1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: land on which this episode is being recorded, the Komboo 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: and emerging, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the podcast where we have mindset, self development and becoming 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: plus behind the scenes of my life running two businesses 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and being among Think of us as the perfect combo 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self development. No 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey, we're here to 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: self awareness. If you're ready to get into the driver's 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: seat of your own life, stop letting life pass you by, 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: then you're in the right place. Hello everybody, and welcome 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: back to the RONC Potty. Firstly, I apologize for my voice. 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: I have been on well, but luckily we have pre 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: recorded this episode, so it's just the intro that sounds 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: like this. But today we are talking about how to 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: be okay with being a beginner and starting again. We 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: noticed a reoccurring theme in our community of people wanting 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: to make big life changes but not wanting to start 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: again and wondering if they are doing things too late. 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: So in this episode we unpack it all. We really 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: get into what it could feel like to start again, 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: embracing change, and how important it is really to embrace 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: change for your success. But before we get into the episode, 29 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: A Tia, do you have any weekly recommendations for us? Yes, 30 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: mine's pilates. You can't take my recommendation, you know what 31 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: I've been doing polite, I know, but it's so fun 32 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: and it's just it's so feminine. Let's just like Coke 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: collab on. 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: This recommendation, our joint recommendation. Literally, I just feel like 35 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: I feel so strong but so relaxed after doing a class. 36 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: And the music's always really relaxing too. I feel the 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: exact same, and it's really invoking like my feminine energy. Yeah, 38 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like everything's lengthening and like 39 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I feel so long and strong and it's just, yeah, 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: it's really relaxing. Like I feel like my quartersole is 41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: just being reduced. 42 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love it. Because I genuinely get excited 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: for it as opposed to like weight training. I'll go 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: and I'll do it, and I know I feel good after, 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: but it's like pilates, I feel good before. 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, oh, I'm excited. 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: Yes. 48 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: I will also mention we had our rebirth event at 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: free Living Polaratei studio, and if you are looking to 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: get into Pilarti's in the Gold Coast area, we do 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: have like a discounted one month membership for our R 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: and Z listeners. They kindly sent us a little link. 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Yay. Free Living is amazing guys, if you're in that area, 55 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: makes you check them out? 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: And what popular link in the show notes for you? 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Amazing? Well, should we get into the episode, I'm gonna 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of take this in a different direction. 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Ok, it'll be good anyway. 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Should I leave that in for everyone? So we're to 61 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: your rights notes for apisodes, and I read them. I'll 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: say I read them before too, and planes and then 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: we record like a week later, and more often than not, 64 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, we're changing us or I'm vibing this. Let's 65 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: get straight to this, all right, Well, let's get straight 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: into it. So I just think this is such a 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: skill to strengthen that is going to make you successful. 68 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I think, well, this skill. So this come up because 69 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: we actually had a question in the Facebook group about this, 70 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: and we've noticed who we have a lot of people 71 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: in the Facebook group talking about, you know, maybe changing 72 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: careers or starting from scratch. And look, this is something 73 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: I'm great at because literally did a six year law degree, 74 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: got into law and then I was like, not for me, 75 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: let's do something different, let's start from scratch. And I think, honestly, 76 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: this is the skill that is going to make you 77 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: successful in life, the one skill you probably need a 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: couple more so, if you can embrace change and meet 79 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: yourself where you're at and be keen to learn new 80 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: things to embrace you know, learning new skills, changing how 81 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: you do things, I truly believe this is a skill 82 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: that is going to make you so successful. Now let 83 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: me Obviously there's a logical side, and then there's a 84 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: shadow lens side. Yeah, and so I think it's really 85 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: really important to be okay with being a beginner and 86 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: learning new skills and not letting your ego get in 87 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: the way of you evolving, because if you think about it, 88 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: if you cannot embrace change like within other people, within 89 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: a situation, within yourself, you will never be able to evolve. 90 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: And as humans, we need to be evolving, like we 91 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: need to be going forward. And so for example, and 92 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: this is actually something I notice in employees. So how 93 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: I know if an employee is going to be quite 94 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: successful in their career is how much change they can embrace. 95 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: So like how adaptable you are to your surroundings. 