1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on Them, the podcast for 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another one 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: of our money diaries where I get the absolute pleasure 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: of talking to one of our beautiful She's on the 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: Money community members all about their journey. Let's jump straight 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: into it, because this week I got a message and 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: it went like this, Hello, beautiful, She's on the Money team. 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm a thirty one year old recovered methanphetamine drug addict. 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: April twenty twenty three was my five year clean sobriety, 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: and I couldn't be more proud of how far I 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: have come. I was heavily addicted for several years until 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: I accidentally felt pregnant, which switched my mindset instantaneously, and 24 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: I haven't touched or craved for any substance since ever 25 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: since falling pregnant. I also have changed my money story, 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: aiming to set us both up for a safe and 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: comfortable life. I'm a single mum, so I didn't start 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: working until August late last year in twenty twenty two. 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: I've only been living off cent link up until then. 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Since listening to She's on the Money, I have accomplished 31 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: so much and I would love to share my story 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: with you Money Diarist. I feel like this is going 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: to be such a good and such inspirational story. Thank 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: you for joining us. 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: Thank you. 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: I already know it's going to be good because we 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: had such good boun to off air, so I'm ready 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: to bring that on air. At the start of every 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: money diary, I like to ask the same question, so 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: let's start their money Diarist. If I asked you to 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: give your money habits a grade from A through to F, 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: what would you grade your habits today. 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 4: I would give myself a B a B. 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: I love it all right. My favorite question, let's dive 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: into it, money diarist. I want to know can you 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit more about your money story. 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: So my mum was a single mother of five. I 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: was the baby, so things were a little dismal, but 49 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: we never went without the essentials. I remember my mum 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: working longer hours than most parents, agnol, felt like she 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: was never there. I did attend a private school, however, 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: the costs were covered by settling. 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: Oh cool, Yeah, that was good. MAM's a hustler. 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: She did end up meeting my stepdad when I was 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: around nine, and the older siblings moved out, so things 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: got a little lighter. However, we still seem to be 58 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 4: living paycheck to paycheck. We never did talk about finances 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: or money, just the occasional. I can't afford that, sorry, honey. 60 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: Never ate out. We never went on holidays, but we 61 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: did go camping and that was a blast. 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: When I was thirteen, I ended up working for the 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: farmer across the road, milking cows at four am. 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: At four am. Oh my gosh, no chance, absolutely no 66 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: chance for me. 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: It was tough. I wasn't paid in cash though I 68 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: was paid in livestock. 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh very cool. 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: I had another job at waitressing when I was around 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen, and when I was nineteen, I saved 72 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: enough money to be able to go to Canada by 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: myself for three months. 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 76 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: See, things were looking quite bright for me until I 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: found myself in trouble around the age of twenty one 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: twenty two, dabbling in drugs and then unfortunately becoming very 79 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: highly addicted. My value doesn't drive for anything changed dramatically. 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Can you tell me a bit more 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: about what that gateway was like, because obviously, going from 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: you know, the short money story we've heard of, like yep, 83 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: I was getting up for him milking the cows, I 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: was getting paid in livestock all the way through to 85 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: look twenty one twenty two, I got mixed up in 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: some stuff that you know, I'm sure you wish you didn't, 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: But how did that happen? Was it the people that 88 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: were surrounding you? Was it something you sought out? Was it, 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, working in a particular wait trusting job like 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit more about that It was. 91 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: Actually my family, so I was around it for two 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: years before I actually tried it. I went into the 93 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: wrong pathway from family influence. I think they all feel 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: pretty bad about that, but we were all in a 95 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: bad situation and we're thankfully all of us out of 96 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: that now too. 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: Love love to hear that. 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah for us, but yeah, So it was the wrong 99 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 4: pathway to go down, and I happened to get into 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: the wrong place, wrong time, family, and we're all looking 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: up now. 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: So what did that look like when it came to 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: I guess your money story. Obviously, when you're purchasing substances 104 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: like that, they're not cheap. How did you fund that? 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: What did that look like? 