership shout out to Alto
Speaker 2: north Shore thanks to the car. The head of the
Speaker 2: dealership called it. I said, wow, so one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty thousand drive away. Yeah, He's like, yeah, pretty good
Speaker 2: for a supercar. Right, I'm like, sorry, what supercar? Okay?
Speaker 2: Is that what we're going with? Is that? Does MG
Speaker 2: want that known that you you're telling customers that this
Speaker 2: is a supercar. What do you think defines a supercar? Um?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got acceleration like a supercar.
Speaker 2: But how would you define it?
Speaker 3: I think the supercar is a well rounded vehicle. I
Speaker 3: don't know that this.
Speaker 2: Is that sounds like that's just like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: this is a supercar. Champea just ruffle his hair, get
Speaker 2: out of here, Skelly wags, you know, thanks for that supercar.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I think it has to do more than
Speaker 3: you just go fast in a straight line.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was thinking about this, and I think
Speaker 2: anything that is pretty much out of the box that
Speaker 2: you can competitively take this to the track and on
Speaker 2: the road. Like I'm talking like a proper. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think track a weapon, and this is not a
Speaker 2: track car. How do you think it would go on
Speaker 2: the track.
Speaker 3: It'd be interesting that breaks, it's got Brenbo branded breaks,
Speaker 3: but the actual road, the actual the actual pads are
Speaker 3: pretty small. I think that it would have to have
Speaker 3: pretty good EV system cooling or will drive pretty big
Speaker 3: battery a lot of car and draw for that constant acceleration.
Speaker 3: The thing that kind of annoyed me for day to
Speaker 3: day stuff is just not being able to see the screens.
Speaker 2: Like behind the steering wheel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything's in the way, and it's so complicated, needlessly
Speaker 3: complicated that I just think that they could have maybe
Speaker 3: cleaned that up a little bit. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Ye, that didn't bother me strangely enough, I know what
Speaker 2: you mean though, Like technically it is behind the wheel
Speaker 2: and it is sort of like you kind of peek
Speaker 2: in here and there. I was surprised that this thing
Speaker 2: has got wired Apple car play, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's annoying.
Speaker 2: That's for one hundred and twenty thousand dollars for a
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five car. Like produce a live on and
Speaker 2: I went to the press launch of this and it
Speaker 2: was a great press launch, like, wow, the best I've
Speaker 2: ever been to. They pulled out all stops. It was amazing. Right,
Speaker 2: there was a lady with a floating stage playing playing
Speaker 2: a violin like twenty meters off the ground. There was
Speaker 2: bizarre went straight from there to film the Jaguar ad Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right. I don't think it's funny because I don't
Speaker 2: think that press launch needed to be that ritzy, because
Speaker 2: I think the car spoke for itself. I think it's
Speaker 2: the car is it actually holds.
Speaker 3: Its own right.
Speaker 2: I think the doors, I think it's cool looking and
Speaker 2: I think the doors are great. The most interesting first
Speaker 2: pressure impression ever was driving in this and taking it
Speaker 2: down the back streets and you're sort of going, say
Speaker 2: fifty k's and it's a quiet it's a quite relaxing ride,
Speaker 2: and I've never really had that with a convertible before.
Speaker 2: You know, there's always a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 2: of noise. Generally the engine is behind the seats and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on. It's actually quite relaxing.
Speaker 2: I think as a daily it's it's really good. I
Speaker 2: didn't get annoyed too much at all by the screens
Speaker 2: behind the steering wheel. Funny enough because I do get it.
Speaker 2: The parking was yeah, I mean that's where you're looking
Speaker 2: at the parking and those screens are quite small, aren't they.
Speaker 3: But well, I'm curious, Live, what did you think about it?
Speaker 2: Jump on the mic, come on over Live. Was at
Speaker 2: the press launch.
Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think? Looks wise, it was great. The door, the
Speaker 4: scissor doors, scissor doors were fantastic. I loved those. Gord,
Speaker 4: he looks good in it.
Speaker 2: You look good.
Speaker 4: It's all right. And Carlstopanovic was at the press law
Speaker 4: that was that was something.
Speaker 3: But the only funny guy in the room.
Speaker 2: Yep, that was right.
Speaker 3: Boom, that's enough, very good.
Speaker 2: I did Actually I did actually ask him where he
Speaker 2: got his fake hair from and he said far Lap.