96 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, if an employee gets stressed out really easy, they 97 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: can't deal with like me changing a deadline or you know, 98 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: like a topic or you know, like in this situation, 99 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: like so I get it, so you do it well 100 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: or like you know, something like that stresses them out. 101 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I straight away get like, oh, very interesting, because if 102 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: you can't embrace and like obviously use your discernment here. 103 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: If I'm constantly changing deadlines, you're allowed to pull me up, 104 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Like that's what That's what I'm not saying because I've 105 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: done that, But I'm just saying if someone gets stressed 106 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: out very easy because something changes and they can't adapt 107 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: to me, that's a bit of a red flag straight 108 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: away because I'm like, oh, you can't deal with change, 109 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: And if you can't deal with change externally, You're not 110 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to deal with change internally, and 111 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: that's how you evolve and that's how you're going to succeed. Guys, 112 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: my mouth is on the floor. I've never thought about 113 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: it like that. Yeah, you like, do you see from 114 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: your subconscious it's kind of like a shadow work lens 115 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: of you can't deal with change, so you're never going 116 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: to be able to allow yourself to change. And that's 117 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: even something like, notice how judgmental you are to other 118 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: people if they change, if they change careers, if they 119 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, even I remember there was such this story 120 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: of like, oh, she keeps changing her degree, like she 121 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: just can't stick to a degree, you know, and like 122 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: they'd say that about like their unifriends as well. Yeah, 123 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, so interesting, Like why are you 124 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: upset about that? Yeah? 125 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: Why how is it affecting you? 126 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: And that's because they probably have a lot of beliefs 127 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: around I can't change. I have to be one person 128 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: and I have to follow this direct line and I 129 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: cannot change. 130 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: And do you think that comes from almost feeling shame 131 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: if you do change? Yeah, or like quote unquote give 132 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: up on something. 133 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, like almost like this mentality of like I must 134 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: see this to the end, and I think, I think 135 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: there's good things about that mentality. But I've just noticed 136 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: even in myself, I had a great reflection at the 137 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: start of the year, is I actually stopped my evolution 138 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: in regards to when I had IVY because I couldn't 139 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: adapt to my new self. And that's what like the 140 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: whole rebirth course was about, is adapting to your new self. 141 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: And I had a lot of issues around that because 142 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: of how like kind of like not said in my ways, 143 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: but how logically I saw evolution and how I wasn't 144 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: able to adapt to my new self because it wasn't 145 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: what I thought right, And so I stopped my own. 146 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: Growth because you almost boxed yourself into I'm evolving, but 147 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: it's this. 148 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Way, yeah, and it can only be this way, and 149 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: that it only makes sense to me if it's this way. 150 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: And what shifted for you? 151 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: I guess we'll like doing the identity work around not 152 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: having to be in that box and not having to 153 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: have limitations. And I think like the way that you 154 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: can strengthen this side of yourself, like bringing it back 155 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: to the main question of being able to deal with 156 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: change and being able to be a beginner. And I'll 157 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: get to the beginner side in a second. But in 158 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: regards to being able to deal with change, is I 159 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: guess like strengthening that is well, it's it's like our 160 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: life happens for me a tia like we queens have 161 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: been able to deal with change because we have actually 162 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: ref to our mindset that when ship doesn't go our way, 163 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: we actually go, oh no, this is happening for me. 164 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know when I realized how strong that 165 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: is in us. He always know this. But Cooper broke 166 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: his arm. This is a weird story, but he broke 167 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: his arm and he was supposed to go on his 168 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: spear fishing trip. And when he came in and told Jamie, 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Georgina and I that he broke his arm, we were like, oh, well, 170 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: obviously maybe something was bad was going to happen on 171 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: the spear fishing trip, so you broke your arm so 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: that nothing bad happened. And we were like, gosh, we're 173 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: like really positive. Most people would just be sad that 174 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: they broke their arm and couldn't go on their holiday. 175 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Was he like responsible to that? I remember, No, I 176 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: think he agreed. 177 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: He was just upset his arm was broken, but yeah, 178 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: he was just like, yeah, it probably is, like that's 179 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: like what he definitely agreed with it. But it was 180 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: just like interesting to see how quickly our minds went 181 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: there instead of ever thinking, oh, just sucks, you can't 182 00:10:59,520 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: go on your hold. 183 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Yes, And that's what I mean, Like, this is going 184 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: to be such a huge tool for you if you 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: can embrace change, because like a lot of people, something 186 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: happens and they sit in a low frequency for days, weeks, 187 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: and then what happens is you're sitting in a low 188 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: frequency and you attract more low frequency things. So if 189 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: you can be able to embrace change and actually be 190 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: like cool, this actually might be happening for me, or 191 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: even just like a neutral state of like cool, I'm 192 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: not going to let this be the end of the world. 