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: So there's like friends or friends, You've got different platforms 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: where you can find it, and people just want to 108 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: hang out with you and supply the drugs. Majority of 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: those are men. Unfortunately, yep, I had a sugar daddy too, 110 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: so he. 111 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: Was This is going to be the spiciest money story. 112 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to dissect this. Even more so. 113 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: He was involved in the drug game too. I just 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: loved to spend time with young females and supplying as 115 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: much drugs as he could. He was pretty well off. 116 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was basically it was easy to get 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: a hold of. 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: Because you just asked him in it would be straight 119 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: into your pocket. I suppose definitely. Yeah, how did you 120 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: get introduced to? I guess those people, because it goes 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: above and beyond being in a situation where you're like, look, 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: family introduced me. They were doing it and you know, 123 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: tried it a few times and kept getting it to 124 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: going all right, well, I'm going to get a sugar daddy. 125 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: And I mean that's a fair choice as long as 126 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: everybody in that circumstance is consenting. Like who am I 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: to judge? But I look at it and go all right, well, 128 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: how did you decide that was for you? And how 129 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: did you get out of it? Importantly? 130 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wasn't looking for a sugar daddy. It 131 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: didn't happen like that. It just happened to be one 132 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: of my friends. Well, people that I was hanging out 133 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: with that we did drugs with. They were hanging out 134 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: with this older guy and he supplied everything to them 135 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: and you know, bought them fancy things and stuff, and 136 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: then it was just bringing your friends and I was 137 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: one of those, And yeah, it just went from there. 138 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense, though, because if you're like 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: this guy gives me exactly what I'm looking for, it 140 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: becomes very easy. 141 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, it did, and it was probably too much, to 142 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: be honest, So yeah, where it went downhill too easily 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 4: accessible for me, and it was a three, four times 144 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: a day sort of usage that got out of hand. 145 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And then in your letter into us, 146 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: you said I felt pregnant and instantaneously I cut it. 147 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: I didn't crave it, I don't use the substance. I'm 148 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: not interested in it. How did that change you? Because 149 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: obviously that's not a situation that everyone finds themselves in. 150 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: I wish it was, because obviously that would be a 151 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: really beautiful outcome for absolutely everybody and their babies in 152 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: that circumstance. But how did you make that switch? Because 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, the drug we're talking about is incredibly addictive, 154 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: and that can't have been a very nice process to 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: have gone through. 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: I was around it for a while, and I had 157 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 4: a lot of friends that had a lot of kids 158 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: as well, and I just remember looking back and thinking, 159 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: I do not want to bring a child into this world. 160 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: And I was adamant about that. When I found out 161 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: I was pregnant, I actually had drugs on me. I 162 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: was about to you know, consume them, and someone was like, 163 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: you might be pregnant because I was like two weeks late, 164 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: and I was like, nah, you're not possible. I ended 165 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: up going down to the pharmacy coming back and I 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: was pregnant. Yeah. I was blown away through those drugs 167 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: to my friends and have never looked back. 168 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so proud of you. That's such 169 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: a big decision because it would have been such an 170 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: awful like withdrawal process, and like, you know, I know 171 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: that you said you haven't craved them or wanted to 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: do that, but like your body would have been going, hey, 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: where's this stuff that I'm so dependent on? How did 174 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: you do that? I'm so intrigued because it's such a 175 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: powerful story. 176 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I went to my doctor, told them the 177 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,479 Speaker 4: drug usage that I was doing, how much I was consuming, 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: that i'd fallen pregnant, and that I wanted to, you know, 179 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: do as much as I can to get us both 180 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: healthy and good. So basically I moved back down to 181 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: my hometown and with my mum, went into hibernation and 182 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: all I did was eat and sleep more than I 183 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: ever have before. 184 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: I mean, pregnancy sometimes does do that to you too, 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: so it might have been a mix of all of it. 186 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: My friends. Yeah, I want to know a bit more 187 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: about your money story because you're now thirty one, so 188 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: that was back when you were twenty one twenty two, 189 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: and obviously times have changed. You have a beautiful baby 190 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: now or a beautiful toddler. Now, tell me a bit 191 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: more about life today. What does it look like. 192 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: Gosh, she is a little ray of some chum, but 193 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 4: she has a hell of a lot of attitude. 194 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best way to be. I love her already. 