1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers Now, good Day. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: This is doctor Justin Coulson, the founder of Happy Families 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: dot com dot au, dad to six daughter's husband to 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: one wife, and the parenting expert and co host on 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: chan Lyne's Parental Guidance. Also the host of this podcast, 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: that Happy Families Podcast. Thank you so much for listening 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and allowing me into your life to hopefully be useful 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: in making your family happier. Today, I'm a Happy Family's podcast. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: A really special guest and somebody who's become a personal 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: friend and certainly a friend of the podcast. Amantha Imbat. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Doctor Amantha Imba has a business called Inventium and an 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic podcast called How I Work. Amantha has got 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: so much to offer the entire world. I love talking 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: with her and she joins me for today's Happy Families 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Lightning Round podcast. So Amantha joins me for a Lightning Round. Amantha, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're in for, do you. 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm scared? Should I be scared? 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: No, You'll be fine. Tell us as we start this 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: straight away, how many kids do you have and how 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: old are they. 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: I've got one daughter, Frankie, who is eighth. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Well that ruins my second question. Do you have a 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: favorite child? 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: Well, let me think about that. I think it's Frankie today. 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, the next question for you, I deal number 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: of kids. 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: I am a very happy only child and I wanted 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: one child, so that would be one. That would be 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: one because I had such a positive experience. But you know, 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: some days I go, oh, maybe it would have been 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: nice to have more, but I did choose one. 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Okay, how do you rate yourself as a parent? 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Oh? God, there's always room for improvement. I think so 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: so so much about it. I see a psychologist to 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: bounce around ideas with to be a better parent. So 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm quite obsessive about it, in like I 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: think a healthy way. But I would like to think 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: because I think about it so much and read so 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: many books about it, then maybe that makes me a 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: little bit better than I think I am. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Okay, what's something great that your parents did that you've 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: tried to continue in your parenting? 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: The unconditional love and support, that would be the biggest thing. 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, here's a tricky one, and this 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: is particularly tricky because you're co parenting. You and your 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: partner are no longer together. Who's the better parent you 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: or your partner? 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Goodness to me? 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: I love this question. 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Can I answer this question without alienating the other partner? 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 2: Or modesty aside? I think I'm doing pretty well well. 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: You know you should push that modesty aside. I just 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: love asking that question so people can squirm, and you 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: squirmed like everyone else. Thank you so much for that, Amantha. 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Next question, what's the hardest thing about being a parent? 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: I think it's it's seeing your child struggle with something 58 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: and knowing that one of the best things that you 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: can do is to not help them overcome it. Instead, 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: you can empower them with the skills to get through 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: it themselves. I really struggle with that. 62 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I love that answer though. If you could spend an 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: hour with your eight year old daughter Frankie at any age, 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: what age would you choose? And why? 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: I think the older she gets, the more I just 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: love our conversations. You know, the things that she says. 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: It's like that, like, there's no one else that I 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: would prefer to have a chat with than Frankie, even 69 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: though she's eight and I anticipate that that will get 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: better and better. Maybe that will go for a dip 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: in the teen years, but I think if it continues 72 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: on that trajectory, I think it would be pretty cool 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: to to her when she's an adult. 74 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so which age you haven't really answered the question. 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: I haven't answered the question at all. I'm going to 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: say maybe when she's my age forty four. I would 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: love to see what she has done in her life. 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: And when I'm older. I can't do the maths on 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: the spot, but that would be kind of cool. 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: What's the ultimate joy for you as a parent? 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: It's seeing Frankie laugh and her sense of humor. She like, 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: no one makes me laugh like Frankie. 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: I know this is supposed to be a lightning round, 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: but I've got to add something here. One of my 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: favorite answers to a question. Every now and again, I'll 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: do one of those rapid fire kind of things myself. 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: And one person once said to me favorite place in 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: the world, and I said, ah, in my wife's arms, 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: and they said, oh no, seriously, what's you favorite place 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: in the lord? I said, okay, right in the middle 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: of a big belly laugh with my kids and you've 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: just kind of said that same idea. Ultimate joy is 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: just seeing your children happy. It's just beautiful. Anyway, I digress. 94 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: We've got about five to go. Let's do it. This 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: one's this one. This one is the hardest one. This 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: is the hardest one. Are you ready? 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 2: Yes? 98 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: What's the right age for kids to have a mobile phone? Amantha? 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: Can I rephrase that question to what's the right age 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: for my daughter to have a mobile? 101 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Sure? Go for it. 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think as as a divorced parent, I felt 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: like about a year ago was when I gave Frankie 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: a dumb phone, so it does nothing but make calls 105 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: and send text messages, because I felt it was important 106 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: that if she was at my ex's house that she 107 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: could still communicate with me if she wanted to. But 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: in terms of her smartphone, gosh, it's so hard because 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm talking without experience, because I haven't 110 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: experienced having a child who's older than eight. 111 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've got a psychology degree, right, You're a psychologist, 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: you know everything. 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: Come on, gosh, yeah, Look, I would think in terms 114 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: of a smartphone as late as possible. I mean, not 115 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: a lot of good comes when you have a smartphone. 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, that's not an age, but I'm 117 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: going to accept it because time is running out. Clock's ticking. Okay, 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: last couple of questions. What's that thing that your parents 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: always said that you swore you would never say, but 120 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: it keeps popping out of your mouth. 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm a worry. 122 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: What? 123 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: Be careful, be careful, be careful on the monkey bars, Frankie, 124 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: you might break your arm. Be careful doing this thing 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: that all children should be doing. But I'm being a worry. 126 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: What that would be the thing? 127 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: What's Frankie's favorite thing to do with you? 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: Trade? Pokemon would be up there, and also. 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: At a moment, Pokemon. I know Pokemon. I don't do Pokemon. 130 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan, but it's not on my 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 2: don't list, and I do I also we at the moment, 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: we're playing a lot of exploding kittens, right, hard game, 133 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: not an actual activity to do with cats. 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Kids have the same game and they love exploding kittens. 135 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: What are you most looking forward to as a parent. 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of a woman 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Frankie grows into being. I'm deeply curious and excited about that. 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Second last question, if you could go back to you 139 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: as a young parent, having one of those tough moments 140 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: and being inexperienced, what advice would you give yourself? 141 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: Stop setting your expectations so high. 142 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: How are you going with that right now? 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: Not great? Need to take my own advice. 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Amantha Imber, the podcast host of 145 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: How I Work. What has been your biggest win so 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: far as a mum? 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean, divorce is never great for kids, but I 148 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: think that my greatest win is just seeing how resilient 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Frankie has been in adapting over the last nearly three 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: years to having essentially two separate lives, two separate houses, 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: two separate sets of things, And I'm just so I'm 152 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: just blown away by how amazing she has been during 153 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: this thing that she did not ask to happen, but 154 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: has happened in her life. 155 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Amantha Imber, thank you so much for joining me on 156 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: the Happy Families podcast for a lightning round. 157 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: Thank you and sorry for not being super lightning with 158 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: some of those answers. 159 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Amantha Imber is the author of time Wise and the 160 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: host of the How I Work podcast. 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