193 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: It's like something Brookie was saying when we did our 194 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: end Hah retreat. She's like, my favorite thing with the 195 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: team is like we don't cry anymore when something goes wrong, because, 196 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: like you know, right at the start, especially when you're 197 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: first starting a business, it can feel like if like 198 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: one thing happens and it can. 199 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: Just feel like the end of the world, like your 200 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: bad it doesn't change in the right or. 201 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, like something happens, and like I do remember there 202 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: was quite a few times we'd have a lot of 203 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: people crying in the office or just like you know, 204 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: feeling stressed, and then because they're feeling stressed, you're feeling stressed, 205 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: and it just creates this whole atmosphere. Whereas we've shifted 206 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: our whole perspective now and like I've evolved how I 207 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: do things, and the team has evolved how they do things, 208 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: and like something happens, and Brookie straight away she's like, cool, 209 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: well the solution, we can do this, this and this, 210 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? 211 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: Gee? 212 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: And I'm like, cool, well let's do this amazing and 213 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: we just move forward. We embrace it. Whereas if you're 214 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: that person that like goes to your boss and you're like, 215 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, this thing's happen. It's the worst fucking 216 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: thing and you're stressed, I guarantee your boss is going 217 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: to be like red flags. I feel like we've been there. Yeah, look, 218 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: I've been that. I've been that person. And that's what 219 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean is like I can truly see, like the 220 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: rate at how successful someone is going to be by 221 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: the way that they can embrace and hold change, because 222 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: if you think about it, it's just holding an uncomfortable feeling. 223 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: That's so true, and in your life to succeed, to 224 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: go to that next level, you are going to have 225 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: to go through uncomfortable feelings. You're going to have to 226 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: go through uncomfortable stages. So the people that I can 227 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: see that can actually hold that and stay true to 228 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: who they are and stable to who they are are 229 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: obviously going to be able to combat more, get through more, 230 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: get through more levels. And so that's why I truly believe. 231 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: It's like it's a skill, and the great thing is 232 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: it's a skill you can strengthen. So I think I 233 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: was going to this before that I jumped. But so 234 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: how you can do this is like bring it back 235 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: to little moments when things don't go your way and 236 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: being like, oh, how can I actually see the positive 237 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: or how can I sit in the feeling of this 238 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: being really uncomfortable but not freak out. 239 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: I so agree with that, and I think sometimes it 240 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: just because I definitely was someone like, especially through high school, 241 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: I got rattled so easily, Like if the tiniest thing 242 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: went wrong. It was end of the world and something 243 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: that helped me first before obviously being able to like 244 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: completely just let things flow and happen and just adapt. 245 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: I would just try to be unbothered like I would. 246 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: I just worked on that initial reaction of when something 247 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: goes wrong, what do I do? And I think if 248 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: it like sometimes when you drive, and then I'll be 249 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: the best driver. So I don't know if everyone will 250 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: relate to this, but have you ever hit the curb 251 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: a little bit? 252 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I definitely haven't. 253 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like it comes down to whether you 254 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: hit the curb and you're like, oh my god, pull over, 255 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: check the car, blah blah blah, or like you just 256 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: roll over the curb and like okay, cool and then 257 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: carry on driving. 258 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: My god, love that example. It's so true. I've never 259 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: got an ad Oh we'll deal with I'll deal with 260 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: it when I stopped. Well, that's even Like me and 261 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Cooper spoke at a conference the other day, and it's 262 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: really interesting because I hadn't really done a public speaking 263 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: thing to that extent, especially in between in front of 264 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: like a whole room of professionals, and it was really 265 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: cooled that n H got invited, and we were talking 266 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: about our sustainability journey and also just like how we 267 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: really lean into our community and our social activations to 268 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: drive the brand. So it was a topic that I absolutely, 269 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, loved and wanted to chat about. But I 270 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: did notice, like Cooper was quite nervous, and I noticed 271 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: in myself this feeling of being nervous. But also, you know, 272 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I had the questions. I had prepared the questions, and 273 