Speaker 2: He went down to the Melbourne Museum and just pinched
Speaker 2: a bit off far far Up's cubes.
Speaker 3: It stuck that on his head. Good. But yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm keen to spend a bit more time in it.
Speaker 3: But we are actually using it in an upcoming drag
Speaker 3: racing series that we're doing, so we'll chat about that
Speaker 3: in the next episode as well. Because I'm kid to
Speaker 3: see how it goes.
Speaker 2: I think this is as a daily around the streets,
Speaker 2: as a convertible goes, as a you know, a proper
Speaker 2: driver's car. And that's the thing. That's this thing. I
Speaker 2: know it doesn't compete with saying m X or a
Speaker 2: Porsche Boxter, but I.
Speaker 3: Still see it's own niche. Really you think about it,
Speaker 3: there are no other convertible electric cars that are fast
Speaker 3: and supercars.
Speaker 2: So and by the way, that's that's it. That's probably
Speaker 2: the only thing that that the speed on that with
Speaker 2: the roof off, like if you're really going to cane
Speaker 2: that it's it's it's so bloody quick. It's ballistically quick.
Speaker 2: And I don't know about you. You're a tall, massive dude,
Speaker 2: and I am like a smurf. And yet I still
Speaker 2: found this My head was kind of going over the
Speaker 2: window a little bit. I've found it really weird. And
Speaker 2: you can't think the seats down exactly.
Speaker 3: What's because of the batteries. It doesn't have a like
Speaker 3: a windbreak at the back, so you're constantly getting like
Speaker 3: just buffeting inside the car.
Speaker 2: So I thought visually though, you can definitely like it's
Speaker 2: it's great. You can see all around you. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like this is a strong car.
Speaker 3: Is it worth the price?
Speaker 2: Oh that was a quick one hundred and twenty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars and LIVEO says, no, interesting, what would you buy instead?
Speaker 3: Can I work on yeap in the convertible? Faith?
Speaker 4: Oh that's a tough one, because there isn't It is different.
Speaker 3: In its own Yeah, because you go like m X
Speaker 3: five and then it's Boxer, which is going electric now
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: But how much is a Boxer? That's more like one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one undred.
Speaker 3: If you want a good one, but then new electric
Speaker 3: one will be expensive. So yeah, it's kind of it's
Speaker 3: a own niche.
Speaker 2: Look, I think it's still just that's it.
Speaker 3: You don't get to.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry, I didn't mean that. Yeah, sorry, say
Speaker 2: what you can, says Okay, whatever, let's keep going. This
Speaker 2: is still a roads to car. I think it's expensive,
Speaker 2: but it's it's a beautiful car. I think it's well done.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people have put a lot
Speaker 2: of hard work into this. I think it feels great
Speaker 2: on the road. I haven't put it to a drag
Speaker 2: test on a fucking airfield in the middle of god
Speaker 2: knows where. Yeah, but I think they've done a good job.
Speaker 2: I think they I actually think they'll sell a bunch
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think they've sold out the first allocations.
Speaker 2: So right, So yeah Genesis this week, my time is
Speaker 2: rapping on the Genesis.
Speaker 3: They want it back.
Speaker 2: I'm about to send it home, send it back to.
Speaker 3: The salath, just for a last blow dry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cut and blow My dog, My little puppy.
Speaker 3: Little little dripper's going to be sad. Oh.
Speaker 2: I took him for a spin the other day, got
Speaker 2: a little bit of cappuccino on his nose, stop it off,
Speaker 2: and got him a puppy chino. So it's look, it's
Speaker 2: been going nice, it's been going well. Yeah. What one
Speaker 2: thing I'll tell you if you ever get the GV sixty,
Speaker 2: don't get as much as the cream interior looks good,
Speaker 2: oh cream, stop it. As much as the cream interior
Speaker 2: looks good, looks so good against sicy skin, the cream
Speaker 2: interior looks good. But the carpets in it as plush
Speaker 2: as they are. Man, they're fucking hard to keep clean. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I often wonder with that. If you have a light
Speaker 3: colored into who cleans that stuff? You got a kid?
Speaker 3: What is in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always wanted the tan interior in the say
Speaker 2: the BMW's or like the Porsches for instance. But hmm,
Speaker 2: interesting that carpet. That carpet anyway, So the genesis is
Speaker 2: going good.
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