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: We're good. So we have daycare and Kindy So she's 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: at Kindy now, which is cute and swimming lessons. Life 197 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 4: is so fulfilling, like having a child just makes life 198 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: so much better. There's so much more value and meaning 199 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 4: and it's just a rainbow every day basically apart from 200 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 4: the attitude and sassiness. 201 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: Now that makes it even better. No, I love it. 202 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. Life is amazing, all right. 203 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: I want to know now. You mentioned before that you 204 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: didn't start working until August last year. What do you 205 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: do for work now? How much money do you warn? 206 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: I do admin, payroll and account support, so I do 207 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: twenty five hours a week with a forty five minute 208 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 4: drive each way. Oh my gosh, I'm on forty four 209 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: thousand a year plus super. But I don't claim the 210 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: tax free threshold, so I get about thirty three in 211 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: my bank. But in saying that, I still get settlink. 212 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: I receive single parenting payment yep, family tax benefits, which 213 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: is about seventeen thousand a year. And then I also 214 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: have a sidehouse on the weekend. 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, of course you do. 216 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: What is that? 217 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: I set up like play for kids' parties and I 218 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: stare it, so it's another company that owns it, and 219 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 4: I'm just a trade off of that, which is pretty 220 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: good because my daughter can come with me and she 221 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: helps me set up. 222 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And you'd love it too, because you'd 223 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: be like, oh, we're setting up basically a park for 224 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: all of these little babies. 225 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like a bullpit and stuff, and she'll just 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: like get in there. 227 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: She's got to test it. She's quality control. 228 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: She does pretty good. 229 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love that so much. So what 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: does the side hustle bring in each year. 231 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: About five over five thousand. 232 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's good cash for a few things that you 233 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: get up to on the weekend. 234 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: Though it doesn't take up much for my time, so 235 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: it's good and it's good that she can come with me. 236 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Works well, where does your work life balance come into that? 237 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: You've mentioned you've got a young child there in daycare 238 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: and kinder You, you know, are driving forty five minutes 239 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: each week from work. You're doing side hustles on the weekend. 240 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a personal life? Are you like dating? 241 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: What's going on there? 242 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: I'm in an actual polyamory relationship. 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: Okay, didn't see that coming. 244 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so have a girlfriend, she has a partner, yep, 245 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: and I can if I like to, but not really 246 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: interested in it. We've been together nearly two years now. 247 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: Oh very cool. Can I be real pervy and ask 248 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: about how the dynamics of that work? What does that 249 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: actually look like? So, if your girlfriend has a partner, 250 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: do they live full time together? Like, how do you interact? 251 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 252 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: She has a primary other, they live together, they're engaged. 253 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 4: But we all get along really well. It was a 254 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: bumpy at the start. I go up to their house 255 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: and I stay all the time and my daughter stays 256 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: in their spare room. We get along really good. It 257 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 4: works really well. 258 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: How good. Tell me about the financial side of it, though? 259 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: How do you split it three ways? 260 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: Like? 261 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: Is it them paying more because you're the single kind 262 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: of in this relationship or what does that look like? 263 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: All of our finances are separate, so they don't share finances. 264 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: I don't share finances. However, her male partner is a chef. 265 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: This is a good deal for everybody involved. 266 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: He gets fresh produced too, from one of his suppliers. Weekly. 267 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: He brings me a box of goodies. Oh my gosh, yeah, 268 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: this reduces my grocery bills, like dramatically. 269 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: Adore this whole polyamory thing, Like you're selling me on it. 270 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: Can you tell me what long term looks like? Obviously 271 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: they're engaged, they're planning on I'm assuming getting married at 272 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: some point. Will you stick around for that whole picture? 273 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: Will this become like a you guys move in together? 274 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: Like I don't know what does that look like? 275 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, that's a good question. 276 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm like, 277 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: what does this look like? 278 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: We actually haven't really talked about that. They've kind of 279 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: hold on the marriage at the moment. So I came 280 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: into it when they got engaged. Yeah, and I was 281 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: just a friend. It wasn't like a relationship we were 282 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: looking for in the polyamory, you know, we weren't looking 283 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: for this type of relationship. She was a friend. I 284 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: fell in love with her, She fell in love with me. 285 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: She had to talk to her partner before she confronted 286 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: to me, so they had a talk and then she 287 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: came to me, and then we all had a discussion together, 288 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: and it's just bloomed from there. They have really halted 289 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: their marriage because of me. They just halted it because 290 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: of other circumstances too. I think they are on the 291 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: horizon of getting back into it, but for now, I 292 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: think we're just working out what the future holds for us. 293 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: Was this your first polyamorous relationship? 