WEBVTT - THE RUNNERS UP OF SURVIVOR UNPACK THAT FINALE 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.120 TV Reload the podcast last week they light Welcome. 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.840 Back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:10.879 this podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.400 players in television. Each episode you will get a front 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:19.480 row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.680 and casting agents, plus the talent that we see on 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.560 our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that you were 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.720 currently watching and gives you a better insight at our 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.920 television industry and streaming services today. On the podcast, I 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.320 have two runners up and the fourth place contestants of 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:42.360 Australian Survivor Blood Versus Water. It is special guests Chrissy, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.519 Shay and Josh. I have put the guys together because 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.280 it would have been too repetitive to try and have 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.279 them separately. But together they make a brilliant chat and 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.600 I absolutely love spending this time with them. I had 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.840 a chat with winner Mark Wales earlier this week, but 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.560 I wanted to unpack the final moments with these guys. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.000 Chrissy is bloody hilarious, Shay was a challenge beast and 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.120 Josh's gameplay was epic. Probably just as epic has his 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.399 hair in my eyes. This chat's pretty long, so I'm 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.240 gonna get into it pretty quickly. We will unpack some 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.160 brutal moments from their gameplay and their candles has a 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.160 lot about the type of people they are. Anyways, I 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.280 hope you enjoy this episode. Let's welcome Chrissy, Shay and 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.000 Josh to TV Reload. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.280 These guys are taking the game of survivor very seriously. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.120 I had to fight my way through, use my physical strength. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.680 I would have heard it for Josh and I might 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.080 have been the other person butted for Josh. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.440 The last forty seven days have been the hardest forty 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.720 seven days of my life. Chatter is villains and heroes, all. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.040 Right, Josh questions to you have someone bloody? Let it 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.080 out when I'm Australian survivor blood versus water? 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.440 To be honest, though, what you didn't see the day 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:00.200 that I passed up? 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.000 Hi Josh, how are you? 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:03.440 Ben? 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.840 I'm great? Thanks mate, thanks for having me. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.079 Good to have you on the podcast. Hi Chrissy, how 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:09.720 I hello? 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:10.639 Bennie Norris? 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:11.160 How are you? 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:11.800 I'm good? 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.079 I'm even better with you here. Hi Shay, how are 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.040 you tired? 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.160 And relieved that it's all over. I'm so spent from 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.560 just watching the watching every episode and going what are 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.400 they going to show today, Like, what's going to be 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.320 in the edit? It'll be good, it'll be bad. Will 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:29.080 I look like a fool? 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.080 No, you were great. I think you were great. I 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.600 think you can tick those boxes now and just be 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.800 very happy with your survivor experience. You got the survivor's showbag, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.800 as I like to say, got the right to the 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:39.320 very end. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.200 Thank you. It was tough. It was definitely not the 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.560 same game as those in the majority, so it felt 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.760 it felt like a rough ride pretty much from Merge onwards. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.280 Well, last night must have been surreal. You know, what 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.280 was your reaction actually to watching the finale last night? 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.440 I mean, I wasn't surprised. Christy and I looked at 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.080 each other halfway through the coquestions during the final trouble 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.400 and went, well, we are just being annihilated here. It 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.880 was brutal, and I kind of went blank, honestly, and 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.160 even I look back and I can't remember the words 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.560 that were said. But it was more the emotion behind it. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.280 There was just so much coming from the final, you know, 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.240 from the jury that Christy and I knew, okay, well 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.279 we have been we have been absolutely crucified. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.639 And then they make you film your reaction as though 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.360 you win. Can you give me that face? Now, this 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.320 isn't good for a podcast, but can you give me 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:36.880 your I've just won Survivor. 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.760 Oh wow, I don't know how I got here. I 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.400 could not I could not fake it. I was like, guys, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.400 that is that is when I could have put money 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.840 on that it was going to be ten yeal, I 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.720 should have I should have put five hundred k on 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.080 Mark winning and then I would have won as well. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:59.240 Yeah, did you realize that's called inside training and then 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.680 goes to jail. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.960 At less. It's good publicity, right, any publicens. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.440 Well, it's got to be better than purgatory. Chrissy, what 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.240 about you? Are you happy with what was shown in 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:11.840 the finale? 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.160 You know what, I'm so happy with what I saw 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.520 for the finale because it's not what I really remember 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.520 being there that night. Obviously we've been out for a while, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.120 so that's been quite triggering for me because it was 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.840 a lot, let's say that, and to watch it and 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.159 see what Astraya saw, I'm so proud and I'm so 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.279 happy how that came off. And yeah, I'm really happy 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.080 for marking. Shay was really really good as well. And yeah, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.640 it is what it is. That's exactly what you saw 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.120 is just what I wanted you to see. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.760 What about you, Josh? Coming out fourth was a brutal excent. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.440 How did that play out for you watching it? 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.640 I wasn't looking forward to watching it, to be honest. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.520 You know, it's a hard pill to swallow knowing that 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.960 you got that close. But it wasn't as bad as 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.240 what I thought. It's yeah, and I knew that, you know, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.560 we had the like I'll put on a bit of 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.360 an angry to try and make the guys squirm, but 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.360 I knew I was worried about how that would come across, too, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.400 And yeah, it was just funny watching it back, But 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.680 that wasn't It wasn't too bad. 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:08.080 I was a little terrified. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.599 Yeah, well I thought, you know, just make him earn it, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.440 but it was it was all good Spirits actually cut 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.280 out me at the end when I got voted out. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.720 I said goodbye to everyone, and you know, I said, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.919 no hard feelings, guys, love is all and they just 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.640 cut all that out. So I'm like, oh, here we go. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.640 They're going to make me look like a real, real prick. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.000 But it's all good. I wasn't too. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.360 Salty, mate. When you look as handsome as you do, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.040 you can get away with a lot. In Australia's book, 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:32.839 let me tell you. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:33.719 Yeah, well I don't. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:33.960 I don't. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.080 I don't read into the comments too much anyway, So 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.160 you got to take the good with the bed. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.160 I suppose how hard was it to keep that result 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.279 or should I say the outcome a secret? 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.080 Someone bloody let it. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.000 Out because Mark was a dollar fifty on sports but 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.599 from day one, so I don't know what was going 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.039 on there. Everyone else is like fifty bucks and Mark 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.640 was paying a dollar fifty from day one, so I 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.320 don't know, but it was fine for me. I liked 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.480 anyone who's asking me, all, how'd you go? Where'd your cama? 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.200 I realized, like, just let him enjoy the show a 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.360 bit more, you know, like that made the show interesting 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.600 when no one knew the results, So it wasn't too bad. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.320 Because if you only came third and you were out 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.880 there for eight and a half weeks, people are going 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.320 to know you came third, second or first. It's very 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.000 clever that the jury's there. I live in a little town, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.320 like a little state, Suntime coast, so everyone thinks it's 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.240 okay to go. Who won. I'm like, I'm not going 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.720 to tell you. I can't tell you, but I just, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.480 you know, I was able to say, obviously, I make 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.599 the final ten. And they didn't know how long until 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.200 each night when I was still on the show. Oh 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.400 she's gone another week. Oh she's gone another week. Oh 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.320 my god, she lasted another week. You know. Yeah, but 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.640 I can keep a secret. I have a very bad 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.360 poker face. But for something like that, you know. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.400 Yeah, I guess for something like this, Shaye, what about you? 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.440 Was it hard to keep your Survivor story a secret? 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.600 Not that hard because I had kind of disassociated from it. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.240 I always head deep into my UNI and just not 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.520 not really too much with the drama of the show. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.960 There was a lot going on, even socially with the majority. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.560 They were still the majority outside of the game, having 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.600 lots of catchups and meetups, and I just wasn't really 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.800 involved in that, And so for me it was pretty 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.640 easy to not accidentally let it slip. My family sort 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.120 of knew because they were there on the night and 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.800 even when they give me big hugs, I was like, oh, 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.040 this is just embarrassing. You know, I couldn't help but 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.560 show how embarrassing was for them for the final tribal 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.440 and so this whole time they've known. But the frustrating 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.280 part was people saying, hold on Hope. I'm like, I 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.720 really don't think I won, and they're like, nay, You've 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.120 got to got a hold on hope. I'm like, oh, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.640 this is joining. It was so adjoining. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.360 Well, it sounds like a lot was going on for 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.360 you guys in the waiting process. When did you find 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:44.560 out who the winner was? 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.080 We went to Sydney. They flew this into Sydney for 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:52.920 Final four. Yeah, and we were all like wow, really. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.760 Really I always wondered whether or not they offer you 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.080 a cash bonus if you, guys keep your mouth shut. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:02.720 They should. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.720 That'd be nice to help you swallow the bit of 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.720 pill when you get voted out in the final hurdle. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.200 We're not better. You know, this might make you feel 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.640 a little bit better. But if who Weekly still ran 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.960 most Sexiest TV Star of twenty twenty two, I think 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.240 you'd be in the running. Did your head nearly explode 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.280 reading any of the comments that we're on social media 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.800 because there was just a lot of love for you. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:25.760 Really, Oh that's good. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.080 I honestly don't read the comments because you know, you 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.560 get the love and you get the hate too, And 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:31.920 I just thought, can't be bothered. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.760 You can't get into the arguments with people watching saying oh, you. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.240 Should do this, you should do that. So no, I 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.040 just try to keep grounded. And I actually didn't want 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.120 to be known as the hair guy. I tried to 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.080 wear my hat every challenge. They wouldn't let me. Jonathan 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.640 one day goes, oh, Josh's hair somehow always perfect. I'm like, Jonathan, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:50.960 please don't start that up. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:51.560 You know what I mean. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.959 But yeah, and I suppose if people are saying that, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.240 it's cool, but try and keep your level head and 0:08:59.400 --> 0:08:59.960 keep grounded. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.680 Hmm, Shaye, how hard is playing a strain and survivor 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.240 with your partner? You know? Were you worried that the 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.040 game you know, would or could change your relationship? 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.560 Yeah, to be honest, like seeing him the first day 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:19.120 after being well, not first day at the final tribal 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.120 when he turned up, He's never held me so tight before. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.080 He was like, I'd never want to leave you like 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.960 for that long again, So both good and bad things relationship, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.880 because obviously it's good being separated, you know you what 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.520 is it. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.160 Makes the heart growth fonder? 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.719 Isn't a distance? Yes, we definitely felt like we had 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.600 had that time apart and we were just really happy 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:45.160 together after. But watching it back, you know, watching people 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.319 say certain things about your partner that can be quite challenging. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.480 So like some things came up when right before merge 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.880 Chrissy and Khan and Sam around the camp saying that 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.040 Jem's sorry, and jim Ben is quite aggressive in the 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.840 way that he responds to things, you know, winning all 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.520 he throws attention to me the way and I looked 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.240 at him as we're watching the show and I said, oh, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.120 that's got a bit of merit to it, you know, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.560 like you get pretty fiery about things. And he definitely 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.280 disagreed and said there was a bit of tension there 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.400 and not who's right, but where do we stand on this? 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.680 Like is it an aggression thing or is it okay? 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.040 So he said that he sees it as passion, and 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.400 I a little bit disagreed. So then yeah, there's definitely 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.920 like things you start to pick a part about each 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.720 other just from seeing the edited version of your game. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:34.840 All right, Josh, what questions do you have? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:43.319 Pritty right, we had it from the start, the bond 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.040 that we built. You're calling me family, you know, and 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:47.640 we say we're going to look out for each other 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.240 the whole way through the whole game. You pitch loyalty, family, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:55.319 you're talking about my new incoming baby. We're family together. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.520 He just threw me under that. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.240 Pose. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.480 My question is it was just you. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:07.240 Know why, I've been looking into your blue eyes the 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.920 whole time. You are absolutely my number one, and my 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.679 social cues picked up that you had changed yesterday, and 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.200 for the first time ever, we talked strap and I 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:18.680 didn't want to. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.440 Talk to strat with you. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:26.880 I just wanted to talk to you. You were different 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.760 and I knew you were coming for me, so I 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:30.839 had to be super brave. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.199 Josh, I need to ask you about that water cooler 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:41.480 moment post finale. Did you somehow forget that you'd voted 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.760 for Christy too? There was a lot of questions online 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.560 surrounding that double standard. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.680 Yeah, well, look, I think again, it come across the 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.080 wrong way. I understand I was going for Christy I 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.880 wasn't upset at Christy for voting for me. I think 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.440 it was just the fact that she said were one 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.200 and two the whole way, and then I sense I 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.280 was slipping her, so like I didn't go. I feel 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.240 she went for me first by doing the Mark votes. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.959 You voted for Jordi when I was trying to protect 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.640 both of us in the day vote. So there was 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.400 like steps to leading to that. Again, you just say, 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.160 there's so much going on out there that you just 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.880 you know, your game just crumbles and you're just upset, 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.360 and we're all human, we have like emotions and so 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:20.600 you're just trying to process it all. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.240 But there was definitely. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.319 No yeah, I understand that comment, but I was more 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.439 upset that all of a sudden, you know, we were 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.040 together the whole way and then at the last minute 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.840 she thought she had a shot against Mark, and so 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.440 they go and take Mark to the end and then 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.000 Mark wipes some ten nil. Because I knew that, you know, 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.400 the jury, they didn't respect Chrisy's game that much. They 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.439 didn't respect Shay. So I was like, well, you say 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.480 that we're tight one and two and then you you know, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.280 you'd go and give it to Mark sort of things. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.760 So I don't know, it's a lot to take in. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.240 And yeah, I get that double standard called I don't 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.160 mean it. It's just your emotional We were humans, Chrissy. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.480 I want to stay on this. You threw Josh under 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.080 the bus, made it to the final three, which was 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.560 in my mind, out of the cannon for you. Do 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.080 you wish that you hadn't felt the pressure to make 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:08.800 a big move? 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.000 No, because what was my resume? You know, I'd done 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.400 a few things and I'd been part of lots of votes. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.520 But I just thought he was my big move, you know, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.840 like if I executed how I thought it was going 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.240 to happen, Mark was my move. I was going to 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.520 take the soldier out the night before, but the girls 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.840 didn't do it. The girls flipped and went Josh. So 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.440 when they flipped and didn't have me, I was like, 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.040 this is what happens. You go one time for strategy 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.120 in your whole game. I'd ditch out on Marquee and 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.160 now I got to go back to camp and look 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.800 at those two and go keep me around, you know, Sorry, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.959 my bad. So I was like, nap, You'll go on kJ. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.960 So many people have said to me this morning. If 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.040 you had ten seconds to think when you got up there, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.800 because I was up, I was all high mighty, you 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.760 bloody girls. You didn't have my back, right, You're going 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.560 to pay for that cage, you know, because she had 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.000 to stay. You can go and then everyone's like Chrissy. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.560 If you just thought for ten seconds, Josh Mark, sorry, Josh, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.280 could have been that move. Mike would have been neck. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.200 Would I have gone Final three with the girls, Could 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.400 I have won? Blah blah blah, It doesn't matter. I 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.959 was loyal to the end, Joshua for me as much 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.000 as I went for him, So. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.280 Showing myself that I am a physical threat. I'm an 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.240 absolute beast and could have gone for an extra half 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.160 an hour, hour and that final challenge. This whole time, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.400 I've been at the bottom, actually fighting for my life. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.760 That is why I'm deserving a sal survived. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:32.120 One of the biggest things in Survivor is your final pitch. Shay. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.120 I have to ask, were you happy with that final 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:36.720 pitch that we saw go to wear? 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.400 My pitch was? I mean, obviously only seen and edited 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.880 part of it, but I struggled because I'm not a 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.440 salesy person. I don't know how to talk myself up. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.640 I've never been like that. I'm not overly confident, so 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.120 to I knew my heart why I felt like why 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.440 I felt deserving of the Soul Survivor title. But to 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.360 portray that with the right words under so much duress 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.440 and sleepiness and no foo or my brain, I really struggled. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.480 And I think that Mark is if Mark was as 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.920 skinny as us girls, maybe he would have struggled to 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.000 find the right words. I mean he's a wordsmith, like 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.520 he's written a book, he's been in there. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.120 Yeah, like public speaker. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.400 Well he's the public exactly. It's built in his DNA 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.440 to be able to pick the right words. My brain 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.720 was spaghetti. There was just slop in there that I 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.720 had no words. People would ask me questions and I 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.120 was like stair at the fire and hope to God 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.280 that words enter my brain. Like there was not enough 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.320 calories in me to work. I just didn't work. I 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.040 didn't function as a human. So having said that, my 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.400 greatest downfall was my pitch. For sure, I couldn't get 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:44.280 it across the jury. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.680 People liked it, you know. There was a lot of 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.240 people on Twitter and not the Twitter is the vox 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.720 pop of the world, but there was a lot of 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.200 people that really liked you, pitch. You're a very smart, intelligent, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.600 beautiful woman, and I think that sometimes self can be 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.280 really hard. I mean, I'm I think I'm a very 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.160 social person, but once self doubt comes in, it's really 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.320 hard for me to get rid of it. So I 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.200 have to do a bit of self talk. It's not about, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.480 you know, loving yourself, but I think I just had 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:16.800 to learn to back myself. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.480 Yeah, yeah, no, thank you. I do think if I 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.000 got the opportunity to go again, I would, but I 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.880 would definitely take a couple of acting classes and just learn. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.360 That's what I think it needs. I think you just 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.560 need that, like what you said, you learn to give 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.520 you a little bit of a partner back and not 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.440 be afraid to boast about your game and to put 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.120 it on show. I think I was afraid to come 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.000 across silly. I don't know, but. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.800 You're still stepping out of your comfort zone. You still, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.119 I mean, this is the thing I think on television, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.040 regardless of what show you're on, you need to be authentic, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.760 you know, and if it means you're a bit villainous, 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.880 I say to people, well, that's just who If that's 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.640 who you are, then people will still love that, you know, 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.520 and if you are the comedian whatever it is, you know, 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.200 I think that you do need to lean into it. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.120 So I think you acting lessons might work well in 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.440 convincing people with probably getting them to come with you 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.760 in the strat talk, but overall, the audience is still 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.480 who you want to be playing up to. And I 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.240 think that you know, you walked away authentically being yourself 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:15.679 and there's a lot of people that love you for that. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.080 Oh that's really nice to hear. I've been trying to 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.760 say offline and not read the comments, so it's good 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.040 to get that summary. And I'll take the positive spin 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.160 on the comments. I'll leave it there. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.800 So do you think because this was a lock like 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.520 Mark took the competition out? You know? And I don't imagine, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.840 and I haven't watched every Survivor, but I imagine that's 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.080 probably one of the first times it's ever happened. But 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.639 do you think that if Chrissy or Sha had better 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.240 pictures the result could have been different? 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:44.720 Ah? 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.640 No, No, I don't think so. I think Chrissy may 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.160 Well Christie's pitch is pretty good. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:51.200 Yeah, it was very good. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:52.120 Yeah it was good. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.720 So no, I think it was just that's that was 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.800 part of where my frustration stemmed from, is that I 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.800 actually felt like I had better relationships with Christy and 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.400 Sha and then they just went and gave it to Mark, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.480 Like I think it was it was too late to 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.040 try and do a big move, like it's not going 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.119 to get done like that. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.600 When like your player's loyalty. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.240 Then going against the loyalty at the last one is 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.160 probably not going to get the job done. So yeah, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.040 I think that's where part of the frustration came from. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.640