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: then I noticed this part of myself who literally like 274 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of said to myself, I prepared. I'm here because 275 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, n H deserves to be here. You know, 276 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: we have it, we have a spot at the table, 277 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: we have some stuff that people would want to know, 278 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and so I choose to be unbothered, like and I 279 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: noticed though that being a choice yeah, and being like, oh, like, 280 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, I stuff up, something happens, but I've 281 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: literally done all I can. I prepared. There's like there's 282 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: not much more I can do. So it's like whatever 283 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: happens is going to happen, and I can't really change 284 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: it either way. So I most will sit in this 285 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: feeling of like cool. 286 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm chill, And do you think sometimes that feeling of 287 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: not being able to handle the change or on comfort 288 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: comes from under preparing. 289 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also think it comes from a choice. And 290 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: that's the thing is if there is truth to you 291 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: feeling nervous, yeah, maybe you have underprepared. And in saying that, 292 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: like I didn't, It's not like I was preparing for weeks. 293 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: I wrote it in my notes, I said it a 294 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: couple of times, and that's me preparing it pretty well, 295 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: sounds good, So a hundred percent bit like I did 296 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: notice even that thought in my mind of like, oh, 297 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: maybe I should like practice a bit more, and I 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: just went, no, yeah, I'm not doing I'm not leaning 299 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: into that story. And I guess that's what I'm trying 300 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: to say is a lot of people they think they 301 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: don't have that awareness and they think they don't have 302 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that choice, but you actually do. You just have to 303 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: be a bit more aware and conscious before that feeling 304 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: takes over. And obviously that does come with practice. Yeah, 305 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: And that's what I mean. It's like, you know, when 306 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: you go to the gym and you work out, you're 307 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: not straight away a fit person. You have to do practice 308 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: and then you're a fit person. And obviously I have 309 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: done quite a bit of public speaking. I speak on 310 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: a podcast, so it would come more easier to me 311 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: because I have practice and I've strengthened that side of myself. 312 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: But I did notice it's still a choice I have 313 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, And I think a lot of people 314 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: just think, oh, well, she's just naturally gifted or she's 315 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: just naturally chill. I was very much like you a tear, 316 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Like things would happen and I would have fucking meltdown. Yeah, 317 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Like even how I said, like at the start of 318 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: n H, like the whole team would have a meltdown 319 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: and cry and don't laugh and we just and now 320 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: we just don't do it, Like I just refuse to 321 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: feed into the story. And also I like, I just 322 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: truly believe that you can be transparent and everything's going 323 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: to be okay. 324 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: I agree. 325 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: So I just I'm like, why what, like why worry? 326 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: Why feed into that? 327 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: I think something that you actually just said sparked a 328 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: little aha moment for me in that I feel like 329 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: sometimes people freak out because society feeds that, and it's 330 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: almost quote unquote cool like to be able to talk, like, 331 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: for example, just like a work one if you have 332 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: a job that you're super passionate about and you like 333 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: have meltdowns when things go wrong. A lot of people 334 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: will validate that and be like, oh, it's all good, 335 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: You're just crying because you care. Yeah, And it then 336 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 2: feeds that. It feeds that for you because I used 337 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: to think, oh my gosh, I'm crying because I care. 338 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm just passionate about what I do. It's fine to care, 339 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: like I need to just let my emotions happen. But 340 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: there's also a line of like, am I crying because 341 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: I care? Or am I crying because I can't self regulate? Wow? 342 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeaes and like you can have a job and be 343 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: passionate and not cry when something goes wrong. 344 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: That's such a great point in to Yeah, and I 345 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: think that comes in like that comes in a lot 346 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: of self responsibility. Yeah, And that's like it's something you 347 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: might need to kind of check in with yourself because 348 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: also this is probably getting a bit too deep. But 349 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: a lot of the time that person would be getting 350 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: secondhand gain from doing that, so yeah, you know, they 351 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: would be getting well, I cry and then my partner's 352 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: like quite nice to. 353 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: Me, and everyone's like, oh, it's okay, or even. 354 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: In an employee's sense because oh my god, this so happened. 