294 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 4: Oh yes, I didn't even really know it was a thing. 295 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: How did that work? Were you like, oh my gosh, 296 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: what do you mean? Can I, you know, date you 297 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: at the same time? Like, as you said before, you 298 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: were like it was a bit rocky at the start. 299 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: Was that because you just hadn't done it before or 300 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: didn't know I guess the boundaries and what that looked like. 301 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: Tell me a bit more about that, because I just 302 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: look at it and go, I don't even know how 303 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: this would come up. 304 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: None of us really knew what we were doing. There 305 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: was a lot of jealousy involved, like a lot of 306 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: jealousy not just from my part, but her male partner's 307 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: part as well. It was on a rollercoaster for him 308 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: with his emotions. He didn't know how he felt. Sometimes 309 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: other times he was okay, and then other times he 310 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: was like, no, can we stop. So it was very bumpy, 311 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: But in the end we have like boot amazing. Now 312 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: it's gotten to a point where we all sit on 313 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: the couch and watch movies or like I actually stay 314 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: at their house and it's him, her and me. We're 315 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: all just in the bed together, just casually, fine, casual. 316 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm so pervy on it, just because I'm like, I 317 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: don't know how this would work, because obviously he wasn't 318 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: as on board at the start. Does that mean you're 319 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: sort of in a relationship with him as well, or 320 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: is it definitely just the two of the girls and 321 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: he's just like, yeah, she can sleep over and sleep 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: in the bed, But like, I'm not part of this, 323 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: but like, is he part of that? I guess relationship dynamic. 324 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: So there is no sexual like areas between him and I, 325 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: but there is a more care factor there and a 326 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: more like. 327 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: That's what I was like, because he's bringing you like 328 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: fruit and veggie boxes and like looking after you in 329 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: the way that a partner might. I'm like, I didn't 330 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: expect that from somebody who kind of wasn't the dating partner. 331 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems a bit different from everyone else's point. 332 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: Of so it sounds beautiful. It sounds like, I don't 333 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: know how to explain this. You're talking about them, and 334 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: you are beaming, like you are quite clearly so happy 335 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: about this situation, and I'm sure that they talk about 336 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: you in exactly the same way. So like, I just 337 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: love that you're so happy in this. Like, I don't 338 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: think it matters that it's different, Like everybody's relationship in 339 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: some way, shape or form, is different. It doesn't actually 340 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: matter as long as everybody in the relationship is like 341 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: happy about it, right of. 342 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: Course, yeah, and everyone is just family members might not be. 343 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: Oh, is that an issue because there's like a lack 344 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: of clarity or they just don't get it. 345 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: I don't think they get it. 346 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: No, I can't believe that because I just feel like 347 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: if my kid came home and was like, I have 348 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: a girlfriend who has a partner, I'd be like, does 349 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: everybody know? Yep? Okay, well that's not my place to judge. Like, 350 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: you're happy, great, no worries, all the jops you it's 351 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: all good. Let's get back on track. Though. I want 352 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: to know what are you currently working towards? What is 353 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: your big goal? 354 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so one of them was I'm going on a 355 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: cruise to New Zealand with my girlfriend, just us, not 356 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 4: the other partner. Yeah, but I've already paid that off 357 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: with winner. Yeah, so I just need spending money. 358 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: When is that happening? Is it soon? 359 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Like? 360 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: How long have we got for spending money? 361 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: March next year? 362 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: So oh you've got heaps of time? 363 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? How long for it's eleven days? 364 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Very nice. 365 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: We're going to Sydney first for a couple of days, 366 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: and then Newcastle because she grew up there, so. 367 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: Oh how fun? And then what after that? You've got 368 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: this big cruise working towards that? Is there any other 369 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: big money goals that you're working towards just to be comfortable. 370 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: Really, yes, I just want to be financially stable. Yeah. 371 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: A goal of mine used to be the Australian drink 372 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: to own home, and I thought a two percent deposit 373 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: for a single mum seemed achievable. But after listening to 374 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: your podcast and you know, finding out the nitty gritty 375 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 4: stuff and everything that else comes with it, I just 376 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: realized that, well, it's not for me, it's not what 377 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: I want, doesn't align my values anymore. 