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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Katie, Good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning, Josh. Obviously

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Speaker 2: This is our health system we're talking about. We need

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Speaker 1: to use, you know, to enter different locations and businesses.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a bit of a passport. What do

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Speaker 1: you reckon about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I heard the chief minutes this morning on ABC

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Speaker 2: Radio who was asked, oh, well, what happens if you

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Speaker 2: take a screenshot of someone that's been given the all

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Speaker 2: clear and basically show that every time you walk into

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Speaker 2: a thing, And I don't think it's quite been thought through,

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Speaker 2: you know, and that's why people have so many questions.

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Speaker 2: He kind of didn't have a really good answer for that.

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Speaker 2: So it's so important going forward, you know, obviously, go

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Speaker 2: out there get vaccinated. That that's going to be the

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Speaker 2: clear message for everyone. That's how we get out of

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Speaker 2: this and we can go and see our family at

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Speaker 2: Christmas time. But we do need to make sure that

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Speaker 2: the plan going forward again with the opposition of sort

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Speaker 2: of briefing just so we can be brought up to

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Speaker 2: speed on everything that's happening. This is changing by the hour,

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Speaker 2: if not by the day, and we all feel like

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of information out there and

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Speaker 2: we want to make sure that when we speak to

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Speaker 2: people in the community, we're giving them clear and precise

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Speaker 2: information about what's occurring.

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Speaker 1: So well, Josh Burgoyne, we always appreciate your time. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on Cake