355 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: If you know someone is like they can't ill stress, 356 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: or that they're quite sensitive, maybe their workload isn't as big, 357 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: and people purposely don't give them work or purposely is like, 358 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: don't tell this person. They're gonna freak out. Like I've 359 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: actually I've done that with employees, be like, oh my god, 360 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: fucking let's sort it out together. Don't tell this person 361 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: because they can't deal with it. And so even that person, 362 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: they might even be feeding into that because they get 363 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: secondhand gain. They get people like walking on eggshells around them, 364 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: and that's too careful with how they ask them to 365 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: do things. Yes, yes, so again that's take some responsibility there. Yeah, 366 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: and obviously you know the people around you. Just check 367 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: in if they're feeding into the positive story or if 368 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: they're feeding into the negative story. But I truly like 369 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: coming back to it though, I truly believe if you 370 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: can learn how to embrace change and actually thrive of change, 371 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: holy shit, you're going to be such a solid human 372 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: That is going to lead to so just so many 373 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: up levels. And I, yeah, I just I think that's 374 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: just such a thing that people don't talk about and 375 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: then also just to feedback into our original topic, let's 376 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: give them some tips. So I am just such a 377 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: big believer that you should always be okay with being 378 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: a beginner. And I just think you can miss so 379 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: much if you And this is like, this is a 380 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: very ego thing, but it's like if you refuse to 381 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: get taught something, or you refuse to kind of like 382 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: go to the quote unquote bottom because you're used to 383 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: being in a certain area of your employment or your 384 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: small business or your business or your company or I 385 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: know whatever. Yeah, it's like you're going to miss so much. 386 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: And that's even like something that I love is at 387 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: our end Hatred Retreat, we were doing our values and 388 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: someone said, what I love about our team is there's 389 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: no job small enough that someone won't come in and help. 390 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: So it's like, for example, if shit's going down in 391 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: customer service, you know Alex who's like head of logistics, 392 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: it is like Brookie, what do you need? I can 393 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: jump in and like no one's above anyone else, and 394 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: we're all ready to like you know, get in there 395 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: and help someone else. And I think it's just such 396 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: an amazing skill. And again It's like, if you refuse 397 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: to go back to being a beginner and learning and 398 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: basically embracing change, you are not going to be able 399 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: to evolve in yourself because you've basically told yourself, no, 400 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: we don't need to learn that we're perfect as we are. 401 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: You're never gonna evolve, You're never going to move forward. 402 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: So get okay with being beginner, learning new things, getting 403 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: told things. Oh my god, like the biggest thing you 404 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: will know if you're in your ego. If someone is 405 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: telling you something and your response is like I already 406 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: know that or I know better, their way is wrong, 407 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: you know you're in your ego if those are the 408 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: statements the thoughts in your head, and you need to 409 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: check yourself and obviously use discernments. Sometimes that is completely correct. Yeah, 410 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: but sometimes you are completely limiting your growth. And I 411 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: guarantee you, if you do it once, you've done it 412 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: a thousand times. 413 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: And I guess something interesting with that could almost be 414 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: that sometimes the universe will give you like a little 415 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: bit of a nudge. And that might be someone saying, hey, 416 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: like you're doing great at this, but you could improve 417 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, and you and your head go, 418 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: I already know that I'm across it. Everything, you will 419 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: get pushed back down by the universe if necessary, if 420 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: you're not listening to that little nudge and so just 421 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: obviously again, like the. 422 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Lesson's gonna fucking keep coming up. 423 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 424 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I truly believe in like karma lessons. So if like 425 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: the universe is trying to show you a lesson and 426 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: you constantly ignore it, you're going to keep having the 427 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: same karma. You'll just be living the same thing over 428 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: and over again. It might come through all different people, 429 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: but you'll be like, why does this keep happening? 430 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? What are some other tips you have for people 431 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: to I guess embrace being a beginner and embrace change. 432 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Definitely, you know, I like acknowledge it is hard and uncomfortable, 433 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: but you can do hard and uncomfortable things. I think 434 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: you're very you're living in a fairy tale. If you 435 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: think life is just about things coming to you easy, 436 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: things being easy, that's literally not how we do things. 437 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: We build character, we build our skills. We strengthen our 438 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: skills through uncomfortable and hard things, So start getting comfortable 439 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: with them. Like I said, it's like realizing and reframing. 