378 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: Oh. 379 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that you're clear on that. 380 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it won't change in the future if 381 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: you end up in a you know, more stable financial situation, 382 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: but I kind of love that it's not putting pressure 383 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: on you at the moment. 384 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: It feels good not to feel that pressure. 385 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Love. 386 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to a really quick break because 387 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: I have approximately one million questions for you right after 388 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: this all right, money direst We are back, and I 389 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 2: feel like this has thrown a few I don't want 390 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: to say spanners in the works, but like there's been 391 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: some curveballs that I didn't see coming in this money story. 392 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: I want to know now obviously you have gone from 393 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: you know, not being in a good financial position to 394 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: being I would say in a great one, do you 395 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: have any investments? If so, what are they? If you don't, 396 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: why not? 397 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: So I salary sacrifice one hundred dollars a week into 398 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: my super because when I was in trouble, I obviously 399 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: didn't have a job, so my super is reasonably low 400 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: at the moment. I've also set up a raise account 401 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 4: and I do your thirty five dollars automatic transfer weekly 402 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: and offer that I have a kid's account as well. Yeah, 403 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: ten dollars weekly. So oh, I'm wanting to set up 404 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: a good portfolio, though, I just need to educate myself 405 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: a little bit better. 406 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: And I feel like you're well on the way to that, 407 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: especially knowing how much you earn per year. But then 408 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: you're also prioritizing investing. This is so sexy. I love it. 409 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: I want to know a bit more about your daughter, 410 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: though you mentioned her earlier, and then you just said 411 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: you have like a kid's investment portfolio that you're investing into. 412 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: How do you discuss money with your daughter? 413 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: That one's hard. So she's very young. I feel like 414 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: she was very young anyway, She's still my baby, so 415 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 4: I think the only way for me to do that 416 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: at the moment is like, she gets birthday money and stuff, 417 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: so we'll go out to the shops and we'll show 418 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: what she can get with that money and show her 419 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: what she can't. But that's it at the moment. I 420 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: think when she gets a bit older, I will encourage 421 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: her to do food shopping with me, and I'll encourage 422 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: her to do chores in order to get money and 423 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: say love. 424 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: I feel like when they're so young, it's very hard, 425 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: but I like how open you are to like understanding 426 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: what it looks like for her age and what that 427 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: looks like into the future. I always like asking about 428 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: it because I have no idea exactly how I'm going 429 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: to talk to my kids about money, like none, because 430 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: they're all so different as well, like one kid, as 431 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: you were saying, your daughter incredibly sassy. Maybe it just 432 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: won't fall in the same way it does with other kids. 433 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, All right. 434 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: Next question I have my friend, Do you have any debts? 435 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: If so, what are they and what are they for? 436 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so I have about one thousand dollars left on 437 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: my debt. It's not your usual debt that you hear 438 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: on cheese on the money. I'm actually paying off court 439 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: fines and infringements from back in the day. So that 440 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: was a total of about twenty five thousand dollars. 441 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and you've paid nearly all of it off. Yeah, 442 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: queen behavior, I love this. I love this so much. 443 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: How long do you think it'll be before that is 444 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: completely extinguished? 445 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: It will be gone by the start of next year, 446 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 4: about January. 447 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love this. And how will you 448 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: feel once all of that is gone? Do you feel 449 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: like that's going to be like, I guess, another line 450 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: in the sand for a life that once was. 451 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, it's the last line in the sand 452 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: of life that once was. 453 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: It's the only thing that lingers you, Like, get out, 454 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm done here. I can't be bothered with this. Oh 455 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: that'll be so exciting. How are you going to celebrate? 456 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I haven't thought that you have to celebrate? 457 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: You have to, Okay, Okay, I don't know what I'll do. 458 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: You can think about it, but please tell me when 459 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: you do, all right, I want to know. Now you're 460 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: a mum. You seem to be a bit of a 461 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: whizz at a side hustle. I need to know what 462 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: is your best money habit. 