440 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: So with our life happens for me motto, we've basically 441 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: just reframed. When something bad happens, we're reframing that perspective 442 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: and that has helped us so much. So again, get 443 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: really good at catching yourself reframing. I think, just like 444 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: trust your evolution. So it's like, these people are coming 445 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: into your world for a reason. These things are happening 446 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: for a reason, Like a Tia said, if things keep 447 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: popping up and you're like why does this keep happening, 448 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: start listening to the universe because it's trying to nudge you. 449 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: It's trying to evolve you, and you need to start 450 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: embracing it. Otherwise you're going to it's going to feel like, 451 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: you know, you're hitting a wall all the time, Whereas 452 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: it's like you can get a nudge and it can 453 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: still be really beautiful. I think just like be really 454 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: open to being a beginner and like be really humbled 455 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: by even if you are an expert on your field. 456 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: Or It's a great example for me is you know, 457 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm co owner and co creator of an eight figure business, 458 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: but I'm so open to people giving me feedback, to 459 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: people giving me information, Like we had one of our 460 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: S and OP meetings the other day, which is just 461 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: like systems and operations, which we have monthly to go 462 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: through and hate like what were the things that worked well? 463 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: What didn't? How can we move forward? And we have 464 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: an external consultant for retail and he's involved in these 465 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: meetings for the retail side of things, and he comes 466 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: from a really like corporate background, so he's used to 467 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: S and OP meetings of like one hundred million dollar 468 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: companies and so he has brought in a lot of 469 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: like the systems and processes. And I had to really 470 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: check myself because at the start I noticed I was like, 471 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: we're not corporate, we don't do things that way. Like 472 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't saying that to him, but I 473 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: noticed the thought and I had to check myself and 474 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: be like, are you just in your ego? Because also 475 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: we can be a company that's not quote unquote corporate, 476 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: but we can have some really great systems and practices. 477 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I mean. It's like I had to 478 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: humble myself and I had to check in with myself, 479 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: and that was a really great exercise for me. And 480 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: that was the time where I had to go back 481 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: to be being a beginner out because I had fucking 482 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: no idea and sop medias. And also I remember asking 483 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: him and being like, hey, I have no idea. I 484 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: would love to learn the process. I would love to 485 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: learn how you know you get these metrics and why 486 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: they matter. And I asked him for help and he 487 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: was so open to it, and he was so like, 488 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, let me teach you. Because I 489 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: was so like, I'm a beginner, you know, help me. 490 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: And I think people are really responsive when you put 491 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: yourself in when you ask for help and you actually 492 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: ask for direction, because people actually love helping. People generally 493 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: love helping. So if you can do it in a 494 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: way that is really respectful, people generally like, yes, I 495 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: want to help you. 496 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: I love that you said that, because I think that 497 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: that is one of the biggest things that people struggle 498 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: with when they're a beginner, is asking questions and asking 499 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: for help because you do have to get out of 500 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: your ego. But if you think about it, that is 501 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: the best way to get things done. Like, for example, 502 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: I know a lot of the questions in the Facebook 503 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: group are about like starting at new jobs, and people 504 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 2: are struggling because obviously something you find interesting is like 505 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: you do lose that secondhand gain from everything you quote 506 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: unquote put into the job prior, like that doesn't necessarily 507 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: get carried over to the new business and you're having 508 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: to prove yourself again. And I think people go into 509 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: this I have to be impressive. I have to get 510 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: everything right. I can't ask questions, I can't ask for help. 511 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: I really want to impress people. And what's impressive is 512 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: actually being vulnerable and saying, hey, no idea what your 513 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: business's processes are? Could we take half an hour an 514 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: hour to so you can run me through it, and 515 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: don't be scared to ask a million and one questions 516 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: when you first start something, because it just makes you 517 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: that much better, that much faster, rather than like trying 518 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: to be impressive and then getting three months in and 519 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: going like, I actually have no idea what's going on? 520 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Because yes, I love that. And that's also like something 521 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: we really encourage in both businesses as like anything you 522 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: want to know, need to know, Like let's communicate and 523 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Don't just like pretend you know 524 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: and then like not do good work. Yeah, right, Like 525 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: that's the silliest thing ever. So I love that you 526 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: touched on that. But guys, I hope you have absolutely 527 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: loved this episode. A bit of a riff, but it 528 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: was so good. And guys, make sure you come and 529 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: jump in our Facebook group because that's where we chat 530 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: about all this stuff. And yeah, come and join us. 531 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of 532 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: the Rise and Conker podcast. 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