463 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: I have a pretty good automatic banking system set up 464 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: now with up Bank. Once my pay comes in, all 465 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 4: my bills are allocated to the separate accounts and I 466 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about them for the future. 467 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: I love that so much. How did you work out 468 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: what needed to go where and when? Was it a 469 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: bit of a teething process or was it just a 470 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: set and forget one day? 471 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: Like? 472 00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: How do we all do this? 473 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: So? I worked out all my bills that come up. 474 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: So when Red Joe services, I worked out all the 475 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 4: amounts that they are. Then I worked out what they 476 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: would be monthly, and then I would work out what 477 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: they would be weekly once it fills up into my 478 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: bank account. It's therefore when that bill actually comes in. 479 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Queen, I love this so much. It makes me so 480 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: happy to hear. Let's bring down the mood, though. What's 481 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: your worst money habit? 482 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So I love to go out for dinner and drink. 483 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: I do have expensive taste. Now that's thanks to my 484 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: girlfriend Rude. But it does align to my values all right. 485 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: Well, she can say, she's all right, I've got no 486 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: beef with her. What does that look like? How are 487 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: you budgeting for that? And you know, is that something 488 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: where you're like, ah, the it's my worst money? Have 489 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: it because I just do it and don't think about 490 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: my budget or is that oh now it's such a 491 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: significant portion of my budget. 492 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 4: Well with all the bills and they're allocated for I 493 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: do set up another account so when I have, say, 494 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 4: more money from the site hustle, I'll just chuck it 495 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: into that account so that money is there that I 496 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: can see. But I do sometimes go over that and 497 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: just spend be a little bit cheeky. 498 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it. It's not even the worst, like 499 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: dinner and drinks, especially with someone you love. Like ten 500 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: out of ten, I love it. We're not going to 501 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: regret that all right now that we've had a really 502 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: good conversation. At the start of the conversation, you said, look, 503 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: I reckon, I'm a bit of a bee. I have 504 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: learned so much about you in such a short period 505 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: of time. Do you still think that your money habits 506 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: or a bee? If so, why, if not, what would 507 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: you regrade them to. 508 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: I would say I'm still a bee. I'm happy with 509 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: everything I'm doing where I'm at with my finances. I 510 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: could be better, but now I'm happy. I would like 511 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 4: to educate and learn as much as I can about investing. 512 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: And I think once I get there and I'm happy, 513 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: I'll then give myself the. 514 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: A oh, we can do that together. I've got you, like, 515 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: I have so much investing content, like, I'm going to 516 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: shove it all your way and you're going to be 517 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: the most educated mom out there before we go. I 518 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: have another question because obviously you've been so open. I 519 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: can't have ownership over being proud of somebody that have 520 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: had nothing to do with. But I just I look 521 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: at your story and I go far out, like I mean, awe, 522 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: Like I think you've done so well. You know, even 523 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: when you said before you were like, look, I found 524 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: out I was pregnant, shoved drugs to the side, didn't 525 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: do that, and I went to the doctor and said 526 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: how much I was taking and what was going on? 527 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Like even that step most people like, absolutely not. I 528 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: don't want to talk to a doctor. There would be 529 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: so much judgment, There would be, you know, so many 530 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: issues with that. If somebody is listening to this and 531 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: they're in a similar position to the position you were 532 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: in when you were twenty one twenty two. What would 533 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 2: your advice be to them? Because if they're listening to this, 534 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: I already know they're like, I want her life, like 535 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: I want to be like her. She's a queen. How 536 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: did she do it? What is her advice? 537 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, that's a hard one. 538 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: I didn't promise the questions would be easy, my friend. 539 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: Just take it day by day and know that you'll 540 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: step in in the right direction. When you're in that 541 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: world and you're in that place, it is a very 542 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: gray and very dark place, and I think the further 543 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: away from it you get, the more color that you 544 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 4: feel comes into your life. It is a hard process, 545 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: but you'll get there for sure. I love it. 546 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: I love it. I feel like I've learned so much. 547 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. I'm sorry that 548 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: that is all we have time for today, but it 549 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: has been an absolute pleasure having a chat with you 550 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: and getting to spend some time together. 551 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: Thank you. 552 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: The advice shared on She's on the Money is general 553 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. 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